Sri Lanka: international investigation still needed

Human Rights Watch said something on Sri Lanka yesterday at the UN Human Rights Council that bears repeating:

“Additionally, the Council should establish an independent international investigation into violations of international humanitarian law during the fighting between the government and the LTTE.”

Amnesty International has been calling for such an investigation for some time.  Thousands of civilians were killed in the last stages of the fighting between the Sri Lankan government and the opposition Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE).  Amnesty has received testimonies that both the Sri Lankan security forces and the LTTE were responsible for severe violations of international human rights and humanitarian law, including war crimes, during the fighting.  The Sri Lankan government had promised the UN in a joint statement in late May to investigate those violations, but since then nothing has been done by the Sri Lankan government to fulfill those promises.  Yesterday, a UN official said that the UN was concerned about the lack of progess on this issue, among others in Sri Lanka.  The UN should establish an international investigation now.

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522 thoughts on “Sri Lanka: international investigation still needed

  1. Jim,

    GOSL reply should be very short: "after you, old chap".

    First USA and UK are investigated by the UN for causing huge civilian deaths in their little wars.

    Here's my rough reckoning of civilians killed due to Western bloc military action.

    Gulf War 1: 50,000+ civilian deaths? (4k from direct action and 45k+ from post-war sanctions.)
    Gulf War 2: another 50,000+ civilian deaths?
    Afghanistan: 10,000+ dead civilians?

    Approx total = 110,000+ civilian deaths, plus in Iraq's case, the near complete destruction of previously functioning country. Hmmmm.

    Let's see if AI and HRW have got the balls to go after the Western Bloc nations before Sri Lanka.

  2. Jim,

    GOSL reply should be very short: “after you, old chap”.

    First USA and UK are investigated by the UN for causing huge civilian deaths in their little wars.

    Here’s my rough reckoning of civilians killed due to Western bloc military action.

    Gulf War 1: 50,000+ civilian deaths? (4k from direct action and 45k+ from post-war sanctions.)
    Gulf War 2: another 50,000+ civilian deaths?
    Afghanistan: 10,000+ dead civilians?

    Approx total = 110,000+ civilian deaths, plus in Iraq’s case, the near complete destruction of previously functioning country. Hmmmm.

    Let’s see if AI and HRW have got the balls to go after the Western Bloc nations before Sri Lanka.

  3. In response to Mango's comment, as I've said elsewhere, those interested in AI's documents on human rights violations in other countries, such as Iraq or Afghanistan, should review the pages on those countries in the AIUSA website. In general, I do not find persuasive any argument that attempts to change the subject from human rights abuses in Sri Lanka to abuses in some other country. Changing the subject doesn't address the violations in Sri Lanka; it seems to be saying for some reason not related to Sri Lanka, it's okay for the violations in Sri Lanka to occur.

  4. In response to Mango’s comment, as I’ve said elsewhere, those interested in AI’s documents on human rights violations in other countries, such as Iraq or Afghanistan, should review the pages on those countries in the AIUSA website. In general, I do not find persuasive any argument that attempts to change the subject from human rights abuses in Sri Lanka to abuses in some other country. Changing the subject doesn’t address the violations in Sri Lanka; it seems to be saying for some reason not related to Sri Lanka, it’s okay for the violations in Sri Lanka to occur.

  5. Jim,

    Only a fool would deny that there have not been HR abuses in SL. The best example is the necessary but brutal quelling of the 2nd JVP insurrection in the 1980s. This exclusively Singhalese Pol-Pot style organisation was only crushed with 60,000+ deaths. The HR abuses committed during this period saved SL from becoming a second Cambodia.

    My point is simple. The scale of Western bloc HR abuses (measured by unnecessary civilians deaths in illegal wars, abductions, death squads etc) is so huge, they dwarf the HR abuses in SL.

    Being lectured to about HR abuses by the West and Western HR organisations is a bit like King Herod being put in charge of ante-natal care. So, unless and until the West puts itself in the dock and shows that its' leaders answer for their own massive and continuing HR abuses, the idea of SL being made to answer for its own abuses is a non-starter.

    We both know that HR is simply the latest stick with which to beat recalcitrant (poor) countries to accept Western geopolitical & realpolitik objectives.

    Comparison and equity are perfectly proper. Let's see the UN and UNHCR apply the same standards to the West. I've got better odds of winning the lottery than that happening.

  6. In response to Vichara's comment of Sept. 18, 6:45 A.M., I would suggest that a review of the AI reports and public statements over the past year (available on the AIUSA website) would show that AI has repeatedly said that the LTTE was violating international humanitarian law, including committing war crimes, by using civilians as human shields. A review of my blog posts earlier this year would also show that.

    In response to Mango's comment of Sept. 18, 3:52 A.M., I would say that to accept the argument made in that comment would effectively shut down all human rights work. If you review the AI annual reports, you will see entries on most, if not all, countries. To decide not to work on human rights abuses in one country because someone feels that human rights abuses in another country are not being properly addressed is simply a way of opposing work on behalf of human rights in general. AI has never accepted that argument; I don't either.

  7. When AI makes the statement that"Amnesty has received testimonies that both the Sri Lankan security forces and the LTTE were responsible for severe violations of international human rights and humanitarian law, including war crimes, during the fighting." it is an attempt to show that they are even handed.

    Did AI show the same enthusiasm on violations of HR and the International conventions on hostages, when the LTTE herded Tamil civilians for hundreds of miles from Mannar to Mullaitivu and used them as a human shield?
    When the international community makes a huge noise about malnutrition in the IDP camps, do they take into consideration the kind of food they had when they were with the LTTE.(one meal of rice porridge). In one AI blog, a critic of the government and the conditions of the IDP camps made the boast that the LTTE provided 1000 toilets for the civilians with them. !000 toilets for 300,000 people. What a magnificent service.

    The AI is madly keen on investigations only with one purpose, that is to penalize the GOSL. They would not have insisted on investigations if the LTTE was still in existence.
    AI should not forget that penalizing the GOSL is penalizing the vast majority of the people of Sri Lanka.

  8. Jim,

    By all means carry on your sterling work exposing HR abuses from across the world. I have no argument with that and I'm sure AI's activities are invaluable in many cases. And to be fair to AI, it has often highlighted the worst HR abuses of the now-defunct LTTE.

    My point in not that AI shouldn't actively highlight HR abuses in SL – it must and should continue to do this – but only that the generally accepted principle of equity be applied to SL HR abuses.

    In the last decade, the West's HR abuses, in pursuit of its' own commercial, strategic and defence interests are demonstrably worse than Sri Lanka's by almost any measure you care to name.

    So let the Western bloc countries currently engaged in anti-terror campagins (for ease of comparison with Sri Lanka) subject themselves to the same committees of enquiry that Sri Lanka is threatened with.

    I would be bitterly disappointed if AI, HRW, UNHCR and the rest were not straining every sinew to expedite this process.

  9. Jim,

    Only a fool would deny that there have not been HR abuses in SL. The best example is the necessary but brutal quelling of the 2nd JVP insurrection in the 1980s. This exclusively Singhalese Pol-Pot style organisation was only crushed with 60,000+ deaths. The HR abuses committed during this period saved SL from becoming a second Cambodia.

    My point is simple. The scale of Western bloc HR abuses (measured by unnecessary civilians deaths in illegal wars, abductions, death squads etc) is so huge, they dwarf the HR abuses in SL.

    Being lectured to about HR abuses by the West and Western HR organisations is a bit like King Herod being put in charge of ante-natal care. So, unless and until the West puts itself in the dock and shows that its’ leaders answer for their own massive and continuing HR abuses, the idea of SL being made to answer for its own abuses is a non-starter.

    We both know that HR is simply the latest stick with which to beat recalcitrant (poor) countries to accept Western geopolitical & realpolitik objectives.

    Comparison and equity are perfectly proper. Let’s see the UN and UNHCR apply the same standards to the West. I’ve got better odds of winning the lottery than that happening.

  10. When AI makes the statement that”Amnesty has received testimonies that both the Sri Lankan security forces and the LTTE were responsible for severe violations of international human rights and humanitarian law, including war crimes, during the fighting.” it is an attempt to show that they are even handed.

    Did AI show the same enthusiasm on violations of HR and the International conventions on hostages, when the LTTE herded Tamil civilians for hundreds of miles from Mannar to Mullaitivu and used them as a human shield?
    When the international community makes a huge noise about malnutrition in the IDP camps, do they take into consideration the kind of food they had when they were with the LTTE.(one meal of rice porridge). In one AI blog, a critic of the government and the conditions of the IDP camps made the boast that the LTTE provided 1000 toilets for the civilians with them. !000 toilets for 300,000 people. What a magnificent service.

    The AI is madly keen on investigations only with one purpose, that is to penalize the GOSL. They would not have insisted on investigations if the LTTE was still in existence.
    AI should not forget that penalizing the GOSL is penalizing the vast majority of the people of Sri Lanka.

