I finally have good news to report: the Sri Lankan government announced this past Saturday that the displaced civilians unlawfully trapped in internment camps will be free to come and go as of December 1! Amnesty International has been calling for this for the past several months in our “Unlock the Camps!” campaign.
However, while the government announcement and a Sri Lankan newspaper article said that the civilians were being given total freedom of movement as of Dec. 1, other accounts of the government’s announcement have been less positive. Another Sri Lankan government report referred to the civilians being allowed freedom of movement only within the region of the camps, while the BBC and Oxfam spoke of civilians just being granted day passes to leave the camps temporarily (and a day-pass system had been announced last September by the Sri Lankan government). U.N. Under-Secretary General John Holmes said yesterday that the civilians could leave the camps for days at a time, but it was still being discussed whether they could leave the camps permanently. Human Rights Watch today said that some of the displaced civilians have been told by the government that they won’t be released on Dec. 1 but instead moved to other detention camps.
So, while I want to be optimistic and hope that the Sri Lankan government will actually let all the displaced civilians leave the camps if they wish as of Dec. 1, here it’s a case of “seeing is believing.”
And there are some sobering facts to keep in mind, even as the civilians are let out of the camps:
- Lack of information: Many of the civilians haven’t received any information about the choices available to them once they are freed. How can they be expected to decide whether to return to their home villages or to resettle in another part of the country if they don’t know what resources will be available to them once they arrive?
- Humanitarian assistance: It’s extremely important that the displaced civilians get the help they need in resettling, especially food, water and shelter as they re-establish their homes.
- Incommunicado detention: Around 12,000 persons (including children) suspected of links to the Tamil Tiger rebels are being held by the government without charge in incommunicado detention, separately from the displaced civilians. If the Human Rights Watch report is right, this number could increase dramatically next week. All these detainees should be promptly charged with a recognizable criminal offense and given fair trials in civilian courts, or else released.
I really hope that next week I won’t be writing about how the government announcement has not been implemented as we all hope, or turns out to be something less than promised. We’ll be watching.
Organizations like Amnesty and HRW will not get any attention and therefore any money if there weren't any conflicts. This is another example of playing the opposition party role (that is to oppose anything the ruling party does).
Now the international media and the so called human rights activists try to onsist that the GOSL is opening these camps due their pressure and thereby try to undermine any reconciliation effort taken by indicating that the GOSL didn't want to release these people. But if you have a look at what happened, the GOSL made a promise that they will resettle the civilians by a date and they are sticking to it the people barked around it and will keep doing so.
And who are you to say that anyone who had links with the LTTE should be released without any rehabilitation. It is the Sri Lankans who are gonna suffer if you do it, not the so called Human Rights Activists. The GOSL has said clearly that they believe most of the LTTe combatants, including the child soldiers will not be charged in courts, since they were forecefully recruited by the LTTE, but they need to be rehabilitated atleast to think outside what the LTTE brainwashed.
Organizations like Amnesty and HRW will not get any attention and therefore any money if there weren’t any conflicts. This is another example of playing the opposition party role (that is to oppose anything the ruling party does).
Now the international media and the so called human rights activists try to onsist that the GOSL is opening these camps due their pressure and thereby try to undermine any reconciliation effort taken by indicating that the GOSL didn’t want to release these people. But if you have a look at what happened, the GOSL made a promise that they will resettle the civilians by a date and they are sticking to it the people barked around it and will keep doing so.
And who are you to say that anyone who had links with the LTTE should be released without any rehabilitation. It is the Sri Lankans who are gonna suffer if you do it, not the so called Human Rights Activists. The GOSL has said clearly that they believe most of the LTTe combatants, including the child soldiers will not be charged in courts, since they were forecefully recruited by the LTTE, but they need to be rehabilitated atleast to think outside what the LTTE brainwashed.
In response to Bharatha's comment above, the Sri Lankan government promised last May that it would resettle 80% of the displaced civilians within 180 days. It later backed off that promise; in September, it said that all the displaced civilians would be resettled by Jan. 31. But while people were awaiting the de-mining of their home villages, they should have been free to live elsewhere in the country, either in the camps set up for them by the government or elsewhere. If the government had reason to suspect people of a crime, then it should charge and try them, not simply assume that because of their ethnicity and where they came from, they're all guilty.
As for those who've been detained because of suspected links to the Tigers, they still have rights. If they're guilty of a crime, then they should be brought to justice. But the government needs to prove it in a fair trial and not simply lock them up on the basis of the government's own assertion. If a detainee voluntarily confesses to working for the Tigers (and we'd want to be very sure that the confession was actually voluntary and not coerced), then it would make sense to have him/her undergo a rehabilitation program before being released.
yet another post from amnesty international ( written by racist who equated tamils to mass murdering tamil tiger terrorist murderers, jim mcdonald) made up of silly allegations and empty unjustifieds speculations.
they can't believe this statement by sri lanka (even though we have good record of keeping past ones) but they sure did believe lies of terrorist propaganda. see past posts here on sri lanka that have turned out to be lies .
are we going to get apologies for your slanders against us ? huh mr racist jim?
btw see how human rights watch refers to amnesty and amnesty refers to hrw to back the same claims. its head eating the tail.
bc this vile racist ( counterpart at hrw ) depends mainly on murderers' propaganda and cannot refer to them so they refer to each other.
lol @ the racist who thinks to fools us, sri lankans by such.
i hope he and his family suffer the same fate his beloved friends and sources inflicted on us . after all according this disgusting person that was nothing.
will i be censored for being frank and truthful ? as happened here before .
so mush for freedom of expression at amnesty international.
In response to sittingnut's comment above, I'd make the following points:
1. I'd ask everyone to review the Terms of Use for this site. Commenters who violate those conditions may have their comments deleted or be restricted from commenting.
2. It's easy to be abusive and to slander people you disagree with. I would note that the assertions made in the comment aren't accompanied by any evidence backing up those assertions. For the record, I reject the allegations leveled against me in the comment. If there's evidence for the assertions in the comment, let it be presented and then we can discuss it.
3. The comment asserts that the Sri Lankan government has a good record of keeping past promises. It's unclear to me exactly what this is referring to. The government did promise in late May that 80% of the IDPs would be resettled in 180 days, then in Sept. it said that the bulk would be resettled by the end of this year and all of them would be resettled by Jan. 31. Of the roughly 280,000 who were placed in camps earlier, there are about 130,000 or so left, as the government has been releasing them from the camps. However, the government has consistently not allowed independent observers to have unhindered access to the IDPs, and we have gotten reports that at least some of those released were transferred to other camps where their freedom of movement was restricted. So were they really released at all, or just transferred? If the government would allow independent observers into the area, it would help in determining what's actually happening.
4. I try to understand the emotion behind the comment. People in Sri Lanka have suffered terribly over the past decades, on both sides. My heart goes to out to all the victims and their families, whether Sinhalese, Muslim or Tamil. I hope that Sri Lanka can look forward to a peaceful future, with no more human rights violations or abuses. But while the violations go on, we'll keep campaigning against them.
In response to Bharatha’s comment above, the Sri Lankan government promised last May that it would resettle 80% of the displaced civilians within 180 days. It later backed off that promise; in September, it said that all the displaced civilians would be resettled by Jan. 31. But while people were awaiting the de-mining of their home villages, they should have been free to live elsewhere in the country, either in the camps set up for them by the government or elsewhere. If the government had reason to suspect people of a crime, then it should charge and try them, not simply assume that because of their ethnicity and where they came from, they’re all guilty.
As for those who’ve been detained because of suspected links to the Tigers, they still have rights. If they’re guilty of a crime, then they should be brought to justice. But the government needs to prove it in a fair trial and not simply lock them up on the basis of the government’s own assertion. If a detainee voluntarily confesses to working for the Tigers (and we’d want to be very sure that the confession was actually voluntary and not coerced), then it would make sense to have him/her undergo a rehabilitation program before being released.
yet another post from amnesty international ( written by racist who equated tamils to mass murdering tamil tiger terrorist murderers, jim mcdonald) made up of silly allegations and empty unjustifieds speculations.
they can’t believe this statement by sri lanka (even though we have good record of keeping past ones) but they sure did believe lies of terrorist propaganda. see past posts here on sri lanka that have turned out to be lies .
are we going to get apologies for your slanders against us ? huh mr racist jim?
btw see how human rights watch refers to amnesty and amnesty refers to hrw to back the same claims. its head eating the tail.
bc this vile racist ( counterpart at hrw ) depends mainly on murderers’ propaganda and cannot refer to them so they refer to each other.
lol @ the racist who thinks to fools us, sri lankans by such.
i hope he and his family suffer the same fate his beloved friends and sources inflicted on us . after all according this disgusting person that was nothing.
will i be censored for being frank and truthful ? as happened here before .
so mush for freedom of expression at amnesty international.
In response to sittingnut’s comment above, I’d make the following points:
1. I’d ask everyone to review the Terms of Use for this site. Commenters who violate those conditions may have their comments deleted or be restricted from commenting.
2. It’s easy to be abusive and to slander people you disagree with. I would note that the assertions made in the comment aren’t accompanied by any evidence backing up those assertions. For the record, I reject the allegations leveled against me in the comment. If there’s evidence for the assertions in the comment, let it be presented and then we can discuss it.
3. The comment asserts that the Sri Lankan government has a good record of keeping past promises. It’s unclear to me exactly what this is referring to. The government did promise in late May that 80% of the IDPs would be resettled in 180 days, then in Sept. it said that the bulk would be resettled by the end of this year and all of them would be resettled by Jan. 31. Of the roughly 280,000 who were placed in camps earlier, there are about 130,000 or so left, as the government has been releasing them from the camps. However, the government has consistently not allowed independent observers to have unhindered access to the IDPs, and we have gotten reports that at least some of those released were transferred to other camps where their freedom of movement was restricted. So were they really released at all, or just transferred? If the government would allow independent observers into the area, it would help in determining what’s actually happening.
4. I try to understand the emotion behind the comment. People in Sri Lanka have suffered terribly over the past decades, on both sides. My heart goes to out to all the victims and their families, whether Sinhalese, Muslim or Tamil. I hope that Sri Lanka can look forward to a peaceful future, with no more human rights violations or abuses. But while the violations go on, we’ll keep campaigning against them.
First of all, it was the AI and HRW whose reports had helped the GOSL to get the LTTE banned in the West. Changing tunes by people like Barath is very much in tune with Mahintha's regime. The thugs who are occupying the Presidential palace must be rehabilitated first.
First of all, it was the AI and HRW whose reports had helped the GOSL to get the LTTE banned in the West. Changing tunes by people like Barath is very much in tune with Mahintha’s regime. The thugs who are occupying the Presidential palace must be rehabilitated first.
It is true "We’ll believe it when we see it!", but state terror don't let anyone see.
To Warren B:
What helped to get the LTTE banned in the West was when it finally experienced what SL had been enduring for 30+ years, courtsey of AQ, on 11-Sept.
The Western bloc knew exactly what the LTTE stood for and did. It did nothing to prevent the LTTE-supporting diaspora fundraising to keep its military machine well supplied until the New York attacks. After that date, they could no longer hide behind the hypocrisy of 'Good Terrorists' (e.g. LTTE) and 'Bad Terrorists' (e.g. Al Quaeda).
Reports by AI & HRW were useful but but were not the deciding factor in getting LTTE banned. Even now, that ban is observed more in the breach, especially in Scandinavia, UK and especially Canada.
What helped to crush the LTTE was the unwavering support of the 'Coalition of the Willing' (and I use that term advisedly), which did NOT include AI, HRW and the rest of the 'Save the Tiger' movement.
It is true “We’ll believe it when we see it!”, but state terror don’t let anyone see.
To Warren B:
What helped to get the LTTE banned in the West was when it finally experienced what SL had been enduring for 30+ years, courtsey of AQ, on 11-Sept.
The Western bloc knew exactly what the LTTE stood for and did. It did nothing to prevent the LTTE-supporting diaspora fundraising to keep its military machine well supplied until the New York attacks. After that date, they could no longer hide behind the hypocrisy of ‘Good Terrorists’ (e.g. LTTE) and ‘Bad Terrorists’ (e.g. Al Quaeda).
Reports by AI & HRW were useful but but were not the deciding factor in getting LTTE banned. Even now, that ban is observed more in the breach, especially in Scandinavia, UK and especially Canada.
What helped to crush the LTTE was the unwavering support of the ‘Coalition of the Willing’ (and I use that term advisedly), which did NOT include AI, HRW and the rest of the ‘Save the Tiger’ movement.
I should mention, as I have elsewhere, that Amnesty International has publicly welcomed the government's announcement: http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-release….
I should mention, as I have elsewhere, that Amnesty International has publicly welcomed the government's announcement: http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-release….
I should mention, as I have elsewhere, that Amnesty International has publicly welcomed the government's announcement: http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-release….
sittingnut continue to expose himself with the level of racism in his mind, is a sample for Racist state terror babarians who recently killed over 50,000 Tamils in their home land & refused let the IDPs to their homes.
They still in the name of demining , DEMINE & DESTROY MINORITIES.
I should mention, as I have elsewhere, that Amnesty International has publicly welcomed the government’s announcement: http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/sri-lanka-promise-free-displaced-must-be-followed-concrete-action-200911.
sittingnut continue to expose himself with the level of racism in his mind, is a sample for Racist state terror babarians who recently killed over 50,000 Tamils in their home land & refused let the IDPs to their homes.
They still in the name of demining , DEMINE & DESTROY MINORITIES.
Just by looking at the user name anyone can guess who is the racist… Sin Hell a, are you seing the same dreams that some reporters of London Times do? That wake up with some numbers and keep crying that this much of Tamils died. Now is it upto 50,000 huh? You might come back after this weekend having dreamt the number creeping upto about 100,000?
Pathetic, you idiotic diaspora doesn't want the communities to live together, it is you who fuelled this war and it is you who don't want reconcilliation, it is you who wish Sri Lankan economy to destroy even if that means the so called brothers and sisters of you Tamils too suffer in Sri Lanka.
True you guys used this civil war to get your visas in other developped countries; atleast now let the contry that gave you free education, free medical facilities to live peacefully without spreading just hatred..
And also to Jim's comment about breaking the 180 day promise, you should note that the Sri Lankan president clearly stated in an interview with an Indian TV station that the 6 month timeframe is not a promise but a target.
Opening up the camps on the 1st of Dec. means that target has been achieved almost in time. But due to the landmines the resettlement will run over the inital plan, which I recon anyone with any rational thinking will understand due to the unpredictable nature of how and where the landmines are and the wrecked infrastucture.
Jim McD doesn't critique — he builds up evidence & documentation, & presents them.He keeps his own emotions under severe control, never hits back at the OUTRIGHT PROVOCATIONS in the Sinhalese "comments".
Now they're making fun of the numbers of the dead. Fun is not evidence. Nor are official figures no one can verify. And the first principle in human rights work is, no establishment is ever given the benefit of the doubt.
The truth emerge. Slowly. Surely. Always. Like the Armenian genocide.
Official denial only compounds the truth of genocide into one solid monolith that refuses to be diluted.
That's how guilty regimes themselves keep these processes alive.
The Wheel is turning even as we speak.
Just by looking at the user name anyone can guess who is the racist… Sin Hell a, are you seing the same dreams that some reporters of London Times do? That wake up with some numbers and keep crying that this much of Tamils died. Now is it upto 50,000 huh? You might come back after this weekend having dreamt the number creeping upto about 100,000?
Pathetic, you idiotic diaspora doesn’t want the communities to live together, it is you who fuelled this war and it is you who don’t want reconcilliation, it is you who wish Sri Lankan economy to destroy even if that means the so called brothers and sisters of you Tamils too suffer in Sri Lanka.
True you guys used this civil war to get your visas in other developped countries; atleast now let the contry that gave you free education, free medical facilities to live peacefully without spreading just hatred..
And also to Jim’s comment about breaking the 180 day promise, you should note that the Sri Lankan president clearly stated in an interview with an Indian TV station that the 6 month timeframe is not a promise but a target.
Opening up the camps on the 1st of Dec. means that target has been achieved almost in time. But due to the landmines the resettlement will run over the inital plan, which I recon anyone with any rational thinking will understand due to the unpredictable nature of how and where the landmines are and the wrecked infrastucture.
Jim McD doesn’t critique — he builds up evidence & documentation, & presents them.He keeps his own emotions under severe control, never hits back at the OUTRIGHT PROVOCATIONS in the Sinhalese “comments”.
Now they’re making fun of the numbers of the dead. Fun is not evidence. Nor are official figures no one can verify. And the first principle in human rights work is, no establishment is ever given the benefit of the doubt.
The truth emerge. Slowly. Surely. Always. Like the Armenian genocide.
Official denial only compounds the truth of genocide into one solid monolith that refuses to be diluted.
That’s how guilty regimes themselves keep these processes alive.
The Wheel is turning even as we speak.
Baratha,
u moron propaganda idiot, see my friend wrote the cricket score http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/how-did-sri-lanka…
It is true my brothers & sisters are suffering in the hand of buddist racist terror state, that is why I am here to expose the criminals.
We show many reconcilliation from the terror state over 6 decades after british gave the powers to Terror state.
If the minotities get actual freedom/equal right, I have no work here.
Baratha,
u moron propaganda idiot, see my friend wrote the cricket score http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/how-did-sri-lanka…
It is true my brothers & sisters are suffering in the hand of buddist racist terror state, that is why I am here to expose the criminals.
We show many reconcilliation from the terror state over 6 decades after british gave the powers to Terror state.
If the minotities get actual freedom/equal right, I have no work here.
Baratha,
u moron propaganda idiot, see my friend wrote the cricket score http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/how-did-sri-lanka…
It is true my brothers & sisters are suffering in the hand of buddist racist terror state, that is why I am here to expose the criminals.
We show many reconcilliation from the terror state over 6 decades after british gave the powers to Terror state.
If the minotities get actual freedom/equal right, I have no work here.
