Norway: Democratic Defiance Amid Devastation

Tragedies often bring out anger, outburst, and, sometimes, hate. Not so much in Norway. Amid the devastating massacre of dozens, Norway is making sure its soul of tolerance is not stained with blood. Below are top five inspiring quotes by Norwegian officials.

1. Mayor of Oslo: “We shall punish the terrorist, and this will be his punishment: more democracy, more tolerance, more generosity.”

2. Norwegian Prime Minister: “…the answer to violence is even more democracy.”

3. Diplomat Steinar Gil: “Norway will not change. Evil will not prevail.”

4. Norwegian Prime Minister: “With the strongest of all weapons — the free word and democracy — we stake our course for Norway.”

5. Crown Prince of Norway: “Tonight the streets are filled with love. We have chosen to meet hatred with unity. We have chosen to show what we stand for.”

Norway’s message is clear: counter terror with more democracy. As Ernest Hemingway has said, courage is grace under pressure. May the Norwegian victims rest in peace. And may Norway’s democracy prevail.

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64 thoughts on “Norway: Democratic Defiance Amid Devastation

  1. it is difficult to see another country standing tall and shining a light for all the values your own country claims to have, and falters over. peace and long life, Norway!

  2. it is difficult to see another country standing tall and shining a light for all the values your own country claims to have, and falters over. peace and long life, Norway!

  3. 26.07.2011
    A OCEAN OF HOPE..

    It was supposed to be a parade
    a parade in honor of the dead

    It quickly grew into something much more
    into a stream of people, a movement

    They gathered in confusion, despair and hatred
    they carried their grief, fear and tears

    They created a beautiful sea of unity
    colored the future with roses, speeches and songs

    They showed us the way to go
    they gave us a ocean of hope..

    -javill-

  4. I am not so sure I agree that more democracy is in fact the best defense to terrorism.

    The Norwegian Police were alerted to the murderer months ago when he imported highly suspicious amounts of explosive chemicals from Poland but the Norwegian Police decided to simply ignore this warning and refused to investigate this tip because "it would have violated his rights".

    If this exact same scenario had occurred in the USA, because of the Patriot Act, this lunatic would have been treated as a possible terrorist and would have been likely caught before committing the murders.

    Sometimes personal freedom has to take a back seat to security .

  5. 26.07.2011
    A OCEAN OF HOPE..

    It was supposed to be a parade
    a parade in honor of the dead

    It quickly grew into something much more
    into a stream of people, a movement

    They gathered in confusion, despair and hatred
    they carried their grief, fear and tears

    They created a beautiful sea of unity
    colored the future with roses, speeches and songs

    They showed us the way to go
    they gave us a ocean of hope..

    -javill-

  6. @SmartPotato: These 'noble' men were around in Norway in 2001 when their country illegitimately invaded Afghanistan. We must not forget the victims of imperialism.

  7. @Ben Ortloff
    How do you figure exactly Norway supposedly "illegitimately invaded Afghanistan" ? That is a pretty crazy statement right there, I must say.

    A fellow NATO treaty member, the USA, was attacked from Afghanistan and under Article 5 of the NATO treaty Norway was obliged to help defend that country. In addition, the Security Council of the United Nations passed a binding resolution mandating the invasion of Afghanistan. And it unseated from power perhaps the most gruesomely oppressive human rights violating regime ever to exist, the Taliban.

    No act Norway ever took in its whole history was more "legitimate", more morally just, and more completely legal under international law than the invasion of Afghanistan.

  8. I am not so sure I agree that more democracy is in fact the best defense to terrorism.

    The Norwegian Police were alerted to the murderer months ago when he imported highly suspicious amounts of explosive chemicals from Poland but the Norwegian Police decided to simply ignore this warning and refused to investigate this tip because “it would have violated his rights”.

    If this exact same scenario had occurred in the USA, because of the Patriot Act, this lunatic would have been treated as a possible terrorist and would have been likely caught before committing the murders.

    Sometimes personal freedom has to take a back seat to security .

