Security and Human Rights in the Kashmir Valley

Violence has escalated in the Kashmir Valley yet again, leaving 9 people dead, including at least one woman.  This comes after violence a couple of weeks ago left 14 dead.  The valley has been under a curfew, but anger has boiled over against Indian security forces and government institutions.  The Chief Minister of Jammu and Kashmir, Omar Abdullah, has called for calm.  That’s a good idea, but I’m more than a little concerned at the ham-handed way the Kashmiri police, the state government and the central government are dealing with the protests.

It’s certainly understandable for the government to want to prevent damage to government buildings, but shooting people who are protesting is not only a violation of human rights standards, but it also pisses people off and makes them even less inclined to see India as anything but a foreign occupier who does not care about the security and human rights of Kashmiris.  Given Kashmir’s history within India since 1947, you would think that the Government of India will do everything it can to prevent civilian deaths, but it seems that they can never learn their lesson.

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58 thoughts on “Security and Human Rights in the Kashmir Valley

  1. 58 inocents & unarmed Kashmiris have been killed by indian firces from last three months , and Amnesty is doing nothing rather than issuing these posts , we want Amnesty & UN to intervene practically , you guys r failing to pressurize indian government & its really sad , no one is coming out for our help….

  2. Yasir: what sort of practical intervening would you have us do? I'd like to hear your suggestions as they might some sort of thing which we have not thought of. We are a human rights organization and we can only put pressure on the government, which we are doing, publicly.

    Thanks for your comment.

  3. How many police and security personnel were injured? Were these peaceful protesters or were they violent people who were warned repeatedly? Were the shootings wanton or were they done under extreme stress when small groups of police were forced to fend off large angry mobs that threatened to cause serious injury by throwing rocks? Are the anti-Indian mobs mindful of the human rights of the security forces, and do they worry about injuring security personnel?

  4. 58 inocents & unarmed Kashmiris have been killed by indian firces from last three months , and Amnesty is doing nothing rather than issuing these posts , we want Amnesty & UN to intervene practically , you guys r failing to pressurize indian government & its really sad , no one is coming out for our help….

  5. Armchair Guy: That's a good question and the answer is that the Indian media and the government have not indicated any casualties from security forces. It might be that the government is not releasing the numbers, because I am surprised by this. Here is an article from the Hindustan Times talking about the violence, with no mention of security force casualties: http://bit.ly/cRGfop

    Nonetheless, if security forces are faced with having to shoot because of self-defense, that would be fine, but even the PDP (the previous party in government in J&K) has stated that ""it seems shooting to kill has become a pathological pass time for the state government and its forces."

    Thanks for your comment.

  6. Armchair Guy: That's a good question and the answer is that the Indian media and the government have not indicated any casualties from security forces. It might be that the government is not releasing the numbers, because I am surprised by this. Here is an article from the Hindustan Times talking about the violence, with no mention of security force casualties: http://bit.ly/cRGfop

    Nonetheless, if security forces are faced with having to shoot because of self-defense, that would be fine, but even the PDP (the previous party in government in J&K) has stated that ""it seems shooting to kill has become a pathological pass time for the state government and its forces."

    Thanks for your comment.

  7. Armchair Guy: That's a good question and the answer is that the Indian media and the government have not indicated any casualties from security forces. It might be that the government is not releasing the numbers, because I am surprised by this. Here is an article from the Hindustan Times talking about the violence, with no mention of security force casualties: http://bit.ly/cRGfop

    Nonetheless, if security forces are faced with having to shoot because of self-defense, that would be fine, but even the PDP (the previous party in government in J&K) has stated that ""it seems shooting to kill has become a pathological pass time for the state government and its forces."

    Thanks for your comment.

  8. Yasir: what sort of practical intervening would you have us do? I’d like to hear your suggestions as they might some sort of thing which we have not thought of. We are a human rights organization and we can only put pressure on the government, which we are doing, publicly.

    Thanks for your comment.