In response to Bharatha's comment of Nov. 26, 7:12 P.M., we need to distinguish between resettling the IDPs in their home villages and allowing the IDPs freedom of movement. As AI has been saying from the outset of our "Unlock the Camps" campaign, we don't think the IDPs should be sent back to their home villages until the areas are safe. However, that is separate from whether the IDPs are allowed to leave the camps or not. The civilians should not be put in detention (which is what they are, if they can't leave the camps) unless the government has specific reason to suspect them of a crime. The civilians may very well choose to stay in the camps. But if they choose to live elsewhere in the country while waiting for their home villages to be cleared, they should be free to do so.
In any event, I really hope that we'll see as of Dec. 1 that all the IDPs are given their freedom of movement back.
For those interested, AI issued a press release today asking the leaders of the Commonwealth to address the human rights crisis in Sri Lanka – http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report….
In response to Bharatha's comment of Nov. 26, 7:12 P.M., we need to distinguish between resettling the IDPs in their home villages and allowing the IDPs freedom of movement. As AI has been saying from the outset of our "Unlock the Camps" campaign, we don't think the IDPs should be sent back to their home villages until the areas are safe. However, that is separate from whether the IDPs are allowed to leave the camps or not. The civilians should not be put in detention (which is what they are, if they can't leave the camps) unless the government has specific reason to suspect them of a crime. The civilians may very well choose to stay in the camps. But if they choose to live elsewhere in the country while waiting for their home villages to be cleared, they should be free to do so.
In any event, I really hope that we'll see as of Dec. 1 that all the IDPs are given their freedom of movement back.
For those interested, AI issued a press release today asking the leaders of the Commonwealth to address the human rights crisis in Sri Lanka – http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report….
In response to Bharatha's comment of Nov. 26, 7:12 P.M., we need to distinguish between resettling the IDPs in their home villages and allowing the IDPs freedom of movement. As AI has been saying from the outset of our "Unlock the Camps" campaign, we don't think the IDPs should be sent back to their home villages until the areas are safe. However, that is separate from whether the IDPs are allowed to leave the camps or not. The civilians should not be put in detention (which is what they are, if they can't leave the camps) unless the government has specific reason to suspect them of a crime. The civilians may very well choose to stay in the camps. But if they choose to live elsewhere in the country while waiting for their home villages to be cleared, they should be free to do so.
In any event, I really hope that we'll see as of Dec. 1 that all the IDPs are given their freedom of movement back.
For those interested, AI issued a press release today asking the leaders of the Commonwealth to address the human rights crisis in Sri Lanka – http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report….
Baratha,
u moron propaganda idiot, see my friend wrote the cricket score
http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/how-did-sri-lanka-end-up-in-this-crisis/#comment-4029
It is true my brothers & sisters are suffering in the hand of buddist racist terror state, that is why I am here to expose the criminals.
We show many reconcilliation from the terror state over 6 decades after british gave the powers to Terror state.
If the minotities get actual freedom/equal right, I have no work here.
Dear Jim,
AI's arrogance, exhibited repeatedly during the final phases of Eelam War IV, and now, in the post-conflict phase never fails to amaze me. Your headline of “We’ll believe it when we see it!” says it all.
A non-independent human rights organisation funded by the Western bloc governments (as I proved earlier), which relentlessly pressed for a ceasefire in the final decisive phase of the annihilation of the LTTE, knowing perfectly well that this ceasefire would allow the LTTE to re-group and re-commence its terror campaign simply has no credibility and no right to demand anything of the SL govt and people.
And now you continue with the Commonwealth to keep on flogging the same dead horse. I'm interested to note that AI have not (yet) demanded that other Commonwealth member states currently engaged in trying to fight in Afghanistan (Britain, Australia & Canada) and in Iraq (Britain & Australia) are also investigated for their culpability in war crimes and truly vast civilian deaths.
When can we expect to see AI drones invade football, rugby & ice-hockey arenas in the UK, Australia & Canada demanding that these pure, wholesome advocates of human rights 'play by the rules'. In the next week? Month? or never? I'll bet my mortgage on 'never'. You simply don't have to balls to launch such campaigns in the countries containing your funders and supporters.
The LTTE-suppporting Tamil exiles ensured the deaths of thousands of SL civilians through their ultra-efficient fundraising for their 'sole representatives'. When can we expect AI to press for these paymasters of the LTTE, still living in safety in the West, be pursued and brought to justice?
Where's Irene Khan when we need her to show some leadership? Too busy having a manicure on her way to lecture Sri Lanka, again?
“We’ll believe it when we see it!”
In response to Bharatha’s comment of Nov. 26, 7:12 P.M., we need to distinguish between resettling the IDPs in their home villages and allowing the IDPs freedom of movement. As AI has been saying from the outset of our “Unlock the Camps” campaign, we don’t think the IDPs should be sent back to their home villages until the areas are safe. However, that is separate from whether the IDPs are allowed to leave the camps or not. The civilians should not be put in detention (which is what they are, if they can’t leave the camps) unless the government has specific reason to suspect them of a crime. The civilians may very well choose to stay in the camps. But if they choose to live elsewhere in the country while waiting for their home villages to be cleared, they should be free to do so.
In any event, I really hope that we’ll see as of Dec. 1 that all the IDPs are given their freedom of movement back.
For those interested, AI issued a press release today asking the leaders of the Commonwealth to address the human rights crisis in Sri Lanka – http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/commonwealth-leaders-must-focus-sri-lanka-crisis-20091127.
Dear Jim,
AI’s arrogance, exhibited repeatedly during the final phases of Eelam War IV, and now, in the post-conflict phase never fails to amaze me. Your headline of “We’ll believe it when we see it!” says it all.
A non-independent human rights organisation funded by the Western bloc governments (as I proved earlier), which relentlessly pressed for a ceasefire in the final decisive phase of the annihilation of the LTTE, knowing perfectly well that this ceasefire would allow the LTTE to re-group and re-commence its terror campaign simply has no credibility and no right to demand anything of the SL govt and people.
And now you continue with the Commonwealth to keep on flogging the same dead horse. I’m interested to note that AI have not (yet) demanded that other Commonwealth member states currently engaged in trying to fight in Afghanistan (Britain, Australia & Canada) and in Iraq (Britain & Australia) are also investigated for their culpability in war crimes and truly vast civilian deaths.
When can we expect to see AI drones invade football, rugby & ice-hockey arenas in the UK, Australia & Canada demanding that these pure, wholesome advocates of human rights ‘play by the rules’. In the next week? Month? or never? I’ll bet my mortgage on ‘never’. You simply don’t have to balls to launch such campaigns in the countries containing your funders and supporters.
The LTTE-suppporting Tamil exiles ensured the deaths of thousands of SL civilians through their ultra-efficient fundraising for their ‘sole representatives’. When can we expect AI to press for these paymasters of the LTTE, still living in safety in the West, be pursued and brought to justice?
Where’s Irene Khan when we need her to show some leadership? Too busy having a manicure on her way to lecture Sri Lanka, again?
“We’ll believe it when we see it!”
Tamil National Remembrance Day, remember those who were killed under state terror over 6 decades. We will believe it we will achive freedom from state terror Sinhala chauvinism.
Tamil National Remembrance Day, remember those who were killed under state terror over 6 decades. We will believe it we will achive freedom from state terror Sinhala chauvinism.
In response to Zarodz's comment above, I'd make the following points:
1. Zarodz claims to have "proved" that AI is funded by Western bloc governments. I don't recall seeing any such proof. If the reference is to the fact that Mango asked earlier whether AI has gotten funding from the EU and the UK government and I've asked about it but am still waiting to hear back, that's not proof, as I've said earlier in another forum. It may be frustrating and trying Mango's patience, but it doesn't constitute proof, one way or the other.
2. Those interested in what AI has to say about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq should visit the pages for those countries on the AIUSA website (www.amnestyusa.org). You may also want to look at the material under "Counter Terror with Justice," which is a major priority campaign for AI dealing with human rights violations being committed in connection with the "war on terror." The claim that AI doesn't criticize Western bloc goverrnments because it's funded by them simply doesn't hold up under scrutiny, if you examine what AI has publicly said concerning those governments. And the fact that AI doesn't pursue identical tactics concerning different countries doesn't prove bias at all; situations and opportunities differ, so different tactics may be used.
Mango(Zarodz),
Back to your usual LTTE arguments and theories of AI being funded by LTTE!
As monotonous as ever! Anyways await the rule of a tyrant in the name of Fonseka soon – Srilanka will degenerate into a Burma pretty soon and you proud Sinhala chaunvinist can be proud of that too!
In response to Zarodz's comment above, I'd make the following points:
1. Zarodz claims to have "proved" that AI is funded by Western bloc governments. I don't recall seeing any such proof. If the reference is to the fact that Mango asked earlier whether AI has gotten funding from the EU and the UK government and I've asked about it but am still waiting to hear back, that's not proof, as I've said earlier in another forum. It may be frustrating and trying Mango's patience, but it doesn't constitute proof, one way or the other.
2. Those interested in what AI has to say about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq should visit the pages for those countries on the AIUSA website (www.amnestyusa.org). You may also want to look at the material under "Counter Terror with Justice," which is a major priority campaign for AI dealing with human rights violations being committed in connection with the "war on terror." The claim that AI doesn't criticize Western bloc goverrnments because it's funded by them simply doesn't hold up under scrutiny, if you examine what AI has publicly said concerning those governments. And the fact that AI doesn't pursue identical tactics concerning different countries doesn't prove bias at all; situations and opportunities differ, so different tactics may be used.
In response to Zarodz's comment above, I'd make the following points:
1. Zarodz claims to have "proved" that AI is funded by Western bloc governments. I don't recall seeing any such proof. If the reference is to the fact that Mango asked earlier whether AI has gotten funding from the EU and the UK government and I've asked about it but am still waiting to hear back, that's not proof, as I've said earlier in another forum. It may be frustrating and trying Mango's patience, but it doesn't constitute proof, one way or the other.
2. Those interested in what AI has to say about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq should visit the pages for those countries on the AIUSA website (www.amnestyusa.org). You may also want to look at the material under "Counter Terror with Justice," which is a major priority campaign for AI dealing with human rights violations being committed in connection with the "war on terror." The claim that AI doesn't criticize Western bloc goverrnments because it's funded by them simply doesn't hold up under scrutiny, if you examine what AI has publicly said concerning those governments. And the fact that AI doesn't pursue identical tactics concerning different countries doesn't prove bias at all; situations and opportunities differ, so different tactics may be used.
Dear Jim,
Sorry if you missed my findings of AI's funding. It may've been censored or lost in the previous debate. Here it is again.
Here's the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
"Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union."
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." That's a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My 'research' took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI's position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
AI doesn't need funding from the LTTE.
Humanitarian — how's it going on the LTTE's 'Great Heroes' Day'? Or should it be 'Great Loser's Day'. Have tried to get through to Fat Boy in VP to find out how life in the Underworld is?
Dear Jim,
Sorry if you missed my findings of AI's funding. It may've been censored or lost in the previous debate. Here it is again.
Here's the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
"Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union."
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." That's a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My 'research' took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI's position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
Tactics: If the 'Play by the Rules' was deemed good enough to disrupt the SL cricket team, to make a point about HR abuses in SL, why isn't it good enough to work in the UK, US, Australia etc? We all know the answer, of course. AI is too scared to bite the hand that feeds it.
Humanitarian — AI doesn't need funding from the LTTE. It gets enough from the EU. I have to use these stupid names to avoid being censored, unlike Eelamists who appear to have free rein here – no great surprise really.
How's it going on the LTTE's 'Great Heroes' Day'? Or should it be 'Great Loser's Day'. This year's London celebrations attracted over 20,000 whiners accompanied by their tame UK political supporters bemoaning the loss of Eelam. Tragic, no?
http://tinyurl.com/yjs785o
"…where large cut-outs of Tamil Eelam were displayed on either side of the stage."
I wish them many happy years of longing wistfully at large cut-outs of Tamil Eelam. That's about as close to Eelam as they're going to get.
p.s. have you tried to get through to Fat Boy Prabha to find out how the afterlife is treating him?
Dear Jim,
Sorry if you missed my findings of AI's funding. It may've been censored or lost in the previous debate. Here it is again.
Here's the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
"Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union."
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." That's a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My 'research' took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI's position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
AI doesn't need funding from the LTTE.
Humanitarian — how's it going on the LTTE's 'Great Heroes' Day'? Or should it be 'Great Loser's Day'. Have tried to get through to Fat Boy in VP to find out how life in the Underworld is?
Dear Jim,
Sorry if you missed my findings of AI's funding. It may've been censored or lost in the previous debate. Here it is again.
Here's the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
"Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union."
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." That's a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My 'research' took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI's position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
AI doesn't need funding from the LTTE.
Humanitarian — how's it going on the LTTE's 'Great Heroes' Day'? Or should it be 'Great Loser's Day'. Have tried to get through to Fat Boy in VP to find out how life in the Underworld is?
Dear Jim,
Sorry if you missed my findings of AI's funding. It may've been censored or lost in the previous debate. Here it is again.
Here's the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
"Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union."
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." That's a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My 'research' took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI's position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
Tactics: If the 'Play by the Rules' was deemed good enough to disrupt the SL cricket team, to make a point about HR abuses in SL, why isn't it good enough to work in the UK, US, Australia etc? We all know the answer, of course. AI is too scared to bite the hand that feeds it.
Humanitarian — AI doesn't need funding from the LTTE. It gets enough from the EU. I have to use these stupid names to avoid being censored, unlike Eelamists who appear to have free rein here – no great surprise really.
How's it going on the LTTE's 'Great Heroes' Day'? Or should it be 'Great Loser's Day'. This year's London celebrations attracted over 20,000 whiners accompanied by their tame UK political supporters bemoaning the loss of Eelam. Tragic, no?
http://tinyurl.com/yjs785o
"…where large cut-outs of Tamil Eelam were displayed on either side of the stage."
I wish them many happy years of longing wistfully at large cut-outs of Tamil Eelam. That's about as close to Eelam as they're going to get.
p.s. have you tried to get through to Fat Boy Prabha to find out how the afterlife is treating him?
Dear Jim,
Sorry if you missed my findings of AI's funding. It may've been censored or lost in the previous debate. Here it is again.
Here's the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
"Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union."
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." That's a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My 'research' took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI's position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
Tactics: If the 'Play by the Rules' was deemed good enough to disrupt the SL cricket team, to make a point about HR abuses in SL, why isn't it good enough to work in the UK, US, Australia etc? We all know the answer, of course. AI is too scared to bite the hand that feeds it.
Humanitarian — AI doesn't need funding from the LTTE. It gets enough from the EU. I have to use these stupid names to avoid being censored, unlike Eelamists who appear to have free rein here – no great surprise really.
How's it going on the LTTE's 'Great Heroes' Day'? Or should it be 'Great Loser's Day'. This year's London celebrations attracted over 20,000 whiners accompanied by their tame UK political supporters bemoaning the loss of Eelam. Tragic, no?
http://tinyurl.com/yjs785o
"…where large cut-outs of Tamil Eelam were displayed on either side of the stage."
I wish them many happy years of longing wistfully at large cut-outs of Tamil Eelam. That's about as close to Eelam as they're going to get.
p.s. have you tried to get through to Fat Boy Prabha to find out how the afterlife is treating him?
Hello
Zardoz / Mango
Still twisting the facts here and blaming AI for everything.
Any away, just come back from Colombo and itching to put you in your place.:)
So many of us owe so much to
So many who sacrificed their life .
So many wanted to save our homeland
so many wanted to save our generation
So many wanted to save our language – that
So many are not in this world on 27
So many of our mothers lost their children
So many of our children lost their parents
So many of our sisters lost their husbands
So many of our brothers lost their siblings
So many of them lost their bread winners
So many fathers lost their next of kin.!
So many of us are living in foreign countries safely
So many of us are living in these countries lavishly.
So many have given to those suffering people generously.
So many have suffered so much to those immensely – today
So many of us owe so much gratitude to all of them
So many of our prayers with so much tears go to them.!!!!!
Mango(Zarodz),
Back to your usual LTTE arguments and theories of AI being funded by LTTE!
As monotonous as ever! Anyways await the rule of a tyrant in the name of Fonseka soon – Srilanka will degenerate into a Burma pretty soon and you proud Sinhala chaunvinist can be proud of that too!
In response to Zarodz’s comment above, I’d make the following points:
1. Zarodz claims to have “proved” that AI is funded by Western bloc governments. I don’t recall seeing any such proof. If the reference is to the fact that Mango asked earlier whether AI has gotten funding from the EU and the UK government and I’ve asked about it but am still waiting to hear back, that’s not proof, as I’ve said earlier in another forum. It may be frustrating and trying Mango’s patience, but it doesn’t constitute proof, one way or the other.
2. Those interested in what AI has to say about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq should visit the pages for those countries on the AIUSA website (www.amnestyusa.org). You may also want to look at the material under “Counter Terror with Justice,” which is a major priority campaign for AI dealing with human rights violations being committed in connection with the “war on terror.” The claim that AI doesn’t criticize Western bloc goverrnments because it’s funded by them simply doesn’t hold up under scrutiny, if you examine what AI has publicly said concerning those governments. And the fact that AI doesn’t pursue identical tactics concerning different countries doesn’t prove bias at all; situations and opportunities differ, so different tactics may be used.
In response to Zardoz's comment of Nov. 28. 12:22 P.M., you appear to have misunderstood the section of the AI website you're quoting from. It's advice to other human rights defenders as to possible sources of financing for their work. The title of that page is "Financial Resources." It's a sub-topic under the topic "Resources." And "Resources" itself is one of the topics under "Human Rights Defenders." If you click on all those links, which are given at the top of the page entitled "Financial Resources," you can see what I mean.
Nowhere does it say on the "Financial Resources" page that AI gets funding from those sources. AI's sources of funding aren't being discussed on that page.
Dear Jim,
Sorry if you missed my findings of AI’s funding. It may’ve been censored or lost in the previous debate. Here it is again.
Here’s the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
“Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union.“
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be ‘completely independent from government, corporate or national interests.” That’s a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My ‘research’ took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI’s position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
AI doesn’t need funding from the LTTE.
