Warning: This video is not suitable for children. Do not try this at home.
Last night in a TV interview former President Bush reiterated that he personally approved waterboarding Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and would do it again.
According to Bush, “the lawyer said it was legal.” Try that defense the next time you’re accused of a crime. It should become one of the great catchphrases of our time, the “Where’s the beef?” of the aughts.
Bush also said waterboarding saved lives. First of all, even if it did it’s still wrong and a crime. Second, where’s the proof? Actual military interrogators say torture cost American lives.
Bush is just trying to cover his butt from being prosecuted for torture.
Let’s call him out:
Email the waterboarding video above to Bush’s Presidential Library and Museum at [email protected].
I’m going to include the message “Torture is part of President George W. Bush’s legacy. Please add this video of waterboarding to his museum.”
What will you say? Let us know in the comments.
Here is the message I sent:
I would like to recommend that this video play on a permanent loop in light of the former president's proud defense of torture.
Alternatively, you could just strap him to a board and let the people who have suffered and the survivors of those who died because of his awful "leadership" have a free turn or two waterboarding *him* – I think I like that idea even better.
Just a personal comment for you. I'm all against waterboarding, I support Amnesty International, and I think Bush is an asshole, but your video doesn't depict waterboarding, so it misses the point and is misleading. You're basically lying to people by showing it. Do you really want to weaken your message by using the same methods that Fox News uses all the time? Lying will get you nowhere but in trouble.
How is it not waterboarding? The guys is on a board and they pouring water in his mouth. What, because there isn;t a cloth over his mouth?
You see, world, it's not a war crime if we do it, only if YOU do it. Then we wrap ourselves in our flag and bray. What shame President Bush and his rough crowd visited upon our great country.
You people are just like the rest of the morons who drape yourselves in a judgmental cloak of elitist views. You like to blame everything on Bush. You want peace and you think it it will come by sitting around a campfire singing songs with the very people who want you dead. You are ashamed of America and real Americans are ashamed of you. If you want to call it torture then call it torture. Whatever it takes to get the information to prevent another attack but that doesn't matter to enlightened people like you
Dear President Bush,
I am distressed to learn that you have once again publicly defended your use of "Waterboarding", in the torture of of Khalid Sheihk Mohammed, and that you state that "you would do it again". What is more, you are now claiming "the lawyer said it was legal". Is that some form of "attorney" strategy?
President Bush, it has been quite some time, though you may recall having taken an oath to uphold the laws of this nation, prior to to being sworn as the Commander in Chief. That oath was meant to include "all" of the laws, not just those that seemed "useful" at the time. There is in fact a good reason, that the use of torture has been outlawed, but that's another discussion.
Inasmuch as you seem so determined to remind us that you approved the torture of a human being by means of waterboarding, and to defend and support that decision, I respectfully have a suggestion for you. Please make the attached video, along with your own comments, a permanent exhibit at your Presidential library, to help us to remember what was so important to you during your administration.
Sincerely,
Lori Kechter
I'm sorry to have to put this to you, but the reason for torture in counter-insurgency wars is that it works – most of the time.
It's not nice, it'll ruin someone's weekend plans, but we all know it works, but pretend that it doesn't.
The War Nerd put it very succinctly: 'No army ever fought a CI campaign without resorting to torture. Goes with the territory"
http://tinyurl.com/3yq9t9w
@Michael – You don't think your own comment is just a tiny bit judgemental?
And as for the suggestion that being against torture means someone would like to cozy up to the terrorists, that's just ludicrous. I can support the Geneva Conventions without supporting terrorism. And I can work more effectively if I do because no one can call me a hypocrite.
Where were your cries for justice when Hussein gassed 6000 Kurds with non existent weapons of mass destruction and why don't you show the video of the Afgan woman being shot in the head by the Taliban for being caught without her husband. Or maybe you could even talk about how Chinese snipers were picking off Tibetan pilgrims who were going to worship. The Geneva Convention applies to uniformed militaries so don't hide behind it and accept the reality. Terrorists can't be reasoned with!!
THE VIDEO DOESN'T SHOW WATERBOARDING !
Reply to BRGET, who wrote:
> How is it not waterboarding? The guys is on a board and they pouring water in his mouth. What, because there isn;t a cloth over his mouth?
My reply:
That's basically it. The video is depicting a "related" form of torture that's much worse, but the only relation is the position and that water's involved. Otherwise they are different. Waterboarding is bad enough, so show it accurately. Answers obtained by any form of torture are notoriously unreliable.
I'm sorry to have to put this to you, but the reason for torture in counter-insurgency wars is that it works – most of the time.
It's not nice, it'll ruin someone's weekend plans, but we all know it works, but pretend that it doesn't.
The War Nerd put it very succinctly: 'No army ever fought a CI campaign without resorting to torture. Goes with the territory"
http://tinyurl.com/3yq9t9w
I'm sorry to have to put this to you, but the reason for torture in counter-insurgency wars is that it works – most of the time.
It's not nice, it'll ruin someone's weekend plans, but we all know it works, but pretend that it doesn't.
The War Nerd put it very succinctly: 'No army ever fought a CI campaign without resorting to torture. Goes with the territory"
http://tinyurl.com/3yq9t9w
Here is the message I sent:
I would like to recommend that this video play on a permanent loop in light of the former president’s proud defense of torture.
Alternatively, you could just strap him to a board and let the people who have suffered and the survivors of those who died because of his awful “leadership” have a free turn or two waterboarding *him* – I think I like that idea even better.
Just a personal comment for you. I’m all against waterboarding, I support Amnesty International, and I think Bush is an asshole, but your video doesn’t depict waterboarding, so it misses the point and is misleading. You’re basically lying to people by showing it. Do you really want to weaken your message by using the same methods that Fox News uses all the time? Lying will get you nowhere but in trouble.
How is it not waterboarding? The guys is on a board and they pouring water in his mouth. What, because there isn;t a cloth over his mouth?
You see, world, it’s not a war crime if we do it, only if YOU do it. Then we wrap ourselves in our flag and bray. What shame President Bush and his rough crowd visited upon our great country.
Actually, according to real military interrogators, like Matthew Alexander who is referenced in the post, torture does not work: it yields unreliable intel and the blowback is counterproductive. It's time to put the myth of torture's effectiveness to rest! Listen to the experts: the professional interrogators on the ground!
PS Hobgob: what the heck are you talking about? Please list in detail how the video doesn't show waterboarding. You keep claiming without showing!
Read up on the subject. The victim's face is covered. Water isn't poured directly onto the skin of the face, in the mouth, or in the eyes or nose. No water, at least not in any significant amount, enters the body. The video is inaccurate and by promoting it we'd be setting ourselves up for failure. It must be accurate.
What is shown is an even more gruesome form of torture. The risk of the victim dying before providing any kind of information is too great, and the length of time that this can be carried on is very limited. True waterboarding can go on for an awful long time, leading to great mental anguish. It's a psychological form of torture, using the constant threat (reinforced by strong physical sensations) of imminent drowning. It creates an immediate PrTSD (Present Traumatic Stress Disorder…..;-) Very, very nasty.
I'm all for emailing a video, but not this one.
You people are just like the rest of the morons who drape yourselves in a judgmental cloak of elitist views. You like to blame everything on Bush. You want peace and you think it it will come by sitting around a campfire singing songs with the very people who want you dead. You are ashamed of America and real Americans are ashamed of you. If you want to call it torture then call it torture. Whatever it takes to get the information to prevent another attack but that doesn’t matter to enlightened people like you
Dear President Bush,
I am distressed to learn that you have once again publicly defended your use of “Waterboarding”, in the torture of of Khalid Sheihk Mohammed, and that you state that “you would do it again”. What is more, you are now claiming “the lawyer said it was legal”. Is that some form of “attorney” strategy?
President Bush, it has been quite some time, though you may recall having taken an oath to uphold the laws of this nation, prior to to being sworn as the Commander in Chief. That oath was meant to include “all” of the laws, not just those that seemed “useful” at the time. There is in fact a good reason, that the use of torture has been outlawed, but that’s another discussion.
Inasmuch as you seem so determined to remind us that you approved the torture of a human being by means of waterboarding, and to defend and support that decision, I respectfully have a suggestion for you. Please make the attached video, along with your own comments, a permanent exhibit at your Presidential library, to help us to remember what was so important to you during your administration.
Sincerely,
Lori Kechter
Hobgob that's not a big difference at all – cloth over face vs no cloth over face. The subject thinks their drowning either way – and It's waterboarding either way.
@Michael – You don’t think your own comment is just a tiny bit judgemental?
And as for the suggestion that being against torture means someone would like to cozy up to the terrorists, that’s just ludicrous. I can support the Geneva Conventions without supporting terrorism. And I can work more effectively if I do because no one can call me a hypocrite.
Bush is not less than a Hyena
It isn't the most commonly described form of waterboarding. Maybe there are exceptions, but the video shouldn't show some exception.
How about a statistic with a legitimate academic reference to show that this "isn't the most commonly described form of waterboarding"? Again, don't just make claims–back them up.