  9. How many police and security personnel were injured? Were these peaceful protesters or were they violent people who were warned repeatedly? Were the shootings wanton or were they done under extreme stress when small groups of police were forced to fend off large angry mobs that threatened to cause serious injury by throwing rocks? Are the anti-Indian mobs mindful of the human rights of the security forces, and do they worry about injuring security personnel?

  10. Armchair Guy: That’s a good question and the answer is that the Indian media and the government have not indicated any casualties from security forces. It might be that the government is not releasing the numbers, because I am surprised by this. Here is an article from the Hindustan Times talking about the violence, with no mention of security force casualties: http://bit.ly/cRGfop

    Nonetheless, if security forces are faced with having to shoot because of self-defense, that would be fine, but even the PDP (the previous party in government in J&K) has stated that “”it seems shooting to kill has become a pathological pass time for the state government and its forces.”

    Thanks for your comment.

  11. Thunsanda Dead,Ten thousand missing,thousands of Women Raped all done under the shield of Draconian Laws like AFSPA and PSA.So called biggest Democrasy of the World Unleashing untold Miseries on Kasmiris ,what are the World bodies doing?Are not the Kashmiris Human beings? Are not the Kashmiris part of your World? Wake up World ,Wake Up….

  12. Dear Brothers & Sisters,

    Militants, Military and innocent citizens of Kashmir all are our brothers and sisters. The loss of life of any one is loss of our personal soul. A Saitan is behind the violence, who become happy on every death in Kashmir. Why we become a toy ……of the Saitan? The only one solution of Kashmir is to join the Kashmir of both sides, which is possible in "Azad Hind Desh" a united nation of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

    Think seriously to rejoin in "Azad Hind Desh".

    -Ghulam Kundanam,
    Citizen of Azad Hind Desh(India+Pakistan+Bangladesh)

    Email : Ghulam.kundanam@gmail.com

    Blog – http://www.ghulamkundanam.blogspot.com/

    FaceBook: -http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Ghulam-Kundanam/100001040727520

    Twitter :- http://twitter.com/ghulamkundanam

  13. Dear Brothers & Sisters,

    Militants, Military and innocent citizens of Kashmir all are our brothers and sisters. The loss of life of any one is loss of our personal soul. A Saitan is behind the violence, who become happy on every death in Kashmir. Why we become a toy ……of the Saitan? The only one solution of Kashmir is to join the Kashmir of both sides, which is possible in "Azad Hind Desh" a united nation of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

    Think seriously to rejoin in "Azad Hind Desh".

    -Ghulam Kundanam,
    Citizen of Azad Hind Desh(India+Pakistan+Bangladesh)

    Email : Ghulam.kundanam@gmail.com

    Blog – http://www.ghulamkundanam.blogspot.com/

    FaceBook: -http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Ghulam-Kundanam/100001040727520

    Twitter :- http://twitter.com/ghulamkundanam

  14. Dear Brothers & Sisters,

    Militants, Military and innocent citizens of Kashmir all are our brothers and sisters. The loss of life of any one is loss of our personal soul. A Saitan is behind the violence, who become happy on every death in Kashmir. Why we become a toy ……of the Saitan? The only one solution of Kashmir is to join the Kashmir of both sides, which is possible in "Azad Hind Desh" a united nation of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

    Think seriously to rejoin in "Azad Hind Desh".

    -Ghulam Kundanam,
    Citizen of Azad Hind Desh(India+Pakistan+Bangladesh)

    Email : Ghulam.kundanam@gmail.com

    Blog – http://www.ghulamkundanam.blogspot.com/

    FaceBook: -http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Ghulam-Kundanam/100001040727520

    Twitter :- http://twitter.com/ghulamkundanam

  15. Thunsanda Dead,Ten thousand missing,thousands of Women Raped all done under the shield of Draconian Laws like AFSPA and PSA.So called biggest Democrasy of the World Unleashing untold Miseries on Kasmiris ,what are the World bodies doing?Are not the Kashmiris Human beings? Are not the Kashmiris part of your World? Wake up World ,Wake Up….