Humanitarian — how’s it going on the LTTE’s ‘Great Heroes’ Day’? Or should it be ‘Great Loser’s Day’. Have tried to get through to Fat Boy in VP to find out how life in the Underworld is?
Dear Jim,
Sorry if you missed my findings of AI’s funding. It may’ve been censored or lost in the previous debate. Here it is again.
Here’s the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
“Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union.“
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be ‘completely independent from government, corporate or national interests.” That’s a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My ‘research’ took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI’s position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
Tactics: If the ‘Play by the Rules’ was deemed good enough to disrupt the SL cricket team, to make a point about HR abuses in SL, why isn’t it good enough to work in the UK, US, Australia etc? We all know the answer, of course. AI is too scared to bite the hand that feeds it.
Humanitarian — AI doesn’t need funding from the LTTE. It gets enough from the EU. I have to use these stupid names to avoid being censored, unlike Eelamists who appear to have free rein here – no great surprise really.
How’s it going on the LTTE’s ‘Great Heroes’ Day’? Or should it be ‘Great Loser’s Day’. This year’s London celebrations attracted over 20,000 whiners accompanied by their tame UK political supporters bemoaning the loss of Eelam. Tragic, no?
http://tinyurl.com/yjs785o
“…where large cut-outs of Tamil Eelam were displayed on either side of the stage.”
I wish them many happy years of longing wistfully at large cut-outs of Tamil Eelam. That’s about as close to Eelam as they’re going to get.
p.s. have you tried to get through to Fat Boy Prabha to find out how the afterlife is treating him?
Hello
Zardoz / Mango
Still twisting the facts here and blaming AI for everything.
Any away, just come back from Colombo and itching to put you in your place.:)
So many of us owe so much to
So many who sacrificed their life .
So many wanted to save our homeland
so many wanted to save our generation
So many wanted to save our language – that
So many are not in this world on 27
So many of our mothers lost their children
So many of our children lost their parents
So many of our sisters lost their husbands
So many of our brothers lost their siblings
So many of them lost their bread winners
So many fathers lost their next of kin.!
So many of us are living in foreign countries safely
So many of us are living in these countries lavishly.
So many have given to those suffering people generously.
So many have suffered so much to those immensely – today
So many of us owe so much gratitude to all of them
So many of our prayers with so much tears go to them.!!!!!
In response to Zardoz’s comment of Nov. 28. 12:22 P.M., you appear to have misunderstood the section of the AI website you’re quoting from. It’s advice to other human rights defenders as to possible sources of financing for their work. The title of that page is “Financial Resources.” It’s a sub-topic under the topic “Resources.” And “Resources” itself is one of the topics under “Human Rights Defenders.” If you click on all those links, which are given at the top of the page entitled “Financial Resources,” you can see what I mean.
Nowhere does it say on the “Financial Resources” page that AI gets funding from those sources. AI’s sources of funding aren’t being discussed on that page.
Tanbi/Thambi,
That is by far the worst poetry I've read in a long time. You'll probably win the Maamanithar (Great Human Being) award from the dregs of LTTE leadership feverishly plotting their comeback in London, Toronto and other Eelam-friendly cities.
You forgot to add one more line of lament – that for the lost generation of children murderded and co-opted by the LTTE into furthering it's racist dreams. Let me help you with some bad poetry:
So many of us gave in safety so that others' children could be murdered
So, how was Colombo without the previously ever-present threat of bus and train bombs, planted by the LTTE?
AI Funding
Jim, mea culpa for mistaking financial resources for actual AI funding sources. I've looked a little bit deeper and here's some evidence of EU funding for AI. You'll have to ask your bosses for more detailed reporting because the EU is famously opaque in its' finances and a mere non-NGO person like me won't get an answer from the EU.
"A report by NGO Monitor entitled “Europe’s Hidden Hand, EU Funding for Political NGOs in the Arab-Israeli Conflict" details (in as much depth as the public can access) who we are funding and what the groups advocate."
http://tpa.typepad.com/campaign/2008/05/the-eu-fo…
There's simple explanation for why your bosses won't reply to this query. They don't want to admit to being funded by the EU and thus lose their status of being "completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." I understand. If I was in their shoes, I'd do the same to ensure that the EU gravy train continues distribute taxpayer funding to its' favoured NGOs, to further the EU's political aims and objectives.
Tanbi/Thambi,
That is by far the worst poetry I've read in a long time. You'll probably win the Maamanithar (Great Human Being) award from the dregs of LTTE leadership feverishly plotting their comeback in London, Toronto and other Eelam-friendly cities.
You forgot to add one more line of lament – that for the lost generation of children murderded and co-opted by the LTTE into furthering it's racist dreams. Let me help you with some bad poetry:
So many of us gave in safety so that others' children could be murdered
So, how was Colombo without the previously ever-present threat of bus and train bombs, planted by the LTTE?
AI Funding
Jim, mea culpa for mistaking financial resources for actual AI funding sources. I've looked a little bit deeper and here's some evidence of EU funding for AI. You'll have to ask your bosses for more detailed reporting because the EU is famously opaque in its' finances and a mere non-NGO person like me won't get an answer from the EU.
"A report by NGO Monitor entitled “Europe’s Hidden Hand, EU Funding for Political NGOs in the Arab-Israeli Conflict" details (in as much depth as the public can access) who we are funding and what the groups advocate."
http://tpa.typepad.com/campaign/2008/05/the-eu-fo…
There's simple explanation for why your bosses won't reply to this query. They don't want to admit to being funded by the EU and thus lose their status of being "completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." I understand. If I was in their shoes, I'd do the same to ensure that the EU gravy train continues distribute taxpayer funding to its' favoured NGOs, to further the EU's political aims and objectives.
Tanbi/Thambi,
That is by far the worst poetry I've read in a long time. You'll probably win the Maamanithar (Great Human Being) award from the dregs of LTTE leadership feverishly plotting their comeback in London, Toronto and other Eelam-friendly cities.
You forgot to add one more line of lament – that for the lost generation of children murderded and co-opted by the LTTE into furthering it's racist dreams. Let me help you with some bad poetry:
So many of us gave in safety so that others' children could be murdered
So, how was Colombo without the previously ever-present threat of bus and train bombs, planted by the LTTE?
AI Funding
Jim, mea culpa for mistaking financial resources for actual AI funding sources. I've looked a little bit deeper and here's some evidence of EU funding for AI. You'll have to ask your bosses for more detailed reporting because the EU is famously opaque in its' finances and a mere non-NGO person like me won't get an answer from the EU.
"A report by NGO Monitor entitled “Europe’s Hidden Hand, EU Funding for Political NGOs in the Arab-Israeli Conflict" details (in as much depth as the public can access) who we are funding and what the groups advocate."
http://tpa.typepad.com/campaign/2008/05/the-eu-fo…
There's simple explanation for why your bosses won't reply to this query. They don't want to admit to being funded by the EU and thus lose their status of being "completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." I understand. If I was in their shoes, I'd do the same to ensure that the EU gravy train continues distribute taxpayer funding to its' favoured NGOs, to further the EU's political aims and objectives.
Tanbi/Thambi,
That is by far the worst poetry I’ve read in a long time. You’ll probably win the Maamanithar (Great Human Being) award from the dregs of LTTE leadership feverishly plotting their comeback in London, Toronto and other Eelam-friendly cities.
You forgot to add one more line of lament – that for the lost generation of children murderded and co-opted by the LTTE into furthering it’s racist dreams. Let me help you with some bad poetry:
So many of us gave in safety so that others’ children could be murdered
So, how was Colombo without the previously ever-present threat of bus and train bombs, planted by the LTTE?
AI Funding
Jim, mea culpa for mistaking financial resources for actual AI funding sources. I’ve looked a little bit deeper and here’s some evidence of EU funding for AI. You’ll have to ask your bosses for more detailed reporting because the EU is famously opaque in its’ finances and a mere non-NGO person like me won’t get an answer from the EU.
“A report by NGO Monitor entitled “Europe’s Hidden Hand, EU Funding for Political NGOs in the Arab-Israeli Conflict” details (in as much depth as the public can access) who we are funding and what the groups advocate.”
http://tpa.typepad.com/campaign/2008/05/the-eu-forces-b.html
There’s simple explanation for why your bosses won’t reply to this query. They don’t want to admit to being funded by the EU and thus lose their status of being “completely independent from government, corporate or national interests.” I understand. If I was in their shoes, I’d do the same to ensure that the EU gravy train continues distribute taxpayer funding to its’ favoured NGOs, to further the EU’s political aims and objectives.
In response to Zardoz's comment of Nov. 28, 9:02 P.M., I read the article referred to in the comment and then went and found the report referenced in both the comment and the article. I've just read through the report quickly. The only reference to AI in it that I can find is this sentence on page 4 of the report: "NGOs such as Amnesty International, Human Rights
Watch, FIDH (France), and International Commission of
Jurists (Geneva), as well as networks such as EMHRN, also
exert significant political influence in the conflicts in Sri
Lanka, Colombia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other regions."
There's no other mention in the report (which can be found at http://www.ngo-monitor.org/data/images/File/NGO_M… about Amnesty International. Maybe I missed it, but I don't see anything in this report about EU funding of AI.
In response to Zardoz's comment of Nov. 28, 9:02 P.M., I read the article referred to in the comment and then went and found the report referenced in both the comment and the article. I've just read through the report quickly. The only reference to AI in it that I can find is this sentence on page 4 of the report: "NGOs such as Amnesty International, Human Rights
Watch, FIDH (France), and International Commission of
Jurists (Geneva), as well as networks such as EMHRN, also
exert significant political influence in the conflicts in Sri
Lanka, Colombia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other regions."
There's no other mention in the report (which can be found at http://www.ngo-monitor.org/data/images/File/NGO_M… about Amnesty International. Maybe I missed it, but I don't see anything in this report about EU funding of AI.
In response to Zardoz's comment of Nov. 28, 9:02 P.M., I read the article referred to in the comment and then went and found the report referenced in both the comment and the article. I've just read through the report quickly. The only reference to AI in it that I can find is this sentence on page 4 of the report: "NGOs such as Amnesty International, Human Rights
Watch, FIDH (France), and International Commission of
Jurists (Geneva), as well as networks such as EMHRN, also
exert significant political influence in the conflicts in Sri
Lanka, Colombia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other regions."
There's no other mention in the report (which can be found at http://www.ngo-monitor.org/data/images/File/NGO_M… about Amnesty International. Maybe I missed it, but I don't see anything in this report about EU funding of AI.
In response to Zardoz’s comment of Nov. 28, 9:02 P.M., I read the article referred to in the comment and then went and found the report referenced in both the comment and the article. I’ve just read through the report quickly. The only reference to AI in it that I can find is this sentence on page 4 of the report: “NGOs such as Amnesty International, Human Rights
Watch, FIDH (France), and International Commission of
Jurists (Geneva), as well as networks such as EMHRN, also
exert significant political influence in the conflicts in Sri
Lanka, Colombia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other regions.”
There’s no other mention in the report (which can be found at http://www.ngo-monitor.org/data/images/File/NGO_Monitor_EU_Funding_Europes_Hidden_Hand.pdf) about Amnesty International. Maybe I missed it, but I don’t see anything in this report about EU funding of AI.
First good news from commonwealth countries, sri lanka should learn, it can't hide the crime against Humanity
Commonwealth vetoes Sri Lanka bid to hold 2011 gathering http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/29/commo…
First good news from commonwealth countries, sri lanka should learn, it can't hide the crime against Humanity
Commonwealth vetoes Sri Lanka bid to hold 2011 gathering http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/29/commo…
First good news from commonwealth countries, sri lanka should learn, it can't hide the crime against Humanity
Commonwealth vetoes Sri Lanka bid to hold 2011 gathering http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/29/commo…
Systematic extra-judicial abductions and disappearances of Tamil youth, who survived the genocidal war in Vanni and interned in the camps is a regular feature since May, ridiculing the widely trumpeted concern of the International Community and media for Tamil youth under LTTE control before May, said a humanitarian worker in Vavuniyaa.
In July this year, UK based Coalition to Stop the Use of Child Soldiers, in a report accused Sri Lanka Army and paramilitary groups for the abductions aimed at 'recruitment'.
SLA's involvement in systematic elimination, ransom, forced labour and sexual abuse of the abducted Tamil youth is widely alleged by a number of humanitarian workers and organisations.
Last week, humanitarian workers, who have authentic evidences for crimes such as rape committed by the SLA on Tamil youth including minors in the camps, challenged the IC whether it can prove its credentials by taking action if evidences are provided to it.
Several Tamil boys and girls including teenagers interned in the camps are called by name through announcing system by the Sri Lanka Army intelligence officers and are taken to unknown destinations, reports reaching from Vavuniyaa camps said. At least 10 young men and boys were thus 'abducted' on 21 November and around 30 youth, including girls, were taken on 27 November from Zone-0 IDP internment camp in Cheddiku'lam alone last week. They were taken in SLA vehicles and their family members lost all contacts with them since then
First good news from commonwealth countries, sri lanka should learn, it can’t hide the crime against Humanity
Commonwealth vetoes Sri Lanka bid to hold 2011 gathering
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/29/commonwealth-vetoes-sri-lanka-bid
Highly militarized Jaffna has been an open prison for more many years with numerous army checkpoints and everyone have a great difficulty of getting an exit permit
Zardoz / Mango
Your new name is unusual.
The meaning, please 🙂
Thank you
Systematic extra-judicial abductions and disappearances of Tamil youth, who survived the genocidal war in Vanni and interned in the camps is a regular feature since May, ridiculing the widely trumpeted concern of the International Community and media for Tamil youth under LTTE control before May, said a humanitarian worker in Vavuniyaa.
In July this year, UK based Coalition to Stop the Use of Child Soldiers, in a report accused Sri Lanka Army and paramilitary groups for the abductions aimed at ‘recruitment’.
SLA’s involvement in systematic elimination, ransom, forced labour and sexual abuse of the abducted Tamil youth is widely alleged by a number of humanitarian workers and organisations.
Last week, humanitarian workers, who have authentic evidences for crimes such as rape committed by the SLA on Tamil youth including minors in the camps, challenged the IC whether it can prove its credentials by taking action if evidences are provided to it.
Several Tamil boys and girls including teenagers interned in the camps are called by name through announcing system by the Sri Lanka Army intelligence officers and are taken to unknown destinations, reports reaching from Vavuniyaa camps said. At least 10 young men and boys were thus ‘abducted’ on 21 November and around 30 youth, including girls, were taken on 27 November from Zone-0 IDP internment camp in Cheddiku’lam alone last week. They were taken in SLA vehicles and their family members lost all contacts with them since then
Highly militarized Jaffna has been an open prison for more many years with numerous army checkpoints and everyone have a great difficulty of getting an exit permit
A statement today by the Sri Lankan Minister of Resettlement and Disaster Relief Services (available at http://www.news.lk/index.php?option=com_content&a… says that the displaced civilians will be able to leave the camps as of tomorrow without "any conditions being imposed." That's very welcome news; I hope it proves to be true tomorrow.
A statement today by the Sri Lankan Minister of Resettlement and Disaster Relief Services (available at http://www.news.lk/index.php?option=com_content&a… says that the displaced civilians will be able to leave the camps as of tomorrow without "any conditions being imposed." That's very welcome news; I hope it proves to be true tomorrow.
A statement today by the Sri Lankan Minister of Resettlement and Disaster Relief Services (available at http://www.news.lk/index.php?option=com_content&a… says that the displaced civilians will be able to leave the camps as of tomorrow without "any conditions being imposed." That's very welcome news; I hope it proves to be true tomorrow.
Zardoz / Mango
Your new name is unusual.
The meaning, please 🙂
Thank you
Fantastic !!!
Finally the Freedom !!!
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Vannakam Mawatham,
It's just name of Sean Connery's character in his most bizzare and weird film. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/
Excellent news about the revised conditions for the IDPs. I'd like to see reports from their original homes showing us what kind of life they now have, which INGOs are helping with re-construction etc, etc.
The whole Commonwealth confab is a distraction and SL has saved itself millions by not having it awarded for 2011. But for sheer hypocrisy, again, the UK really has no peers. Note that it is the LTTE diaspora vote-dependant UK Labour govt which is now at the forefront of 'punishing' Sri Lanka.
This would have been my press release.
Government will oppose Britain hosting talks
Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:42am GMT
COLOMBO (Reuters) – Sri Lanka will oppose Britain hosting the next Commonwealth summit because of concerns over its conduct of the war against Taliban fighters and its treatment of refugees, a government source said on Friday.
Leaders of the group of 53 nations, mainly former British colonies, meet in Trinidad and Tobago from Friday and one of the issues to be discussed is who will host the next summit in 2011. Britain is one of a number of countries bidding to host the next summit.
President Rajapakse’s opposition to Britain getting the honour could cause friction at the meeting.
"The President has real concerns about Britain’s bid. We simply cannot be in a position where Britain — whose actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have had a huge impact on civilians, leading to thousands of displaced people without proper humanitarian access — is seen to be rewarded for its actions," a Sri Lankan government source said.
"The President will talk to other leaders about this, but is clear this won't wash," the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Sri Lanka criticised the conduct of the continuing war in Afghanistan and remains concerned about the situation of about 200,000 displaced people in the south and south west Afghanistan.
Sri Lanka wants the next summit host to reflect the full range of Commonwealth values which include promoting democracy and respect for human rights and the rule of law, the Sri Lankan source said.
Vannakam Mawatham,
It's just name of Sean Connery's character in his most bizzare and weird film. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/
Excellent news about the revised conditions for the IDPs. I'd like to see reports from their original homes showing us what kind of life they now have, which INGOs are helping with re-construction etc, etc.
The whole Commonwealth confab is a distraction and SL has saved itself millions by not having it awarded for 2011. But for sheer hypocrisy, again, the UK really has no peers. Note that it is the LTTE diaspora vote-dependant UK Labour govt which is now at the forefront of 'punishing' Sri Lanka.
This would have been my press release.