Where were your cries for justice when Hussein gassed 6000 Kurds with non existent weapons of mass destruction and why don’t you show the video of the Afgan woman being shot in the head by the Taliban for being caught without her husband. Or maybe you could even talk about how Chinese snipers were picking off Tibetan pilgrims who were going to worship. The Geneva Convention applies to uniformed militaries so don’t hide behind it and accept the reality. Terrorists can’t be reasoned with!!
THE VIDEO DOESN’T SHOW WATERBOARDING !
Reply to BRGET, who wrote:
> How is it not waterboarding? The guys is on a board and they pouring water in his mouth. What, because there isn;t a cloth over his mouth?
My reply:
That’s basically it. The video is depicting a “related” form of torture that’s much worse, but the only relation is the position and that water’s involved. Otherwise they are different. Waterboarding is bad enough, so show it accurately. Answers obtained by any form of torture are notoriously unreliable.
I’m sorry to have to put this to you, but the reason for torture in counter-insurgency wars is that it works – most of the time.
It’s not nice, it’ll ruin someone’s weekend plans, but we all know it works, but pretend that it doesn’t.
The War Nerd put it very succinctly: ‘No army ever fought a CI campaign without resorting to torture. Goes with the territory”
http://tinyurl.com/3yq9t9w
Micheal.
I'll tell you who was thier when Sadam gassed the Kurds. The same family who allowed torture. Torture has been banned by George Washington.
Bush's father and Donald rumsfield gave Sadam the money he need to buy the poison gas from Bechtel Corporation, knowing that he planned to use it on the Kurds. Check the national news. Rumsfield was pictured shaking hands Witt Sadam when he gave him the money. The Neocons do not value human life. They only value their own money. The bush family even loaned hitler the money he needed to start the war and gas the Jews. This is what type of people they are.
James,
Well I can't argue with reason. I wasn't aware that the Bush family had enough money to finance a war with Britain, France, Russia and the US. After all of that, they still had enough to pay for the Holocaust too. It's a good thing Israel didn't find that out or they would not have been such good allies.
No US President will ever allow a previous US President to be prosecuted for war crimes.
Just forget about this. It ain’t ever gonna happen.
Every US President, Democrat or Republican, Bush or Obama, whomever, has had to authorize during their presidency what could be technically considered by some people as war crimes. The Obama Administration is itself is currently conducting a massive Predator drone war killing thousands of people, mostly civilian bystanders. This could be called “reckless disregard for civilian casualties” which is a Geneva Convention war crime. Amnesty has also many times in the past said that even the non-civilians killed in this way are victims of “illegal extra judicial executions”, also a war crime.
Thus Obama’s Predator drone war also could technically constitute a war crime, every bit as much as G. W. Bush’s water-boarding authorization was. It is interesting to note here that in fact President Bush ordered canceled most Predator Drone strikes during the last year of his administration because he felt the excessive civilian casualty rate made them counter-productive but one of President Obama’s first acts of his presidency on January 20th, 2009 was to order the the Predator Drone war resumed full force knowing of the accidental civilian casualties that would obviously result. In fact, the very first drone attack on Pakistan after an almost 2 year break under Bush took place Jan. 23 2009, days after the new President took office, and they have continued on an almost daily basis since then.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/world/asia/24ps…
I am sure when President Obama took office he did not look forward to in effect authorizing the slaughter of thousands of civilians, elderly, women, children, but that in deed is what seems to have happened since he gave those orders on Jan. 20th 2009.
Like this for example: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/07/world/asia/07af…
"American airstrikes that Afghan officials and villagers said Wednesday had killed dozens and perhaps more than 100 civilians"
President Obama has thankfully taken these regrettable, sad, difficult but 100% necessary steps to defend America and the whole world from really bad people, just exactly as Bush did with water boarding Mr. KSM.
So President Obama would rightly fear that allowing prosecution of President Bush for the water board war crime committed in defense of America as Commander in Chief, would set a precedent where Obama, when he eventual leaves office, being prosecuted for war crimes committed under the Obama Presidency by the next future President to come after him.
Actually, according to real military interrogators, like Matthew Alexander who is referenced in the post, torture does not work: it yields unreliable intel and the blowback is counterproductive. It’s time to put the myth of torture’s effectiveness to rest! Listen to the experts: the professional interrogators on the ground!
PS Hobgob: what the heck are you talking about? Please list in detail how the video doesn’t show waterboarding. You keep claiming without showing!
No US President will ever allow a previous US President to be prosecuted for war crimes.
Just forget about this. It ain’t ever gonna happen.
Every US President, Democrat or Republican, Bush or Obama, whomever, has had to authorize during their presidency what could be technically considered by some people as war crimes. The Obama Administration is itself is currently conducting a massive Predator drone war killing thousands of people, mostly civilian bystanders. This could be called “reckless disregard for civilian casualties” which is a Geneva Convention war crime. Amnesty has also many times in the past said that even the non-civilians killed in this way are victims of “illegal extra judicial executions”, also a war crime.
Thus Obama’s Predator drone war also could technically constitute a war crime, every bit as much as G. W. Bush’s water-boarding authorization was. It is interesting to note here that in fact President Bush ordered canceled most Predator Drone strikes during the last year of his administration because he felt the excessive civilian casualty rate made them counter-productive but one of President Obama’s first acts of his presidency on January 20th, 2009 was to order the the Predator Drone war resumed full force knowing of the accidental civilian casualties that would obviously result. In fact, the very first drone attack on Pakistan after an almost 2 year break under Bush took place Jan. 23 2009, days after the new President took office, and they have continued on an almost daily basis since then.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/world/asia/24ps…
I am sure when President Obama took office he did not look forward to in effect authorizing the slaughter of thousands of civilians, elderly, women, children, but that in deed is what seems to have happened since he gave those orders on Jan. 20th 2009.
Like this for example: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/07/world/asia/07af…
"American airstrikes that Afghan officials and villagers said Wednesday had killed dozens and perhaps more than 100 civilians"
President Obama has thankfully taken these regrettable, sad, difficult but 100% necessary steps to defend America and the whole world from really bad people, just exactly as Bush did with water boarding Mr. KSM.
So President Obama would rightly fear that allowing prosecution of President Bush for the water board war crime committed in defense of America as Commander in Chief, would set a precedent where Obama, when he eventual leaves office, being prosecuted for war crimes committed under the Obama Presidency by the next future President to come after him.
No US President will ever allow a previous US President to be prosecuted for war crimes.
Just forget about this. It ain’t ever gonna happen.
Every US President, Democrat or Republican, Bush or Obama, whomever, has had to authorize during their presidency what could be technically considered by some people as war crimes. The Obama Administration is itself is currently conducting a massive Predator drone war killing thousands of people, mostly civilian bystanders. This could be called “reckless disregard for civilian casualties” which is a Geneva Convention war crime. Amnesty has also many times in the past said that even the non-civilians killed in this way are victims of “illegal extra judicial executions”, also a war crime.
Thus Obama’s Predator drone war also could technically constitute a war crime, every bit as much as G. W. Bush’s water-boarding authorization was. It is interesting to note here that in fact President Bush ordered canceled most Predator Drone strikes during the last year of his administration because he felt the excessive civilian casualty rate made them counter-productive but one of President Obama’s first acts of his presidency on January 20th, 2009 was to order the the Predator Drone war resumed full force knowing of the accidental civilian casualties that would obviously result. In fact, the very first drone attack on Pakistan after an almost 2 year break under Bush took place Jan. 23 2009, days after the new President took office, and they have continued on an almost daily basis since then.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/world/asia/24ps…
I am sure when President Obama took office he did not look forward to in effect authorizing the slaughter of thousands of civilians, elderly, women, children, but that in deed is what seems to have happened since he gave those orders on Jan. 20th 2009.
Like this for example: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/07/world/asia/07af…
"American airstrikes that Afghan officials and villagers said Wednesday had killed dozens and perhaps more than 100 civilians"
President Obama has thankfully taken these regrettable, sad, difficult but 100% necessary steps to defend America and the whole world from really bad people, just exactly as Bush did with water boarding Mr. KSM.
So President Obama would rightly fear that allowing prosecution of President Bush for the water board war crime committed in defense of America as Commander in Chief, would set a precedent where Obama, when he eventual leaves office, being prosecuted for war crimes committed under the Obama Presidency by the next future President to come after him.
Read up on the subject. The victim’s face is covered. Water isn’t poured directly onto the skin of the face, in the mouth, or in the eyes or nose. No water, at least not in any significant amount, enters the body. The video is inaccurate and by promoting it we’d be setting ourselves up for failure. It must be accurate.
What is shown is an even more gruesome form of torture. The risk of the victim dying before providing any kind of information is too great, and the length of time that this can be carried on is very limited. True waterboarding can go on for an awful long time, leading to great mental anguish. It’s a psychological form of torture, using the constant threat (reinforced by strong physical sensations) of imminent drowning. It creates an immediate PrTSD (Present Traumatic Stress Disorder…..;-) Very, very nasty.
I’m all for emailing a video, but not this one.
Hobgob that’s not a big difference at all – cloth over face vs no cloth over face. The subject thinks their drowning either way – and It’s waterboarding either way.
Bush is not less than a Hyena
It isn’t the most commonly described form of waterboarding. Maybe there are exceptions, but the video shouldn’t show some exception.
How about a statistic with a legitimate academic reference to show that this “isn’t the most commonly described form of waterboarding”? Again, don’t just make claims–back them up.