  11. In response to Vichara’s comment of Sept. 18, 6:45 A.M., I would suggest that a review of the AI reports and public statements over the past year (available on the AIUSA website) would show that AI has repeatedly said that the LTTE was violating international humanitarian law, including committing war crimes, by using civilians as human shields. A review of my blog posts earlier this year would also show that.

    In response to Mango’s comment of Sept. 18, 3:52 A.M., I would say that to accept the argument made in that comment would effectively shut down all human rights work. If you review the AI annual reports, you will see entries on most, if not all, countries. To decide not to work on human rights abuses in one country because someone feels that human rights abuses in another country are not being properly addressed is simply a way of opposing work on behalf of human rights in general. AI has never accepted that argument; I don’t either.

  12. Jim,

    By all means carry on your sterling work exposing HR abuses from across the world. I have no argument with that and I’m sure AI’s activities are invaluable in many cases. And to be fair to AI, it has often highlighted the worst HR abuses of the now-defunct LTTE.

    My point in not that AI shouldn’t actively highlight HR abuses in SL – it must and should continue to do this – but only that the generally accepted principle of equity be applied to SL HR abuses.

    In the last decade, the West’s HR abuses, in pursuit of its’ own commercial, strategic and defence interests are demonstrably worse than Sri Lanka’s by almost any measure you care to name.

    So let the Western bloc countries currently engaged in anti-terror campagins (for ease of comparison with Sri Lanka) subject themselves to the same committees of enquiry that Sri Lanka is threatened with.

    I would be bitterly disappointed if AI, HRW, UNHCR and the rest were not straining every sinew to expedite this process.

  13. In response to Mango's comment of Sept. 18, 8:56 A.M., I would say:
    1. The comment refers to a "generally accepted principle of equity" – I'm not aware of such a principle. The implication, again, seems to be that one cannot carry out human rights work on a particular country unless one has also undertaken a certain amount of human rights work on certain other countries. AI has never, to my knowledge, accepted any precondition as to how it does its work.
    2. Those interested in AI's work on other countries are encouraged to visit the relevant country pages on the AIUSA website.

  14. In response to Mango’s comment of Sept. 18, 8:56 A.M., I would say:
    1. The comment refers to a “generally accepted principle of equity” – I’m not aware of such a principle. The implication, again, seems to be that one cannot carry out human rights work on a particular country unless one has also undertaken a certain amount of human rights work on certain other countries. AI has never, to my knowledge, accepted any precondition as to how it does its work.
    2. Those interested in AI’s work on other countries are encouraged to visit the relevant country pages on the AIUSA website.

  15. Reference- Vichara
    September 11th, 2009 at 2:08 am

    Why you stole the Alfonso pen name?
    ( Reference-Alfonso
    September 11th, 2009 at 2:07 am)

    Vichara

    Are you suffering from multiple personality disorder ?
    That’s nasty !!!

    ***************
    Police brutality in Sri Lanka

    1600 political prisoners arrested on suspicion under Emergency Regulations (ER) and Prevention of Terrorism Act (PTA), languishing in various prisons in Sri Lanka for several years without being produced in the courts.

    Recently, some political prisoners launched a hunger strike as their requests placed in previous hunger strikes had not been taken into consideration despite promises by legal authorities that their cases will be taken for trial.

    In response the Sri Lankan Government brutally put down the hunger striking detainees.

    They were severely assaulted some of them had sustained injuries in the episode

  16. Mango

    I hope you noticed we are on “Sri Lanka: international investigation still needed” thread and here we are discussing the HUMAN RIGHTS abuses in Sri Lanka?

    So there is no need to unnecessarily attack Honorable Jim McDonald on this issue here.

    You are completely OFF TOPIC !!!!!!!

  17. Reference Mango

    September 17th, 2009 at 11:06 am

    First USA and UK are investigated by the UN for causing huge civilian deaths in their little wars………Let’s see if AI and HRW have got the balls to go after the Western Bloc nations before Sri Lanka.

    Mango
    And again you are off topic .
    Yet another distracting technique to avoid the issue on hand.
    Why is it that whenever the topic of an independent international investigation into violations of international humanitarian law during the Sri Lankan civil war on this fine forum is brought to attention, narrow minded people choose to dig up the past.

    Just because the USA and UK may have causing huge civilian deaths elsewhere, does not justify the brutal actions of the Sri Lankan Army ( SLA).

    Although many terrible things have happened in the past, there is no justification for the atrocious treatment of the innocent Tamil civilians

  18. Mawatha,

    I'm sure that Jim will be delighted with his elevation to 'Honourable' member status. Is this award to be conferred by the Transgendered Intergalatic Eelam Provisional Committee? I wouldn't dream of attacking Jim. Show us one instance of me attacking him.

    My position is perfectly clear, even to an Eelamtard like you still trying to come to terms with the crushing of your 30+ year dream of establishing a racist, fascistic mini statelet in Sri Lanka. I can only imagine how hard it must be for you poor Eelamists.

    Who doesn't recall the fluttering flags of Eelam Police stations, Eelam cops with radar detectors, Eelam courts dispensing wise judgements, happy Eelam children in the Eelam schools and the Bank of Eelam offering excellent saving rates.

    Enjoyed that fantasy? It's gone. The mono-ethnic racist statelet is gone.

    What once was can be savoured here: http://www.tamilnation.org/tamileelam/defacto/ind

    So, those countries wishing to persecute HR abuses in SL can their own houses in order first, and subject themselves to the same committees of enquiry that Sri Lanka is threatened with. This is a perfectly valid and logical position to take.

    And further, all supporters of LTTE terror, currently living in the West are also subject to the same process.

    I'm sure AI has large dossiers on hand for the UK, USA, EU etc.

  19. Mawatha,

    I'm sure that Jim will be delighted with his elevation to 'Honourable' member status. Is this award to be conferred by the Transgendered Intergalatic Eelam Provisional Committee? I wouldn't dream of attacking Jim. Show us one instance of me attacking him.

    My position is perfectly clear, even to an Eelamtard like you still trying to come to terms with the crushing of your 30+ year dream of establishing a racist, fascistic mini statelet in Sri Lanka. I can only imagine how hard it must be for you poor Eelamists.

    Who doesn't recall the fluttering flags of Eelam Police stations, Eelam cops with radar detectors, Eelam courts dispensing wise judgements, happy Eelam children in the Eelam schools and the Bank of Eelam offering excellent saving rates.

    Enjoyed that fantasy? It's gone. The mono-ethnic racist statelet is gone.

    What once was can be savoured here: http://www.tamilnation.org/tamileelam/defacto/ind

    So, those countries wishing to persecute HR abuses in SL can their own houses in order first, and subject themselves to the same committees of enquiry that Sri Lanka is threatened with. This is a perfectly valid and logical position to take.

    And further, all supporters of LTTE terror, currently living in the West are also subject to the same process.

    I'm sure AI has large dossiers on hand for the UK, USA, EU etc.

  20. Mawatha,

    I'm sure that Jim will be delighted with his elevation to 'Honourable' member status. Is this award to be conferred by the Transgendered Intergalatic Eelam Provisional Committee? I wouldn't dream of attacking Jim. Show us one instance of me attacking him.

    My position is perfectly clear, even to an Eelamtard like you still trying to come to terms with the crushing of your 30+ year dream of establishing a racist, fascistic mini statelet in Sri Lanka. I can only imagine how hard it must be for you poor Eelamists.

    Who doesn't recall the fluttering flags of Eelam Police stations, Eelam cops with radar detectors, Eelam courts dispensing wise judgements, happy Eelam children in the Eelam schools and the Bank of Eelam offering excellent saving rates.

    Enjoyed that fantasy? It's gone. The mono-ethnic racist statelet is gone.

    What once was can be savoured here: http://www.tamilnation.org/tamileelam/defacto/ind

    So, those countries wishing to persecute HR abuses in SL can their own houses in order first, and subject themselves to the same committees of enquiry that Sri Lanka is threatened with. This is a perfectly valid and logical position to take.

    And further, all supporters of LTTE terror, currently living in the West are also subject to the same process.

    I'm sure AI has large dossiers on hand for the UK, USA, EU etc.

  21. Mango

    I hope you noticed we are on “Sri Lanka: international investigation still needed” thread and here we are discussing the HUMAN RIGHTS abuses in Sri Lanka?

    So there is no need to unnecessarily attack Honorable Jim McDonald on this issue here.

    You are completely OFF TOPIC !!!!!!!

  22. Reference Mango

    September 17th, 2009 at 11:06 am

    First USA and UK are investigated by the UN for causing huge civilian deaths in their little wars………Let’s see if AI and HRW have got the balls to go after the Western Bloc nations before Sri Lanka.

    Mango
    And again you are off topic .
    Yet another distracting technique to avoid the issue on hand.
    Why is it that whenever the topic of an independent international investigation into violations of international humanitarian law during the Sri Lankan civil war on this fine forum is brought to attention, narrow minded people choose to dig up the past.