Government will oppose Britain hosting talks
Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:42am GMT
COLOMBO (Reuters) – Sri Lanka will oppose Britain hosting the next Commonwealth summit because of concerns over its conduct of the war against Taliban fighters and its treatment of refugees, a government source said on Friday.
Leaders of the group of 53 nations, mainly former British colonies, meet in Trinidad and Tobago from Friday and one of the issues to be discussed is who will host the next summit in 2011. Britain is one of a number of countries bidding to host the next summit.
President Rajapakse’s opposition to Britain getting the honour could cause friction at the meeting.
"The President has real concerns about Britain’s bid. We simply cannot be in a position where Britain — whose actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have had a huge impact on civilians, leading to thousands of displaced people without proper humanitarian access — is seen to be rewarded for its actions," a Sri Lankan government source said.
"The President will talk to other leaders about this, but is clear this won't wash," the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Sri Lanka criticised the conduct of the continuing war in Afghanistan and remains concerned about the situation of about 200,000 displaced people in the south and south west Afghanistan.
Sri Lanka wants the next summit host to reflect the full range of Commonwealth values which include promoting democracy and respect for human rights and the rule of law, the Sri Lankan source said.
Vannakam Mawatham,
It's just name of Sean Connery's character in his most bizzare and weird film. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/
Excellent news about the revised conditions for the IDPs. I'd like to see reports from their original homes showing us what kind of life they now have, which INGOs are helping with re-construction etc, etc.
The whole Commonwealth confab is a distraction and SL has saved itself millions by not having it awarded for 2011. But for sheer hypocrisy, again, the UK really has no peers. Note that it is the LTTE diaspora vote-dependant UK Labour govt which is now at the forefront of 'punishing' Sri Lanka.
This would have been my press release.
Government will oppose Britain hosting talks
Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:42am GMT
COLOMBO (Reuters) – Sri Lanka will oppose Britain hosting the next Commonwealth summit because of concerns over its conduct of the war against Taliban fighters and its treatment of refugees, a government source said on Friday.
Leaders of the group of 53 nations, mainly former British colonies, meet in Trinidad and Tobago from Friday and one of the issues to be discussed is who will host the next summit in 2011. Britain is one of a number of countries bidding to host the next summit.
President Rajapakse’s opposition to Britain getting the honour could cause friction at the meeting.
"The President has real concerns about Britain’s bid. We simply cannot be in a position where Britain — whose actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have had a huge impact on civilians, leading to thousands of displaced people without proper humanitarian access — is seen to be rewarded for its actions," a Sri Lankan government source said.
"The President will talk to other leaders about this, but is clear this won't wash," the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Sri Lanka criticised the conduct of the continuing war in Afghanistan and remains concerned about the situation of about 200,000 displaced people in the south and south west Afghanistan.
Sri Lanka wants the next summit host to reflect the full range of Commonwealth values which include promoting democracy and respect for human rights and the rule of law, the Sri Lankan source said.
A statement today by the Sri Lankan Minister of Resettlement and Disaster Relief Services (available at http://www.news.lk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12588&Itemid=44) says that the displaced civilians will be able to leave the camps as of tomorrow without “any conditions being imposed.” That’s very welcome news; I hope it proves to be true tomorrow.
Fantastic !!!
Finally the Freedom !!!
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Vannakam Mawatham,
It's the name of Sean Connery's character in his most bizzare and weird film 🙂 . http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/
Excellent news about the revised conditions for the IDPs. I’d like to see reports from their original homes showing us what kind of life they now have, which INGOs are helping with re-construction etc, etc.
The whole Commonwealth confab is a distraction and SL has saved itself millions by not having it awarded for 2011. But for sheer hypocrisy, again, the UK really has no peers. Note that it is the LTTE diaspora vote-dependant UK Labour govt which is now at the forefront of 'punishing' Sri Lanka.
This would have been my press release.
Government will oppose Britain hosting talks
Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:42am GMT
COLOMBO (Reuters) – Sri Lanka will oppose Britain hosting the next Commonwealth summit because of concerns over its conduct of the war against Taliban fighters and its treatment of refugees, a government source said on Friday.
Leaders of the group of 53 nations, mainly former British colonies, meet in Trinidad and Tobago from Friday and one of the issues to be discussed is who will host the next summit in 2011. Britain is one of a number of countries bidding to host the next summit.
President Rajapakse’s opposition to Britain getting the honour could cause friction at the meeting.
"The President has real concerns about Britain’s bid. We simply cannot be in a position where Britain — whose actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have had a huge impact on civilians, leading to thousands of displaced people without proper humanitarian access — is seen to be rewarded for its actions," a Sri Lankan government source said.
"The President will talk to other leaders about this, but is clear this won't wash," the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Sri Lanka criticised the conduct of the continuing war in Afghanistan and remains concerned about the situation of about 200,000 displaced people in the south and south west Afghanistan.
Sri Lanka wants the next summit host to reflect the full range of Commonwealth values which include promoting democracy and respect for human rights and the rule of law, the Sri Lankan source said.
The original press release is here: http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5AQ00I200911…
Mawatham. What news from the overseas LTTE supporters? From what I hear, the more intelligent ones are slowly starting to realise that Eelam is never going to (be allowed to) happen and they're starting to talk to the SL govt.
Vannakam Mawatham,
It's the name of Sean Connery's character in his most bizzare and weird film 🙂 . http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/
Excellent news about the revised conditions for the IDPs. I’d like to see reports from their original homes showing us what kind of life they now have, which INGOs are helping with re-construction etc, etc.
The whole Commonwealth confab is a distraction and SL has saved itself millions by not having it awarded for 2011. But for sheer hypocrisy, again, the UK really has no peers. Note that it is the LTTE diaspora vote-dependant UK Labour govt which is now at the forefront of 'punishing' Sri Lanka.
This would have been my press release.
Government will oppose Britain hosting talks
Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:42am GMT
COLOMBO (Reuters) – Sri Lanka will oppose Britain hosting the next Commonwealth summit because of concerns over its conduct of the war against Taliban fighters and its treatment of refugees, a government source said on Friday.
Leaders of the group of 53 nations, mainly former British colonies, meet in Trinidad and Tobago from Friday and one of the issues to be discussed is who will host the next summit in 2011. Britain is one of a number of countries bidding to host the next summit.
President Rajapakse’s opposition to Britain getting the honour could cause friction at the meeting.
"The President has real concerns about Britain’s bid. We simply cannot be in a position where Britain — whose actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have had a huge impact on civilians, leading to thousands of displaced people without proper humanitarian access — is seen to be rewarded for its actions," a Sri Lankan government source said.
"The President will talk to other leaders about this, but is clear this won't wash," the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Sri Lanka criticised the conduct of the continuing war in Afghanistan and remains concerned about the situation of about 200,000 displaced people in the south and south west Afghanistan.
Sri Lanka wants the next summit host to reflect the full range of Commonwealth values which include promoting democracy and respect for human rights and the rule of law, the Sri Lankan source said.
The original press release is here: http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5AQ00I200911…
Mawatham. What news from the overseas LTTE supporters? From what I hear, the more intelligent ones are slowly starting to realise that Eelam is never going to (be allowed to) happen and they're starting to talk to the SL govt.
Vannakam Mawatham,
It's the name of Sean Connery's character in his most bizzare and weird film 🙂 . http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/
Excellent news about the revised conditions for the IDPs. I’d like to see reports from their original homes showing us what kind of life they now have, which INGOs are helping with re-construction etc, etc.
The whole Commonwealth confab is a distraction and SL has saved itself millions by not having it awarded for 2011. But for sheer hypocrisy, again, the UK really has no peers. Note that it is the LTTE diaspora vote-dependant UK Labour govt which is now at the forefront of 'punishing' Sri Lanka.
This would have been my press release.
Government will oppose Britain hosting talks
Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:42am GMT
COLOMBO (Reuters) – Sri Lanka will oppose Britain hosting the next Commonwealth summit because of concerns over its conduct of the war against Taliban fighters and its treatment of refugees, a government source said on Friday.
Leaders of the group of 53 nations, mainly former British colonies, meet in Trinidad and Tobago from Friday and one of the issues to be discussed is who will host the next summit in 2011. Britain is one of a number of countries bidding to host the next summit.
President Rajapakse’s opposition to Britain getting the honour could cause friction at the meeting.
"The President has real concerns about Britain’s bid. We simply cannot be in a position where Britain — whose actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have had a huge impact on civilians, leading to thousands of displaced people without proper humanitarian access — is seen to be rewarded for its actions," a Sri Lankan government source said.
"The President will talk to other leaders about this, but is clear this won't wash," the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Sri Lanka criticised the conduct of the continuing war in Afghanistan and remains concerned about the situation of about 200,000 displaced people in the south and south west Afghanistan.
Sri Lanka wants the next summit host to reflect the full range of Commonwealth values which include promoting democracy and respect for human rights and the rule of law, the Sri Lankan source said.
The original press release is here: http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5AQ00I200911…
Mawatham. What news from the overseas LTTE supporters? From what I hear, the more intelligent ones are slowly starting to realise that Eelam is never going to (be allowed to) happen and they're starting to talk to the SL govt.
Vannakam Mawatham,
It’s just name of Sean Connery’s character in his most bizzare and weird film. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/
Excellent news about the revised conditions for the IDPs. I’d like to see reports from their original homes showing us what kind of life they now have, which INGOs are helping with re-construction etc, etc.
The whole Commonwealth confab is a distraction and SL has saved itself millions by not having it awarded for 2011. But for sheer hypocrisy, again, the UK really has no peers. Note that it is the LTTE diaspora vote-dependant UK Labour govt which is now at the forefront of ‘punishing’ Sri Lanka.
This would have been my press release.
Government will oppose Britain hosting talks
Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:42am GMT
COLOMBO (Reuters) – Sri Lanka will oppose Britain hosting the next Commonwealth summit because of concerns over its conduct of the war against Taliban fighters and its treatment of refugees, a government source said on Friday.
Leaders of the group of 53 nations, mainly former British colonies, meet in Trinidad and Tobago from Friday and one of the issues to be discussed is who will host the next summit in 2011. Britain is one of a number of countries bidding to host the next summit.
President Rajapakse’s opposition to Britain getting the honour could cause friction at the meeting.
“The President has real concerns about Britain’s bid. We simply cannot be in a position where Britain — whose actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have had a huge impact on civilians, leading to thousands of displaced people without proper humanitarian access — is seen to be rewarded for its actions,” a Sri Lankan government source said.
“The President will talk to other leaders about this, but is clear this won’t wash,” the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Sri Lanka criticised the conduct of the continuing war in Afghanistan and remains concerned about the situation of about 200,000 displaced people in the south and south west Afghanistan.
Sri Lanka wants the next summit host to reflect the full range of Commonwealth values which include promoting democracy and respect for human rights and the rule of law, the Sri Lankan source said.
Ayubowan Zardoz
My news is not very hopeful, sorry 🙁
'Resettled' by forced labour, without food or freedom to move
The few thousands who have been resettled in selected divisions of Mullaiththeevu and Ki'linochchi districts, are reportedly affected by the lack of food supply, news reports reaching Vavuniyaa said. The 'resettled' are actually kept in schools in those areas and are extracted of forced labour to clear the locations of resettlement. Their freedom of movement is restricted. The whole operation doesn't look like resettlement of 'citizens' but of slaves.
6,037 IDPs were 'resettled' in Thu'nukkaay division of Mullaiththevu district up to 18 November and 2,821 were resettled up to 17 November in Jeyapuram, Akkaraayanku'lam, Muzhangkaavil and Naaachchikkudaa of the Ki'linochchi district. Some more are now being 'resettled' in Valaippaadu and Kiraangchi villages of Ki'linochchi district. These areas are located west of A-9 highway and are not part of the core regions of Mullaiththeevu and Ki'linochchi districts.
Even though dry rations are supplied by the World Food Program through government operated co-operative societies, these are inadequate, and the concerned people have been deprived of wholesome food for more than a year now.
The 'resettled' live under severe restrictions for travel and free movement.
Vannakam Mawatham,
It’s the name of Sean Connery’s character in his most bizzare and weird film 🙂 . http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/
Excellent news about the revised conditions for the IDPs. I’d like to see reports from their original homes showing us what kind of life they now have, which INGOs are helping with re-construction etc, etc.
The whole Commonwealth confab is a distraction and SL has saved itself millions by not having it awarded for 2011. But for sheer hypocrisy, again, the UK really has no peers. Note that it is the LTTE diaspora vote-dependant UK Labour govt which is now at the forefront of ‘punishing’ Sri Lanka.
This would have been my press release.
Government will oppose Britain hosting talks
Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:42am GMT
COLOMBO (Reuters) – Sri Lanka will oppose Britain hosting the next Commonwealth summit because of concerns over its conduct of the war against Taliban fighters and its treatment of refugees, a government source said on Friday.
Leaders of the group of 53 nations, mainly former British colonies, meet in Trinidad and Tobago from Friday and one of the issues to be discussed is who will host the next summit in 2011. Britain is one of a number of countries bidding to host the next summit.
President Rajapakse’s opposition to Britain getting the honour could cause friction at the meeting.
“The President has real concerns about Britain’s bid. We simply cannot be in a position where Britain — whose actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have had a huge impact on civilians, leading to thousands of displaced people without proper humanitarian access — is seen to be rewarded for its actions,” a Sri Lankan government source said.
“The President will talk to other leaders about this, but is clear this won’t wash,” the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Sri Lanka criticised the conduct of the continuing war in Afghanistan and remains concerned about the situation of about 200,000 displaced people in the south and south west Afghanistan.
Sri Lanka wants the next summit host to reflect the full range of Commonwealth values which include promoting democracy and respect for human rights and the rule of law, the Sri Lankan source said.
The original press release is here:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5AQ00I20091127
Mawatham. What news from the overseas LTTE supporters? From what I hear, the more intelligent ones are slowly starting to realise that Eelam is never going to (be allowed to) happen and they’re starting to talk to the SL govt.
Mawatha, I know your news will never be hopeful, you guys are still trying to get terms with the loss of the killers. It would have been really hopeful and fascinating if the news was about a bus blast with 100s of civillians.
Btw, you forgot to mention the source of the news you pasted, it is the tamilnet.com, which is the holy bible? You guys never want reconciliation, never want any Sri Lankan, including the Tamils to live in peaece in SL. It they were in camps, then it will be about keeping in the camps, if released, it will be about wrongdoings in releasing them.
Get a life, atleast thank the government for providing you with free education, free medical facilities and everything even if inside a LTTE controlled area, and let the people there live in harmony.
Ayubowan Zardoz
My news is not very hopeful, sorry 🙁
‘Resettled’ by forced labour, without food or freedom to move
The few thousands who have been resettled in selected divisions of Mullaiththeevu and Ki’linochchi districts, are reportedly affected by the lack of food supply, news reports reaching Vavuniyaa said. The ‘resettled’ are actually kept in schools in those areas and are extracted of forced labour to clear the locations of resettlement. Their freedom of movement is restricted. The whole operation doesn’t look like resettlement of ‘citizens’ but of slaves.
6,037 IDPs were ‘resettled’ in Thu’nukkaay division of Mullaiththevu district up to 18 November and 2,821 were resettled up to 17 November in Jeyapuram, Akkaraayanku’lam, Muzhangkaavil and Naaachchikkudaa of the Ki’linochchi district. Some more are now being ‘resettled’ in Valaippaadu and Kiraangchi villages of Ki’linochchi district. These areas are located west of A-9 highway and are not part of the core regions of Mullaiththeevu and Ki’linochchi districts.
Even though dry rations are supplied by the World Food Program through government operated co-operative societies, these are inadequate, and the concerned people have been deprived of wholesome food for more than a year now.
The ‘resettled’ live under severe restrictions for travel and free movement.
We saw this, we have to believe it
Balavarnam eyewitness 'fear for life' http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/11/0…
Mawatha, I know your news will never be hopeful, you guys are still trying to get terms with the loss of the killers. It would have been really hopeful and fascinating if the news was about a bus blast with 100s of civillians.
Btw, you forgot to mention the source of the news you pasted, it is the tamilnet.com, which is the holy bible? You guys never want reconciliation, never want any Sri Lankan, including the Tamils to live in peaece in SL. It they were in camps, then it will be about keeping in the camps, if released, it will be about wrongdoings in releasing them.
Get a life, atleast thank the government for providing you with free education, free medical facilities and everything even if inside a LTTE controlled area, and let the people there live in harmony.
We saw this, we have to believe it
Balavarnam eyewitness 'fear for life' http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/11/0…
We saw this, we have to believe it
Balavarnam eyewitness 'fear for life' http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/11/0…
We saw this, we have to believe it
Balavarnam eyewitness ‘fear for life’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/11/091130_balavarnam_witness.shtml
It's good to hear that the civilians are leaving the camps today. Unfortunately, the BBC today is reporting that the military has told the civilians they have to return to the camps within 15 days (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8387537.stm…. So the camps are only "temporarily unlocked"?
It's good to hear that the civilians are leaving the camps today. Unfortunately, the BBC today is reporting that the military has told the civilians they have to return to the camps within 15 days (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8387537.stm…. So the camps are only "temporarily unlocked"?
It's good to hear that the civilians are leaving the camps today. Unfortunately, the BBC today is reporting that the military has told the civilians they have to return to the camps within 15 days (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8387537.stm…. So the camps are only "temporarily unlocked"?
It’s good to hear that the civilians are leaving the camps today. Unfortunately, the BBC today is reporting that the military has told the civilians they have to return to the camps within 15 days (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8387537.stm). So the camps are only “temporarily unlocked”?
Jim, it is temporary for a single visit. It doesn't state that they cannot go out again on another 15 day trip. the terms like “temporarily unlocked” seems to undermine any effort taken by the government. The government has to keep track of where they are until they are resettled or voluntarily gone to stay with relatives.
Did you see what the government has provided and done to the already resetled people?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8388166.stm
'They said they had been given tin sheets and tarpaulin to put up temporary huts.
They said the government had been trying to help them continue with their agricultural activities and setting up income-generating projects.