Micheal.
I’ll tell you who was thier when Sadam gassed the Kurds. The same family who allowed torture. Torture has been banned by George Washington.
Bush’s father and Donald rumsfield gave Sadam the money he need to buy the poison gas from Bechtel Corporation, knowing that he planned to use it on the Kurds. Check the national news. Rumsfield was pictured shaking hands Witt Sadam when he gave him the money. The Neocons do not value human life. They only value their own money. The bush family even loaned hitler the money he needed to start the war and gas the Jews. This is what type of people they are.
James,
Well I can’t argue with reason. I wasn’t aware that the Bush family had enough money to finance a war with Britain, France, Russia and the US. After all of that, they still had enough to pay for the Holocaust too. It’s a good thing Israel didn’t find that out or they would not have been such good allies.
No US President will ever allow a previous US President to be prosecuted for war crimes.
Just forget about this. It ain’t ever gonna happen.
Every US President, Democrat or Republican, Bush or Obama, whomever, has had to authorize during their presidency what could be technically considered by some people as war crimes. The Obama Administration is itself is currently conducting a massive Predator drone war killing thousands of people, mostly civilian bystanders. This could be called “reckless disregard for civilian casualties” which is a Geneva Convention war crime. Amnesty has also many times in the past said that even the non-civilians killed in this way are victims of “illegal extra judicial executions”, also a war crime.
Thus Obama’s Predator drone war also could technically constitute a war crime, every bit as much as G. W. Bush’s water-boarding authorization was. It is interesting to note here that in fact President Bush ordered canceled most Predator Drone strikes during the last year of his administration because he felt the excessive civilian casualty rate made them counter-productive but one of President Obama’s first acts of his presidency on January 20th, 2009 was to order the the Predator Drone war resumed full force knowing of the accidental civilian casualties that would obviously result. In fact, the very first drone attack on Pakistan after an almost 2 year break under Bush took place Jan. 23 2009, days after the new President took office, and they have continued on an almost daily basis since then.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/world/asia/24pstan.html?_r=2&hp
I am sure when President Obama took office he did not look forward to in effect authorizing the slaughter of thousands of civilians, elderly, women, children, but that in deed is what seems to have happened since he gave those orders on Jan. 20th 2009.
Like this for example:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/07/world/asia/07afghan.html
“American airstrikes that Afghan officials and villagers said Wednesday had killed dozens and perhaps more than 100 civilians”
President Obama has thankfully taken these regrettable, sad, difficult but 100% necessary steps to defend America and the whole world from really bad people, just exactly as Bush did with water boarding Mr. KSM.
So President Obama would rightly fear that allowing prosecution of President Bush for the water board war crime committed in defense of America as Commander in Chief, would set a precedent where Obama, when he eventual leaves office, being prosecuted for war crimes committed under the Obama Presidency by the next future President to come after him.
Have to agree with Judo. There's more likelihood of us discovering alien life before the US regime allows itself to be judged by the same standard it demands of other countries. Uhh.. China, for instance.
To those who say torture doesn't work, how do you think the US forces managed to kill high-ranking al-Quaeda operators in Iraq? It wasn't by putting ads in Craigslist, but by allowing their Iraqi proxies to torture captured AQ cadres and get them to spill the beans.
On the question of whether torture saved lives, I think it's worth reiterating that real military interrogators like Matthew Alexander say torture cost American lives. Here's a quote from the article I linked to in the blog post:
"I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of suicide bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It's no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001. How anyone can say that torture keeps Americans safe is beyond me — unless you don't count American soldiers as Americans."
We are supposed to be the light of freedom and democracy in the world. Water boarding and the abuses of Abu Ghraib and the rest of Bushes policies have dimmed that light and it will be a long time before it will glow brightly again.
Have to agree with Judo. There’s more likelihood of us discovering alien life before the US regime allows itself to be judged by the same standard it demands of other countries. Uhh.. China, for instance.
To those who say torture doesn’t work, how do you think the US forces managed to kill high-ranking al-Quaeda operators in Iraq? It wasn’t by putting ads in Craigslist, but by allowing their Iraqi proxies to torture captured AQ cadres and get them to spill the beans.
On the question of whether torture saved lives, I think it’s worth reiterating that real military interrogators like Matthew Alexander say torture cost American lives. Here’s a quote from the article I linked to in the blog post:
“I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of suicide bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It’s no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001. How anyone can say that torture keeps Americans safe is beyond me — unless you don’t count American soldiers as Americans.”
We are supposed to be the light of freedom and democracy in the world. Water boarding and the abuses of Abu Ghraib and the rest of Bushes policies have dimmed that light and it will be a long time before it will glow brightly again.
What is the URL for the video, please?
[Letter, via email, to The George W. Bush Presidential Library, copy to Southern Methodist University Bush Presidential Center, [email protected], November 10, 2010]
To Whom it May Concern:
I understand from your website that The George W. Bush Presidential Library maintains "official records documenting the two-term administration (2001-2009) of the nation's forty-third president" and an extensive audiovisual collection.
Given President George W. Bush's consistent approval and support of waterboarding throughout and following his term in office, and the prominence this position had in the foreign affairs of his term, it would seem appropriate to include at least one video, in addition to other relevant materials, depicting the practice and criticism of it.
Amnesty International, amongst a host of other civil society, academic and governmental and inter-governmental entities, has condemned the practice as torture, illegal under international law. Yet, as evidenced in the President's most recent statements, he continues to rely on specious "legal advice" to the contrary.
By including documentation of this practice, generations to come will be able to understand President Bush's values in full context. Southern Methodist University, the future permanent home of your library and musuem might also appreciate the attention it will receive from visitors who will be able to learn about the policies forwarded by President Bush that, in part, turned a moment of international empathy for the United States into a longer-lasting one of global disapproval and disdain for its response to a tragic event.
I attach here a link to a video you might find appropriate. Thank you in advance for your consideration; I would very much appreciate a reply with your response.
Sincerely,
Thank you, Miss Tree. That is an incredibly powerful and elegant letter. Much appreciated.
Barbara: the URL is:
http://www.youtube.com/watchv=7LXxPfngRYU&fea…
(Hint: if you hover over the You Tube logo, you'll have the option to view the video on YouTube, and from there you can cut and paste the link.) Thank you!
Thank you, Miss Tree. That is an incredibly powerful and elegant letter. Much appreciated.
Barbara: the URL is:
http://www.youtube.com/watchv=7LXxPfngRYU&fea…
(Hint: if you hover over the You Tube logo, you'll have the option to view the video on YouTube, and from there you can cut and paste the link.) Thank you!
Thank you, Miss Tree. That is an incredibly powerful and elegant letter. Much appreciated.
Barbara: the URL is:
http://www.youtube.com/watchv=7LXxPfngRYU&fea…
(Hint: if you hover over the You Tube logo, you'll have the option to view the video on YouTube, and from there you can cut and paste the link.) Thank you!
I don't see anything wrong with water boding,Are these people are right when they beheading people. where are the critics then,I think that is the most humane torture that America practice when we compare to the extremist in middle east.
My gratitude to Mr. Johnson, Miss Tree, & all of you denouncing waterboarding & ALL other forms of torture….
i support your strong & vibrant voices, for you are the supporters of justice, truth & decency ….
Torture is an instrument of subjugation, control & coercion by which one class of society maintains its power over the peoples they rule.
Of course both the users of torture AND the ADVOCATES of torture within this system of coercion & control will "justify" their methods.
Even in the dock, if they fall from power …… as in Nuremberg.
Like Mr Bush the user of waterboarding justifies it ……..
Precisely so that he doesn't have to meet his Nuremberg.
& Mr. Michael & Mr. Mango, the advocates of torture, justify it …….
So that the systems they're complicit with don't have to end up in Nurembergs of their own, either …..
They each follow their own karma.
Unsurprisingly, Mr Judo ( quickly supported by Mr Mango, no surprise there, either ) brings up something that's NOT on this agenda ……… in order to pour cold water on the voices speaking out here against Bush's systemic & systematic use of torture.
"Forget about it," says Mr Judo. Obama won't prosecute Bush.
Who ever spoke about Obama here ???
This is NOT Obama's court that the People are speaking out in.
This is the PEOPLE'S OWN Court !!
It's the PEOPLE who are the Prosecutors here ….. in the Court of History as THEY see it !!
Perhaps the People don't carry any weight in the eyes of certain powerful Lobbies, & don't deserve any recognition of their voices, their caring, their concerns ?
They do ….. for me.
i recognize them.
i recognize the Truth in their fury & their caring.
& that's enough for me to join them.
What is the URL for the video, please?
[Letter, via email, to The George W. Bush Presidential Library, copy to Southern Methodist University Bush Presidential Center, [email protected], November 10, 2010]
To Whom it May Concern:
I understand from your website that The George W. Bush Presidential Library maintains “official records documenting the two-term administration (2001-2009) of the nation’s forty-third president” and an extensive audiovisual collection.
Given President George W. Bush’s consistent approval and support of waterboarding throughout and following his term in office, and the prominence this position had in the foreign affairs of his term, it would seem appropriate to include at least one video, in addition to other relevant materials, depicting the practice and criticism of it.