    Just because the USA and UK may have causing huge civilian deaths elsewhere, does not justify the brutal actions of the Sri Lankan Army ( SLA).

    Although many terrible things have happened in the past, there is no justification for the atrocious treatment of the innocent Tamil civilians

  23. Reference- Vichara
    September 11th, 2009 at 2:08 am

    Why you stole the Alfonso pen name?
    ( Reference-Alfonso
    September 11th, 2009 at 2:07 am)

    Vichara

    Are you suffering from multiple personality disorder ?
    That’s nasty !!!

    ***************
    Police brutality in Sri Lanka

    1600 political prisoners arrested on suspicion under Emergency Regulations (ER) and Prevention of Terrorism Act (PTA), languishing in various prisons in Sri Lanka for several years without being produced in the courts.

    Recently, some political prisoners launched a hunger strike as their requests placed in previous hunger strikes had not been taken into consideration despite promises by legal authorities that their cases will be taken for trial.

    In response the Sri Lankan Government brutally put down the hunger striking detainees.

    They were severely assaulted some of them had sustained injuries in the episode

  24. Mawatha,

    I’m sure that Jim will be delighted with his elevation to ‘Honourable’ member status. Is this award to be conferred by the Transgendered Intergalatic Eelam Provisional Committee? I wouldn’t dream of attacking Jim. Show us one instance of me attacking him.

    My position is perfectly clear, even to an Eelamtard like you still trying to come to terms with the crushing of your 30+ year dream of establishing a racist, fascistic mini statelet in Sri Lanka. I can only imagine how hard it must be for you poor Eelamists.

    Who doesn’t recall the fluttering flags of Eelam Police stations, Eelam cops with radar detectors, Eelam courts dispensing wise judgements, happy Eelam children in the Eelam schools and the Bank of Eelam offering excellent saving rates.

    Enjoyed that fantasy? It’s gone. The mono-ethnic racist statelet is gone.

    What once was can be savoured here:
    http://www.tamilnation.org/tamileelam/defacto/index.htm

    So, those countries wishing to persecute HR abuses in SL can their own houses in order first, and subject themselves to the same committees of enquiry that Sri Lanka is threatened with. This is a perfectly valid and logical position to take.

    And further, all supporters of LTTE terror, currently living in the West are also subject to the same process.

    I’m sure AI has large dossiers on hand for the UK, USA, EU etc.

  25. Reference-Mango
    September 19th, 2009 at 4:19 am

    Mango !

    I am shocked that you choose to turn your back on the Sri Lankan Government obvious war crimes that are occurring within the concentration camps.

    I cannot understand how a country that practices Buddhism as a religion- one of the most peaceful in the world- can kill innocents; strip any human beings of all their dignity.

    Thamil’s rights have been removed, and they live as animals in the concentration camps.

    All of this is forced upon them by the Government of Sri Lanka and the Sri Lankan Army while the Sinhalese majority lives a civilized life.

    There is no compassion or humanity being practiced by the Sri Lankan Government of Rajapaksa in Sri Lanka, although this is what their Buddhist religion calls for.
    What kind of rubbish are you speaking?
    What is this the Transgendered Intergalatic Eelam Provisional Committee?
    This is nothing short of ridiculous statements you usually manufacture her !!!!!!!
    Why are you still ignoring the bloodthirsty actions of the Sri Lankan Army, who were simply trying to overpower the country, land grabbing and terrorizing?

    Sri Lanka Army promises to be the “liberators” fell short, instead becoming occupiers.

    Sri Lankan Government promised to free the hostages – but their ‘massive hostage rescue’ simply reshuffled the innocent Tamil civilians to be prisoners from one place to another.

    300,000 people forced behind barbed wire fences, living in squalor, appalling, unsanitary conditions, starving, disease ridden, emotionally and physically abused- this is not shelter provided by a “caring” Sri Lankan Government , rather a mass prison to innocent Thamil men, women and children.

    The IDPs are not war criminals, but war victims !!

  26. Reference-Mango
    September 19th, 2009 at 4:19 am

    Mango !

    I am shocked that you choose to turn your back on the Sri Lankan Government obvious war crimes that are occurring within the concentration camps.

    I cannot understand how a country that practices Buddhism as a religion- one of the most peaceful in the world- can kill innocents; strip any human beings of all their dignity.

    Thamil’s rights have been removed, and they live as animals in the concentration camps.

    All of this is forced upon them by the Government of Sri Lanka and the Sri Lankan Army while the Sinhalese majority lives a civilized life.

    There is no compassion or humanity being practiced by the Sri Lankan Government of Rajapaksa in Sri Lanka, although this is what their Buddhist religion calls for.
    What kind of rubbish are you speaking?
    What is this the Transgendered Intergalatic Eelam Provisional Committee?
    This is nothing short of ridiculous statements you usually manufacture her !!!!!!!
    Why are you still ignoring the bloodthirsty actions of the Sri Lankan Army, who were simply trying to overpower the country, land grabbing and terrorizing?

    Sri Lanka Army promises to be the “liberators” fell short, instead becoming occupiers.

    Sri Lankan Government promised to free the hostages – but their ‘massive hostage rescue’ simply reshuffled the innocent Tamil civilians to be prisoners from one place to another.

    300,000 people forced behind barbed wire fences, living in squalor, appalling, unsanitary conditions, starving, disease ridden, emotionally and physically abused- this is not shelter provided by a “caring” Sri Lankan Government , rather a mass prison to innocent Thamil men, women and children.

    The IDPs are not war criminals, but war victims !!

  27. Mawatha,

    Please stop with your hysterical Eelamtard ranting. It doesn't illuminate the issue at hand. Look back through my previous postings for answers to your insane ramblings about 'concentration camps'. The SLA, for your information is now the only armed force in the country. It doesn't need to 'grab' land. The entire country belongs to all Sri Lankans, regardless of ethnicity and religion — except for Eelamists nursing fantasies of an ethnically 'pure' statelet.

    Provisional Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam (PTGTE = Peelam Tamils Get Taken Everyday). Apologies for calling it Transgendered Intergalatic Eelam Provisional Committee.

    The IDPs will be settled back to their homes, when they've been screened, sufficient de-mining has occurred and hard-core elements identified and removed for safe keeping. Security considerations unfortunately will trump all other concerns.

    The IDPs are indeed war victims. The LTTE are primarily responsible for using them as shrapnel sponges and thus getting them into this situation. Perhaps you should have a chat with your friends in PTGTE and ask for their apologies?

    p.s.you forgot to accuse SL govt and armed forces of 'genocide'. Don't forget to include 'genocide' into every paragraph.

    Dear Jim,

    I know you're busy documenting HR abuses in SL (so many abuses, such little time), but please don't forget my request for answers to my original questions about sources of AI funding; i.e. how much direct & indirect funding comes from the EU (and UK) and USA governments.

    I'm curious to see know that AI is 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests.'

  28. Dear Honorable Jim McDonald !

    Millions of Tamils worldwide are praying for you every day!! Please continue to document Human Rights abuses in Sri Lanka

    God Bless you !!!

    *********************
    Dear misguided , brainwashed Mango !!

    You come across as an educated man and as such I cannot understand why you have chosen to jump on the propaganda bandwagon… this just does not seem to add up.

    You think you are informed, however I think your educator may have been biased.

    There have been many journalists killed for trying to report the truth to the world.

    The Sri Lankan Government as well as the SLA is corrupt and focused on ruling rather than serving.

    There are numerous reported cases of murder and rape of the Tamil people by the Sri Lankan Army.

    If it were your mother, daughter, father or brother would you be so willing to back the monsters responsible?

    Would you turn your back on the truth and allow the propaganda to fill your mind?

    I could not imagine this being the case. And if you disagree with me on this, perhaps you should reevaluate your personal standards.

  29. Mawatha,

    If you read my original posts you'll realise that I have never denied the numerous HR abuses in SL. They are well known to all. My points are easy to understand.

    1. The degradation of rights has occurred due to Eelam Wars instigated and kept alive due to the intransigence of your LTTE. Your idiot Sun God missed his chance to get almost everything he asked for and predictably went for the 'Final Offensive'. If you supported that (including financial support), don't come crying after the LTTE's well-deserved annihilation.

    2. The utterly hypocritical and tainted West has no moral right to lecture SL when its' own conduct in anti-terror wars makes its' hectoring pontification untenable.

    3. Wars always involve HR abuses. The objective is to end them as quickly as possible, which is what finally happened in SL after 30+years of stop-start & advice from the West about reaching a settlement with the fascistic LTTE.

    The corruption in the SL govt and SLA are well known. But you'll know that under Gen. Fonseka, the war-losing SLA has been transformed into a war-winning SLA. There have been many of arrests of corrupt SLA officers and men.