  16. Dear Brothers & Sisters,

    Militants, Military and innocent citizens of Kashmir all are our brothers and sisters. The loss of life of any one is loss of our personal soul. A Saitan is behind the violence, who become happy on every death in Kashmir. Why we become a toy ……of the Saitan? The only one solution of Kashmir is to join the Kashmir of both sides, which is possible in “Azad Hind Desh” a united nation of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

    Think seriously to rejoin in “Azad Hind Desh”.

    -Ghulam Kundanam,
    Citizen of Azad Hind Desh(India+Pakistan+Bangladesh)

    Email : Ghulam.kundanam@gmail.com

    Blog – http://www.ghulamkundanam.blogspot.com/

    FaceBook:-http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Ghulam-Kundanam/100001040727520

    Twitter :- http://twitter.com/ghulamkundanam

  17. What Amnesty could do ?

    1. Bring out a full Report on Kashmir.

    2. Mobilize letter & petition campaigns to the indian government on specific issues like

    a. political prisoners.

    b. incidents of abuse, rape, & staged "encounters" committed by indian forces.

    b. calling for a halt to the repression, the curfews, & the mass shootings as THE responses by the indian forces towards the popular mass demonstrations & student agitations.

    c. urging the removal of the draconian laws mentioned above.

    d. organizing seminars highlighting the dreams & demands of the Kashmiri people.

    These would start the process of informing & mobilizing world opinion about this rapidly & hugely escalating crisis that can spark a regional war.

  18. What Amnesty could do ?

    1. Bring out a full Report on Kashmir.

    2. Mobilize letter & petition campaigns to the indian government on specific issues like

    a. political prisoners.

    b. incidents of abuse, rape, & staged “encounters” committed by indian forces.

    b. calling for a halt to the repression, the curfews, & the mass shootings as THE responses by the indian forces towards the popular mass demonstrations & student agitations.

    c. urging the removal of the draconian laws mentioned above.

    d. organizing seminars highlighting the dreams & demands of the Kashmiri people.

    These would start the process of informing & mobilizing world opinion about this rapidly & hugely escalating crisis that can spark a regional war.

  19. Thanks for highlighting the Kashmir situation. I appreciate your efforts.
    However, a lot more needs to be done and AI could do the following:

    1. Send letters not only to the Indian government but major leaders around the world about the ground situation in Kashmir to understand the urgency of saving lives and a lasting peace.

    2. Hold seminars in New York and London or in conjunction with the UN to abrogate draconian laws existing in Kashmir and for dialogue on the possible solutions of the Kashmir problem according to the wishes of the people.

    3. Work toward transparency on what is happening in Kashmir which means less curbs on international and local media.

    4. Mobilize Indian civil society to question their government about the human rights violations in Kashmir.

    5. Pursue justice for the victims of human rights violations. Kashmiris want justice.

    Thanks

  20. And my gratitude to you too for your unfailing response, Mr Acharya. i will read the article you refer to.

    Indebted also to Mr Naveemmz for his list which is more specific & hence far better than mine

  21. Thanks for highlighting the Kashmir situation. I appreciate your efforts.
    However, a lot more needs to be done and AI could do the following:

    1. Send letters not only to the Indian government but major leaders around the world about the ground situation in Kashmir to understand the urgency of saving lives and a lasting peace.

    2. Hold seminars in New York and London or in conjunction with the UN to abrogate draconian laws existing in Kashmir and for dialogue on the possible solutions of the Kashmir problem according to the wishes of the people.

    3. Work toward transparency on what is happening in Kashmir which means less curbs on international and local media.

    4. Mobilize Indian civil society to question their government about the human rights violations in Kashmir.

    5. Pursue justice for the victims of human rights violations. Kashmiris want justice.

    Thanks

  22. And my gratitude to you too for your unfailing response, Mr Acharya. i will read the article you refer to.

    Indebted also to Mr Naveemmz for his list which is more specific & hence far better than mine

  23. Dear Govind Acharya : Yes it is true that we (Kashmiris) are pelting stones on the Indian forces. But you have to know the cause why we are pelt stones on them.