Amnesty International, amongst a host of other civil society, academic and governmental and inter-governmental entities, has condemned the practice as torture, illegal under international law. Yet, as evidenced in the President’s most recent statements, he continues to rely on specious “legal advice” to the contrary.
By including documentation of this practice, generations to come will be able to understand President Bush’s values in full context. Southern Methodist University, the future permanent home of your library and musuem might also appreciate the attention it will receive from visitors who will be able to learn about the policies forwarded by President Bush that, in part, turned a moment of international empathy for the United States into a longer-lasting one of global disapproval and disdain for its response to a tragic event.
I attach here a link to a video you might find appropriate. Thank you in advance for your consideration; I would very much appreciate a reply with your response.
Sincerely,
Thank you, Miss Tree. That is an incredibly powerful and elegant letter. Much appreciated.
Barbara: the URL is:
http://www.youtube.com/watchv=7LXxPfngRYU&feature=player_embedded
(Hint: if you hover over the You Tube logo, you’ll have the option to view the video on YouTube, and from there you can cut and paste the link.) Thank you!
I don’t see anything wrong with water boding,Are these people are right when they beheading people. where are the critics then,I think that is the most humane torture that America practice when we compare to the extremist in middle east.
Savage,
Your comparison of the waterboarding of a murderer of over 3000 people with the attempted genocide of 6,000,000 million INNOCENT people only demonstrates your ignorance of the latter.
You seem to know that waterboarding doesn't work then surely you can use your profound sense of writing to enlighten us as to a more effective way of extracting information and make the interrogators jobs a whole lot easier.
Respectfully,
Mr Michael
apologize for the 6,000,000 typo
My gratitude to Mr. Johnson, Miss Tree, & all of you denouncing waterboarding & ALL other forms of torture….
i support your strong & vibrant voices, for you are the supporters of justice, truth & decency ….
Torture is an instrument of subjugation, control & coercion by which one class of society maintains its power over the peoples they rule.
Of course both the users of torture AND the ADVOCATES of torture within this system of coercion & control will “justify” their methods.
Even in the dock, if they fall from power …… as in Nuremberg.
Like Mr Bush the user of waterboarding justifies it ……..
Precisely so that he doesn’t have to meet his Nuremberg.
& Mr. Michael & Mr. Mango, the advocates of torture, justify it …….
So that the systems they’re complicit with don’t have to end up in Nurembergs of their own, either …..
They each follow their own karma.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/bombs-awa…
"Bombs Away: Afghan Air War Peaks With 1,000 Strikes in October, 2010"
"According to NATO statistics, however, 49 by-standers were killed or wounded by coalition forces last month, Oct. 2010, compared to 38 last October. It’s an increase of 30%."
I ask this question:
When the time comes for President Obama to build the Obama Presidential museum will you all be demanding he too post pictures of bodies of innocent women and children ripped apart by Predator drone launched Hellfire missiles fired in the dead of night into homes full of sleeping civilians on suspicion that a Taliban militan is sleeping inside, perhaps next to his wife and children ?
Or is it just for dear President Bush that you reserve this special treatment ?
Unsurprisingly, Mr Judo ( quickly supported by Mr Mango, no surprise there, either ) brings up something that’s NOT on this agenda ……… in order to pour cold water on the voices speaking out here against Bush’s systemic & systematic use of torture.
“Forget about it,” says Mr Judo. Obama won’t prosecute Bush.
Who ever spoke about Obama here ???
This is NOT Obama’s court that the People are speaking out in.
This is the PEOPLE’S OWN Court !!
It’s the PEOPLE who are the Prosecutors here ….. in the Court of History as THEY see it !!
Perhaps the People don’t carry any weight in the eyes of certain powerful Lobbies, & don’t deserve any recognition of their voices, their caring, their concerns ?
They do ….. for me.
i recognize them.
i recognize the Truth in their fury & their caring.
& that’s enough for me to join them.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/bombs-awa…
"Bombs Away: Afghan Air War Peaks With 1,000 Strikes in October, 2010"
"According to NATO statistics, however, 49 by-standers were killed or wounded by coalition forces last month, Oct. 2010, compared to 38 last October. It’s an increase of 30%."
I ask this question:
When the time comes for President Obama to build the Obama Presidential museum will you all be demanding he too post pictures of bodies of innocent women and children ripped apart by Predator drone launched Hellfire missiles fired in the dead of night into homes full of sleeping civilians on suspicion that a Taliban militan is sleeping inside, perhaps next to his wife and children ?
Or is it just for dear President Bush that you reserve this special treatment ?
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/bombs-awa…
"Bombs Away: Afghan Air War Peaks With 1,000 Strikes in October, 2010"
"According to NATO statistics, however, 49 by-standers were killed or wounded by coalition forces last month, Oct. 2010, compared to 38 last October. It’s an increase of 30%."
I ask this question:
When the time comes for President Obama to build the Obama Presidential museum will you all be demanding he too post pictures of bodies of innocent women and children ripped apart by Predator drone launched Hellfire missiles fired in the dead of night into homes full of sleeping civilians on suspicion that a Taliban militan is sleeping inside, perhaps next to his wife and children ?
Or is it just for dear President Bush that you reserve this special treatment ?
Savage,
Your comparison of the waterboarding of a murderer of over 3000 people with the attempted genocide of 6,000,000 million INNOCENT people only demonstrates your ignorance of the latter.
You seem to know that waterboarding doesn’t work then surely you can use your profound sense of writing to enlighten us as to a more effective way of extracting information and make the interrogators jobs a whole lot easier.
Respectfully,
Mr Michael
apologize for the 6,000,000 typo
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/11/bombs-away-afghan-air-war-peaks-with-1000-strikes-in-october/
“Bombs Away: Afghan Air War Peaks With 1,000 Strikes in October, 2010”
“According to NATO statistics, however, 49 by-standers were killed or wounded by coalition forces last month, Oct. 2010, compared to 38 last October. It’s an increase of 30%.”
I ask this question:
When the time comes for President Obama to build the Obama Presidential museum will you all be demanding he too post pictures of bodies of innocent women and children ripped apart by Predator drone launched Hellfire missiles fired in the dead of night into homes full of sleeping civilians on suspicion that a Taliban militan is sleeping inside, perhaps next to his wife and children ?
Or is it just for dear President Bush that you reserve this special treatment ?
Hey, A. Savage,
I haven't advocated or justified it, merely explained and proved that it will continue to be used by all sides fighting in unconventional wars, including the US and other Western powers. Where is this 'People's Court' that you speak of ? Is it somewhere in your head?
Mr Michael: cut some slack for poor a.savage who isn't the sharpest tool in the box. His favourite terrorist groups include the LTTE and Taliban 🙂
Hey, A. Savage,
I haven’t advocated or justified it, merely explained and proved that it will continue to be used by all sides fighting in unconventional wars, including the US and other Western powers. Where is this ‘People’s Court’ that you speak of ? Is it somewhere in your head?
Mr Michael: cut some slack for poor a.savage who isn’t the sharpest tool in the box. His favourite terrorist groups include the LTTE and Taliban 🙂
Mango Says: November 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am
U forgot to mention the state terror action http://english.aljazeera.net//video/asia/2010/11/…
Mango Says: November 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am
U forgot to mention the state terror action http://english.aljazeera.net//video/asia/2010/11/…
Mango Says: November 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am
U forgot to mention the state terror action http://english.aljazeera.net//video/asia/2010/11/…
Mango Says: November 11th, 2010 at 9:14 am
U forgot to mention the state terror action
http://english.aljazeera.net//video/asia/2010/11/2010111010021857352.html
@ Sri Lanka: nothing new there. Some old pix of Fatty's idiot son (Charles Anthony) and other LTTE cadres after they were killed in action. Undoubtedly human rights were violated by the SL govt in crushing the LTTE. Is that surprising?
Paul Harris, in 2004, eloquently listed the choices available to SL govt when combatting the LTTE.
"A state has limited options when dealing with terrorists. It can:
1. Talk to them and sue for peace. There are no examples of success in this strategy in relation to significant potent terrorist groups.
2. Adopt a mid-way approach, alternately talking peace and fighting the terrorists. This has effectively been the Sri Lanka strategy. Under this strategy the terrorists' goals remain firmly fixed while those of the state tend to become diffused.
3. Pursue the terrorists remorselessly and kill them in large numbers before they kill you. This implies 100% commitment physically and mentally. This course of action implies the use of special forces, extra-judicial execution and significant loss of human rights for the period in which it is employed."
Option 3 is the only one that worked. It was also the option employed by UK against the IRA, the US against Islamic terrorists etc.
http://tinyurl.com/yb2uh3x
@ Sri Lanka: nothing new there. Some old pix of Fatty's idiot son (Charles Anthony) and other LTTE cadres after they were killed in action. Undoubtedly human rights were violated by the SL govt in crushing the LTTE. Is that surprising?
Paul Harris, in 2004, eloquently listed the choices available to SL govt when combatting the LTTE.
"A state has limited options when dealing with terrorists. It can:
1. Talk to them and sue for peace. There are no examples of success in this strategy in relation to significant potent terrorist groups.
2. Adopt a mid-way approach, alternately talking peace and fighting the terrorists. This has effectively been the Sri Lanka strategy. Under this strategy the terrorists' goals remain firmly fixed while those of the state tend to become diffused.