  9. @SmartPotato: These ‘noble’ men were around in Norway in 2001 when their country illegitimately invaded Afghanistan. We must not forget the victims of imperialism.

  10. @Ben Ortloff
    How do you figure exactly Norway supposedly “illegitimately invaded Afghanistan” ? That is a pretty crazy statement right there, I must say.

    A fellow NATO treaty member, the USA, was attacked from Afghanistan and under Article 5 of the NATO treaty Norway was obliged to help defend that country. In addition, the Security Council of the United Nations passed a binding resolution mandating the invasion of Afghanistan. And it unseated from power perhaps the most gruesomely oppressive human rights violating regime ever to exist, the Taliban.

    No act Norway ever took in its whole history was more “legitimate”, more morally just, and more completely legal under international law than the invasion of Afghanistan.

  11. The USA was never attacked by 'Afghanistan'. What we were told was that it was attacked by Saudi, Lebanese and Egyptian citizens who were financed by Saudis.

    The FBI never sought Osama Bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks, they admit this. He was on their wanted list for the 1993 WTC bombings among other things.

    The Security Council had already passed a resolution in 1999 to place sanctions on the Taliban. The same route they took with Iraq after the Gulf War causing the deaths of 500,000 innocent Iraqis.

    What would happen if Norway objected to the NATO invasion? Airstrikes? Financing and arming opposition to the incumbent party? The truth is that Norway was morally obliged to reject the Af-Pak invasion and they did not.

    If the powers behind the UN Security Council were subjected to their own laws they would be at the ICC right now, but that is not the case. They answer to no body. This is the aggression, hypocrisy and illegitimacy of the NATO Empire.

    The following video has excerpts from a great interview with Noam Chomsky for Iranian television. Try to ignore the editing and agenda.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mprzq1mA9Jk

  12. @judonimh

    "The Norwegian Police were alerted to the murderer months ago when he imported highly suspicious amounts of explosive chemicals from Poland but the Norwegian Police decided to simply ignore this warning and refused to investigate this tip because “it would have violated his rights”."

    He purchased a quite legal substance (commonly used for the preservation of meat) for the total sum of US$20… How would say, the US cope with controlling everyone purchasing legal substances for the amounts > $20? The reason his name was "on a list" was because the company he bought it from was being investigated, NOT because of the substance or the amount. It is thus completely misunderstood that the police was in any way "alerted" about his coming atrocities.

    I do understand that it is hard to get all these facts straight if one doesn't speak Norwegian and follow the Norwegian news. Have someone translate this for you: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/art

  13. The USA was never attacked by 'Afghanistan'. What we were told was that it was attacked by Saudi, Lebanese and Egyptian citizens who were financed by Saudis.

    The FBI never sought Osama Bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks, they admit this. He was on their wanted list for the 1993 WTC bombings among other things.

    The Security Council had already passed a resolution in 1999 to place sanctions on the Taliban. The same route they took with Iraq after the Gulf War causing the deaths of 500,000 innocent Iraqis.

    What would happen if Norway objected to the NATO invasion? Airstrikes? Financing and arming opposition to the incumbent party? The truth is that Norway was morally obliged to reject the Af-Pak invasion and they did not.

    If the powers behind the UN Security Council were subjected to their own laws they would be at the ICC right now, but that is not the case. They answer to no body. This is the aggression, hypocrisy and illegitimacy of the NATO Empire.

    The following video has excerpts from a great interview with Noam Chomsky for Iranian television. Try to ignore the editing and agenda.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mprzq1mA9Jk

  14. The USA was never attacked by 'Afghanistan'. What we were told was that it was attacked by Saudi, Lebanese and Egyptian citizens who were financed by Saudis.

    The FBI never sought Osama Bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks, they admit this. He was on their wanted list for the 1993 WTC bombings among other things.

    The Security Council had already passed a resolution in 1999 to place sanctions on the Taliban. The same route they took with Iraq after the Gulf War causing the deaths of 500,000 innocent Iraqis.

    What would happen if Norway objected to the NATO invasion? Airstrikes? Financing and arming opposition to the incumbent party? The truth is that Norway was morally obliged to reject the Af-Pak invasion and they did not.