The government has provided them with 5,000 rupees ($44) in cash and 20,000 rupees ($175) in the bank. They have been promised another instalment of 25,000 rupees ($219).
They were given kitchen utensils to start cooking and six months' worth of rations.
They were also provided with tools to de-weed the land because it had been abandoned and become overgrown with trees and undergrowth.'
Any appreciation of a govenrment taking care of their citizens?
Jim, it is temporary for a single visit. It doesn't state that they cannot go out again on another 15 day trip. the terms like “temporarily unlocked” seems to undermine any effort taken by the government. The government has to keep track of where they are until they are resettled or voluntarily gone to stay with relatives.
Did you see what the government has provided and done to the already resetled people?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8388166.stm
'They said they had been given tin sheets and tarpaulin to put up temporary huts.
They said the government had been trying to help them continue with their agricultural activities and setting up income-generating projects.
The government has provided them with 5,000 rupees ($44) in cash and 20,000 rupees ($175) in the bank. They have been promised another instalment of 25,000 rupees ($219).
They were given kitchen utensils to start cooking and six months' worth of rations.
They were also provided with tools to de-weed the land because it had been abandoned and become overgrown with trees and undergrowth.'
Any appreciation of a govenrment taking care of their citizens?
Jim, it is temporary for a single visit. It doesn't state that they cannot go out again on another 15 day trip. the terms like “temporarily unlocked” seems to undermine any effort taken by the government. The government has to keep track of where they are until they are resettled or voluntarily gone to stay with relatives.
Did you see what the government has provided and done to the already resetled people?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8388166.stm
'They said they had been given tin sheets and tarpaulin to put up temporary huts.
They said the government had been trying to help them continue with their agricultural activities and setting up income-generating projects.
The government has provided them with 5,000 rupees ($44) in cash and 20,000 rupees ($175) in the bank. They have been promised another instalment of 25,000 rupees ($219).
They were given kitchen utensils to start cooking and six months' worth of rations.
They were also provided with tools to de-weed the land because it had been abandoned and become overgrown with trees and undergrowth.'
Any appreciation of a govenrment taking care of their citizens?
Bharatha,
Surely you don't expect the self-appointed, unelected, posturing 'Human Rights' overlords at AI to be pleased about this do you?
They've not shown any appreciation for what has already been done by a very poor country, which finally crushed a violent, racist secessionist movement.
At the very least, I'd expect an apology from AI along these lines:
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people for its' misguided anti-SL cricket team 'Play by the Rules' campaign.
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people for its calls for a ceasefire to halt the offensive against the LTTE, when all evidence proved that a ceasefire would only assist the LTTE to continue its' murderous existence.
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people, especially those Tamil citizens who were unable to leave 'Eelam', that it failed to support the SL govt in its successful attempt to crush the LTTE.
Hell will freeze over before AI admit to this one salient fact. It's claims to be defenders of HR are hollow because it did not push for action against the now-defunct LTTE with the same vigour with which it now chases the elected govt of SL.
p.s. AI's Head Irene Khan's been crowned Paramount Chief of Bombali District in Sierra Leone. How nice. http://tinyurl.com/yzd5z32
It was the killing power of the British Army, which in 2000 brought peace to that unfortunate country, by crushing the RUF 'rebels'. I've yet to read of any appreciation of the Army's action by Khan or her drones. She probably imagines that it was 'peace-building' team of Hare Krishnas who made it all happen. 🙂
Bharatha,
Surely you don't expect the self-appointed, unelected, posturing 'Human Rights' overlords at AI to be pleased about this do you?
They've not shown any appreciation for what has already been done by a very poor country, which finally crushed a violent, racist secessionist movement.
At the very least, I'd expect an apology from AI along these lines:
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people for its' misguided anti-SL cricket team 'Play by the Rules' campaign.
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people for its calls for a ceasefire to halt the offensive against the LTTE, when all evidence proved that a ceasefire would only assist the LTTE to continue its' murderous existence.
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people, especially those Tamil citizens who were unable to leave 'Eelam', that it failed to support the SL govt in its successful attempt to crush the LTTE.
Hell will freeze over before AI admit to this one salient fact. It's claims to be defenders of HR are hollow because it did not push for action against the now-defunct LTTE with the same vigour with which it now chases the elected govt of SL.
p.s. AI's Head Irene Khan's been crowned Paramount Chief of Bombali District in Sierra Leone. How nice. http://tinyurl.com/yzd5z32
It was the killing power of the British Army, which in 2000 brought peace to that unfortunate country, by crushing the RUF 'rebels'. I've yet to read of any appreciation of the Army's action by Khan or her drones. She probably imagines that it was 'peace-building' team of Hare Krishnas who made it all happen. 🙂
Bharatha,
Surely you don't expect the self-appointed, unelected, posturing 'Human Rights' overlords at AI to be pleased about this do you?
They've not shown any appreciation for what has already been done by a very poor country, which finally crushed a violent, racist secessionist movement.
At the very least, I'd expect an apology from AI along these lines:
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people for its' misguided anti-SL cricket team 'Play by the Rules' campaign.
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people for its calls for a ceasefire to halt the offensive against the LTTE, when all evidence proved that a ceasefire would only assist the LTTE to continue its' murderous existence.
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people, especially those Tamil citizens who were unable to leave 'Eelam', that it failed to support the SL govt in its successful attempt to crush the LTTE.
Hell will freeze over before AI admit to this one salient fact. It's claims to be defenders of HR are hollow because it did not push for action against the now-defunct LTTE with the same vigour with which it now chases the elected govt of SL.
p.s. AI's Head Irene Khan's been crowned Paramount Chief of Bombali District in Sierra Leone. How nice. http://tinyurl.com/yzd5z32
It was the killing power of the British Army, which in 2000 brought peace to that unfortunate country, by crushing the RUF 'rebels'. I've yet to read of any appreciation of the Army's action by Khan or her drones. She probably imagines that it was 'peace-building' team of Hare Krishnas who made it all happen. 🙂
Jim, it is temporary for a single visit. It doesn’t state that they cannot go out again on another 15 day trip. the terms like “temporarily unlocked” seems to undermine any effort taken by the government. The government has to keep track of where they are until they are resettled or voluntarily gone to stay with relatives.
Did you see what the government has provided and done to the already resetled people?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8388166.stm
‘They said they had been given tin sheets and tarpaulin to put up temporary huts.
They said the government had been trying to help them continue with their agricultural activities and setting up income-generating projects.
The government has provided them with 5,000 rupees ($44) in cash and 20,000 rupees ($175) in the bank. They have been promised another instalment of 25,000 rupees ($219).
They were given kitchen utensils to start cooking and six months’ worth of rations.
They were also provided with tools to de-weed the land because it had been abandoned and become overgrown with trees and undergrowth.’
Any appreciation of a govenrment taking care of their citizens?
In response to Bharatha's comment above, is there a public statement by the Sri Lankan government explaining the 15-day restriction? How do you know that the 15-day period just applies to a single visit and that the civilians will be able to leave again once they return to the camps? I can understand that the government needs to know who's staying in the camps and who's leaving for good. I can also see why the government would want to be able to contact the civilians (so it needs to know where they decide to move to now), to let them know once their home villages have been safely de-mined and then find out whether they've decided to move back or not. But why do the civilians have to return to the camps they're being released from? I haven't seen anything on the few websites I've checked that explains this.
Bharatha,
Surely you don’t expect the self-appointed, unelected, posturing ‘Human Rights’ overlords at AI to be pleased about this do you?
They’ve not shown any appreciation for what has already been done by a very poor country, which finally crushed a violent, racist secessionist movement.
At the very least, I’d expect an apology from AI along these lines:
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people for its’ misguided anti-SL cricket team ‘Play by the Rules’ campaign.
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people for its calls for a ceasefire to halt the offensive against the LTTE, when all evidence proved that a ceasefire would only assist the LTTE to continue its’ murderous existence.
– AI apologises to the Sri Lankan people, especially those Tamil citizens who were unable to leave ‘Eelam’, that it failed to support the SL govt in its successful attempt to crush the LTTE.
Hell will freeze over before AI admit to this one salient fact. It’s claims to be defenders of HR are hollow because it did not push for action against the now-defunct LTTE with the same vigour with which it now chases the elected govt of SL.
p.s. AI’s Head Irene Khan’s been crowned Paramount Chief of Bombali District in Sierra Leone. How nice. http://tinyurl.com/yzd5z32
It was the killing power of the British Army, which in 2000 brought peace to that unfortunate country, by crushing the RUF ‘rebels’. I’ve yet to read of any appreciation of the Army’s action by Khan or her drones. She probably imagines that it was ‘peace-building’ team of Hare Krishnas who made it all happen. 🙂
In response to Bharatha’s comment above, is there a public statement by the Sri Lankan government explaining the 15-day restriction? How do you know that the 15-day period just applies to a single visit and that the civilians will be able to leave again once they return to the camps? I can understand that the government needs to know who’s staying in the camps and who’s leaving for good. I can also see why the government would want to be able to contact the civilians (so it needs to know where they decide to move to now), to let them know once their home villages have been safely de-mined and then find out whether they’ve decided to move back or not. But why do the civilians have to return to the camps they’re being released from? I haven’t seen anything on the few websites I’ve checked that explains this.
Divine !!!!!
Resilience marks Maveerar Day in Sydney
Thousands gathered on Saturday to commemorate Heroes Day 2009 in an outpouring of grief in Sydney. A series of artistic and visual tributes, including a spectacular centre piece display carrying the symbols of Tamil Eelam set behind commemorative tombstones, illuminated Parramatta Park amid an atmosphere of reflection and resolve as over 2000 members of the Diaspora paid tribute to the fallen soldiers of the liberation movement and reaffirmed their commitment to the establishment of Tamil Eelam. The sister of LTTE Political head B. Nadesan, along with family of Colonel Amuthap lit the flame of sacrifice to mark the event, which featured songs, poetry and a series of provocative dramas portraying the horrors of Mullivaiykal and the sacrifices made by the fallen soldiers throughout the struggle.
Organized by the Tamil Coordinating Committee (TCC), the event began at 6:30 with a minutes silence before an hour long anjali commenced as members of the public offered flowers and prayer to the fighters who have laid down their lives for the pursuit of freedom.
Tamil author and academic Murugar Gunasingham called upon global powers to recognize their complicity in the carnage and immense civilian casualties that took place during the final phases of the military onslaught, citing Pakistan, China, India and Iran as collaborators who "hastened the mechanisms of genocide upon the entire Tamil nation".
Bringing the Tamil liberation struggle into historical context, Gunasingham cited the redemption of Nelson Mandela in the eyes of the world from political antagonist to national hero, suggesting a similar reprieve awaited LTTE leader as the continued suffering of thousands of Tamil civilians detained by Sri Lankan armed forces becomes apparent.
Citing the formation of Israel and the role of the global Jewish Diaspora as the “building blocks of the nation’s success”, he reaffirmed the need for continued vigilance and commitment by the global Tamil community in the face of immense adversity.
An emotional 4 part drama portraying the level of sacrifice and bravery displayed by the liberation fighters amid the suffering and carnage was punctuated by large scale choreography and outdoor lighting that transformed the park into a living prop used to depict the Vanni landscape during the latter stages of the conflict.
Divine !!!!!
Resilience marks Maveerar Day in Sydney
Thousands gathered on Saturday to commemorate Heroes Day 2009 in an outpouring of grief in Sydney. A series of artistic and visual tributes, including a spectacular centre piece display carrying the symbols of Tamil Eelam set behind commemorative tombstones, illuminated Parramatta Park amid an atmosphere of reflection and resolve as over 2000 members of the Diaspora paid tribute to the fallen soldiers of the liberation movement and reaffirmed their commitment to the establishment of Tamil Eelam. The sister of LTTE Political head B. Nadesan, along with family of Colonel Amuthap lit the flame of sacrifice to mark the event, which featured songs, poetry and a series of provocative dramas portraying the horrors of Mullivaiykal and the sacrifices made by the fallen soldiers throughout the struggle.
Organized by the Tamil Coordinating Committee (TCC), the event began at 6:30 with a minutes silence before an hour long anjali commenced as members of the public offered flowers and prayer to the fighters who have laid down their lives for the pursuit of freedom.
Tamil author and academic Murugar Gunasingham called upon global powers to recognize their complicity in the carnage and immense civilian casualties that took place during the final phases of the military onslaught, citing Pakistan, China, India and Iran as collaborators who “hastened the mechanisms of genocide upon the entire Tamil nation”.
Bringing the Tamil liberation struggle into historical context, Gunasingham cited the redemption of Nelson Mandela in the eyes of the world from political antagonist to national hero, suggesting a similar reprieve awaited LTTE leader as the continued suffering of thousands of Tamil civilians detained by Sri Lankan armed forces becomes apparent.
Citing the formation of Israel and the role of the global Jewish Diaspora as the “building blocks of the nation’s success”, he reaffirmed the need for continued vigilance and commitment by the global Tamil community in the face of immense adversity.
An emotional 4 part drama portraying the level of sacrifice and bravery displayed by the liberation fighters amid the suffering and carnage was punctuated by large scale choreography and outdoor lighting that transformed the park into a living prop used to depict the Vanni landscape during the latter stages of the conflict.
how do we see if not no one allowed to go & see http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
how do we see if not no one allowed to go & see http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
how do we see if not no one allowed to go & see http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
how do we see if not no one allowed to go & see
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=30740
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Christiane Amanpour of CNN interviews U.N. Under-Secretary General John Holmes and others and discusses the IDPs who'd been locked in the camps – http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/12/14/sri-l…
Christiane Amanpour of CNN interviews U.N. Under-Secretary General John Holmes and others and discusses the IDPs who'd been locked in the camps – http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/12/14/sri-l…
Christiane Amanpour of CNN interviews U.N. Under-Secretary General John Holmes and others and discusses the IDPs who'd been locked in the camps – http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/12/14/sri-l…
Christiane Amanpour of CNN interviews U.N. Under-Secretary General John Holmes and others and discusses the IDPs who’d been locked in the camps – http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/12/14/sri-lanka.human.rights/index.html?iref=allsearch
Hello to all !!
Had a bit of free time – so thought of getting involved in this blog post too 😀 !!
Guys – you really are disappointing me – including AI !
I have seen close to 25 blogs if I am correct and the only thing that differs from one blog to another is the heading and the content that immediately follow the headings. There in on, the same bunch of people would comment or slowly drift the subject to the same things that are been discussed in almost the same language. We also see that the cut and paste Rohan (Many other names before) is having a delightful time cutting and pasting though the blog says such activities will mean that the person would get banned…
What ever the topic is, it ends up in 3-4 people trying to win Eelam from AI and not the GOSL – 😀 LOL… They are basically pleading from the AI and Jim almighty to grant them Eelam – 😀 !!
I mean this is hilarious !
Jim MD – Has the GOSL angered you by any means ?? Has the LTTE been kind to you by any means ? I expect AI to be impartial and I don't see even a glimpse of from your posts. I mean common, GOSL has done nothing more than what the USA or the western governments have done to crush terrorism from this world than actually showing that it is possible.
Jim – Please tell me whether you (and AI) believe that Tamil people in Sri Lanka are mistreated….
If yes, be prepared to answer the questions about the Tamils who live luxurious lives in other parts of the country as well as being members of the Parliament.
Since I was involved with these activities of AI since recent, please elucidate me on what kind of action you took the day you got to know the assassination of one of our beloved leaders Hon. Lakshman Kadiragamar. I hope that your answer in this regard will not be " AI is not bound to take action against everything that's happening around and I don't see it as a necessity
Any news on Robert O Blake ? Any new statements he has made with regard to situation in SL ? Can we have a post on that and AI's response to such comment ???
T Numb !
I trust you missed out some parts of "not so Rhyming" Poem – I am no poet either, but let me try fill in.
So many of us owe so much to – The GOSL for getting rid of LTTE
So many who sacrificed their life – The Army and forces , Politicians, Civilians, Clergy
So many wanted to save our homeland – All Sri Lankans did wanted to save Sri Lanka.
so many wanted to save our generation – the Generation from 80's lost their youth to a bloody Terrorist menace
So many wanted to save our language – that is Singhala, Tamil and English
So many are not in this world on 27 – 27 ?? not they are gone forever – let's remember Lakshman K
So many of our mothers lost their children – Fathers lost them too immaterial of Ethnicity
So many of our children lost their parents – again immaterial of Ethnicity
So many of our sisters lost their husbands – Immaterial of Ethnicity
So many of our brothers lost their siblings – Immaterial of Ethnicity
So many of them lost their bread winners – There was no bread or even rice for some poor families
So many fathers lost their next of kin.! ?? King Kong who lost his Ding dong ? 😀 (see it rhymes 😀 )
So many of us are living in foreign countries safely – Only LTTE left to foreign countries
So many of us are living in these countries lavishly – High time we help the war battered friends in Sri Lanka ?
So many have given to those suffering people generously – what ? False promises ?? Bread would do..
So many have suffered so much to those immensely – today – No the suffering happened for 30 years
So many of us owe so much gratitude to all of them – yes the Sri lankan Government and forces for getting rid of Idiots
So many of our prayers with so much tears go to them. – the War heroes who saved Sri lanka from Mentally Challenged Fat Piribaharan !!!!!
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 16, 6:29 A.M., AI mentioned the assassination of Foreign Minister Kadirgamar in the Sri Lanka entry of our 2006 annual report. We did not issue a separate statement at the time of his killing. I decline to be drawn into a discussion of whether Tamils in general are mistreated in Sri Lanka. The focus of the blog entry above is on the displaced civilians, not the Tamil minority.
Hello to all !!
Had a bit of free time – so thought of getting involved in this blog post too 😀 !!
Guys – you really are disappointing me – including AI !
I have seen close to 25 blogs if I am correct and the only thing that differs from one blog to another is the heading and the content that immediately follow the headings. There in on, the same bunch of people would comment or slowly drift the subject to the same things that are been discussed in almost the same language. We also see that the cut and paste Rohan (Many other names before) is having a delightful time cutting and pasting though the blog says such activities will mean that the person would get banned…
What ever the topic is, it ends up in 3-4 people trying to win Eelam from AI and not the GOSL – 😀 LOL… They are basically pleading from the AI and Jim almighty to grant them Eelam – 😀 !!