3. Pursue the terrorists remorselessly and kill them in large numbers before they kill you. This implies 100% commitment physically and mentally. This course of action implies the use of special forces, extra-judicial execution and significant loss of human rights for the period in which it is employed."
Option 3 is the only one that worked. It was also the option employed by UK against the IRA, the US against Islamic terrorists etc.
http://tinyurl.com/yb2uh3x
@ Sri Lanka: nothing new there. Some old pix of Fatty's idiot son (Charles Anthony) and other LTTE cadres after they were killed in action. Undoubtedly human rights were violated by the SL govt in crushing the LTTE. Is that surprising?
Paul Harris, in 2004, eloquently listed the choices available to SL govt when combatting the LTTE.
"A state has limited options when dealing with terrorists. It can:
1. Talk to them and sue for peace. There are no examples of success in this strategy in relation to significant potent terrorist groups.
2. Adopt a mid-way approach, alternately talking peace and fighting the terrorists. This has effectively been the Sri Lanka strategy. Under this strategy the terrorists' goals remain firmly fixed while those of the state tend to become diffused.
3. Pursue the terrorists remorselessly and kill them in large numbers before they kill you. This implies 100% commitment physically and mentally. This course of action implies the use of special forces, extra-judicial execution and significant loss of human rights for the period in which it is employed."
Option 3 is the only one that worked. It was also the option employed by UK against the IRA, the US against Islamic terrorists etc.
http://tinyurl.com/yb2uh3x
President Bush has a new book out. Thanks for the free advertisement/publicity AI. CHAACHING.
History will be much kinder to President Bush then most the sheep are today. Keep crying for the radical islamic terrorists responsible for the deaths of thousands (and plotting for more) – because they felt the simulation of drowning.
@ Sri Lanka: nothing new there. Some old pix of Fatty’s idiot son (Charles Anthony) and other LTTE cadres after they were killed in action. Undoubtedly human rights were violated by the SL govt in crushing the LTTE. Is that surprising?
Paul Harris, in 2004, eloquently listed the choices available to SL govt when combatting the LTTE.
“A state has limited options when dealing with terrorists. It can:
1. Talk to them and sue for peace. There are no examples of success in this strategy in relation to significant potent terrorist groups.
2. Adopt a mid-way approach, alternately talking peace and fighting the terrorists. This has effectively been the Sri Lanka strategy. Under this strategy the terrorists’ goals remain firmly fixed while those of the state tend to become diffused.
3. Pursue the terrorists remorselessly and kill them in large numbers before they kill you. This implies 100% commitment physically and mentally. This course of action implies the use of special forces, extra-judicial execution and significant loss of human rights for the period in which it is employed.“
Option 3 is the only one that worked. It was also the option employed by UK against the IRA, the US against Islamic terrorists etc.
http://tinyurl.com/yb2uh3x
President Bush has a new book out. Thanks for the free advertisement/publicity AI. CHAACHING.
History will be much kinder to President Bush then most the sheep are today. Keep crying for the radical islamic terrorists responsible for the deaths of thousands (and plotting for more) – because they felt the simulation of drowning.
Mango Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:46 am , U still forget about the state terror act over 60 years.
Tamils in Sri Lanka have been subject to ethnic discrimination by successive Sri Lankan governments since Sri Lanka gained independence in 1948.
The 1956 ‘Sinhala-only’ Act which made Sinhala the national language was a conscious attempt by the government to redress what was perceived as an imbalance in favour of the Tamils. In 1970 the government, in a bid to appease the disgruntled, unemployed Sinhalese youth, introduced ‘standardisation’ in education. Though meant to discriminate in favour of rural children, it effectively meant that Tamil students had to score higher marks than Sinhalese to enter higher education via a quota system.
Each government since Independence has tried to appease the Sinhalese peasants by encouraging land colonisation schemes in traditional Tamil areas. Tamils allege that 1,500 of a total 7,000 square miles of ‘their’ territory has been brought under Sinhalese control. Such a claim to separate Tamil lands is a very recent phenomenon, brought about by the growing racisim of the state. For thousands of years Tamils and Sinhalese lived side by side – sharing kings, customs and foods, worshipping each others’ gods and entering into each others’ celebrations.
But successive governments have turned the ‘Tamil question’ into a political football, vying with one anotherto gain the votes of the Sinhalese majority. Racism is now becoming institutionalised at every level. A recent survey by the Movement for Racial Justice and Equality showed that Sinhala schoolbooks stereotype the Tamils and provided children with only a partial, Sinhalese history of the country. The outbreaks of communal violence against Tamils are often incited by politicians cashing in on Sinhalese fears, suggesting that the Tamils are about to swamp the country and annihilate the Sinhalese Buddhist state forever.
Sri lanka took advantage of Former president Bush's word 'War On Terror", but changed to 'War On Tamils', killed over 40,000 Tamils last year.
Grisly Photos Reveal Genocide by Sri Lankan Government Against Tamil People http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august072010/s…
Mango Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:46 am , U still forget about the state terror act over 60 years.
Tamils in Sri Lanka have been subject to ethnic discrimination by successive Sri Lankan governments since Sri Lanka gained independence in 1948.
The 1956 ‘Sinhala-only’ Act which made Sinhala the national language was a conscious attempt by the government to redress what was perceived as an imbalance in favour of the Tamils. In 1970 the government, in a bid to appease the disgruntled, unemployed Sinhalese youth, introduced ‘standardisation’ in education. Though meant to discriminate in favour of rural children, it effectively meant that Tamil students had to score higher marks than Sinhalese to enter higher education via a quota system.
Each government since Independence has tried to appease the Sinhalese peasants by encouraging land colonisation schemes in traditional Tamil areas. Tamils allege that 1,500 of a total 7,000 square miles of ‘their’ territory has been brought under Sinhalese control. Such a claim to separate Tamil lands is a very recent phenomenon, brought about by the growing racisim of the state. For thousands of years Tamils and Sinhalese lived side by side – sharing kings, customs and foods, worshipping each others’ gods and entering into each others’ celebrations.
But successive governments have turned the ‘Tamil question’ into a political football, vying with one anotherto gain the votes of the Sinhalese majority. Racism is now becoming institutionalised at every level. A recent survey by the Movement for Racial Justice and Equality showed that Sinhala schoolbooks stereotype the Tamils and provided children with only a partial, Sinhalese history of the country. The outbreaks of communal violence against Tamils are often incited by politicians cashing in on Sinhalese fears, suggesting that the Tamils are about to swamp the country and annihilate the Sinhalese Buddhist state forever.
Sri lanka took advantage of Former president Bush's word 'War On Terror", but changed to 'War On Tamils', killed over 40,000 Tamils last year.
Grisly Photos Reveal Genocide by Sri Lankan Government Against Tamil People http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august072010/s…
Mango Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:46 am , U still forget about the state terror act over 60 years.
Tamils in Sri Lanka have been subject to ethnic discrimination by successive Sri Lankan governments since Sri Lanka gained independence in 1948.
The 1956 ‘Sinhala-only’ Act which made Sinhala the national language was a conscious attempt by the government to redress what was perceived as an imbalance in favour of the Tamils. In 1970 the government, in a bid to appease the disgruntled, unemployed Sinhalese youth, introduced ‘standardisation’ in education. Though meant to discriminate in favour of rural children, it effectively meant that Tamil students had to score higher marks than Sinhalese to enter higher education via a quota system.
Each government since Independence has tried to appease the Sinhalese peasants by encouraging land colonisation schemes in traditional Tamil areas. Tamils allege that 1,500 of a total 7,000 square miles of ‘their’ territory has been brought under Sinhalese control. Such a claim to separate Tamil lands is a very recent phenomenon, brought about by the growing racisim of the state. For thousands of years Tamils and Sinhalese lived side by side – sharing kings, customs and foods, worshipping each others’ gods and entering into each others’ celebrations.
But successive governments have turned the ‘Tamil question’ into a political football, vying with one anotherto gain the votes of the Sinhalese majority. Racism is now becoming institutionalised at every level. A recent survey by the Movement for Racial Justice and Equality showed that Sinhala schoolbooks stereotype the Tamils and provided children with only a partial, Sinhalese history of the country. The outbreaks of communal violence against Tamils are often incited by politicians cashing in on Sinhalese fears, suggesting that the Tamils are about to swamp the country and annihilate the Sinhalese Buddhist state forever.
Sri lanka took advantage of Former president Bush's word 'War On Terror", but changed to 'War On Tamils', killed over 40,000 Tamils last year.
Grisly Photos Reveal Genocide by Sri Lankan Government Against Tamil People http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august072010/s…
Mango Says:
November 12th, 2010 at 6:46 am , U still forget about the state terror act over 60 years.
Tamils in Sri Lanka have been subject to ethnic discrimination by successive Sri Lankan governments since Sri Lanka gained independence in 1948.
The 1956 ‘Sinhala-only’ Act which made Sinhala the national language was a conscious attempt by the government to redress what was perceived as an imbalance in favour of the Tamils. In 1970 the government, in a bid to appease the disgruntled, unemployed Sinhalese youth, introduced ‘standardisation’ in education. Though meant to discriminate in favour of rural children, it effectively meant that Tamil students had to score higher marks than Sinhalese to enter higher education via a quota system.