    If the powers behind the UN Security Council were subjected to their own laws they would be at the ICC right now, but that is not the case. They answer to no body. This is the aggression, hypocrisy and illegitimacy of the NATO Empire.

    The following video has excerpts from a great interview with Noam Chomsky for Iranian television. Try to ignore the editing and agenda.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mprzq1mA9Jk

  15. @judonimh

    "The Norwegian Police were alerted to the murderer months ago when he imported highly suspicious amounts of explosive chemicals from Poland but the Norwegian Police decided to simply ignore this warning and refused to investigate this tip because “it would have violated his rights”."

    He purchased a quite legal substance (commonly used for the preservation of meat) for the total sum of US$20… How would say, the US cope with controlling everyone purchasing legal substances for the amounts > $20? The reason his name was "on a list" was because the company he bought it from was being investigated, NOT because of the substance or the amount. It is thus completely misunderstood that the police was in any way "alerted" about his coming atrocities.

    I do understand that it is hard to get all these facts straight if one doesn't speak Norwegian and follow the Norwegian news. Have someone translate this for you: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/art

  16. @judonimh

    "The Norwegian Police were alerted to the murderer months ago when he imported highly suspicious amounts of explosive chemicals from Poland but the Norwegian Police decided to simply ignore this warning and refused to investigate this tip because “it would have violated his rights”."

    He purchased a quite legal substance (commonly used for the preservation of meat) for the total sum of US$20… How would say, the US cope with controlling everyone purchasing legal substances for the amounts > $20? The reason his name was "on a list" was because the company he bought it from was being investigated, NOT because of the substance or the amount. It is thus completely misunderstood that the police was in any way "alerted" about his coming atrocities.

    I do understand that it is hard to get all these facts straight if one doesn't speak Norwegian and follow the Norwegian news. Have someone translate this for you: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/art

  17. @InTheKnow:

    You should ask yourself why the killer was placed on a terrorism black list of the British Security Service MI5 months ago, according to the Polish Police, but this was laughed at by the Norwegian Police. In either Britain or the US, with more surveillance of the public at the cost of slightly less so-called freedom than Norway, the killer would have been caught long ago.

    Source:
    The Polish Internal Security Agency’s press conference on 25-th July about the purchases of materials in the internet shop based in Poland for the manufacture of bombs.

    "Head of Poland's Counterterrorism Center, Zbigniew Muszynski, said the suspect bought two different substances, one in the amount of a few hundred grams, and more than 100 kilograms of the other substance.

    The suspect went in March this year on the terrorism black list of the British Security Service MI5, when he purchased the chemicals known to be useful in building explosive devices at the registered on-line supplier from Poland. The Brits forwarded the information to the Norwegian security service but they didn’t react. "

  18. Noam Chomsky? The man who claims there wasn't a shred of evidence to connect 9-11 with al-qaeda? Yeah – you should really listen to what he has to say. He's a WACKO

  19. The USA was never attacked by ‘Afghanistan’. What we were told was that it was attacked by Saudi, Lebanese and Egyptian citizens who were financed by Saudis.

    The FBI never sought Osama Bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks, they admit this. He was on their wanted list for the 1993 WTC bombings among other things.

    The Security Council had already passed a resolution in 1999 to place sanctions on the Taliban. The same route they took with Iraq after the Gulf War causing the deaths of 500,000 innocent Iraqis.

    What would happen if Norway objected to the NATO invasion? Airstrikes? Financing and arming opposition to the incumbent party? The truth is that Norway was morally obliged to reject the Af-Pak invasion and they did not.

    If the powers behind the UN Security Council were subjected to their own laws they would be at the ICC right now, but that is not the case. They answer to no body. This is the aggression, hypocrisy and illegitimacy of the NATO Empire.

    The following video has excerpts from a great interview with Noam Chomsky for Iranian television. Try to ignore the editing and agenda.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mprzq1mA9Jk

  20. @judonimh

    “The Norwegian Police were alerted to the murderer months ago when he imported highly suspicious amounts of explosive chemicals from Poland but the Norwegian Police decided to simply ignore this warning and refused to investigate this tip because “it would have violated his rights”.”