I mean this is hilarious !
Jim MD – Has the GOSL angered you by any means ?? Has the LTTE been kind to you by any means ? I expect AI to be impartial and I don’t see even a glimpse of from your posts. I mean common, GOSL has done nothing more than what the USA or the western governments have done to crush terrorism from this world than actually showing that it is possible.
Jim – Please tell me whether you (and AI) believe that Tamil people in Sri Lanka are mistreated….
If yes, be prepared to answer the questions about the Tamils who live luxurious lives in other parts of the country as well as being members of the Parliament.
Since I was involved with these activities of AI since recent, please elucidate me on what kind of action you took the day you got to know the assassination of one of our beloved leaders Hon. Lakshman Kadiragamar. I hope that your answer in this regard will not be ” AI is not bound to take action against everything that’s happening around and I don’t see it as a necessity
Any news on Robert O Blake ? Any new statements he has made with regard to situation in SL ? Can we have a post on that and AI’s response to such comment ???
T Numb !
I trust you missed out some parts of “not so Rhyming” Poem – I am no poet either, but let me try fill in.
So many of us owe so much to – The GOSL for getting rid of LTTE
So many who sacrificed their life – The Army and forces , Politicians, Civilians, Clergy
So many wanted to save our homeland – All Sri Lankans did wanted to save Sri Lanka.
so many wanted to save our generation – the Generation from 80’s lost their youth to a bloody Terrorist menace
So many wanted to save our language – that is Singhala, Tamil and English
So many are not in this world on 27 – 27 ?? not they are gone forever – let’s remember Lakshman K
So many of our mothers lost their children – Fathers lost them too immaterial of Ethnicity
So many of our children lost their parents – again immaterial of Ethnicity
So many of our sisters lost their husbands – Immaterial of Ethnicity
So many of our brothers lost their siblings – Immaterial of Ethnicity
So many of them lost their bread winners – There was no bread or even rice for some poor families
So many fathers lost their next of kin.! ?? King Kong who lost his Ding dong ? 😀 (see it rhymes 😀 )
So many of us are living in foreign countries safely – Only LTTE left to foreign countries
So many of us are living in these countries lavishly – High time we help the war battered friends in Sri Lanka ?
So many have given to those suffering people generously – what ? False promises ?? Bread would do..
So many have suffered so much to those immensely – today – No the suffering happened for 30 years
So many of us owe so much gratitude to all of them – yes the Sri lankan Government and forces for getting rid of Idiots
So many of our prayers with so much tears go to them. – the War heroes who saved Sri lanka from Mentally Challenged Fat Piribaharan !!!!!
In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Dec. 16, 6:29 A.M., AI mentioned the assassination of Foreign Minister Kadirgamar in the Sri Lanka entry of our 2006 annual report. We did not issue a separate statement at the time of his killing. I decline to be drawn into a discussion of whether Tamils in general are mistreated in Sri Lanka. The focus of the blog entry above is on the displaced civilians, not the Tamil minority.
Jim,
With all due respect, you are talking about the mentioned Ethnic group !! If not, can we also start talking about the IDP's from past 15 years ?? The Singhala and Muslim ones who were chased away by the LTTE ?? can i please see the blog sites that mention anything about them ??
If it's so, let's talk about the displaced civilians – if not, you unfortunately will have to answer my question because, it is a huge risk for your status if you do not answer !! World will think you are biased 🙁 🙁 🙁
Also, annual report is not exactly where a great leader should belong ha ? why didn't you make a statement at the time of the killing of a World Renowned and respected figure as LK ?? You are making statements when lesser known people and labeled terrorists as Nadesan are killed ??
Jim – Seriously, What does AI stand for ???????
Jim,
With all due respect, you are talking about the mentioned Ethnic group !! If not, can we also start talking about the IDP’s from past 15 years ?? The Singhala and Muslim ones who were chased away by the LTTE ?? can i please see the blog sites that mention anything about them ??
If it’s so, let’s talk about the displaced civilians – if not, you unfortunately will have to answer my question because, it is a huge risk for your status if you do not answer !! World will think you are biased 🙁 🙁 🙁
Also, annual report is not exactly where a great leader should belong ha ? why didn’t you make a statement at the time of the killing of a World Renowned and respected figure as LK ?? You are making statements when lesser known people and labeled terrorists as Nadesan are killed ??
Jim – Seriously, What does AI stand for ???????
In response to Jim Pappa's comment above, my earlier response was pointing out that the blog entry and my subsequent comments were focused on whether the displaced civilians (who I agree are Tamil) would actually receive the freedom of movement they're entitled to. There are lots of other issues involving the Tamil minority in Sri Lanka, as well as other human rights issues in Sri Lanka affecting other parts of the population or the population in general. Some of those issues are covered in other blog posts. In my comments under this blog entry, I prefer to stay focused on the original topic raised by the blog entry.
I've obviously already made an exception to that practice by responding to the question of whether AI is biased. This isn't the first time that people who appear not to like what AI is saying on Sri Lanka respond by attacking AI's motives and integrity; no doubt, it won't be the last time either. I don't agree that AI is biased and would refer those interested to review our past statements and reports on the country, where you can see that we've criticized both sides. I don't agree that bias is proven based on a single statement by AI or by the lack of an AI statement at the time of any particular killing or other human rights abuse.
In response to Jim Pappa’s comment above, my earlier response was pointing out that the blog entry and my subsequent comments were focused on whether the displaced civilians (who I agree are Tamil) would actually receive the freedom of movement they’re entitled to. There are lots of other issues involving the Tamil minority in Sri Lanka, as well as other human rights issues in Sri Lanka affecting other parts of the population or the population in general. Some of those issues are covered in other blog posts. In my comments under this blog entry, I prefer to stay focused on the original topic raised by the blog entry.
I’ve obviously already made an exception to that practice by responding to the question of whether AI is biased. This isn’t the first time that people who appear not to like what AI is saying on Sri Lanka respond by attacking AI’s motives and integrity; no doubt, it won’t be the last time either. I don’t agree that AI is biased and would refer those interested to review our past statements and reports on the country, where you can see that we’ve criticized both sides. I don’t agree that bias is proven based on a single statement by AI or by the lack of an AI statement at the time of any particular killing or other human rights abuse.
Jim MD,
I totally agree with you on sticking to the topic and I would love to do it if the cut and paste dude's and the off topic dudes would stick to the topic.
Why I asked you about the other IDP's, who had been suffering in camps for more than 15 years is due to the fact that it was a direct result of LTTE chasing them out of their homelands. Now, if AI is only concentrating on 300,000 (now reduced to less than 100,000), I also wish to know the action you took against those who suffered for more than 15 years – I guess I have the right to know it and also to what extend you have voiced it as oppose to the recent IDP's. Why the recent set and not the previous lot ?? Don't try to slip away by saying that you intend to stick to the topic when you have gone off topic in several occasions when required – it's OK.
You don't agree that AI is biased, and I, definitely, by all means expect AI not to be biased – That is my right cause I trust that you will stand for me someday when my rights are violated – That someday is now – My rights are violated by some LTTE supporters or those with the same low mentality. They are trying to create unrest in my country where I will have a huge issue in to the future where I need to raise my Children in a peaceful environment. Help me out here !! You want to see more blood in SL ?? There is no bloodshed now !!
Jim MD,
I totally agree with you on sticking to the topic and I would love to do it if the cut and paste dude’s and the off topic dudes would stick to the topic.
Why I asked you about the other IDP’s, who had been suffering in camps for more than 15 years is due to the fact that it was a direct result of LTTE chasing them out of their homelands. Now, if AI is only concentrating on 300,000 (now reduced to less than 100,000), I also wish to know the action you took against those who suffered for more than 15 years – I guess I have the right to know it and also to what extend you have voiced it as oppose to the recent IDP’s. Why the recent set and not the previous lot ?? Don’t try to slip away by saying that you intend to stick to the topic when you have gone off topic in several occasions when required – it’s OK.
You don’t agree that AI is biased, and I, definitely, by all means expect AI not to be biased – That is my right cause I trust that you will stand for me someday when my rights are violated – That someday is now – My rights are violated by some LTTE supporters or those with the same low mentality. They are trying to create unrest in my country where I will have a huge issue in to the future where I need to raise my Children in a peaceful environment. Help me out here !! You want to see more blood in SL ?? There is no bloodshed now !!
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 17, 11:02 P.M., I'd suggest looking at the AI report issued in 2006 titled "Sri Lanka: Waiting to go home – the plight of the internally displaced." That report discusses the Muslims who had been evicted from the North by the LTTE. The report's available at http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka.
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 17, 11:02 P.M., I'd suggest looking at the AI report issued in 2006 titled "Sri Lanka: Waiting to go home – the plight of the internally displaced." That report discusses the Muslims who had been evicted from the North by the LTTE. The report's available at http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka.
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 17, 11:02 P.M., I'd suggest looking at the AI report issued in 2006 titled "Sri Lanka: Waiting to go home – the plight of the internally displaced." That report discusses the Muslims who had been evicted from the North by the LTTE. The report's available at http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka.
In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Dec. 17, 11:02 P.M., I’d suggest looking at the AI report issued in 2006 titled “Sri Lanka: Waiting to go home – the plight of the internally displaced.” That report discusses the Muslims who had been evicted from the North by the LTTE. The report’s available at http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka.
Jim Pappa
Why are around 100 000 IDPs are still in the concentration camps ?
And who can truly verify.. if they have freedom of movement or not ?
Jim Pappa
Why are around 100 000 IDPs are still in the concentration camps ?
And who can truly verify.. if they have freedom of movement or not ?
T Numb !
They are still in the camps because they are like you 😀 !!
Others !!
I have more good news – The GOSL opened the A9 road completely today and allowed free movement. As we all can see, as things settle down and lesser the Terrorist Threats, more and more freedom is enjoyed by all citizens.
So for those who believe in Seeing something before you believe, here is something to see !! (I surely hope that you guys are not Christians or Muslims or others who would believe in God, because you might want to see God before believing in our almighty)
Jim !!
I couldn't find the report. Specific URL would help !!
However, the Muslims were chased out in 1990 – why wait till 2006 to take action ?? You don't have to reply if you were not working at AI in 1990..
T Numb !
They are still in the camps because they are like you 😀 !!
Others !!
I have more good news – The GOSL opened the A9 road completely today and allowed free movement. As we all can see, as things settle down and lesser the Terrorist Threats, more and more freedom is enjoyed by all citizens.
So for those who believe in Seeing something before you believe, here is something to see !! (I surely hope that you guys are not Christians or Muslims or others who would believe in God, because you might want to see God before believing in our almighty)
Jim !!
I couldn’t find the report. Specific URL would help !!
However, the Muslims were chased out in 1990 – why wait till 2006 to take action ?? You don’t have to reply if you were not working at AI in 1990..
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 20, 11:19 P.M., the URL for our 2006 report is http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?id=ENGASA3…. If for some reason that link doesn't work, please go to http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka, then click on "Reports" in the upper right corner, then you should find a link to the 2006 report. As for how early AI might have mentioned the 1990 expulsion of Muslims from the north by the LTTE, I haven't gone back through our reports or press releases to determine that; I mentioned the 2006 report because I remembered, without having to do much research, that that expulsion was mentioned in that report. If I get the time, I may look further into the question as to how early AI mentioned it.
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 20, 11:19 P.M., the URL for our 2006 report is http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?id=ENGASA3…. If for some reason that link doesn't work, please go to http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka, then click on "Reports" in the upper right corner, then you should find a link to the 2006 report. As for how early AI might have mentioned the 1990 expulsion of Muslims from the north by the LTTE, I haven't gone back through our reports or press releases to determine that; I mentioned the 2006 report because I remembered, without having to do much research, that that expulsion was mentioned in that report. If I get the time, I may look further into the question as to how early AI mentioned it.
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 20, 11:19 P.M., the URL for our 2006 report is http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?id=ENGASA3…. If for some reason that link doesn't work, please go to http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka, then click on "Reports" in the upper right corner, then you should find a link to the 2006 report. As for how early AI might have mentioned the 1990 expulsion of Muslims from the north by the LTTE, I haven't gone back through our reports or press releases to determine that; I mentioned the 2006 report because I remembered, without having to do much research, that that expulsion was mentioned in that report. If I get the time, I may look further into the question as to how early AI mentioned it.
In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Dec. 20, 11:19 P.M., the URL for our 2006 report is http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?id=ENGASA370042006&lang=e. If for some reason that link doesn’t work, please go to http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka, then click on “Reports” in the upper right corner, then you should find a link to the 2006 report. As for how early AI might have mentioned the 1990 expulsion of Muslims from the north by the LTTE, I haven’t gone back through our reports or press releases to determine that; I mentioned the 2006 report because I remembered, without having to do much research, that that expulsion was mentioned in that report. If I get the time, I may look further into the question as to how early AI mentioned it.
OK Jim MD – I will go through the reports of 2006, but will not comment as Iwould like to see a 1990's report as mentioned. I personally see the comment of going back to yesteryear's to find the answers as an Excuse – No offense.
As per my belief, AI probably was sleeping when all the LTTE based violence occurred and suddenly woke up when the GOSL went on the offensive because it was getting out of hand and was dragging for too long. For the past 30 years, we probably tried to do what AI and other parties wanted us to do without reaching any kind of solution. This is probably the way to handle it – our way – and it worked. The sad thing is that we don't see some pressure groups failing to see the end of a Terror group that was a menace to the world. As I have always mentioned, there is something called the letter of the law and then there is the spirit of the Law – the latter comes in to play when we use human intelligence to figure out stuff. The former is for Robots.
OK Jim MD – I will go through the reports of 2006, but will not comment as Iwould like to see a 1990’s report as mentioned. I personally see the comment of going back to yesteryear’s to find the answers as an Excuse – No offense.
As per my belief, AI probably was sleeping when all the LTTE based violence occurred and suddenly woke up when the GOSL went on the offensive because it was getting out of hand and was dragging for too long. For the past 30 years, we probably tried to do what AI and other parties wanted us to do without reaching any kind of solution. This is probably the way to handle it – our way – and it worked. The sad thing is that we don’t see some pressure groups failing to see the end of a Terror group that was a menace to the world. As I have always mentioned, there is something called the letter of the law and then there is the spirit of the Law – the latter comes in to play when we use human intelligence to figure out stuff. The former is for Robots.
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 21, 10:58 P.M., I'd suggest that those interested in what AI has said in the past about LTTE abuses visit http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka. If you click on "Reports" in the upper right corner, you'll find our past reports on Sri Lanka. I'd suggest looking at the reports dated Jan. 1992, Jan. 1993, Sept. 1995, Aug. 1996, Nov. 1997, Apr. 1998, Jun. 1999, Feb. 2006, Jun. 2006 and Feb. 2008. They all describe LTTE abuses. There are also numerous public statements which you can locate by clicking on "News" in the upper right corner; there are more than 20 public statements which describe LTTE abuses. The Sri Lanka page does not contain past urgent action appeals addressed to the LTTE; there have been at least 13 of them.
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 21, 10:58 P.M., I'd suggest that those interested in what AI has said in the past about LTTE abuses visit http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka. If you click on "Reports" in the upper right corner, you'll find our past reports on Sri Lanka. I'd suggest looking at the reports dated Jan. 1992, Jan. 1993, Sept. 1995, Aug. 1996, Nov. 1997, Apr. 1998, Jun. 1999, Feb. 2006, Jun. 2006 and Feb. 2008. They all describe LTTE abuses. There are also numerous public statements which you can locate by clicking on "News" in the upper right corner; there are more than 20 public statements which describe LTTE abuses. The Sri Lanka page does not contain past urgent action appeals addressed to the LTTE; there have been at least 13 of them.
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 21, 10:58 P.M., I'd suggest that those interested in what AI has said in the past about LTTE abuses visit http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka. If you click on "Reports" in the upper right corner, you'll find our past reports on Sri Lanka. I'd suggest looking at the reports dated Jan. 1992, Jan. 1993, Sept. 1995, Aug. 1996, Nov. 1997, Apr. 1998, Jun. 1999, Feb. 2006, Jun. 2006 and Feb. 2008. They all describe LTTE abuses. There are also numerous public statements which you can locate by clicking on "News" in the upper right corner; there are more than 20 public statements which describe LTTE abuses. The Sri Lanka page does not contain past urgent action appeals addressed to the LTTE; there have been at least 13 of them.
Thurairasa Saradha Devi’s brother, Ponnuthurai Pakiyanathan, was massacred on that day.
She says,
“Early in the morning , I was preparing breakfast. My husband had gone to Pulliyampokkani to buy paddy.
Suddenly one helicopter came and landed by the side of my house. We ran into the house and hid. The army surrounded my house. They ordered us to come out and kneel. There was another child with us who also knelt on the floor.
They captured my brother and tied his hands. They took him by the side of the helicopter and gave him a rifle to hold and took video footage and a photo.
Afterwards they brought my brother to the house and asked me if he was an LTTE man. I denied this and said ‘he is not an LTTE man – we are farmers – we are poor people doing farm work here only. We don’t know about LTTE movement.’ But the army said that they had a photo with a weapon – so how could we say that he was not a terrorist.
We were hit by guns and boots. They threatened me saying they were going to shoot us and therefore we should tell the truth. They said that my brother was LTTE and that they had a photo of him with a gun. The army threatened that if we did not agree with them, they would kill us and all the children. With that they burnt our house down.
We were all shouting and begging them for mercy.
They took my brother with them. I followed them and cried and asked the army several times to release him. One army member kicked me with his boots and I fell on the floor. After sometime I opened my eyes. I did not see my brother.
Our house and other houses were burnt. There was smoke everywhere.
My children and I went to Pulliyampokkanai and returned the next morning. We saw so many dead bodies but could not find my brother.
We went to Mullaithivu and asked the army commander about my brother. He denied any knowledge of my brother.