Each government since Independence has tried to appease the Sinhalese peasants by encouraging land colonisation schemes in traditional Tamil areas. Tamils allege that 1,500 of a total 7,000 square miles of ‘their’ territory has been brought under Sinhalese control. Such a claim to separate Tamil lands is a very recent phenomenon, brought about by the growing racisim of the state. For thousands of years Tamils and Sinhalese lived side by side – sharing kings, customs and foods, worshipping each others’ gods and entering into each others’ celebrations.
But successive governments have turned the ‘Tamil question’ into a political football, vying with one anotherto gain the votes of the Sinhalese majority. Racism is now becoming institutionalised at every level. A recent survey by the Movement for Racial Justice and Equality showed that Sinhala schoolbooks stereotype the Tamils and provided children with only a partial, Sinhalese history of the country. The outbreaks of communal violence against Tamils are often incited by politicians cashing in on Sinhalese fears, suggesting that the Tamils are about to swamp the country and annihilate the Sinhalese Buddhist state forever.
Sri lanka took advantage of Former president Bush’s word ‘War On Terror”, but changed to ‘War On Tamils’, killed over 40,000 Tamils last year.
Grisly Photos Reveal Genocide by Sri Lankan Government Against Tamil People
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august072010/srilanka-violence-mv.php
@Sri Lankan: Yawn. The 40,000 Tamil civilians killed is a tedious lie and remains a lie regardless of how many times its repeated.
The war's over and no-one cares about your whining. Sri Lanka has a lot of work to do heal the wounds and re-build. If you're intent on re-starting the war inside Sri Lanka…. good luck. Your lifespan will be shorter than a May Fly.
This lucky child soldier survived and has to now start a new life – an unimaginably difficult process.
Susila, the youngest child of a family of four, was 15 when she was forcibly recruited by the LTTE in 2001. She was beaten and eventually forced into battle. She ran away from the LTTE six years later.
Now 24, Susila is unemployed, surviving with help from her family in Kokkadicholai Village, Batticaloa District. She tries hard not to think about the war.
"I thought I would die, especially after 2006 when fighting became really bad," she said. "Sometimes I wished I had simply died in fighting. The worst was the fear of pending death, rather than death itself."
http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/11/wished_i_had_…
@Sri Lankan: Yawn. The 40,000 Tamil civilians killed is a tedious lie and remains a lie regardless of how many times its repeated.
The war's over and no-one cares about your whining. Sri Lanka has a lot of work to do heal the wounds and re-build. If you're intent on re-starting the war inside Sri Lanka…. good luck. Your lifespan will be shorter than a May Fly.
This lucky child soldier survived and has to now start a new life – an unimaginably difficult process.
Susila, the youngest child of a family of four, was 15 when she was forcibly recruited by the LTTE in 2001. She was beaten and eventually forced into battle. She ran away from the LTTE six years later.
Now 24, Susila is unemployed, surviving with help from her family in Kokkadicholai Village, Batticaloa District. She tries hard not to think about the war.
"I thought I would die, especially after 2006 when fighting became really bad," she said. "Sometimes I wished I had simply died in fighting. The worst was the fear of pending death, rather than death itself."
http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/11/wished_i_had_…
@Sri Lankan: Yawn. The 40,000 Tamil civilians killed is a tedious lie and remains a lie regardless of how many times its repeated.
The war's over and no-one cares about your whining. Sri Lanka has a lot of work to do heal the wounds and re-build. If you're intent on re-starting the war inside Sri Lanka…. good luck. Your lifespan will be shorter than a May Fly.
This lucky child soldier survived and has to now start a new life – an unimaginably difficult process.
Susila, the youngest child of a family of four, was 15 when she was forcibly recruited by the LTTE in 2001. She was beaten and eventually forced into battle. She ran away from the LTTE six years later.
Now 24, Susila is unemployed, surviving with help from her family in Kokkadicholai Village, Batticaloa District. She tries hard not to think about the war.
"I thought I would die, especially after 2006 when fighting became really bad," she said. "Sometimes I wished I had simply died in fighting. The worst was the fear of pending death, rather than death itself."
http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/11/wished_i_had_…
Let's face it. Obama is too chicken shit to enforce anything like the law. Especially against a previous president because if he did, whose to say someone won't go after him?
Obama = chicken shit = self preservation ass hole
@Sri Lankan: Yawn. The 40,000 Tamil civilians killed is a tedious lie and remains a lie regardless of how many times its repeated.
The war’s over and no-one cares about your whining. Sri Lanka has a lot of work to do heal the wounds and re-build. If you’re intent on re-starting the war inside Sri Lanka…. good luck. Your lifespan will be shorter than a May Fly.
This lucky child soldier survived and has to now start a new life – an unimaginably difficult process.
Susila, the youngest child of a family of four, was 15 when she was forcibly recruited by the LTTE in 2001. She was beaten and eventually forced into battle. She ran away from the LTTE six years later.
Now 24, Susila is unemployed, surviving with help from her family in Kokkadicholai Village, Batticaloa District. She tries hard not to think about the war.
“I thought I would die, especially after 2006 when fighting became really bad,” she said. “Sometimes I wished I had simply died in fighting. The worst was the fear of pending death, rather than death itself.”
http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/11/wished_i_had_simply_died_in_fi.html#more
Let’s face it. Obama is too chicken shit to enforce anything like the law. Especially against a previous president because if he did, whose to say someone won’t go after him?
Obama = chicken shit = self preservation ass hole
@Michael: From veteran interrogator Matthew Alexander
"I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of suicide bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It's no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001. How anyone can say that torture keeps Americans safe is beyond me — unless you don't count American soldiers as Americans."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti…
@Michael: From veteran interrogator Matthew Alexander
"I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of suicide bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It's no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001. How anyone can say that torture keeps Americans safe is beyond me — unless you don't count American soldiers as Americans."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti…
@Michael: From veteran interrogator Matthew Alexander
"I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of suicide bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It's no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001. How anyone can say that torture keeps Americans safe is beyond me — unless you don't count American soldiers as Americans."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti…
@Michael: From veteran interrogator Matthew Alexander
“I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of suicide bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It’s no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001. How anyone can say that torture keeps Americans safe is beyond me — unless you don’t count American soldiers as Americans.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/28/AR2008112802242.html
Mango Says: November 13th, 2010 at 5:02 am ,
Sri Lanka massacred up to 40,000 Tamil civilians in 2009 http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
Sri Lanka's government is dominated by racist ideologues who promote the notion of the Sinhalese as a "chosen people." Government death squads have snatched thousands of people from the streets over the years. The country's highest court has explicitly rejected the role of international human rights instruments in Sri Lanka's affairs. And the government continues to deny that it killed civilians during the recent war, that there were battlefield executions, that it bombed hospitals, or that there is anything wrong with the sham democratic machinery of the state. The repressive creature of extreme nationalism is alive and well in Sri Lanka.
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/…
Some of the approximately 300 reports compiled by the State Department include allegations that government forces:
•Attacked hospitals and other civilian institutions
•Executed prisoners of war
•Killed rebel soldiers who were trying to surrender
•Secretly abducted and killed Tamil civilians, particularly children and young men
•Failed to provide adequate food, water and medical supplies to people displaced by fighting
Mango Says: November 13th, 2010 at 5:02 am ,
Sri Lanka massacred up to 40,000 Tamil civilians in 2009 http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
Sri Lanka's government is dominated by racist ideologues who promote the notion of the Sinhalese as a "chosen people." Government death squads have snatched thousands of people from the streets over the years. The country's highest court has explicitly rejected the role of international human rights instruments in Sri Lanka's affairs. And the government continues to deny that it killed civilians during the recent war, that there were battlefield executions, that it bombed hospitals, or that there is anything wrong with the sham democratic machinery of the state. The repressive creature of extreme nationalism is alive and well in Sri Lanka.
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/…
Some of the approximately 300 reports compiled by the State Department include allegations that government forces:
•Attacked hospitals and other civilian institutions
•Executed prisoners of war
•Killed rebel soldiers who were trying to surrender
•Secretly abducted and killed Tamil civilians, particularly children and young men
•Failed to provide adequate food, water and medical supplies to people displaced by fighting
Mango Says: November 13th, 2010 at 5:02 am ,
Sri Lanka massacred up to 40,000 Tamil civilians in 2009 http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
Sri Lanka's government is dominated by racist ideologues who promote the notion of the Sinhalese as a "chosen people." Government death squads have snatched thousands of people from the streets over the years. The country's highest court has explicitly rejected the role of international human rights instruments in Sri Lanka's affairs. And the government continues to deny that it killed civilians during the recent war, that there were battlefield executions, that it bombed hospitals, or that there is anything wrong with the sham democratic machinery of the state. The repressive creature of extreme nationalism is alive and well in Sri Lanka.