    I look forward to KP's interrogation resulting in many more arrests, including info about which NGOs and INGOs supported the LTTE. Hopefully, AI aren't amongst that list :)

    Almost every single family in SL, whatever their ethnicity has been affected by the JVP and Eelam Wars, so no-one has a monopoly on having had their rights abused by SL govt or SLA.

    By all means, keep agitating for War Crimes tribunals and the rest. Just make sure to include any supporters of the LTTE (including Western-based disaporas & supportive NGOs and governments e.g. the Norwegians) in your 'calling to account'.

    So which side are you on? A very imperfect SL govt dedicated to the maintenance of a multi-ethnic unitary state or a fascistic terror organisation dedicated to the creation of an 'ethnically pure, Tamil only mini state?

    p.s. if I was Jim, I'd be concerned about being called 'Honorable' by an LTTE supporter. This usually means they're after payback. It's like Don Corleone … "some day, and that day may never come, I may ask a favor of you."

  30. And what happened to Fonseka, I guess he is not ruthless for racist Sri Lanka Government?

    He should’ve killed the whole batch of 300,000 war crimes witnesses, rather than “diminutive “ 20,000 …..in Colombo Government eyes …

    ***********************************************************

    It will take an effort of global Tamils to keep exposing GOSL for war crimes.

    The international community (IC) has a track record of taking action extremely late.

    But take action-they will !!

    The prosecution of the Srebrenica Genocide gives me a lot of hope.

    Bruce Fein went as far to say that ‘Srebrenica and Darfur are like tea parties compared to Sri Lanka’

    Therefore the evidence is overwhelming.

    I must salute Francis Boyle and Bruce Fein. They have worked very hard to accumulate all the incidents and build up the evidence.

    The Sri Lankan war criminals will be prosecuted !!

  31. Mawatha,

    Please stop with your hysterical Eelamtard ranting. It doesn’t illuminate the issue at hand. Look back through my previous postings for answers to your insane ramblings about ‘concentration camps’. The SLA, for your information is now the only armed force in the country. It doesn’t need to ‘grab’ land. The entire country belongs to all Sri Lankans, regardless of ethnicity and religion — except for Eelamists nursing fantasies of an ethnically ‘pure’ statelet.

    Provisional Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam (PTGTE = Peelam Tamils Get Taken Everyday). Apologies for calling it Transgendered Intergalatic Eelam Provisional Committee.

    The IDPs will be settled back to their homes, when they’ve been screened, sufficient de-mining has occurred and hard-core elements identified and removed for safe keeping. Security considerations unfortunately will trump all other concerns.

    The IDPs are indeed war victims. The LTTE are primarily responsible for using them as shrapnel sponges and thus getting them into this situation. Perhaps you should have a chat with your friends in PTGTE and ask for their apologies?

    p.s.you forgot to accuse SL govt and armed forces of ‘genocide’. Don’t forget to include ‘genocide’ into every paragraph.

    Dear Jim,

    I know you’re busy documenting HR abuses in SL (so many abuses, such little time), but please don’t forget my request for answers to my original questions about sources of AI funding; i.e. how much direct & indirect funding comes from the EU (and UK) and USA governments.

    I’m curious to see know that AI is ‘completely independent from government, corporate or national interests.’

  32. Dear Mawatha,

    I see you avoid the difficult questions about LTTE culpability & responsibility in war-crimes and instead pin your hopes on your 'Great White Masters' (Fein, Boyle and the rest of 'Rescuing-the-LTTE Rent-a-mob') coming to help the Eelamtards.

    How much per month did you contribute to the 'Struggle' ? Was it a lot?

    If you want to see what your contributions purchased, the SLA are having an exhibition of captured LTTE arms for their 60th Anniversary at the BMICH 3-7th October. Tickets are priced at Rs. 200, Rs.500, Rs.1000 and Rs.2000. Perhaps you should go and have a look.

    Dream on, just dream on. How is Eelam these days? Is it windy or hot?

  33. Dear Honorable Jim McDonald !

    Millions of Tamils worldwide are praying for you every day!! Please continue to document Human Rights abuses in Sri Lanka

    God Bless you !!!

    *********************
    Dear misguided , brainwashed Mango !!

    You come across as an educated man and as such I cannot understand why you have chosen to jump on the propaganda bandwagon… this just does not seem to add up.

    You think you are informed, however I think your educator may have been biased.

    There have been many journalists killed for trying to report the truth to the world.

    The Sri Lankan Government as well as the SLA is corrupt and focused on ruling rather than serving.

    There are numerous reported cases of murder and rape of the Tamil people by the Sri Lankan Army.

    If it were your mother, daughter, father or brother would you be so willing to back the monsters responsible?

    Would you turn your back on the truth and allow the propaganda to fill your mind?

    I could not imagine this being the case. And if you disagree with me on this, perhaps you should reevaluate your personal standards.

  34. Mawatha,

    If you read my original posts you’ll realise that I have never denied the numerous HR abuses in SL. They are well known to all. My points are easy to understand.

    1. The degradation of rights has occurred due to Eelam Wars instigated and kept alive due to the intransigence of your LTTE. Your idiot Sun God missed his chance to get almost everything he asked for and predictably went for the ‘Final Offensive’. If you supported that (including financial support), don’t come crying after the LTTE’s well-deserved annihilation.

    2. The utterly hypocritical and tainted West has no moral right to lecture SL when its’ own conduct in anti-terror wars makes its’ hectoring pontification untenable.

    3. Wars always involve HR abuses. The objective is to end them as quickly as possible, which is what finally happened in SL after 30+years of stop-start & advice from the West about reaching a settlement with the fascistic LTTE.

    The corruption in the SL govt and SLA are well known. But you’ll know that under Gen. Fonseka, the war-losing SLA has been transformed into a war-winning SLA. There have been many of arrests of corrupt SLA officers and men.

    I look forward to KP’s interrogation resulting in many more arrests, including info about which NGOs and INGOs supported the LTTE. Hopefully, AI aren’t amongst that list :)

    Almost every single family in SL, whatever their ethnicity has been affected by the JVP and Eelam Wars, so no-one has a monopoly on having had their rights abused by SL govt or SLA.

    By all means, keep agitating for War Crimes tribunals and the rest. Just make sure to include any supporters of the LTTE (including Western-based disaporas & supportive NGOs and governments e.g. the Norwegians) in your ‘calling to account’.

    So which side are you on? A very imperfect SL govt dedicated to the maintenance of a multi-ethnic unitary state or a fascistic terror organisation dedicated to the creation of an ‘ethnically pure, Tamil only mini state?

    p.s. if I was Jim, I’d be concerned about being called ‘Honorable’ by an LTTE supporter. This usually means they’re after payback. It’s like Don Corleone … “some day, and that day may never come, I may ask a favor of you.”

  35. And what happened to Fonseka, I guess he is not ruthless for racist Sri Lanka Government?

    He should’ve killed the whole batch of 300,000 war crimes witnesses, rather than “diminutive “ 20,000 …..in Colombo Government eyes …

    ***********************************************************

    It will take an effort of global Tamils to keep exposing GOSL for war crimes.

    The international community (IC) has a track record of taking action extremely late.

    But take action-they will !!

    The prosecution of the Srebrenica Genocide gives me a lot of hope.

    Bruce Fein went as far to say that ‘Srebrenica and Darfur are like tea parties compared to Sri Lanka’

    Therefore the evidence is overwhelming.

    I must salute Francis Boyle and Bruce Fein. They have worked very hard to accumulate all the incidents and build up the evidence.

    The Sri Lankan war criminals will be prosecuted !!

  36. Dear Mawatha,

    I see you avoid the difficult questions about LTTE culpability & responsibility in war-crimes and instead pin your hopes on your ‘Great White Masters’ (Fein, Boyle and the rest of ‘Rescuing-the-LTTE Rent-a-mob’) coming to help the Eelamtards.

    How much per month did you contribute to the ‘Struggle’ ? Was it a lot?

    If you want to see what your contributions purchased, the SLA are having an exhibition of captured LTTE arms for their 60th Anniversary at the BMICH 3-7th October. Tickets are priced at Rs. 200, Rs.500, Rs.1000 and Rs.2000. Perhaps you should go and have a look.

    Dream on, just dream on. How is Eelam these days? Is it windy or hot?

  37. Mango,

    Thanks for reminding me about a SLA exhibition for their 60th Anniversary at the BMICH on 3-7th October.

    I’m surprised, they not exhibiting the dead LTTE combatants in rows upon rows..

    Such a shameful and disgusting barbarism !!! it’s inhuman to disrespect dead like that !!!!

    Sorry, I’m not interested in this kind of exhibition.

    Feast your eyes on Sri Lankan Army exhibition: http://www.athirvu.com/target_news.php?subaction=

    BTW I still contribute to the ‘Struggle’

    The struggle for the Human Rights of the Thamils will go on !! We will prevail !!