Finally somebody told us that my brother’s body was in the forest.
We immediately went there and saw the body.
They had stabbed and pushed him from the helicopter.
All his bones were broken.
We burnt his body at the site.”
In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Dec. 21, 10:58 P.M., I’d suggest that those interested in what AI has said in the past about LTTE abuses visit http://www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka. If you click on “Reports” in the upper right corner, you’ll find our past reports on Sri Lanka. I’d suggest looking at the reports dated Jan. 1992, Jan. 1993, Sept. 1995, Aug. 1996, Nov. 1997, Apr. 1998, Jun. 1999, Feb. 2006, Jun. 2006 and Feb. 2008. They all describe LTTE abuses. There are also numerous public statements which you can locate by clicking on “News” in the upper right corner; there are more than 20 public statements which describe LTTE abuses. The Sri Lanka page does not contain past urgent action appeals addressed to the LTTE; there have been at least 13 of them.
Thurairasa Saradha Devi’s brother, Ponnuthurai Pakiyanathan, was massacred on that day.
She says,
“Early in the morning , I was preparing breakfast. My husband had gone to Pulliyampokkani to buy paddy.
Suddenly one helicopter came and landed by the side of my house. We ran into the house and hid. The army surrounded my house. They ordered us to come out and kneel. There was another child with us who also knelt on the floor.
They captured my brother and tied his hands. They took him by the side of the helicopter and gave him a rifle to hold and took video footage and a photo.
Afterwards they brought my brother to the house and asked me if he was an LTTE man. I denied this and said ‘he is not an LTTE man – we are farmers – we are poor people doing farm work here only. We don’t know about LTTE movement.’ But the army said that they had a photo with a weapon – so how could we say that he was not a terrorist.
We were hit by guns and boots. They threatened me saying they were going to shoot us and therefore we should tell the truth. They said that my brother was LTTE and that they had a photo of him with a gun. The army threatened that if we did not agree with them, they would kill us and all the children. With that they burnt our house down.
We were all shouting and begging them for mercy.
They took my brother with them. I followed them and cried and asked the army several times to release him. One army member kicked me with his boots and I fell on the floor. After sometime I opened my eyes. I did not see my brother.
Our house and other houses were burnt. There was smoke everywhere.
My children and I went to Pulliyampokkanai and returned the next morning. We saw so many dead bodies but could not find my brother.
We went to Mullaithivu and asked the army commander about my brother. He denied any knowledge of my brother.
Finally somebody told us that my brother’s body was in the forest.
We immediately went there and saw the body.
They had stabbed and pushed him from the helicopter.
All his bones were broken.
We burnt his body at the site.”
Silva !
Nice story – May be you should give this to Steven Spielberg to do a movie. Sounds like Hollywood movies from 70's.
We all can put stories like this. True ones on how the LTTE attacked border villages and mascaraed thousands of innocent civilians. But you cannot point finger at a party who saved the Tamils from the Terrorist menace.
Silva !
Nice story – May be you should give this to Steven Spielberg to do a movie. Sounds like Hollywood movies from 70’s.
We all can put stories like this. True ones on how the LTTE attacked border villages and mascaraed thousands of innocent civilians. But you cannot point finger at a party who saved the Tamils from the Terrorist menace.
Jim Pappa !!
Nice story – May be you should give this to Steven Spielberg to do a movie. Sounds like Hollywood movies from 70’s.
We all can put stories like this. True ones on how the LTTE attacked border villages and mascaraed thousands of innocent civilians. But you cannot point finger at a party who saved the Tamils from the Terrorist menace
I gather from your post- the GoSL is a beacon of the truth and blameless.
Strange ?!?
Recently even Sarath Fonseka highlighted the Sri Lankan war crimes. He said that he had been informed by a state media reporter that the defence minister, who is also the president’s brother, had wanted all surrendering rebels wiped out.
In the last days of the civil war, two political leaders of the rebel Tamil Tiger fighters were killed as they tried to lay down their arms and surrender.
The men led about a dozen men and women under a white flag to waiting Sri Lankan army troops.
A Tamil eyewitness said the soldiers fired on them with machine guns. Everyone in the group was killed.
The Sri Lankan Government had assured Nambiar (UN) that surrendering rebels would be safe.
No love lost for both- Sarath Fonseka (SF) or Mahinda Rajapakse (MR).
They are equally .
Here is the path to UN sponsored Sri Lankan war crime tribunals both so far trod as well as to come.
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We start with too many unchecked egos looking to keep a grip on power post-war.
After coming to terms with the true scope of MR's precipitated and tacit corruption SF goes looking for bigger rewards and is not only denied but humiliated (at least in his view) with the response.
SF decides to play a game of chicken with MR and his coterie by running against MR.
Both sides start to increase their war of words to the point that SF drops a bombshell in an interview with the Sunday Leader and ups the game of chicken by implicating both civilian politicians and senior Military commanders in war crimes.
(For the record… this scribe is not certain how, in the heat of battle with a strong-minded enemy sworn not to be taken alive ,one can determine the real intentions of such an enemy "surrendering". If I were commanding men in this situation their safety would be far more important to me than the safety of the enemy leadership and their respective family members. It would be inexcusable if somebody allowed troops to die by yet another ruse. Unless the President was on the line saying "DO NOT shoot" I would take zero chances… 🙂
Besides horribly undoing his own position, SF has to face the inevitable accusation that he was involved with white van activities (a rogue operation of his own doing no doubt) by MR and his gang.
Jim Pappa !!
Nice story – May be you should give this to Steven Spielberg to do a movie. Sounds like Hollywood movies from 70’s.
We all can put stories like this. True ones on how the LTTE attacked border villages and mascaraed thousands of innocent civilians. But you cannot point finger at a party who saved the Tamils from the Terrorist menace
I gather from your post- the GoSL is a beacon of the truth and blameless.
Strange ?!?
Recently even Sarath Fonseka highlighted the Sri Lankan war crimes. He said that he had been informed by a state media reporter that the defence minister, who is also the president’s brother, had wanted all surrendering rebels wiped out.
In the last days of the civil war, two political leaders of the rebel Tamil Tiger fighters were killed as they tried to lay down their arms and surrender.
The men led about a dozen men and women under a white flag to waiting Sri Lankan army troops.
A Tamil eyewitness said the soldiers fired on them with machine guns. Everyone in the group was killed.
The Sri Lankan Government had assured Nambiar (UN) that surrendering rebels would be safe.
No love lost for both- Sarath Fonseka (SF) or Mahinda Rajapakse (MR).
They are equally .
Here is the path to UN sponsored Sri Lankan war crime tribunals both so far trod as well as to come.
*********
We start with too many unchecked egos looking to keep a grip on power post-war.
After coming to terms with the true scope of MR’s precipitated and tacit corruption SF goes looking for bigger rewards and is not only denied but humiliated (at least in his view) with the response.
SF decides to play a game of chicken with MR and his coterie by running against MR.
Both sides start to increase their war of words to the point that SF drops a bombshell in an interview with the Sunday Leader and ups the game of chicken by implicating both civilian politicians and senior Military commanders in war crimes.
(For the record… this scribe is not certain how, in the heat of battle with a strong-minded enemy sworn not to be taken alive ,one can determine the real intentions of such an enemy “surrendering”. If I were commanding men in this situation their safety would be far more important to me than the safety of the enemy leadership and their respective family members. It would be inexcusable if somebody allowed troops to die by yet another ruse. Unless the President was on the line saying “DO NOT shoot” I would take zero chances… 🙂
Besides horribly undoing his own position, SF has to face the inevitable accusation that he was involved with white van activities (a rogue operation of his own doing no doubt) by MR and his gang.
Hi, opening up a blog website and in the middle of creating rather diverse content. Would you mind if I blog something about this article? Obviously I'll provide you and this site full credit.
Hi, opening up a blog website and in the middle of creating rather diverse content. Would you mind if I blog something about this article? Obviously I’ll provide you and this site full credit.
Click on name to read the article from BBC… Will that make you believe ? Remember BBC was harping about HR sometime back and backing the LTTE ??
They believe I guess, hence, AI, needs new eyes I trust !
They said the government had been trying to help them continue with their agricultural activities and setting up income-generating projects.
The government has provided them with 5,000 rupees ($44) in cash and 20,000 rupees ($175) in the bank. They have been promised another instalment of 25,000 rupees ($219).
They were given kitchen utensils to start cooking and six months' worth of rations.
They were also provided with tools to de-weed the land because it had been abandoned and become overgrown with trees and undergrowth.
Tell me one other government who had gone this distance to help war victims ?????? America ??
Click on name to read the article from BBC… Will that make you believe ? Remember BBC was harping about HR sometime back and backing the LTTE ??
They believe I guess, hence, AI, needs new eyes I trust !
They said the government had been trying to help them continue with their agricultural activities and setting up income-generating projects.
The government has provided them with 5,000 rupees ($44) in cash and 20,000 rupees ($175) in the bank. They have been promised another instalment of 25,000 rupees ($219).
They were given kitchen utensils to start cooking and six months’ worth of rations.
They were also provided with tools to de-weed the land because it had been abandoned and become overgrown with trees and undergrowth.
Tell me one other government who had gone this distance to help war victims ?????? America ??
Jim McDonald
I wish you a happy year-ending and enjoyable holidays.
May the New Year bring to you untold happiness and good health 🙂
In response to the comment from Natalie Bramley from Growing Apple Trees, I don't think there'd be any objection if you blogged something and gave this site the credit.
Thanks to Tnambi for the holiday wishes; I wish the same to all as well.
Jim McDonald
I wish you a happy year-ending and enjoyable holidays.
May the New Year bring to you untold happiness and good health 🙂
In response to the comment from Natalie Bramley from Growing Apple Trees, I don’t think there’d be any objection if you blogged something and gave this site the credit.
Thanks to Tnambi for the holiday wishes; I wish the same to all as well.
T Numb,
Recently even Sarath Fonseka highlighted the Sri Lankan war crimes. He said that he had been informed by a state media reporter that the defence minister, who is also the president’s brother, had wanted all surrendering rebels wiped out.
In the last days of the civil war, two political leaders of the rebel Tamil Tiger fighters were killed as they tried to lay down their arms and surrender.
The men led about a dozen men and women under a white flag to waiting Sri Lankan army troops.
The misinterpreted statement said that 3 leaders who came out waving flags were shot dead. Not each and every civilian who came out. You should also remember that there were many Suicide bombers who came out along with the civilians and blew them selves off killing Civilians and Forces – Now, where were you when this happened ?? Why did not you cry out loud the the LTTE to stop the menace and allow the innocent civilians to escape to the (then) government controlled areas ??
As per my personal opinion, I would, not for a second, hesitate to support the decision of getting rid of any LTTE leader that came out with what ever flag as I have had enough of them for the past 30 years. They never could be trusted, when ever during previous wars, when loosing, they came up with peace talks or some peaceful means to get away – not this times – Four times Bitten, 100 times shy… – but then again, that is my opinion, not anyone else s .
1. We all know for a fact that the civilians were not murdered by GOSL, but the LTTE when trying to escape – they were the ones in the camps who told the sorry stories of how the LTTE fired at them when trying to escape.
2. Thamilchelvan's wife and Children crossed over unharmed to GOSL areas, and went straight to army men, who did not kill them, but treated nicely and they are still living peacefully under GOSL who has provided them with security to ensure that they are safe.
3. George and Daya Masters who surrendered with white flags are still living, though in jail, they were prosecuted in the correct manner, by the judiciary.
Hence, it is quite tough to believe or convince me that the other leaders were shot anyway – I am sure that they have died in the war – I mean, after all, any Terrorist with Dignity, would fight till death than surrender like a pussy – I still want to trust the LTTE were Tigers and not Pussies… !
T Numb,
Recently even Sarath Fonseka highlighted the Sri Lankan war crimes. He said that he had been informed by a state media reporter that the defence minister, who is also the president’s brother, had wanted all surrendering rebels wiped out.
In the last days of the civil war, two political leaders of the rebel Tamil Tiger fighters were killed as they tried to lay down their arms and surrender.
The men led about a dozen men and women under a white flag to waiting Sri Lankan army troops.
The misinterpreted statement said that 3 leaders who came out waving flags were shot dead. Not each and every civilian who came out. You should also remember that there were many Suicide bombers who came out along with the civilians and blew them selves off killing Civilians and Forces – Now, where were you when this happened ?? Why did not you cry out loud the the LTTE to stop the menace and allow the innocent civilians to escape to the (then) government controlled areas ??
As per my personal opinion, I would, not for a second, hesitate to support the decision of getting rid of any LTTE leader that came out with what ever flag as I have had enough of them for the past 30 years. They never could be trusted, when ever during previous wars, when loosing, they came up with peace talks or some peaceful means to get away – not this times – Four times Bitten, 100 times shy… – but then again, that is my opinion, not anyone else s .
1. We all know for a fact that the civilians were not murdered by GOSL, but the LTTE when trying to escape – they were the ones in the camps who told the sorry stories of how the LTTE fired at them when trying to escape.
2. Thamilchelvan’s wife and Children crossed over unharmed to GOSL areas, and went straight to army men, who did not kill them, but treated nicely and they are still living peacefully under GOSL who has provided them with security to ensure that they are safe.
3. George and Daya Masters who surrendered with white flags are still living, though in jail, they were prosecuted in the correct manner, by the judiciary.
Hence, it is quite tough to believe or convince me that the other leaders were shot anyway – I am sure that they have died in the war – I mean, after all, any Terrorist with Dignity, would fight till death than surrender like a pussy – I still want to trust the LTTE were Tigers and not Pussies… !
Jim Pappa !
I agree with Thambi
“No love lost for both- Sarath Fonseka (SF) or Mahinda Rajapakse (MR).”
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Neither of these jokers is fit to run the country and the people deserve much better.
To make matters worse this is a self-inflicted wound by two men whose greed, inflated egos and avarice will do more harm to Sri Lanka than any so-called puppet or third party could ever dream of.
May add another scenario 🙂
The next jump is the investigation into SF’s illegal activities and his subsequent arrest for what will be a seemingly longer and longer list of illegal and unpatriotic activities before and after his retirement.
When it comes to this stage we get to see if… 😉
A: SF refuses to surrender to police, the subsequent potential of his forced arrest… and all of the dangers that come with that.
B: SF bolting the country for safer pastures (the US anybody?) from where to start his stepped-up releasing of war activities that serve to further implicate MR and GR in a sea of scandal.
He may do this after making a sweetheart deal with the Americans and the World Court in the Hague so he can testify against the brothers and thus win a war of attrition in which both sides and, worst of all Sri Lanka, lose.
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BTW-My only hope Sarath Fonseka will eventually spill the beans
Jim Pappa !
I agree with Thambi
“No love lost for both- Sarath Fonseka (SF) or Mahinda Rajapakse (MR).”
—————————————————————————————————-
Neither of these jokers is fit to run the country and the people deserve much better.
To make matters worse this is a self-inflicted wound by two men whose greed, inflated egos and avarice will do more harm to Sri Lanka than any so-called puppet or third party could ever dream of.
May add another scenario 🙂
The next jump is the investigation into SF’s illegal activities and his subsequent arrest for what will be a seemingly longer and longer list of illegal and unpatriotic activities before and after his retirement.
When it comes to this stage we get to see if… 😉
A: SF refuses to surrender to police, the subsequent potential of his forced arrest… and all of the dangers that come with that.
B: SF bolting the country for safer pastures (the US anybody?) from where to start his stepped-up releasing of war activities that serve to further implicate MR and GR in a sea of scandal.
He may do this after making a sweetheart deal with the Americans and the World Court in the Hague so he can testify against the brothers and thus win a war of attrition in which both sides and, worst of all Sri Lanka, lose.
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BTW-My only hope Sarath Fonseka will eventually spill the beans
T Numb,
Neither of these jokers is fit to run the country and the people deserve much better.
U think Piribaharan was the man to run the country ????
Actually in our part of the country, we have and ad something call the Election – a democratic process where people elect the president. Not a Loony Mentally challenged Fat mann claiming to be the leader and the ruler.
So let the people decide who is fit to run the country – Much easier ha ? 🙂 !!
To make matters worse this is a self-inflicted wound by two men whose greed, inflated egos and avarice will do more harm to Sri Lanka than any so-called puppet or third party could ever dream of.
Still better than a Terrorist with tunnel vision yay ??
The next jump is the investigation into SF’s illegal activities and his subsequent arrest for what will be a seemingly longer and longer list of illegal and unpatriotic activities before and after his retirement.
I wonder what these illegal and unpatriotic activities are ???????
A: SF refuses to surrender to police, the subsequent potential of his forced arrest… and all of the dangers that come with that.
Will not matter if he is president. If he is not, I guess he will also be called Diaspora – LOL…. so it would not matter to him anyways.
B: SF bolting the country for safer pastures (the US anybody?) from where to start his stepped-up releasing of war activities that serve to further implicate MR and GR in a sea of scandal.
This I trust will never happen. Won't be that stupid.
He may do this after making a sweetheart deal with the Americans and the World Court in the Hague so he can testify against the brothers and thus win a war of attrition in which both sides and, worst of all Sri Lanka, lose.
World is not America as you may have realised by now. There will be many other factors there as well. First of all, America, being a guilty nation will defa not dare point fingers at SL.
Anyways, i like your imagination power… Good thinking, just that it will not happen as you mentioned. Either party winning will know how to handle the situation that would ensure things happen the right way.
To begin with, I don't see any war crime – I trust the word "War" should be used to describe a conflict between 2 legitimate parties. (Gulf war – between US and Iraq – having representation in UN etc – legitimate). You can't call elimination of terrorist illegitimate party a "War" – So this does not fall under War crimes. HR violation against a group – may be, but then again, the idea behind elimination of the Fat guy and the team was to save the people who were effected by his lunacy ha ??
T Numb,
Neither of these jokers is fit to run the country and the people deserve much better.
U think Piribaharan was the man to run the country ????
Actually in our part of the country, we have and ad something call the Election – a democratic process where people elect the president. Not a Loony Mentally challenged Fat mann claiming to be the leader and the ruler.