    He purchased a quite legal substance (commonly used for the preservation of meat) for the total sum of US$20… How would say, the US cope with controlling everyone purchasing legal substances for the amounts > $20? The reason his name was “on a list” was because the company he bought it from was being investigated, NOT because of the substance or the amount. It is thus completely misunderstood that the police was in any way “alerted” about his coming atrocities.

    I do understand that it is hard to get all these facts straight if one doesn’t speak Norwegian and follow the Norwegian news. Have someone translate this for you: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/artikkel.php?artid=10080789

  21. @InTheKnow:

    You should ask yourself why the killer was placed on a terrorism black list of the British Security Service MI5 months ago, according to the Polish Police, but this was laughed at by the Norwegian Police. In either Britain or the US, with more surveillance of the public at the cost of slightly less so-called freedom than Norway, the killer would have been caught long ago.

    Source:
    The Polish Internal Security Agency’s press conference on 25-th July about the purchases of materials in the internet shop based in Poland for the manufacture of bombs.

    “Head of Poland’s Counterterrorism Center, Zbigniew Muszynski, said the suspect bought two different substances, one in the amount of a few hundred grams, and more than 100 kilograms of the other substance.

    The suspect went in March this year on the terrorism black list of the British Security Service MI5, when he purchased the chemicals known to be useful in building explosive devices at the registered on-line supplier from Poland. The Brits forwarded the information to the Norwegian security service but they didn’t react. “

  22. Noam Chomsky? The man who claims there wasn’t a shred of evidence to connect 9-11 with al-qaeda? Yeah – you should really listen to what he has to say. He’s a WACKO

  23. I did post a wrong translation of the Polish news conference above, but it still seems the case that Polish Security alerted Norwegian Security that the monster bought unusual amounts of explosive chemicals.

    And without question, the only reason this tip was completely ignored by the Norwegian Police was due to the extreme anti-Muslim anti-Asian racism and anti-immigrant ethnic profiling mindset the Norwegian security system is based on where the skin color, eye color and hair color of the killer could immediately remove him from any and all suspicion.

  24. Brian,

    Chomsky never denies 911- al Qaeda connection.

    His contentions regarding this matter focus on other, different issues.

  25. I did post a wrong translation of the Polish news conference above, but it still seems the case that Polish Security alerted Norwegian Security that the monster bought unusual amounts of explosive chemicals.

    And without question, the only reason this tip was completely ignored by the Norwegian Police was due to the extreme anti-Muslim anti-Asian racism and anti-immigrant ethnic profiling mindset the Norwegian security system is based on where the skin color, eye color and hair color of the killer could immediately remove him from any and all suspicion.

  26. Brian,

    Chomsky never denies 911- al Qaeda connection.

    His contentions regarding this matter focus on other, different issues.

  27. You haven't been paying attention – PARTICULARLY to his (Chomsky's) writings since the death of his admirer- Osama Bin Laden.

  28. You haven’t been paying attention – PARTICULARLY to his (Chomsky’s) writings since the death of his admirer- Osama Bin Laden.

  29. When one criticizes America's path in her Terror War, it doesn't mean he follows the way of the opposite camp.

    It is not "Us" or "Them".

    That way of reasoning is limited to sectarians, not thinkers.

  30. Breivik is the West's harvest.

    Fruit not root.

    Spawn of the new Crusades — cultural, legislative, settler – military.

    From Palestine to Iraq, AfPak, Somalia & Yemen, now Libya…..

    From cartoons through veil & minaret bans to widening global war, the chickens head home & hatch.

    Always, throughout globalized histories.

    Remote triggerings, tsunamis hitting distant coasts.

    Universal Natural Law .

  31. Historical laws, independent of Will.

    We collectively unleash.

    We can also collectively channel them back to Balance.

  32. When one criticizes America’s path in her Terror War, it doesn’t mean he follows the way of the opposite camp.

    It is not “Us” or “Them”.

    That way of reasoning is limited to sectarians, not thinkers.