  38. Mango,

    Thanks for reminding me about a SLA exhibition for their 60th Anniversary at the BMICH on 3-7th October.

    I’m surprised, they not exhibiting the dead LTTE combatants in rows upon rows..

    Such a shameful and disgusting barbarism !!! it’s inhuman to disrespect dead like that !!!!

    Sorry, I’m not interested in this kind of exhibition.

    Feast your eyes on Sri Lankan Army exhibition: http://www.athirvu.com/target_news.php?subaction=

    BTW I still contribute to the ‘Struggle’

    The struggle for the Human Rights of the Thamils will go on !! We will prevail !!

  39. Mango,

    Thanks for reminding me about a SLA exhibition for their 60th Anniversary at the BMICH on 3-7th October.

    I’m surprised, they not exhibiting the dead LTTE combatants in rows upon rows..

    Such a shameful and disgusting barbarism !!! it’s inhuman to disrespect dead like that !!!!

    Sorry, I’m not interested in this kind of exhibition.

    Feast your eyes on Sri Lankan Army exhibition: http://www.athirvu.com/target_news.php?subaction=

    BTW I still contribute to the ‘Struggle’

    The struggle for the Human Rights of the Thamils will go on !! We will prevail !!

  40. Hi Mawath,

    You're saddened by the display of dead bodies? Gimme a break! Both sides did it. It was the only way to prove casualty figures to each other and the world. Look through Tamilnut and you'll find plenty of pix of dead SLA.

    Your LTTE combat porn videos showed even more gruesome pix of dead and dying SLA. Look through your collection if you're feeling nostalgic.

    What about your glorious LTTE liberators who captured Sgt Pathirana, tortured him and displayed his head at the Illupadichenai junction? Or how about the famous LTTE beheadings and hangings of Tamil 'traitors'?

    You really don't want to continue this atrocity exhibition game.

    You still weasel out of answering my question, so I'll ask again.

    Which side are you on? A very imperfect SL govt dedicated to the maintenance of a multi-ethnic unitary state or a fascistic terror organisation dedicated to the creation of an 'ethnically pure, Tamil-only mini state?

    If you are for a racially exclusive Tamil-only state, what are you doing about in the country you live in? Are you agitating for Tamil-only areas in London, Paris or Toronto or even Colombo? If not, why not? After all that's what you want through your 'struggle' isn't it?

    So Mawath, another very simple question. Did you contribute financially to the LTTE struggle? If you didn't, why not?

    Please also explain how your now-deceased Sun God increased and improved Tamils' Human Rights by conscripting children for the last-ditch defence of his Eelam fantasy and shooting at Tamil civilians trying to escape the Army lines.

    p.s. If you did contribute financially to the struggle, I hope you paid in cash. You know that KP's singing like a canary and revealing various LTTE bank account details. The useful thing about bank accounts is that non-cash payments leave a nice long paper trail. Perhaps even back to you.

    Yes, Eelam is most definitely around the corner. ©

  41. Horrific pictures of torture, rape and murder of female combatants who surrendered to brutal Sri Lankan Army http://www.warwithoutwitness.com/index.php?option

    SriLankan Army Sexually Abusing Tamil Female Combatants during bloody blood bath on vanni beaches on mid may 2009. These photos have been shot by Sri Lankan Army soldiers by Mobile Cameras ( K310i , W2001 and 5300 ) and released in a local sri lankan website as part of Sri Lankan Army Victory Campaign. These collection of photographs & Videos covers different incidents and different victims. The common thread among them is the sexual violence that had been practiced as a war strategy by Sri Lankan Government. It is clear evidence that sexual violence was a tool in the genocidal war and constitutes a war crime.

  42. Hot News! They've found Eelam!

    This is too good not to share with you, Mawatha. It's from a Tamil Swiss website.
    http://www.infotamil.ch/photos/top/general/eelam_

    The symbolism is incredible. Four LTTE cadres marooned on a rock in the middle of the ocean firing their guns at the sky. Talk about a Freudian slip. What were they thinking?

    Eelam really has been attained in Photoshop.

  43. Horrific pictures of torture, rape and murder of female combatants who surrendered to brutal Sri Lankan Army http://www.warwithoutwitness.com/index.php?option

    SriLankan Army Sexually Abusing Tamil Female Combatants during bloody blood bath on vanni beaches on mid may 2009. These photos have been shot by Sri Lankan Army soldiers by Mobile Cameras ( K310i , W2001 and 5300 ) and released in a local sri lankan website as part of Sri Lankan Army Victory Campaign. These collection of photographs & Videos covers different incidents and different victims. The common thread among them is the sexual violence that had been practiced as a war strategy by Sri Lankan Government. It is clear evidence that sexual violence was a tool in the genocidal war and constitutes a war crime.

  44. Horrific pictures of torture, rape and murder of female combatants who surrendered to brutal Sri Lankan Army http://www.warwithoutwitness.com/index.php?option

    SriLankan Army Sexually Abusing Tamil Female Combatants during bloody blood bath on vanni beaches on mid may 2009. These photos have been shot by Sri Lankan Army soldiers by Mobile Cameras ( K310i , W2001 and 5300 ) and released in a local sri lankan website as part of Sri Lankan Army Victory Campaign. These collection of photographs & Videos covers different incidents and different victims. The common thread among them is the sexual violence that had been practiced as a war strategy by Sri Lankan Government. It is clear evidence that sexual violence was a tool in the genocidal war and constitutes a war crime.

  45. Hey Mawatha,

    More pictures from your War Porn collection? More pictures of dead terrorists from an LTTE website that you expect us to believe were raped by SLA?

    Thanks for using 'genocide' at last. I was feeling bereft not reading that accusation from you. Shall we call this Battlefield Genocide ? © LTTE.

    Haven't you got any new faked execution videos for us?

    What are your views on the violence practiced by the LTTE on Tamil children who were forcibly recruited to fight for Eelam?

    Let me explain how this works. We answer each other's questions. I realise that being an Eelamtard, you aren't used to questioning and free thinking. Give it a try. You might learn something.

    Instead, you cut-n-paste to avoid answering my questions in case you have to admit something incriminating.

    Your refusal to answer my straightforward questions about your views on LTTE terror only proves that you are simply a LTTE terrorist supporter, on an AI blog, looking for support for the rotting corpse of your dead movement.

    Human Rights, indeed.

    Yes, Eelam is really close. I can smell it. ©

  46. Hot News! They've found Eelam!

    This is too good not to share with you, Mawatha. It's from a Tamil Swiss website.
    http://www.infotamil.ch/photos/top/general/eelam_

    The symbolism is incredible. Four LTTE cadres marooned on a rock in the middle of the ocean firing their guns at the sky. Talk about a Freudian slip. What were they thinking?

    Eelam really has been attained in Photoshop.

  47. Hot News! They've found Eelam!

    This is too good not to share with you, Mawatha. It's from a Tamil Swiss website.
    http://www.infotamil.ch/photos/top/general/eelam_

    The symbolism is incredible. Four LTTE cadres marooned on a rock in the middle of the ocean firing their guns at the sky. Talk about a Freudian slip. What were they thinking?

    Eelam really has been attained in Photoshop.

  48. Mango,

    Thanks for reminding me about a SLA exhibition for their 60th Anniversary at the BMICH on 3-7th October.

    I’m surprised, they not exhibiting the dead LTTE combatants in rows upon rows..

    Such a shameful and disgusting barbarism !!! it’s inhuman to disrespect dead like that !!!!

    Sorry, I’m not interested in this kind of exhibition.

    Feast your eyes on Sri Lankan Army exhibition:
    http://www.athirvu.com/target_news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1251539986&archive=&start_from=&ucat=17&

    BTW I still contribute to the ‘Struggle’

    The struggle for the Human Rights of the Thamils will go on !! We will prevail !!

  49. Hi Mawath,

    You’re saddened by the display of dead bodies? Gimme a break! Both sides did it. It was the only way to prove casualty figures to each other and the world. Look through Tamilnut and you’ll find plenty of pix of dead SLA.

    Your LTTE combat porn videos showed even more gruesome pix of dead and dying SLA. Look through your collection if you’re feeling nostalgic.

    What about your glorious LTTE liberators who captured Sgt Pathirana, tortured him and displayed his head at the Illupadichenai junction? Or how about the famous LTTE beheadings and hangings of Tamil ‘traitors’?

    You really don’t want to continue this atrocity exhibition game.

    You still weasel out of answering my question, so I’ll ask again.

    Which side are you on? A very imperfect SL govt dedicated to the maintenance of a multi-ethnic unitary state or a fascistic terror organisation dedicated to the creation of an ‘ethnically pure, Tamil-only mini state?

    If you are for a racially exclusive Tamil-only state, what are you doing about in the country you live in? Are you agitating for Tamil-only areas in London, Paris or Toronto or even Colombo? If not, why not? After all that’s what you want through your ‘struggle’ isn’t it?