So let the people decide who is fit to run the country – Much easier ha ? 🙂 !!
To make matters worse this is a self-inflicted wound by two men whose greed, inflated egos and avarice will do more harm to Sri Lanka than any so-called puppet or third party could ever dream of.
Still better than a Terrorist with tunnel vision yay ??
The next jump is the investigation into SF’s illegal activities and his subsequent arrest for what will be a seemingly longer and longer list of illegal and unpatriotic activities before and after his retirement.
I wonder what these illegal and unpatriotic activities are ???????
A: SF refuses to surrender to police, the subsequent potential of his forced arrest… and all of the dangers that come with that.
Will not matter if he is president. If he is not, I guess he will also be called Diaspora – LOL…. so it would not matter to him anyways.
B: SF bolting the country for safer pastures (the US anybody?) from where to start his stepped-up releasing of war activities that serve to further implicate MR and GR in a sea of scandal.
This I trust will never happen. Won’t be that stupid.
He may do this after making a sweetheart deal with the Americans and the World Court in the Hague so he can testify against the brothers and thus win a war of attrition in which both sides and, worst of all Sri Lanka, lose.
World is not America as you may have realised by now. There will be many other factors there as well. First of all, America, being a guilty nation will defa not dare point fingers at SL.
Anyways, i like your imagination power… Good thinking, just that it will not happen as you mentioned. Either party winning will know how to handle the situation that would ensure things happen the right way.
To begin with, I don’t see any war crime – I trust the word “War” should be used to describe a conflict between 2 legitimate parties. (Gulf war – between US and Iraq – having representation in UN etc – legitimate). You can’t call elimination of terrorist illegitimate party a “War” – So this does not fall under War crimes. HR violation against a group – may be, but then again, the idea behind elimination of the Fat guy and the team was to save the people who were effected by his lunacy ha ??
what pappa don't like the word war crime?
'Sri Lanka cannot escape war crime charges' http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Tit…
what pappa don't like the word war crime?
'Sri Lanka cannot escape war crime charges' http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Tit…
what pappa don't like the word war crime?
'Sri Lanka cannot escape war crime charges' http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Tit…
what pappa don’t like the word war crime?
‘Sri Lanka cannot escape war crime charges’
http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Sri+Lanka+cannot+escape+war+crime+charges&artid=TRJc6BXEEIA=&Title=Sri+Lanka+cannot+escape+war+crime+charges&SectionID=oHSKVfNWYm0=&MainSectionID=oHSKVfNWYm0=&SEO=war+crimes,+sri+lanka,+fonseka&SectionNa
Jim Pappa
Sri Lankan demagogues, like you will try everything to fill up their family bank accounts.
Berlin-based Transparency International’s Sri Lankan chapter has accused that nearly $537 million in tsunami aid for Sri Lanka is unaccounted for and over $686 million has been spent on projects unrelated to the disaster!
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-new…
World Bank, which recently concluded an audit of its $150-million tsunami rebuilding work, found out that a multitude of government agencies slowed down recovery programs leaving room for misuse of funds.
Sri Lanka was forced to refund the bank in cases where funds were misused. The bank said the government had bought 168 motorcycles for other work and claimed them from tsunami aid budgets
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Meanwhile the Tamils in the North are starving !!
Jim Pappa
Sri Lankan demagogues, like you will try everything to fill up their family bank accounts.
Berlin-based Transparency International’s Sri Lankan chapter has accused that nearly $537 million in tsunami aid for Sri Lanka is unaccounted for and over $686 million has been spent on projects unrelated to the disaster!
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-new…
World Bank, which recently concluded an audit of its $150-million tsunami rebuilding work, found out that a multitude of government agencies slowed down recovery programs leaving room for misuse of funds.
Sri Lanka was forced to refund the bank in cases where funds were misused. The bank said the government had bought 168 motorcycles for other work and claimed them from tsunami aid budgets
——————————————
Meanwhile the Tamils in the North are starving !!
Jim Pappa
Sri Lankan demagogues, like you will try everything to fill up their family bank accounts.
Berlin-based Transparency International’s Sri Lankan chapter has accused that nearly $537 million in tsunami aid for Sri Lanka is unaccounted for and over $686 million has been spent on projects unrelated to the disaster!
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-new…
World Bank, which recently concluded an audit of its $150-million tsunami rebuilding work, found out that a multitude of government agencies slowed down recovery programs leaving room for misuse of funds.
Sri Lanka was forced to refund the bank in cases where funds were misused. The bank said the government had bought 168 motorcycles for other work and claimed them from tsunami aid budgets
——————————————
Meanwhile the Tamils in the North are starving !!
Jim Pappa
Sri Lankan demagogues, like you will try everything to fill up their family bank accounts.
Berlin-based Transparency International’s Sri Lankan chapter has accused that nearly $537 million in tsunami aid for Sri Lanka is unaccounted for and over $686 million has been spent on projects unrelated to the disaster!
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/sri-lanka-tsunami-aid-misappropriated-watchdog-panel/story-fn3dxity-1225813871006
World Bank, which recently concluded an audit of its $150-million tsunami rebuilding work, found out that a multitude of government agencies slowed down recovery programs leaving room for misuse of funds.
Sri Lanka was forced to refund the bank in cases where funds were misused. The bank said the government had bought 168 motorcycles for other work and claimed them from tsunami aid budgets
——————————————
Meanwhile the Tamils in the North are starving !!
In Hell !!
what pappa don’t like the word war crime?
It is you and your dead fatty who are guilty of war crimes – not us who liberated the innocent people from blood thirsty mentally challenged people like you !!
You can accuse all you want for any other issues as Tsunami aids etc.. which i am not interested in. but, you cannot accuse the GOSL of any war crime as it is utter rubbish – You have an issue with the GOSL and the Singhala people – so actually, a person like you should not ideally be writing in a site like this – this is for unbiased people
In Hell !!
what pappa don’t like the word war crime?
It is you and your dead fatty who are guilty of war crimes – not us who liberated the innocent people from blood thirsty mentally challenged people like you !!
You can accuse all you want for any other issues as Tsunami aids etc.. which i am not interested in. but, you cannot accuse the GOSL of any war crime as it is utter rubbish – You have an issue with the GOSL and the Singhala people – so actually, a person like you should not ideally be writing in a site like this – this is for unbiased people
Massacre in the Hindu Temple
Manthuvil is a village near the Chavakachcheri town in the
Jaffna district.
Eight young men were spending the night at the Manthuvil Kolathamman temple after a day’s work in preparations for the Hindu Kumpaboshekam festival.
They had already taken permission from the Sri Lanka Army to spend the night at the temple.
While they were at the temple, the Sri Lankan military that drove past the temple at 7.00pm stopped at the temple and held an investigation and left.
Another military unit came around at 11.00pm and conducted another investigation.
Neighbors heard another jeep arriving at the temple at 12.00 midnight.
Following this gun shots and wails were also heard by the neighbors.
People were too frightened to come out in the middle of the night.
On day break people came out and started to look for the young men.
People noticed blood marks that had been covered with sand.
Later some people said that the bodies of these men were to be found in the nearby forest.
Sri Lankan military stopped the people from going to that area.
The families of the eight young men believe that Sri Lankan military personnel killed them and disposed the bodies.
Massacre in the Hindu Temple
Manthuvil is a village near the Chavakachcheri town in the
Jaffna district.
Eight young men were spending the night at the Manthuvil Kolathamman temple after a day’s work in preparations for the Hindu Kumpaboshekam festival.
They had already taken permission from the Sri Lanka Army to spend the night at the temple.
While they were at the temple, the Sri Lankan military that drove past the temple at 7.00pm stopped at the temple and held an investigation and left.
Another military unit came around at 11.00pm and conducted another investigation.
Neighbors heard another jeep arriving at the temple at 12.00 midnight.
Following this gun shots and wails were also heard by the neighbors.
People were too frightened to come out in the middle of the night.
On day break people came out and started to look for the young men.
People noticed blood marks that had been covered with sand.
Later some people said that the bodies of these men were to be found in the nearby forest.
Sri Lankan military stopped the people from going to that area.
The families of the eight young men believe that Sri Lankan military personnel killed them and disposed the bodies.
T Numb !!
Re. you post on "January 1st, 2010 at 5:41 am" – So you started your New Year in a very Credible manner I see 😀 😀 😀
😀 – wonder how you get all these "Credible" information in the west, when we Sri Lankan's nor the Government get's to know such activity that happens. I just checked with a Person in Jaffna who burst in to laughs – So very credible source of a lie 😀 😀 😀 !!!
T Numb !!
Re. you post on “January 1st, 2010 at 5:41 am” – So you started your New Year in a very Credible manner I see 😀 😀 😀
😀 – wonder how you get all these “Credible” information in the west, when we Sri Lankan’s nor the Government get’s to know such activity that happens. I just checked with a Person in Jaffna who burst in to laughs – So very credible source of a lie 😀 😀 😀 !!!
Here is another article by a well respected Tamil Gentleman by the name Dr. Noel Nadesan.
Now he saw the light well before most of you who post here including the AI. He is in the majority of Tamils – this I know for sure and as a fact, so don't argue with me on that… The uneducated, mentally challenged minority actually kill these kind of scholars. Click on my name for you to redirect to the article. Exerts are, (Cut and paste – liberty thanks to Rohan 🙂 )
"As of now Tamils, after the elimination of LTTE, have found a democratic space which was not available when the LTTE was ruling the roost. The Tamils also have come a long way from Vadukoddai Resolution of 1976. After the Vadukoddai Resolution the political wave demanding Tamil Eelam reached a peak. This Resolution changed the political mood and every Tamil was categorized either as an Eelamist or a traitor. Many opponents were seen as collaborators and they were killed. But all that has changed since May 19th of this year. After the end of Tigers in Nanthi Kadal every sensible Tamil realised Eelam is not the solution. Separatism was drowned in Nanthi Kadal. We have to work not only with majority community but also with other communities like the Muslim and up-country Tamils.
The Tamils have to be dynamic partners of a multi-racial Sri Lanka . Tamil politicians will never be able to serve the Tamil people well, if they do not join the mainstream politics. They can retain their political identities but they have no option but to work within the parameters of the mainstream. Race and religion should not be predominant factors in our politics any more. Only the welfare of the people has to be on the top of the political agenda."
What a great Man and a gentleman !!! Bow down to him !! This is what education can do I guess !
I think the following sentence explains all about our good friends of AI blogs. Most important, it is said by a Tamil, whom our good friends try to represent.
A vocal and significant section of the Tamil Diaspora was pro- LTTE and invested all what they had in Prabhakaran and LTTE. They contributed millions to the LTTE and many so-called community leaders visited Prabhakaran and returned home with photographs of rubbing shoulders with the Sun God. They all had their fifteen minutes of glory. After seeing Prabhakaran’s swimming pool they never expected the LTTE to go down in Nandi Kadal. Even after the fall of Killinochchi, they refused to accept that Prabhakaran is finished. They never assessed the ground realities objectively. They merely followed the instructions of Kilinochchi blindly. This cult mentality made them act like zombies without initiative.
They are like young kids who believe that the parents would do the right thing but when the parents die in an unexpected accident the kids do not know what to do next. They find it hard to come to terms with reality and do silly things. This idea of a trans-national Eelam is also a childish act. I hope they will accept the reality soon because they have no one in Sri Lanka to carry on the failed politics of the past. The Tamils must accept their failed past and look to a fresh and new beginnings.
Now listen to this great man and don't try to kill him !
Jim Pappa
I just checked with a Person in Jaffna who burst in to laughs..
Funny for you, isn’t it ?
The families of the butchered young men are still waiting for justice ..
This massacre is well documented by the North East Secretariat on Human Rights – NESOHR
BTW
You still don’t answer the question about the LTTE’s members who had allegedly been executed in cold blood after surrendering with white flags.
My point is not whether these tigers were bad and deserved their fate but that of the conduct of the govt and armed forces.
These guys were executed in cold blood after surrendering with white flags consequent to guarantees of safety from President Rajapakse and UN chief of staff. That is the issue here
Another point is that if these guys deserve this kind of “justice” then why are people like Karuna and Pillaiyan who also have a lot of blood on their hands not getting “Justice”?
Why are you not looking at this from a principled perspective?
If the LTTE executes in cold blood its terrorism but if the army does its patriotism is it?
Dear Krishna,
Firstly, I like this name Krishna – Hindu's say that he is the Avatar or Lord Buddha ha ?
Anyways,
About the bursting in to laughs instant, it's funny not only for me, to the people of Jaffna – they laughed, so do not single me out brother !!
as for the rest,
You still don’t answer the question about the LTTE’s members who had allegedly been executed in cold blood after surrendering with white flags.
My point is not whether these tigers were bad and deserved their fate but that of the conduct of the govt and armed forces.
I told my personal opinion before as I have no right to talk on behalf of the government. If it was me and a dictator of this country, I would have no hesitation to order firing if they were LTTE – especially the leaders, not the child soldiers as I always believe that they were mislead and could be put on track – not the innocent civilians as the GOSL rightfully did – they were saved from the shooting tigers ya ? We saw the footage.
As I mentioned before, Karuna and Pillayan are enjoying all the benefits because they chose the right path. See, we are a forgiving nation Krishna, we are cultured enough to forgive and forget. The fatty could have easily done so too and got more for the Tamils – he was as I said mentally challenged not to realize it. It's his own fault. We can't help it. There is a limit any party can take – jump the limit, it is doom's day !!
Here is another article by a well respected Tamil Gentleman by the name Dr. Noel Nadesan.
Now he saw the light well before most of you who post here including the AI. He is in the majority of Tamils – this I know for sure and as a fact, so don’t argue with me on that… The uneducated, mentally challenged minority actually kill these kind of scholars. Click on my name for you to redirect to the article. Exerts are, (Cut and paste – liberty thanks to Rohan 🙂 )
“As of now Tamils, after the elimination of LTTE, have found a democratic space which was not available when the LTTE was ruling the roost. The Tamils also have come a long way from Vadukoddai Resolution of 1976. After the Vadukoddai Resolution the political wave demanding Tamil Eelam reached a peak. This Resolution changed the political mood and every Tamil was categorized either as an Eelamist or a traitor. Many opponents were seen as collaborators and they were killed. But all that has changed since May 19th of this year. After the end of Tigers in Nanthi Kadal every sensible Tamil realised Eelam is not the solution. Separatism was drowned in Nanthi Kadal. We have to work not only with majority community but also with other communities like the Muslim and up-country Tamils.
The Tamils have to be dynamic partners of a multi-racial Sri Lanka . Tamil politicians will never be able to serve the Tamil people well, if they do not join the mainstream politics. They can retain their political identities but they have no option but to work within the parameters of the mainstream. Race and religion should not be predominant factors in our politics any more. Only the welfare of the people has to be on the top of the political agenda.”
What a great Man and a gentleman !!! Bow down to him !! This is what education can do I guess !
I think the following sentence explains all about our good friends of AI blogs. Most important, it is said by a Tamil, whom our good friends try to represent.
A vocal and significant section of the Tamil Diaspora was pro- LTTE and invested all what they had in Prabhakaran and LTTE. They contributed millions to the LTTE and many so-called community leaders visited Prabhakaran and returned home with photographs of rubbing shoulders with the Sun God. They all had their fifteen minutes of glory. After seeing Prabhakaran’s swimming pool they never expected the LTTE to go down in Nandi Kadal. Even after the fall of Killinochchi, they refused to accept that Prabhakaran is finished. They never assessed the ground realities objectively. They merely followed the instructions of Kilinochchi blindly. This cult mentality made them act like zombies without initiative.
They are like young kids who believe that the parents would do the right thing but when the parents die in an unexpected accident the kids do not know what to do next. They find it hard to come to terms with reality and do silly things. This idea of a trans-national Eelam is also a childish act. I hope they will accept the reality soon because they have no one in Sri Lanka to carry on the failed politics of the past. The Tamils must accept their failed past and look to a fresh and new beginnings.
Now listen to this great man and don’t try to kill him !
Jim Pappa
I just checked with a Person in Jaffna who burst in to laughs..
Funny for you, isn’t it ?
The families of the butchered young men are still waiting for justice ..
This massacre is well documented by the North East Secretariat on Human Rights – NESOHR
BTW
You still don’t answer the question about the LTTE’s members who had allegedly been executed in cold blood after surrendering with white flags.
My point is not whether these tigers were bad and deserved their fate but that of the conduct of the govt and armed forces.
These guys were executed in cold blood after surrendering with white flags consequent to guarantees of safety from President Rajapakse and UN chief of staff. That is the issue here
Another point is that if these guys deserve this kind of “justice” then why are people like Karuna and Pillaiyan who also have a lot of blood on their hands not getting “Justice”?
Why are you not looking at this from a principled perspective?
If the LTTE executes in cold blood its terrorism but if the army does its patriotism is it?
Dear Krishna,
Firstly, I like this name Krishna – Hindu’s say that he is the Avatar or Lord Buddha ha ?
Anyways,
About the bursting in to laughs instant, it’s funny not only for me, to the people of Jaffna – they laughed, so do not single me out brother !!
as for the rest,
You still don’t answer the question about the LTTE’s members who had allegedly been executed in cold blood after surrendering with white flags.
My point is not whether these tigers were bad and deserved their fate but that of the conduct of the govt and armed forces.
I told my personal opinion before as I have no right to talk on behalf of the government. If it was me and a dictator of this country, I would have no hesitation to order firing if they were LTTE – especially the leaders, not the child soldiers as I always believe that they were mislead and could be put on track – not the innocent civilians as the GOSL rightfully did – they were saved from the shooting tigers ya ? We saw the footage.
As I mentioned before, Karuna and Pillayan are enjoying all the benefits because they chose the right path. See, we are a forgiving nation Krishna, we are cultured enough to forgive and forget. The fatty could have easily done so too and got more for the Tamils – he was as I said mentally challenged not to realize it. It’s his own fault. We can’t help it. There is a limit any party can take – jump the limit, it is doom’s day !!
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