    We are protesting "peacefully" for right to self-determination which was promised to the Kashmiri nation by India in 1947. UN stands witness to it. Almost 38 resolutions have been passed by the UN from time to time for providing justice to the nation of Kashmir. So whenever we lead peaceful demonstrations for our basic rights promised by the India, the Indian forces shower live bullets on us.

    In last two months Indian forces killed 51 innocent Kashmiris who are between 7 to 25 years of age.

    We have been put under house arrest since 22-Jun-2010 till date, and now almost we have nothing to eat. Infant food is almost out of stock and they are starving.

    Indian media is completely “silent”, people of India/world are not aware of what is happening in Kashmir!
    I urge HR to intervene and pressurize India to stop immediately killing innocent Kashmiris and remove the months old curfew imposed in different towns and cities of Kashmir valley. We also request Red Cross to send some medicines to Kashmir.
    Thank you.

  24. Dear Govind Acharya : Yes it is true that we (Kashmiris) are pelting stones on the Indian forces. But you have to know the cause why we are pelt stones on them.

    We are protesting “peacefully” for right to self-determination which was promised to the Kashmiri nation by India in 1947. UN stands witness to it. Almost 38 resolutions have been passed by the UN from time to time for providing justice to the nation of Kashmir. So whenever we lead peaceful demonstrations for our basic rights promised by the India, the Indian forces shower live bullets on us.

    In last two months Indian forces killed 51 innocent Kashmiris who are between 7 to 25 years of age.

    We have been put under house arrest since 22-Jun-2010 till date, and now almost we have nothing to eat. Infant food is almost out of stock and they are starving.

    Indian media is completely “silent”, people of India/world are not aware of what is happening in Kashmir!
    I urge HR to intervene and pressurize India to stop immediately killing innocent Kashmiris and remove the months old curfew imposed in different towns and cities of Kashmir valley. We also request Red Cross to send some medicines to Kashmir.
    Thank you.

  25. To all: feel free to keep the comments coming, but I just want to say that I appreciate them. Kashmir is a very hard issue to campaign on in the United States because of India's general reputation in the country (however well deserved or not). Nonetheless, I'll keep working on the issue and keep highlighting it any chance I get. I encourage all of you to continue keeping the pressure on AI and me to keep working on the issue as well!

  26. To all: feel free to keep the comments coming, but I just want to say that I appreciate them. Kashmir is a very hard issue to campaign on in the United States because of India’s general reputation in the country (however well deserved or not). Nonetheless, I’ll keep working on the issue and keep highlighting it any chance I get. I encourage all of you to continue keeping the pressure on AI and me to keep working on the issue as well!

  27. There is quite a bit of mischaracterization of what is going on in the comments here and in the media in general.

    First, the violence in Kashmir is typical of violence across the entire subcontinent wherever official force is sanctioned. Encounter killings, police torture, abuse of tribals, certain castes, religious minorities and other unempowered peoples is rife everywhere from Kashmir to Kanyakumari, from Balochistan to Chittagong. Kashmir is special only in the sheer numbers of military forces present there. So it is necessary to critically examine the claims of exceptional political force by Indian army. This is not to justify any use of excessive force. It should reduce — everywhere in India.

    Second, Kashmiris should think about their demand for freedom more carefully. Neither India nor Pakistan is actually interested in an independent Kashmir. The people of Kashmir may imagine they want it but they are a land-locked region with strategic resources that neither India nor Pakistan can afford to lose control over. There is no path towards freedom that is practical. An independent Kashmir would be entirely at the mercy of both India and Pakistan. Kashmiris protest in India because they are able to do so. On the other hand they seem to have ceded PoK to Pakistan. This imbalance needs explanation.

    Third, the PR about the struggle for freedom in Kashmir is also not without exaggeration. The struggle had almost completely died out by the 1980s, with only a mild latent sentiment persisting. Yet the struggle was revived in the current form by militant appeals to religion.