    So Mawath, another very simple question. Did you contribute financially to the LTTE struggle? If you didn’t, why not?

    Please also explain how your now-deceased Sun God increased and improved Tamils’ Human Rights by conscripting children for the last-ditch defence of his Eelam fantasy and shooting at Tamil civilians trying to escape the Army lines.

    p.s. If you did contribute financially to the struggle, I hope you paid in cash. You know that KP’s singing like a canary and revealing various LTTE bank account details. The useful thing about bank accounts is that non-cash payments leave a nice long paper trail. Perhaps even back to you.

    Yes, Eelam is most definitely around the corner. ©

  50. Horrific pictures of torture, rape and murder of female combatants who surrendered to brutal Sri Lankan Army
    http://www.warwithoutwitness.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=226:sri-lankan-army-war-crime-evidence-photo-srilankan-army-sexually-abusing-tamil-female-combatants-during-bloody-blood-bath-on-vanni-beaches&catid=40:photo

    SriLankan Army Sexually Abusing Tamil Female Combatants during bloody blood bath on vanni beaches on mid may 2009. These photos have been shot by Sri Lankan Army soldiers by Mobile Cameras ( K310i , W2001 and 5300 ) and released in a local sri lankan website as part of Sri Lankan Army Victory Campaign. These collection of photographs & Videos covers different incidents and different victims. The common thread among them is the sexual violence that had been practiced as a war strategy by Sri Lankan Government. It is clear evidence that sexual violence was a tool in the genocidal war and constitutes a war crime.

  51. Hey Mawatha,

    More pictures from your War Porn collection? More pictures of dead terrorists from an LTTE website that you expect us to believe were raped by SLA?

    Thanks for using ‘genocide’ at last. I was feeling bereft not reading that accusation from you. Shall we call this Battlefield Genocide ? © LTTE.

    Haven’t you got any new faked execution videos for us?

    What are your views on the violence practiced by the LTTE on Tamil children who were forcibly recruited to fight for Eelam?

    Let me explain how this works. We answer each other’s questions. I realise that being an Eelamtard, you aren’t used to questioning and free thinking. Give it a try. You might learn something.

    Instead, you cut-n-paste to avoid answering my questions in case you have to admit something incriminating.

    Your refusal to answer my straightforward questions about your views on LTTE terror only proves that you are simply a LTTE terrorist supporter, on an AI blog, looking for support for the rotting corpse of your dead movement.

    Human Rights, indeed.

    Yes, Eelam is really close. I can smell it. ©

  52. Dear Misguided Mango

    You always accuse me of not replying to your posts.

    I posted to you yesterday and so I am now following up on your lack of response. I hope you will stick to your own gentlemanly principles and reply to me, answering my questions as I have answered yours.

    ————————
    Yesterday's post:

    After re-reading your comments, I still believe you to be a well-informed, intelligent man

    But I am sure ….you, as the whole world, can see that the Sri Lankan government is using delaying techniques in order to keep the 300,000 innocent civilians within the walls of the concentration camps indefinitely, while colonizing all Tamil Homelands.

    Your comments do not paint the Tamils as human beings, worthless of pity, freedom and basic human rights. Can you not see that these PEOPLE are suffering, constantly marred by pain and desperation. You seem to be completely void of one side of the information, choosing only to see the official point of view.

    I’m shocked that you have allowed your mind to be filled with such a biased view of the Tamils, tainted with assumptions, despite your obvious astuteness.

  53. Dear Misguided Mango

    You always accuse me of not replying to your posts.

    I posted to you yesterday and so I am now following up on your lack of response. I hope you will stick to your own gentlemanly principles and reply to me, answering my questions as I have answered yours.

    ————————
    Yesterday’s post:

    After re-reading your comments, I still believe you to be a well-informed, intelligent man

    But I am sure ….you, as the whole world, can see that the Sri Lankan government is using delaying techniques in order to keep the 300,000 innocent civilians within the walls of the concentration camps indefinitely, while colonizing all Tamil Homelands.

    Your comments do not paint the Tamils as human beings, worthless of pity, freedom and basic human rights. Can you not see that these PEOPLE are suffering, constantly marred by pain and desperation. You seem to be completely void of one side of the information, choosing only to see the official point of view.

    I’m shocked that you have allowed your mind to be filled with such a biased view of the Tamils, tainted with assumptions, despite your obvious astuteness.

  54. There is no earthly need for Sri Lanka to investigate into human rights violations. One who asserts must prove. AI is not UN and should not act like UN.

    The funny thing is their allegations are all levelled only against the SL government and not against Tamil separatists (the other party to the war). Tamil separatists committed some of the most horrendous crimes against humanity and human rights was seen by them as something that must be violated.

    Blaming the LTTE and not Tamil separatists (the real criminals) is the easy way out taken by many "human rights" activists. This itself defeats the purpose of monitoring human rights.

    It is the duty of AI, HRW to be aware of any HR violations. They may allege HR violations in SELECTED countries based on their financiers' fancies. But taking those allegations seriously is a completely different thing. If investigation into these allegations go against UN security council decisions, that is even more bizzare and is better avoided.

  55. Hi Mawatha,

    Of course the IDPs are going to be released back to their homes and I'd like them re-settled as soon as humanly possible. I've given the reasons for their detention before and primarily it is a security issue. It is to avoid SL sliding back into an LTTE-hardcore inspired insurgency. The govt has no choice but to screen the worst offenders. Everyone's well aware that conditions in the camps aren't perfect. What has the LTTE-supporting diaspora and their NGO stooges done about this? Have you contributed financially to assist the IDPs? Pressing for War Crimes tribunals isn't going to help — have you learnt nothing from the last three years?

    For instance, have the NGOs collected funds to purchase automatic mine removal machines? No, this is being left to the Govt to finance.

    The most dreadful scenes from the last battles were those of Tamil civilians streaming across the LTTE barriers, into govt territory being shot at by their so-called protectors – the LTTE. You'll remember the pix of them carrying nothing but a few suitcases containing their worldly belonging. These are our people and by that I mean people that look like us, like our grandfathers, grandmother, aunties etc. Of course I want them to be returned to their homes to have the chance to live a decent life.

    What you won't admit to is how almost 300k+ people were herded by the LTTE to act as a defensive hostage shield. I repeat, they were being used to prevent the final onslaught by the SLA. The remaining senior LTTE cadres have admitted this.

    I don't have any biased view of Tamils, but only wished for the total annihilation of the LTTE. You may equate Tamils with the LTTE (as do many INGOs) but I don't. The LTTE wanted to divide the island through violence and they met a deservedly violent end. Many Tamils who disagreed with the LTTE's role as 'sole representatives' also met a violent end, at the hands of the LTTE.

    Your phrase "colonizing all Tamil Homelands" proves your Eelamish mindset. There is only one homeland for Sri Lankan Tamils and that is all of Sri Lanka and not just the North and the East. Is Wellawatte to be made into a 'Tamil Homeland' because it is a Tamil majority area of Colombo?

    I'm relieved beyond words that the LTTE has been shredded and no more Tamil children will need to learn to field strip AK-47s. You on the other hand appear to want to continue the struggle for a mythical Tamil homeland within Sri Lanka. A very misguided course of action.

    You're an intelligent articulate person, so you shouldn't have any problems answering my questions to you.

    1. How much did you contribute financially to the struggle? Don't be shy, no-one's reading this blog, anyway, apart from us.

    2. Explain how your now-deceased Sun God increased and improved Tamils’ Human Rights by conscripting children for the last-ditch defence of his Eelam fantasy and shooting at Tamil civilians trying to escape the Army lines.

    3. Do you support the creation of a ethnically pure, Tamil homeland within Sri Lanka?

  56. There is no earthly need for Sri Lanka to investigate into human rights violations. One who asserts must prove. AI is not UN and should not act like UN.

    The funny thing is their allegations are all levelled only against the SL government and not against Tamil separatists (the other party to the war). Tamil separatists committed some of the most horrendous crimes against humanity and human rights was seen by them as something that must be violated.

    Blaming the LTTE and not Tamil separatists (the real criminals) is the easy way out taken by many “human rights” activists. This itself defeats the purpose of monitoring human rights.

    It is the duty of AI, HRW to be aware of any HR violations. They may allege HR violations in SELECTED countries based on their financiers’ fancies. But taking those allegations seriously is a completely different thing. If investigation into these allegations go against UN security council decisions, that is even more bizzare and is better avoided.

  57. Hi Mawatha,

    Of course the IDPs are going to be released back to their homes and I’d like them re-settled as soon as humanly possible. I’ve given the reasons for their detention before and primarily it is a security issue. It is to avoid SL sliding back into an LTTE-hardcore inspired insurgency. The govt has no choice but to screen the worst offenders. Everyone’s well aware that conditions in the camps aren’t perfect. What has the LTTE-supporting diaspora and their NGO stooges done about this? Have you contributed financially to assist the IDPs? Pressing for War Crimes tribunals isn’t going to help — have you learnt nothing from the last three years?