  33. Breivik is the West’s harvest.

    Fruit not root.

    Spawn of the new Crusades — cultural, legislative, settler – military.

    From Palestine to Iraq, AfPak, Somalia & Yemen, now Libya…..

    From cartoons through veil & minaret bans to widening global war, the chickens head home & hatch.

    Always, throughout globalized histories.

    Remote triggerings, tsunamis hitting distant coasts.

    Universal Natural Law .

  34. Historical laws, independent of Will.

    We collectively unleash.

    We can also collectively channel them back to Balance.

  35. You can critize all you want – just be honest, truthful and full of knowledge.

  36. This is truly admirable. Now if they would just stop slaughtering dolphins up in the Faroe islands for fun, Norway would not have a black eye when they speak.

  37. Sedna:

    Norway can go nuke the bloody dolphins for all I care.

    This blog is about the cruel mass murder of 80 mostly young people, not Afghanistan and not marine life for crying out loud. .

    Get a life, please.

  38. This is truly admirable. Now if they would just stop slaughtering dolphins up in the Faroe islands for fun, Norway would not have a black eye when they speak.

  39. Sedna:

    Norway can go nuke the bloody dolphins for all I care.

    This blog is about the cruel mass murder of 80 mostly young people, not Afghanistan and not marine life for crying out loud. .

    Get a life, please.

  40. Dear Sedna,

    THANK YOU for telling us about the butchering of the dolphins.

    Nothing is relative, but everything is Related.

    Norway isn't an island, neither is Breivik.

    People are making the connections, each from her vision.

    In crisis, we need as wholistic a portrait of Norway as we can get.

    Every piece of the puzzle …. necessary.

    Norway's image as "peace loving" innocent is being replaced.

  41. Breivik isn't alone.

    He sees Europe & Norway at war … with Barbarism.

    Norway's troops … in Iraq.

    Norway's military … in Afghanistan.

    Norway's warships bombing … Libya.

    Norway … with NATO, invading countries which didn't threaten Europe.

    Breivik … sees himself as part of Europe's world Crusade.

    So he urges a Neo Nazi alliance with … Israel.

    But why did he kill Norwegians ?

    Because they were "traitors" to this Europe.

    Breivik's targets … the youth of the Labor Party who strongly uphold the Boycott – Divestment – Sanctions Campaign against Apartheid Israel.

    Israel will say, "We are not to blame if the Far Right loves us."

    But Israel / US / NATO themselves draw the battle lines, again & again.

    Breivik believes … Israel is Europe's outpost against the Dark Hordes.

    Like Theodor Herzl believed … a Jewish state will be the West's outpost against a barbaric Orient.

    This is the Europe growing up amidst the conflagrations Israel / US / NATO are spreading.

    All immigrants are seen as potential fifth columnists in this New Europe.

    The longer this Crusade, the more Breiviks it will create.

  42. Dear Sedna,

    THANK YOU for telling us about the butchering of the dolphins.

    Nothing is relative, but everything is Related.

    Norway isn’t an island, neither is Breivik.

    People are making the connections, each from her vision.

    In crisis, we need as wholistic a portrait of Norway as we can get.

    Every piece of the puzzle …. necessary.

    Norway’s image as “peace loving” innocent is being replaced.

  43. The murderer, may his name be blotted out, also heaped massive praise on the racist ethnic immigration policies of Japan and South Korea dwarfing anything positive he may have said about Israel, he stated the highest regard for ruling Hindu party in India and said the one man he most admired on earth was Vladamir Putin of Russia, the great enemy of NATO. But you did not mention any of that for some funny reason, I wonder why?

    Savage, your typical propaganda tactic I have seen over the years is to selectively use what little evidence you can conjure up that you think supports your weak and silly point of view against all things Israel, and you then ignore everything else that is contrary, but using cherry picked statements from the insane ravings of an evil sadistic mass murdering madman who 60 years ago would have of course volunteered as a Nazi death camp guard, that is low for even you to stoop.