    Fourth, Kashmiris currently insist that their struggle is peaceful. Many of those same Kashmiris who are claiming to be peaceful looked the other way or actively supported the massacre and eviction of several million Pandits purely because of religious differences.

    Fifth, and related to the second point, both Pakistan and India have spent too many resources trying to grab Kashmir. If India lets Kashmir go Pakistan would use religion to gain effective control over Kashmir the way it has over Afghanistan. It is very easy to do. Kashmiris wanting independence are in an impossible situation. Azadi is a euphemism for joining Pakistan, if not as a political entity then at least as a de facto vassal state. Kashmiri leaders cannot be blind to this.

  28. There is quite a bit of mischaracterization of what is going on in the comments here and in the media in general.

    First, the violence in Kashmir is typical of violence across the entire subcontinent wherever official force is sanctioned. Encounter killings, police torture, abuse of tribals, certain castes, religious minorities and other unempowered peoples is rife everywhere from Kashmir to Kanyakumari, from Balochistan to Chittagong. Kashmir is special only in the sheer numbers of military forces present there. So it is necessary to critically examine the claims of exceptional political force by Indian army. This is not to justify any use of excessive force. It should reduce — everywhere in India.

    Second, Kashmiris should think about their demand for freedom more carefully. Neither India nor Pakistan is actually interested in an independent Kashmir. The people of Kashmir may imagine they want it but they are a land-locked region with strategic resources that neither India nor Pakistan can afford to lose control over. There is no path towards freedom that is practical. An independent Kashmir would be entirely at the mercy of both India and Pakistan. Kashmiris protest in India because they are able to do so. On the other hand they seem to have ceded PoK to Pakistan. This imbalance needs explanation.

    Third, the PR about the struggle for freedom in Kashmir is also not without exaggeration. The struggle had almost completely died out by the 1980s, with only a mild latent sentiment persisting. Yet the struggle was revived in the current form by militant appeals to religion.

    Fourth, Kashmiris currently insist that their struggle is peaceful. Many of those same Kashmiris who are claiming to be peaceful looked the other way or actively supported the massacre and eviction of several million Pandits purely because of religious differences.

    Fifth, and related to the second point, both Pakistan and India have spent too many resources trying to grab Kashmir. If India lets Kashmir go Pakistan would use religion to gain effective control over Kashmir the way it has over Afghanistan. It is very easy to do. Kashmiris wanting independence are in an impossible situation. Azadi is a euphemism for joining Pakistan, if not as a political entity then at least as a de facto vassal state. Kashmiri leaders cannot be blind to this.

  29. What could Amnesty do? Take up the Kashmir issue in the same way you have organized campaigns around TIbet, Burma, etc. India's reputation is not an excuse for inaction, and it is the long silence of groups like Amnesty on Kashmir, Nagaland, Mizoram, Manipur, etc that have created this image in the first place. For anyone who wants direct updates on the situation in Kashmir, try http://www.greaterkashmir.com – on the ground reporting and photographs from the bravest journalists in the world

  30. What could Amnesty do? Take up the Kashmir issue in the same way you have organized campaigns around TIbet, Burma, etc. India's reputation is not an excuse for inaction, and it is the long silence of groups like Amnesty on Kashmir, Nagaland, Mizoram, Manipur, etc that have created this image in the first place. For anyone who wants direct updates on the situation in Kashmir, try http://www.greaterkashmir.com – on the ground reporting and photographs from the bravest journalists in the world

  31. What could Amnesty do? Take up the Kashmir issue in the same way you have organized campaigns around TIbet, Burma, etc. India's reputation is not an excuse for inaction, and it is the long silence of groups like Amnesty on Kashmir, Nagaland, Mizoram, Manipur, etc that have created this image in the first place. For anyone who wants direct updates on the situation in Kashmir, try http://www.greaterkashmir.com – on the ground reporting and photographs from the bravest journalists in the world