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/…
Some of the approximately 300 reports compiled by the State Department include allegations that government forces:
•Attacked hospitals and other civilian institutions
•Executed prisoners of war
•Killed rebel soldiers who were trying to surrender
•Secretly abducted and killed Tamil civilians, particularly children and young men
•Failed to provide adequate food, water and medical supplies to people displaced by fighting
Mango Says: November 13th, 2010 at 5:02 am ,
Sri Lanka massacred up to 40,000 Tamil civilians in 2009
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=31186
Sri Lanka’s government is dominated by racist ideologues who promote the notion of the Sinhalese as a “chosen people.” Government death squads have snatched thousands of people from the streets over the years. The country’s highest court has explicitly rejected the role of international human rights instruments in Sri Lanka’s affairs. And the government continues to deny that it killed civilians during the recent war, that there were battlefield executions, that it bombed hospitals, or that there is anything wrong with the sham democratic machinery of the state. The repressive creature of extreme nationalism is alive and well in Sri Lanka.
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100813/bc_sri_lanka_backgrounder_100813/20100813?hub=BritishColumbiaHome
Some of the approximately 300 reports compiled by the State Department include allegations that government forces:
•Attacked hospitals and other civilian institutions
•Executed prisoners of war
•Killed rebel soldiers who were trying to surrender
•Secretly abducted and killed Tamil civilians, particularly children and young men
•Failed to provide adequate food, water and medical supplies to people displaced by fighting
At UN, As War Criminal Posted as Sri Lanka Deputy, Will Panel Interview Him? http://www.innercitypress.com/banex4sri112110.htm…
A suspected war criminal who allegedly played a key role in the slaughter of 40,000 civilians in Sri Lanka has landed a cushy job at the United Nations — with full diplomatic immunity.
Read more: http://www.lankanewsweb.com/#ixzz16AkEpyuZ
At UN, As War Criminal Posted as Sri Lanka Deputy, Will Panel Interview Him? http://www.innercitypress.com/banex4sri112110.htm…
A suspected war criminal who allegedly played a key role in the slaughter of 40,000 civilians in Sri Lanka has landed a cushy job at the United Nations — with full diplomatic immunity.
Read more: http://www.lankanewsweb.com/#ixzz16AkEpyuZ
At UN, As War Criminal Posted as Sri Lanka Deputy, Will Panel Interview Him? http://www.innercitypress.com/banex4sri112110.htm…
A suspected war criminal who allegedly played a key role in the slaughter of 40,000 civilians in Sri Lanka has landed a cushy job at the United Nations — with full diplomatic immunity.
Read more: http://www.lankanewsweb.com/#ixzz16AkEpyuZ
At UN, As War Criminal Posted as Sri Lanka Deputy, Will Panel Interview Him?
http://www.innercitypress.com/banex4sri112110.html
A suspected war criminal who allegedly played a key role in the slaughter of 40,000 civilians in Sri Lanka has landed a cushy job at the United Nations — with full diplomatic immunity.
Read more: http://www.lankanewsweb.com/#ixzz16AkEpyuZ
@Sri Lankan:
Gen Silva is a bona-fide military commander and war hero who led from the front. The only people calling him 'a suspected war criminal' are distraught Eelamist donkeys and their even more distraught 'White Master' supporters.
Are you an Eelamist donkey or a distraught White Master ?
Here's Silva's 58th Division capturing LTTE cadres and treating them to a welcome drink of Thambili (king coconut).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JJ0kmKmq8
His contribution to utterly crushing the LTTE is well known and appreciated by people in Sri Lanka who can now breathe easily and travel on public transport together as one family. If only the Iraqis and Afghanis were so fortunate.
@Sri Lankan:
Gen Silva is a bona-fide military commander and war hero who led from the front. The only people calling him 'a suspected war criminal' are distraught Eelamist donkeys and their even more distraught 'White Master' supporters.
Are you an Eelamist donkey or a distraught White Master ?
Here's Silva's 58th Division capturing LTTE cadres and treating them to a welcome drink of Thambili (king coconut).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JJ0kmKmq8
His contribution to utterly crushing the LTTE is well known and appreciated by people in Sri Lanka who can now breathe easily and travel on public transport together as one family. If only the Iraqis and Afghanis were so fortunate.
@Sri Lankan:
Gen Silva is a bona-fide military commander and war hero who led from the front. The only people calling him 'a suspected war criminal' are distraught Eelamist donkeys and their even more distraught 'White Master' supporters.
Are you an Eelamist donkey or a distraught White Master ?
Here's Silva's 58th Division capturing LTTE cadres and treating them to a welcome drink of Thambili (king coconut).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JJ0kmKmq8
His contribution to utterly crushing the LTTE is well known and appreciated by people in Sri Lanka who can now breathe easily and travel on public transport together as one family. If only the Iraqis and Afghanis were so fortunate.
@Sri Lankan:
Gen Silva is a bona-fide military commander and war hero who led from the front. The only people calling him ‘a suspected war criminal’ are distraught Eelamist donkeys and their even more distraught ‘White Master’ supporters.
Are you an Eelamist donkey or a distraught White Master ?
Here’s Silva’s 58th Division capturing LTTE cadres and treating them to a welcome drink of Thambili (king coconut).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JJ0kmKmq8
His contribution to utterly crushing the LTTE is well known and appreciated by people in Sri Lanka who can now breathe easily and travel on public transport together as one family. If only the Iraqis and Afghanis were so fortunate.
Hi Mango, sri lanka propaganda agent
Sri Lankan priest urges justice for war crimes http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2010_11_24_00…
According to International Red Cross reports in 2003, it had received 20,000 complaints of disappearances, 9,000 of which had been resolved and the remaining still under investigation.
The priests who have either been killed or have disappeared include:
• Father George M. Jeyarajasingham, a Methodist priest, killed with his Muslim driver in 1984.
• Father Mary Bastian, allegedly shot dead in 1985.
• Father Eugene John Herbert SJ, disappeared in 1990.
• Father S.Selvaraja, abducted and killed in 1997.
• Father Thiruchelvam Nihal Jimbrown, disappeared in 2006
• Father Pakiaranjith, killed by a claymore mine in 2007.
• Father Xavier Karunaratnam, killed in 2008.
• Father Francis Joseph, missing since 2009.
UN must produce a Congo-type war crimes report on Sri Lanka, says Prof. Boyle http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
Hi Mango, sri lanka propaganda agent
Sri Lankan priest urges justice for war crimes http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2010_11_24_00…
According to International Red Cross reports in 2003, it had received 20,000 complaints of disappearances, 9,000 of which had been resolved and the remaining still under investigation.
The priests who have either been killed or have disappeared include:
• Father George M. Jeyarajasingham, a Methodist priest, killed with his Muslim driver in 1984.
• Father Mary Bastian, allegedly shot dead in 1985.
• Father Eugene John Herbert SJ, disappeared in 1990.
• Father S.Selvaraja, abducted and killed in 1997.
• Father Thiruchelvam Nihal Jimbrown, disappeared in 2006
• Father Pakiaranjith, killed by a claymore mine in 2007.
• Father Xavier Karunaratnam, killed in 2008.
• Father Francis Joseph, missing since 2009.
UN must produce a Congo-type war crimes report on Sri Lanka, says Prof. Boyle http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
Hi Mango, sri lanka propaganda agent
Sri Lankan priest urges justice for war crimes http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2010_11_24_00…
According to International Red Cross reports in 2003, it had received 20,000 complaints of disappearances, 9,000 of which had been resolved and the remaining still under investigation.
The priests who have either been killed or have disappeared include:
• Father George M. Jeyarajasingham, a Methodist priest, killed with his Muslim driver in 1984.
• Father Mary Bastian, allegedly shot dead in 1985.
• Father Eugene John Herbert SJ, disappeared in 1990.
• Father S.Selvaraja, abducted and killed in 1997.
• Father Thiruchelvam Nihal Jimbrown, disappeared in 2006
• Father Pakiaranjith, killed by a claymore mine in 2007.
• Father Xavier Karunaratnam, killed in 2008.
• Father Francis Joseph, missing since 2009.
UN must produce a Congo-type war crimes report on Sri Lanka, says Prof. Boyle http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
Hi Mango, sri lanka propaganda agent
Sri Lankan priest urges justice for war crimes
http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2010_11_24_007.html
According to International Red Cross reports in 2003, it had received 20,000 complaints of disappearances, 9,000 of which had been resolved and the remaining still under investigation.
The priests who have either been killed or have disappeared include:
• Father George M. Jeyarajasingham, a Methodist priest, killed with his Muslim driver in 1984.
• Father Mary Bastian, allegedly shot dead in 1985.
• Father Eugene John Herbert SJ, disappeared in 1990.
• Father S.Selvaraja, abducted and killed in 1997.
• Father Thiruchelvam Nihal Jimbrown, disappeared in 2006
• Father Pakiaranjith, killed by a claymore mine in 2007.
• Father Xavier Karunaratnam, killed in 2008.
• Father Francis Joseph, missing since 2009.
UN must produce a Congo-type war crimes report on Sri Lanka, says Prof. Boyle
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=33046
Mango???
Sri Lanka execution video: new war crimes claims http://www.channel4.com/news/sri-lanka-execution-…
Amnesty urges Britain to examine Rajapakse war crimes allegations http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
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Mango???