    The murderer as a matter of fact never visited Israel or came within thousands of kilometers from Israel in his life, and simply projected his own insane warped fantasy uninformed by even the semblance of reality onto Israel, a place he never so much as set foot in. In this respect, i.e. never letting a complete lack of even a scintilla of first hand factual knowledge prevent your endless bloviation, you A. Savage and the murderer are very much twins separated at birth.

    Racist xenophobic, Islamaphobic Europe has for years now been passing ever more disgraceful and racist laws banning such things as Islamic dress and construction of mosques and now produces a crazed mass murdering fiend who kills children because he cannot cope with his lily white fatherland's racial purity being polluted by %4 or %5 brown people

    Israel, not withstanding all the wars it has fought with the Arabs, at the same time has had for 60 years Arabic as an official state language fully equal to Hebrew, state funded Sharia Family Law courts, and has an Arab Supreme Court Justice, Arab Cabinet ministers, Arab Army generals and Arab Ambassadors, fully integrated hospitals staff, university student bodies and faculty, and commercial business with discrimination based on race or religion or the public spreading of religious or racial hatred severely punishable by laws that are regularly enforced. The democratic State of Israel with its full equal protection of all regardless of race or religion is not perfect just like anywhere else and still has has work to do of course, but compared to Europe, including Norway, Europe is 10 times more racist towards Arabs than Israel ever was.

    Answer me this, A. Savage: Do you think that if hypothetically given a person named Mohamed who was born in Pakistan, and the Polish police reported to the Norwegian Police that this Mohamed bought unusually large quantities of possibly explosive chemicals on line, and he had no rational explanation or excuse for buying them do you think it would have all been ignored and the investigation closed immediately ?

    Because what is true is that the Norwegian Police did in fact ignore this tip they really did get about the murderer months before the attack solely because of his skin, hair and eye color and name.

  44. Breivik isn’t alone.

    He sees Europe & Norway at war … with Barbarism.

    Norway’s troops … in Iraq.

    Norway’s military … in Afghanistan.

    Norway’s warships bombing … Libya.

    Norway … with NATO, invading countries which didn’t threaten Europe.

    Breivik … sees himself as part of Europe’s world Crusade.

    So he urges a Neo Nazi alliance with … Israel.

    But why did he kill Norwegians ?

    Because they were “traitors” to this Europe.

    Breivik’s targets … the youth of the Labor Party who strongly uphold the Boycott – Divestment – Sanctions Campaign against Apartheid Israel.

    Israel will say, “We are not to blame if the Far Right loves us.”

    But Israel / US / NATO themselves draw the battle lines, again & again.

    Breivik believes … Israel is Europe’s outpost against the Dark Hordes.

    Like Theodor Herzl believed … a Jewish state will be the West’s outpost against a barbaric Orient.

    This is the Europe growing up amidst the conflagrations Israel / US / NATO are spreading.

    All immigrants are seen as potential fifth columnists in this New Europe.

    The longer this Crusade, the more Breiviks it will create.

  45. The murderer, may his name be blotted out, also heaped massive praise on the racist ethnic immigration policies of Japan and South Korea dwarfing anything positive he may have said about Israel, he stated the highest regard for ruling Hindu party in India and said the one man he most admired on earth was Vladamir Putin of Russia, the great enemy of NATO. But you did not mention any of that for some funny reason, I wonder why?

    Savage, your typical propaganda tactic I have seen over the years is to selectively use what little evidence you can conjure up that you think supports your weak and silly point of view against all things Israel, and you then ignore everything else that is contrary, but using cherry picked statements from the insane ravings of an evil sadistic mass murdering madman who 60 years ago would have of course volunteered as a Nazi death camp guard, that is low for even you to stoop.

    The murderer as a matter of fact never visited Israel or came within thousands of kilometers from Israel in his life, and simply projected his own insane warped fantasy uninformed by even the semblance of reality onto Israel, a place he never so much as set foot in. In this respect, i.e. never letting a complete lack of even a scintilla of first hand factual knowledge prevent your endless bloviation, you A. Savage and the murderer are very much twins separated at birth.