  32. also, if you have any means at all to pressure the UN human rights establishment, get them to make a statement on the killing of civilians in Indian-administered Kashmir – their silence at this point is criminal and points to complicity

  33. What could Amnesty do? Take up the Kashmir issue in the same way you have organized campaigns around TIbet, Burma, etc. India’s reputation is not an excuse for inaction, and it is the long silence of groups like Amnesty on Kashmir, Nagaland, Mizoram, Manipur, etc that have created this image in the first place. For anyone who wants direct updates on the situation in Kashmir, try http://www.greaterkashmir.com – on the ground reporting and photographs from the bravest journalists in the world

  34. also, if you have any means at all to pressure the UN human rights establishment, get them to make a statement on the killing of civilians in Indian-administered Kashmir – their silence at this point is criminal and points to complicity

  35. Mr. Acharaya…seems you guys have taken the baton on human rights voilation in Kashmir…wonder why Amnesty has no words about the destruction of a ciouple of thousand years old culture over and over again…The last one came at the hands of both the Kashmiri muslims and the government of India…Kashmiri pandits were made refugees in thier own country, there were gross human right voilations which no organisation of value in the world took up or even wrote….It seems that organisation like you have selective amnesia in this case…or maybe it is politically motivated….wonder who will take our case to the united nations and get us justice….I would really look forward to your comments….

  36. Mr. Acharaya…seems you guys have taken the baton on human rights voilation in Kashmir…wonder why Amnesty has no words about the destruction of a ciouple of thousand years old culture over and over again…The last one came at the hands of both the Kashmiri muslims and the government of India…Kashmiri pandits were made refugees in thier own country, there were gross human right voilations which no organisation of value in the world took up or even wrote….It seems that organisation like you have selective amnesia in this case…or maybe it is politically motivated….wonder who will take our case to the united nations and get us justice….I would really look forward to your comments….

  37. http://greaterkashmir.com/news/2010/Aug/20/8-yr-o

    Islamabad/Srinagar, Aug 19: An eight-year-old boy, who was shot by CRPF in Laizbal area of South Kashmir’s Islamabad town on Saturday, succumbed to his injuries Thursday morning. With the death of the minor, the number of civilians killed by police and paramilitary CRPF personnel during past 70 days of continued unrest in the valley has reached 60.

    any response from AI? or are you still cowering in fear of the "good Indians" who brazenly justify mass murder?

  38. http://greaterkashmir.com/news/2010/Aug/20/8-yr-o

    Islamabad/Srinagar, Aug 19: An eight-year-old boy, who was shot by CRPF in Laizbal area of South Kashmir’s Islamabad town on Saturday, succumbed to his injuries Thursday morning. With the death of the minor, the number of civilians killed by police and paramilitary CRPF personnel during past 70 days of continued unrest in the valley has reached 60.

    any response from AI? or are you still cowering in fear of the "good Indians" who brazenly justify mass murder?

  39. http://greaterkashmir.com/news/2010/Aug/20/8-yr-o

    Islamabad/Srinagar, Aug 19: An eight-year-old boy, who was shot by CRPF in Laizbal area of South Kashmir’s Islamabad town on Saturday, succumbed to his injuries Thursday morning. With the death of the minor, the number of civilians killed by police and paramilitary CRPF personnel during past 70 days of continued unrest in the valley has reached 60.

    any response from AI? or are you still cowering in fear of the "good Indians" who brazenly justify mass murder?

  40. Dear Govind,

    Glad that AI has started focusing on Kashmir. Now, the Kashmir problem will be solved and people will get justice. But first things first.