    For instance, have the NGOs collected funds to purchase automatic mine removal machines? No, this is being left to the Govt to finance.

    The most dreadful scenes from the last battles were those of Tamil civilians streaming across the LTTE barriers, into govt territory being shot at by their so-called protectors – the LTTE. You’ll remember the pix of them carrying nothing but a few suitcases containing their worldly belonging. These are our people and by that I mean people that look like us, like our grandfathers, grandmother, aunties etc. Of course I want them to be returned to their homes to have the chance to live a decent life.

    What you won’t admit to is how almost 300k+ people were herded by the LTTE to act as a defensive hostage shield. I repeat, they were being used to prevent the final onslaught by the SLA. The remaining senior LTTE cadres have admitted this.

    I don’t have any biased view of Tamils, but only wished for the total annihilation of the LTTE. You may equate Tamils with the LTTE (as do many INGOs) but I don’t. The LTTE wanted to divide the island through violence and they met a deservedly violent end. Many Tamils who disagreed with the LTTE’s role as ‘sole representatives’ also met a violent end, at the hands of the LTTE.

    Your phrase “colonizing all Tamil Homelands” proves your Eelamish mindset. There is only one homeland for Sri Lankan Tamils and that is all of Sri Lanka and not just the North and the East. Is Wellawatte to be made into a ‘Tamil Homeland’ because it is a Tamil majority area of Colombo?

    I’m relieved beyond words that the LTTE has been shredded and no more Tamil children will need to learn to field strip AK-47s. You on the other hand appear to want to continue the struggle for a mythical Tamil homeland within Sri Lanka. A very misguided course of action.

    You’re an intelligent articulate person, so you shouldn’t have any problems answering my questions to you.

    1. How much did you contribute financially to the struggle? Don’t be shy, no-one’s reading this blog, anyway, apart from us.

    2. Explain how your now-deceased Sun God increased and improved Tamils’ Human Rights by conscripting children for the last-ditch defence of his Eelam fantasy and shooting at Tamil civilians trying to escape the Army lines.

    3. Do you support the creation of a ethnically pure, Tamil homeland within Sri Lanka?

  58. Dear Misguided Mango,

    Firstly your fibs are amusing because I have never refused to answer your questions. Perhaps you just refuse to read my answers. You mistakenly accuse me of not answering your questions, and then go on to call me a terrorist supporter! Are all the supporters of Tamil Human Rights terrorists? Why do you have to insult everyone on this forum with humiliating name calling and child like banter?

    It is sad how you laugh at the deaths and torture suffered by the victims of this war. You are a low human being if you feel nothing for the men, women and children who are being pillaged by the Government of Sri Lanka (GOSL) and the SLA.

    While on this forum, I have never humiliated the Sinhalese vendetta, so why do you find it funny to laugh at the Tamil? It is barbaric and degrading to laugh at the expense of others while they are dying from the conditions of the civil war from the starvation in Sri Lankan concentration camps. It is pointless and disappointing to realize that you have this in you.

    You accuse me of ignoring some issues, but I would like to know why you rarely mention the IDP’s. Why do you ignore the people suffering at the hands of the GOSL? Do they cease to exist? Or are you so blind that you really can’t see the pain they are going through day to day.

    You just can’t detain more than a quarter of a million people for many months because you think there may be some criminals amongst them.

    There may be more drug dealers in the city of Colombo– do you put a fence around it and let no one move until they have been “weeded out”.

    It is the most insane and ludicrous attempt at so-called security measures the world has ever seen.

    If I happened to be caught up in an area and was kept in a camp for many months because I was in the wrong part of the country, because it was my bad luck to be born there, with no rights of movement, unable to see my family, living in baking hot tents, flooded, sharing a toilet with 1000 other people – I would be very, very angry.

    Mango, you are as peace-loving Mahawamsa Buddhist, who supports Unitary Sri Lanka where all ethnicities can live in peace.

    But what about the 300,000 people who are still suffering within the confines of the concentration camps? I don’t think they would agree on this kind of peaceful, unified state or appreciate your twisted understanding of a “peaceful life”. Why are you choosing to ignore this fact?

    The 300,000 people still imprisoned even though the war is ended of the few months ago, so tell me, why are the Tamil people still being treated as slaves? This is not a peaceful coexistence. Imagine if it were your children, wife or mother imprisoned and they endure daily torture, rape and murder. Would you be ok with that knowledge? Or would you be hoping there was someone out there trying to fight for the rights of your oppressed relatives?

    Your support of the Government of Sri Lanka (GOSL) and the Sri Lanka Army (SLA) may in fact make you as bad as they are, with their actions towards the Tamil people. I am not going to sink to your level and brand you a terrorist supporter of the Sri Lanka Terror state of but maybe you should ponder your ideas and see where it leads you.

    P.S. My conversation with you is not a Freudian slip, but a Kafkaesque’s nightmare

  59. Hi Mawatha,

    You've yet again completely avoided answering the three simple questions I put to you on my previous reply. Why? Is it too embarrassing?

    There's a difference between supporting Tamil HR and supporting the LTTE's aims and objectives. Which is it for you? And why only Tamil HR? What about the HR of Sri Lankans of other ethnicities? Are you agitating for the HR of Sinhalese and Muslims chased out of Jaffna and elsewhere by the LTTE? I support the HR of all Sri Lankans, irrespective of the religion and ethnicity. Do you?

    Your attempt to characterise my responses as 'laughing at the deaths of victims' is frankly pathetic. No such comments have been made by me. I only expressed relief and delight that the LTTE menace has finally been destroyed. Are you also pleased that the LTTE's military forces have been destroyed?

    The IDP camps are not concentration camps. This is factually inaccurate. They are not enduring 'daily torture, rape and murder.' [this doesn't mean that there haven't been some criminal acts, which I'm not excusing]. I'm surprised you forgot to mention that they're being 'genocided'. Let's stick to facts when we can, rather than hysterical outpourings, that often characterise your comments.

    The matter of the suffering of the IDPs has been noted. I've explained why they're in the situation they're in and I only wish for their speediest possible re-settlement, subject to the dictates of the prevailing security situation, as determined by the security forces and political direction of the SL govt. Not based purely on the comments of INGOs and LTTE supporters. I repeat, as soon as possible. In fact purely from a PR-perspective and a more successful post-war settlement, the sooner the IDPs are returned, the better.

    But I include also, the the swift return and re-settlement of IDPs living elsewhere is SL, whose lives and homes were destroyed by the LTTE. You appear strangely silent about the fate of these forgotten 100k+ (mainly Muslim) IDPs. Aren't they sufficiently 'pure-Tamil' to gain your attention and sympathy?

    My sympathies are with all Sri Lankans who've had their lives destroyed by the LTTE-inspired insurgency. Your sympathies appear to only extend to the Tamil peoples. Who's the racist now? Lives that would've been destroyed had the LTTE been permitted to remain in existence have now been saved due to the actions of the SL govt who finally destroyed the LTTE. True or false?

    If my own family members were being held in IDP camps, I'd do what any sensible person would do. Try to work with the SL govt to prove their bona fides and arrange for their release. If however, my family members were hard-core LTTE, I'd know that their fate would depend on the extent of their involvement with the LTTE. What I wouldn't do is to make cretinous and baseless allegations of 'genocide', and 'mass rape', unless I was able to bring absolutely incontrovertible proof that these things were happening.

    So, let's try again to see if you'll answer my three simple questions.

    1. How much did you contribute financially to the LTTE's struggle?.

    2. Explain how your now-deceased Sun God increased and improved Tamils’ Human Rights by conscripting children for the last-ditch defence of his Eelam fantasy and shooting at Tamil civilians trying to escape the Army lines.

    3. Do you support the creation of a ethnically pure, Tamil homeland within Sri Lanka?

    p.s. It is indeed Kafkaesque to read the demands of a supporter of an acknowledged and unreservedly racist, murderous terrorist group using the shield of HR to further the aims of that terror group. A group, that furthermore set the benchmark for torture camps and execution of people deemed insufficiently enthusiastic in supporting their struggle for the creation of a race-based state.

    Kafka would certainly approve as would Freud when your frequent use of racist language (Tamil homelands etc) allow us a glimpse into your thinking. Prove me wrong by answering my questions.

  60. Dear Misguided Mango,

    Firstly your fibs are amusing because I have never refused to answer your questions. Perhaps you just refuse to read my answers. You mistakenly accuse me of not answering your questions, and then go on to call me a terrorist supporter! Are all the supporters of Tamil Human Rights terrorists? Why do you have to insult everyone on this forum with humiliating name calling and child like banter?

    It is sad how you laugh at the deaths and torture suffered by the victims of this war. You are a low human being if you feel nothing for the men, women and children who are being pillaged by the Government of Sri Lanka (GOSL) and the SLA.