Sri Lanka execution video: new war crimes claims http://www.channel4.com/news/sri-lanka-execution-…
Amnesty urges Britain to examine Rajapakse war crimes allegations http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
01.12.10 Amnesty urges Britain to examine Rajapakse war cri..
13.11.10 Colombo reinstates visa to Al Jazeera TV crew
12.11.10 Al Jazeera staff denied visa over Sri Lanka war cr..
11.11.10 Al Jazeera spotlights Sri Lanka's alleged War Crim..
10.11.10 Rights groups flay LLRC, say whitewashes War Crime..
28.10.10 Britain reiterates support for independent inquiry..
19.10.10 Amnesty urges Hague on independent probe into Sri ..
14.10.10 HRW, ICG, Amnesty reject invite, slam LLRC
10.10.10 HRW discusses Sri Lanka war-crimes in Harvard even..
09.10.10 Pakistan joins Sri Lanka in execution video storm
03.10.10 Dublin follow-up on Sri Lanka war crimes
12.08.10 Malaysian Tamil leader hard on Sri Lanka’s abetter..
08.08.10 Malaysian politician to form Committee on genocide..
18.04.10 JNU convention condemns Sri Lanka war crimes
17.04.10 "Sri Lanka sets precedent for internationally acce..
21.02.10 Pasadena firm assists in Alston's execution video ..
02.02.10 Sri Lanka experts silent, Wijesinha oblivious to f..
16.01.10 Dublin verdict: Sri Lanka guilty of War Crimes
16.01.10 Satellite imagery evidence of Hospital attack reco..
14.01.10 Dublin analysis complements Alston's findings on e..
08.01.10 Video authentic, Alston calls for wider war crimes..
15.12.09 Times expert authenticates Sri Lanka's Channel-4 w..
29.10.09 Amnesty, CPJ, RSF call for probe into Channel-4 vi..
27.10.09 Sri Lanka editors receive death threats for Channe..
18.10.09 Forensic analysis confirms execution-video authent..
12.09.09 Executions: Sri Lanka refuting processed video, no..
28.08.09 Horrendous video images indicate violation of Inte..
27.08.09 HRW: UN must investigate Sri Lanka atrocities
26.08.09 SLA war crimes eerily similar to Srebrenica Scorpi..
25.08.09 Video shows style of extra-judicial killings in Sr..
Mango???
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13.11.10 Colombo reinstates visa to Al Jazeera TV crew
12.11.10 Al Jazeera staff denied visa over Sri Lanka war cr..
11.11.10 Al Jazeera spotlights Sri Lanka's alleged War Crim..
10.11.10 Rights groups flay LLRC, say whitewashes War Crime..
28.10.10 Britain reiterates support for independent inquiry..
19.10.10 Amnesty urges Hague on independent probe into Sri ..
14.10.10 HRW, ICG, Amnesty reject invite, slam LLRC
10.10.10 HRW discusses Sri Lanka war-crimes in Harvard even..
09.10.10 Pakistan joins Sri Lanka in execution video storm
03.10.10 Dublin follow-up on Sri Lanka war crimes
12.08.10 Malaysian Tamil leader hard on Sri Lanka’s abetter..
08.08.10 Malaysian politician to form Committee on genocide..
18.04.10 JNU convention condemns Sri Lanka war crimes
17.04.10 "Sri Lanka sets precedent for internationally acce..
21.02.10 Pasadena firm assists in Alston's execution video ..
02.02.10 Sri Lanka experts silent, Wijesinha oblivious to f..
16.01.10 Dublin verdict: Sri Lanka guilty of War Crimes
16.01.10 Satellite imagery evidence of Hospital attack reco..
14.01.10 Dublin analysis complements Alston's findings on e..
08.01.10 Video authentic, Alston calls for wider war crimes..
15.12.09 Times expert authenticates Sri Lanka's Channel-4 w..
29.10.09 Amnesty, CPJ, RSF call for probe into Channel-4 vi..
27.10.09 Sri Lanka editors receive death threats for Channe..
18.10.09 Forensic analysis confirms execution-video authent..
12.09.09 Executions: Sri Lanka refuting processed video, no..
28.08.09 Horrendous video images indicate violation of Inte..
27.08.09 HRW: UN must investigate Sri Lanka atrocities
26.08.09 SLA war crimes eerily similar to Srebrenica Scorpi..
25.08.09 Video shows style of extra-judicial killings in Sr..
Mango???
Sri Lanka execution video: new war crimes claims
http://www.channel4.com/news/sri-lanka-execution-video-new-war-crimes-claims
Amnesty urges Britain to examine Rajapakse war crimes allegations
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=33142
01.12.10 Amnesty urges Britain to examine Rajapakse war cri..
13.11.10 Colombo reinstates visa to Al Jazeera TV crew
12.11.10 Al Jazeera staff denied visa over Sri Lanka war cr..
11.11.10 Al Jazeera spotlights Sri Lanka’s alleged War Crim..
10.11.10 Rights groups flay LLRC, say whitewashes War Crime..
28.10.10 Britain reiterates support for independent inquiry..
19.10.10 Amnesty urges Hague on independent probe into Sri ..
14.10.10 HRW, ICG, Amnesty reject invite, slam LLRC
10.10.10 HRW discusses Sri Lanka war-crimes in Harvard even..
09.10.10 Pakistan joins Sri Lanka in execution video storm
03.10.10 Dublin follow-up on Sri Lanka war crimes
12.08.10 Malaysian Tamil leader hard on Sri Lanka’s abetter..
08.08.10 Malaysian politician to form Committee on genocide..
18.04.10 JNU convention condemns Sri Lanka war crimes
17.04.10 “Sri Lanka sets precedent for internationally acce..
21.02.10 Pasadena firm assists in Alston’s execution video ..
02.02.10 Sri Lanka experts silent, Wijesinha oblivious to f..
16.01.10 Dublin verdict: Sri Lanka guilty of War Crimes
16.01.10 Satellite imagery evidence of Hospital attack reco..
14.01.10 Dublin analysis complements Alston’s findings on e..
08.01.10 Video authentic, Alston calls for wider war crimes..
15.12.09 Times expert authenticates Sri Lanka’s Channel-4 w..
29.10.09 Amnesty, CPJ, RSF call for probe into Channel-4 vi..
27.10.09 Sri Lanka editors receive death threats for Channe..
18.10.09 Forensic analysis confirms execution-video authent..
12.09.09 Executions: Sri Lanka refuting processed video, no..
28.08.09 Horrendous video images indicate violation of Inte..
27.08.09 HRW: UN must investigate Sri Lanka atrocities
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@ Sri Lankan,
It's a bit late to be complaining about 'human rights' and war crimes, when those complaints come from an obvious LTTE supporter. Where are your complaints about the human rights of thousands of Tamil kids forced to fight and die attacking the SL Army? Why so quiet?
You want to swap atrocity videos? Be my guest.
Here's an LTTE suicide bra bomber, killing herself and failing to kill an democratically elected Sri Lankan politician: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpgnW4fKZo8
And here's an LTTE suicide bomber, killing himself and succeeding in killing a democratically elected Sri Lankan politician and nearby civilians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BoVSNQ8F0&fe…
All this terror and misery funded and supported by a hypocritical West-based pro-LTTE diaspora who wanted and supported the final war and then whined bitterly when the LTTE lost. Tough. Get over it.
@ Sri Lankan,
It's a bit late to be complaining about 'human rights' and war crimes, when those complaints come from an obvious LTTE supporter. Where are your complaints about the human rights of thousands of Tamil kids forced to fight and die attacking the SL Army? Why so quiet?
You want to swap atrocity videos? Be my guest.
Here's an LTTE suicide bra bomber, killing herself and failing to kill an democratically elected Sri Lankan politician: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpgnW4fKZo8
And here's an LTTE suicide bomber, killing himself and succeeding in killing a democratically elected Sri Lankan politician and nearby civilians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BoVSNQ8F0&fe…
All this terror and misery funded and supported by a hypocritical West-based pro-LTTE diaspora who wanted and supported the final war and then whined bitterly when the LTTE lost. Tough. Get over it.
@ Sri Lankan,
It's a bit late to be complaining about 'human rights' and war crimes, when those complaints come from an obvious LTTE supporter. Where are your complaints about the human rights of thousands of Tamil kids forced to fight and die attacking the SL Army? Why so quiet?
You want to swap atrocity videos? Be my guest.
Here's an LTTE suicide bra bomber, killing herself and failing to kill an democratically elected Sri Lankan politician: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpgnW4fKZo8
And here's an LTTE suicide bomber, killing himself and succeeding in killing a democratically elected Sri Lankan politician and nearby civilians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BoVSNQ8F0&fe…
All this terror and misery funded and supported by a hypocritical West-based pro-LTTE diaspora who wanted and supported the final war and then whined bitterly when the LTTE lost. Tough. Get over it.
@ Sri Lankan,
It’s a bit late to be complaining about ‘human rights’ and war crimes, when those complaints come from an obvious LTTE supporter. Where are your complaints about the human rights of thousands of Tamil kids forced to fight and die attacking the SL Army? Why so quiet?
You want to swap atrocity videos? Be my guest.
Here’s an LTTE suicide bra bomber, killing herself and failing to kill an democratically elected Sri Lankan politician:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpgnW4fKZo8
And here’s an LTTE suicide bomber, killing himself and succeeding in killing a democratically elected Sri Lankan politician and nearby civilians:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BoVSNQ8F0&feature=related
All this terror and misery funded and supported by a hypocritical West-based pro-LTTE diaspora who wanted and supported the final war and then whined bitterly when the LTTE lost. Tough. Get over it.