    1. Can you please get justice to the relatives of 24 Kashmiri Pandits who got killed in Wandhama (copying NY times since you are based out of NY) http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/25/world/kashmir-m…. BTW, they are among 400 odd killed

    2. You might also 'love' to see some pictures of killed babies, slaughtered men, raped women – 'best' a couple dissected on a band saw and here is the link I found http://kashmirblogs.wordpress.com/genocide-of-kas

    3. Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri pandits and uprooting a three thousand year old history from its roots is something which AI can remain silent about and also can remain silent about physical,emotional and mental tortures of this minority community- we understand – we are not a vote bank neither do we have oil dollars to fund AI's 'investigations'

    4. I am not sure if you still pray to your Indian Gods, for example they trace back the origin of Goddess Kheerbhawani in Kashmir to south or only Sharda Mandir (means temple in English) which was centuries old Sharda Peeth (School of learning) – and many other such temples http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11081971561… – pictures speak more than words and these are not photo-edited :)

    5. I am sure you will believe in the story that we were asked to leave our homes by Governor Jagmohan in 1990 – in fact he had come personally to my home to request me to leave and rot in 120 degrees of heat and in tents

    6. If you still want to see or hear more, I will be glad to give you some 'interesting' studies and statistics. I am in NY too.

    Govind, forgive my satire – but my faith in every human institution is shattered but am doing well in my personal life and try to do whatever my best for my community.

    We shall overcome some day…………

    Best regards,
    Rajesh

  41. Dear Govind,

    Glad that AI has started focusing on Kashmir. Now, the Kashmir problem will be solved and people will get justice. But first things first.

    1. Can you please get justice to the relatives of 24 Kashmiri Pandits who got killed in Wandhama (copying NY times since you are based out of NY) http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/25/world/kashmir-m…. BTW, they are among 400 odd killed

    2. You might also 'love' to see some pictures of killed babies, slaughtered men, raped women – 'best' a couple dissected on a band saw and here is the link I found http://kashmirblogs.wordpress.com/genocide-of-kas

    3. Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri pandits and uprooting a three thousand year old history from its roots is something which AI can remain silent about and also can remain silent about physical,emotional and mental tortures of this minority community- we understand – we are not a vote bank neither do we have oil dollars to fund AI's 'investigations'

    4. I am not sure if you still pray to your Indian Gods, for example they trace back the origin of Goddess Kheerbhawani in Kashmir to south or only Sharda Mandir (means temple in English) which was centuries old Sharda Peeth (School of learning) – and many other such temples http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11081971561… – pictures speak more than words and these are not photo-edited :)

    5. I am sure you will believe in the story that we were asked to leave our homes by Governor Jagmohan in 1990 – in fact he had come personally to my home to request me to leave and rot in 120 degrees of heat and in tents

    6. If you still want to see or hear more, I will be glad to give you some 'interesting' studies and statistics. I am in NY too.

    Govind, forgive my satire – but my faith in every human institution is shattered but am doing well in my personal life and try to do whatever my best for my community.

    We shall overcome some day…………

    Best regards,
    Rajesh

  42. Dear Govind,

    Glad that AI has started focusing on Kashmir. Now, the Kashmir problem will be solved and people will get justice. But first things first.

    1. Can you please get justice to the relatives of 24 Kashmiri Pandits who got killed in Wandhama (copying NY times since you are based out of NY) http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/25/world/kashmir-m…. BTW, they are among 400 odd killed

    2. You might also 'love' to see some pictures of killed babies, slaughtered men, raped women – 'best' a couple dissected on a band saw and here is the link I found http://kashmirblogs.wordpress.com/genocide-of-kas

    3. Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri pandits and uprooting a three thousand year old history from its roots is something which AI can remain silent about and also can remain silent about physical,emotional and mental tortures of this minority community- we understand – we are not a vote bank neither do we have oil dollars to fund AI's 'investigations'

    4. I am not sure if you still pray to your Indian Gods, for example they trace back the origin of Goddess Kheerbhawani in Kashmir to south or only Sharda Mandir (means temple in English) which was centuries old Sharda Peeth (School of learning) – and many other such temples http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11081971561… – pictures speak more than words and these are not photo-edited :)

    5. I am sure you will believe in the story that we were asked to leave our homes by Governor Jagmohan in 1990 – in fact he had come personally to my home to request me to leave and rot in 120 degrees of heat and in tents

    6. If you still want to see or hear more, I will be glad to give you some 'interesting' studies and statistics. I am in NY too.