    Racist xenophobic, Islamaphobic Europe has for years now been passing ever more disgraceful and racist laws banning such things as Islamic dress and construction of mosques and now produces a crazed mass murdering fiend who kills children because he cannot cope with his lily white fatherland’s racial purity being polluted by %4 or %5 brown people

    Israel, not withstanding all the wars it has fought with the Arabs, at the same time has had for 60 years Arabic as an official state language fully equal to Hebrew, state funded Sharia Family Law courts, and has an Arab Supreme Court Justice, Arab Cabinet ministers, Arab Army generals and Arab Ambassadors, fully integrated hospitals staff, university student bodies and faculty, and commercial business with discrimination based on race or religion or the public spreading of religious or racial hatred severely punishable by laws that are regularly enforced. The democratic State of Israel with its full equal protection of all regardless of race or religion is not perfect just like anywhere else and still has has work to do of course, but compared to Europe, including Norway, Europe is 10 times more racist towards Arabs than Israel ever was.

    Answer me this, A. Savage: Do you think that if hypothetically given a person named Mohamed who was born in Pakistan, and the Polish police reported to the Norwegian Police that this Mohamed bought unusually large quantities of possibly explosive chemicals on line, and he had no rational explanation or excuse for buying them do you think it would have all been ignored and the investigation closed immediately ?

    Because what is true is that the Norwegian Police did in fact ignore this tip they really did get about the murderer months before the attack solely because of his skin, hair and eye color and name.

  46. In response to Brian's remark:

    'You haven’t been paying attention – PARTICULARLY to his (Chomsky’s) writings since the death of his admirer- Osama Bin Laden.'

    I would welcome an example.

  47. In response to Brian’s remark:

    ‘You haven’t been paying attention – PARTICULARLY to his (Chomsky’s) writings since the death of his admirer- Osama Bin Laden.’

    I would welcome an example.

  48. A. Savage; I am eagerly awaiting for you to exploit this murder of children by attacking Japan next just like you did above to Israel.

    After all, the single most important foreign influence on the psycho killer's diseased mind clearly was not Israel but Japan, Japanese immigration policy being by far the most racist of any country on earth.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/02/norwa

    'he also wanted to be investigated by Japanese specialists."

    "He claims the Japanese understand the idea and values of honour and that a Japanese [specialist] would understand him a lot better than any European would."

  49. A. Savage; I am eagerly awaiting for you to exploit this murder of children by attacking Japan next just like you did above to Israel.

    After all, the single most important foreign influence on the psycho killer's diseased mind clearly was not Israel but Japan, Japanese immigration policy being by far the most racist of any country on earth.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/02/norwa

    'he also wanted to be investigated by Japanese specialists."

    "He claims the Japanese understand the idea and values of honour and that a Japanese [specialist] would understand him a lot better than any European would."

  50. A. Savage; I am eagerly awaiting for you to exploit this murder of children by attacking Japan next just like you did above to Israel.

    After all, the single most important foreign influence on the psycho killer's diseased mind clearly was not Israel but Japan, Japanese immigration policy being by far the most racist of any country on earth.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/02/norwa

    'he also wanted to be investigated by Japanese specialists."

    "He claims the Japanese understand the idea and values of honour and that a Japanese [specialist] would understand him a lot better than any European would."

  51. A. Savage; I am eagerly awaiting for you to exploit this murder of children by attacking Japan next just like you did above to Israel.

    After all, the single most important foreign influence on the psycho killer’s diseased mind clearly was not Israel but Japan, Japanese immigration policy being by far the most racist of any country on earth.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/02/norway-gunman-anders-behring-brevik-demands

    ‘he also wanted to be investigated by Japanese specialists.”

    “He claims the Japanese understand the idea and values of honour and that a Japanese [specialist] would understand him a lot better than any European would.”

  52. @Simon Maghakyan: Thank you so much for this beautiful posting:-)
    @Sedna: Norway do not kill dolphins in Færøyene. We hunt one type of whale called vågehval and it is not threatened.

  53. @Simon Maghakyan: Thank you so much for this beautiful posting:-)
    @Sedna: Norway do not kill dolphins in Færøyene. We hunt one type of whale called vågehval and it is not threatened.

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