    Govind, forgive my satire – but my faith in every human institution is shattered but am doing well in my personal life and try to do whatever my best for my community.

    We shall overcome some day…………

    Best regards,
    Rajesh

  43. http://greaterkashmir.com/news/2010/Aug/20/8-yr-old-kulgam-boy-succumbs-23.asp

    Islamabad/Srinagar, Aug 19: An eight-year-old boy, who was shot by CRPF in Laizbal area of South Kashmir’s Islamabad town on Saturday, succumbed to his injuries Thursday morning. With the death of the minor, the number of civilians killed by police and paramilitary CRPF personnel during past 70 days of continued unrest in the valley has reached 60.

    any response from AI? or are you still cowering in fear of the “good Indians” who brazenly justify mass murder?

  44. Dear Govind,

    Glad that AI has started focusing on Kashmir. Now, the Kashmir problem will be solved and people will get justice. But first things first.

    1. Can you please get justice to the relatives of 24 Kashmiri Pandits who got killed in Wandhama (copying NY times since you are based out of NY) http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/25/world/kashmir-massacre-may-signal-the-coming-of-widespread-violence.html. BTW, they are among 400 odd killed

    2. You might also ‘love’ to see some pictures of killed babies, slaughtered men, raped women – ‘best’ a couple dissected on a band saw and here is the link I found http://kashmirblogs.wordpress.com/genocide-of-kashmiri-pandits/

    3. Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri pandits and uprooting a three thousand year old history from its roots is something which AI can remain silent about and also can remain silent about physical,emotional and mental tortures of this minority community- we understand – we are not a vote bank neither do we have oil dollars to fund AI’s ‘investigations’

    4. I am not sure if you still pray to your Indian Gods, for example they trace back the origin of Goddess Kheerbhawani in Kashmir to south or only Sharda Mandir (means temple in English) which was centuries old Sharda Peeth (School of learning) – and many other such temples http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110819715612399#!/group.php?gid=110819715612399&v=photos – pictures speak more than words and these are not photo-edited :)

    5. I am sure you will believe in the story that we were asked to leave our homes by Governor Jagmohan in 1990 – in fact he had come personally to my home to request me to leave and rot in 120 degrees of heat and in tents

    6. If you still want to see or hear more, I will be glad to give you some ‘interesting’ studies and statistics. I am in NY too.

    Govind, forgive my satire – but my faith in every human institution is shattered but am doing well in my personal life and try to do whatever my best for my community.

    We shall overcome some day…………

    Best regards,
    Rajesh

  45. For those who are saying that the Kps left on their own from their homeland, I am giving a link,which contains a book by Prof M.L. Koul, titled the WAIL OF THE VALLEY,which has documented the extinction and ethnic cleansing of this peaceful and nationalistic community from the advent of Islam in 14th century till today,MUST READ for all http://www.ikashmir.net/wailvalley/author.html

  46. For those who are saying that the Kps left on their own from their homeland, I am giving a link,which contains a book by Prof M.L. Koul, titled the WAIL OF THE VALLEY,which has documented the extinction and ethnic cleansing of this peaceful and nationalistic community from the advent of Islam in 14th century till today,MUST READ for all http://www.ikashmir.net/wailvalley/author.html

  47. For those who are saying that the Kps left on their own from their homeland, I am giving a link,which contains a book by Prof M.L. Koul, titled the WAIL OF THE VALLEY,which has documented the extinction and ethnic cleansing of this peaceful and nationalistic community from the advent of Islam in 14th century till today,MUST READ for all http://www.ikashmir.net/wailvalley/author.html

  48. For those who are saying that the Kps left on their own from their homeland, I am giving a link,which contains a book by Prof M.L. Koul, titled the WAIL OF THE VALLEY,which has documented the extinction and ethnic cleansing of this peaceful and nationalistic community from the advent of Islam in 14th century till today,MUST READ for all
    http://www.ikashmir.net/wailvalley/author.html