    While on this forum, I have never humiliated the Sinhalese vendetta, so why do you find it funny to laugh at the Tamil? It is barbaric and degrading to laugh at the expense of others while they are dying from the conditions of the civil war from the starvation in Sri Lankan concentration camps. It is pointless and disappointing to realize that you have this in you.

    You accuse me of ignoring some issues, but I would like to know why you rarely mention the IDP’s. Why do you ignore the people suffering at the hands of the GOSL? Do they cease to exist? Or are you so blind that you really can’t see the pain they are going through day to day.

    You just can’t detain more than a quarter of a million people for many months because you think there may be some criminals amongst them.

    There may be more drug dealers in the city of Colombo– do you put a fence around it and let no one move until they have been “weeded out”.

    It is the most insane and ludicrous attempt at so-called security measures the world has ever seen.

    If I happened to be caught up in an area and was kept in a camp for many months because I was in the wrong part of the country, because it was my bad luck to be born there, with no rights of movement, unable to see my family, living in baking hot tents, flooded, sharing a toilet with 1000 other people – I would be very, very angry.

    Mango, you are as peace-loving Mahawamsa Buddhist, who supports Unitary Sri Lanka where all ethnicities can live in peace.

    But what about the 300,000 people who are still suffering within the confines of the concentration camps? I don’t think they would agree on this kind of peaceful, unified state or appreciate your twisted understanding of a “peaceful life”. Why are you choosing to ignore this fact?

    The 300,000 people still imprisoned even though the war is ended of the few months ago, so tell me, why are the Tamil people still being treated as slaves? This is not a peaceful coexistence. Imagine if it were your children, wife or mother imprisoned and they endure daily torture, rape and murder. Would you be ok with that knowledge? Or would you be hoping there was someone out there trying to fight for the rights of your oppressed relatives?

    Your support of the Government of Sri Lanka (GOSL) and the Sri Lanka Army (SLA) may in fact make you as bad as they are, with their actions towards the Tamil people. I am not going to sink to your level and brand you a terrorist supporter of the Sri Lanka Terror state of but maybe you should ponder your ideas and see where it leads you.

    P.S. My conversation with you is not a Freudian slip, but a Kafkaesque’s nightmare

  61. AI is a business who represent thier clients' selective human rights. They don't represent the ordinary people of Sri Lanka. We can clearly see where AI get money from ,and who they represent(ie, thier clients).

    I don't think any other country in the world would have done more towards human rights in a war situation like SL army did. They sacrifieses the lives of soldiers to save the lives of civilians who were kept forceably by the LTTE. Any civilian lives lost is the responsibility of LTTE. Sri Lanka Army did not aim civilians.Infact they are giving second chances to LTTE carder now.

    AI, you have not done ANYTHING towards the human rights of average Sri Lankan. You wanted the war to continue , so you can get paid to protect human rights of your customers. You are the criminals who in the name of human rights wanted to drag the war and enjoy the suffering of Sri Lankans.

    We don't believe in any independent inquiries. Because you or any currupted organisation in the west are NOT INDEPENDENT. You are there not to protect human rights of Sri Lankans. You are there for your own agenda which are conflicting in the interest of SRI LANKANS.

  62. Hi Mawatha,

    You’ve yet again completely avoided answering the three simple questions I put to you on my previous reply. Why? Is it too embarrassing?

    There’s a difference between supporting Tamil HR and supporting the LTTE’s aims and objectives. Which is it for you? And why only Tamil HR? What about the HR of Sri Lankans of other ethnicities? Are you agitating for the HR of Sinhalese and Muslims chased out of Jaffna and elsewhere by the LTTE? I support the HR of all Sri Lankans, irrespective of the religion and ethnicity. Do you?

    Your attempt to characterise my responses as ‘laughing at the deaths of victims’ is frankly pathetic. No such comments have been made by me. I only expressed relief and delight that the LTTE menace has finally been destroyed. Are you also pleased that the LTTE’s military forces have been destroyed?

    The IDP camps are not concentration camps. This is factually inaccurate. They are not enduring ‘daily torture, rape and murder.’ [this doesn't mean that there haven't been some criminal acts, which I'm not excusing]. I’m surprised you forgot to mention that they’re being ‘genocided’. Let’s stick to facts when we can, rather than hysterical outpourings, that often characterise your comments.

    The matter of the suffering of the IDPs has been noted. I’ve explained why they’re in the situation they’re in and I only wish for their speediest possible re-settlement, subject to the dictates of the prevailing security situation, as determined by the security forces and political direction of the SL govt. Not based purely on the comments of INGOs and LTTE supporters. I repeat, as soon as possible. In fact purely from a PR-perspective and a more successful post-war settlement, the sooner the IDPs are returned, the better.

    But I include also, the the swift return and re-settlement of IDPs living elsewhere is SL, whose lives and homes were destroyed by the LTTE. You appear strangely silent about the fate of these forgotten 100k+ (mainly Muslim) IDPs. Aren’t they sufficiently ‘pure-Tamil’ to gain your attention and sympathy?

    My sympathies are with all Sri Lankans who’ve had their lives destroyed by the LTTE-inspired insurgency. Your sympathies appear to only extend to the Tamil peoples. Who’s the racist now? Lives that would’ve been destroyed had the LTTE been permitted to remain in existence have now been saved due to the actions of the SL govt who finally destroyed the LTTE. True or false?

    If my own family members were being held in IDP camps, I’d do what any sensible person would do. Try to work with the SL govt to prove their bona fides and arrange for their release. If however, my family members were hard-core LTTE, I’d know that their fate would depend on the extent of their involvement with the LTTE. What I wouldn’t do is to make cretinous and baseless allegations of ‘genocide’, and ‘mass rape’, unless I was able to bring absolutely incontrovertible proof that these things were happening.

    So, let’s try again to see if you’ll answer my three simple questions.

    1. How much did you contribute financially to the LTTE’s struggle?.

    2. Explain how your now-deceased Sun God increased and improved Tamils’ Human Rights by conscripting children for the last-ditch defence of his Eelam fantasy and shooting at Tamil civilians trying to escape the Army lines.

    3. Do you support the creation of a ethnically pure, Tamil homeland within Sri Lanka?

    p.s. It is indeed Kafkaesque to read the demands of a supporter of an acknowledged and unreservedly racist, murderous terrorist group using the shield of HR to further the aims of that terror group. A group, that furthermore set the benchmark for torture camps and execution of people deemed insufficiently enthusiastic in supporting their struggle for the creation of a race-based state.

    Kafka would certainly approve as would Freud when your frequent use of racist language (Tamil homelands etc) allow us a glimpse into your thinking. Prove me wrong by answering my questions.

  63. AI is a business who represent thier clients’ selective human rights. They don’t represent the ordinary people of Sri Lanka. We can clearly see where AI get money from ,and who they represent(ie, thier clients).

    I don’t think any other country in the world would have done more towards human rights in a war situation like SL army did. They sacrifieses the lives of soldiers to save the lives of civilians who were kept forceably by the LTTE. Any civilian lives lost is the responsibility of LTTE. Sri Lanka Army did not aim civilians.Infact they are giving second chances to LTTE carder now.

    AI, you have not done ANYTHING towards the human rights of average Sri Lankan. You wanted the war to continue , so you can get paid to protect human rights of your customers. You are the criminals who in the name of human rights wanted to drag the war and enjoy the suffering of Sri Lankans.

    We don’t believe in any independent inquiries. Because you or any currupted organisation in the west are NOT INDEPENDENT. You are there not to protect human rights of Sri Lankans. You are there for your own agenda which are conflicting in the interest of SRI LANKANS.

  64. Mango,

    With deep regret, i politely decline your inquiries of a personal nature

    1. How much did you contribute financially to the LTTE’s struggle?.
    —————————————————————————————————–

    It would be an ideal world in which there was no need for an army.

    No rebel groups, no Sri Lankan concentration camps, no torture, no murder

    However, it is common knowledge to all that the Sri Lankan army has an afterhour’s occupation. (Mango, please, don’t paint the Sri Lankan Army as a harmless kitty)

    If given the opportunity to quash the LTTE, the SLA would not only claim more lives unnecessarily, but continue to rape and pillage the Tamil population.

    The dishonourable actions of the SLA on the innocent civilians throughout this war are barbaric and inhuman and they stain the image of Sri Lankan army irrevocably- which in case you have forgotten the Sri Lankan Army is there to serve and protect the people of our country.

    Up to twenty thousand people have been killed in one day (see Mothers Day Massacre) with these revenge tactics.

    The LTTE has never desired to vanquish the entire Sri Lankan population; instead LTTE was trying in vain to negotiate a peaceful solution.
    However the Sri Lankan Government has shown little interest, instead preferring shameless land grabbing under the guise of liberation of the North-East of the island.

    ————————
    Reference-Mango
    September 19th, 2009 at 4:19 am

    So, those countries wishing to persecute HR abuses in SL can their own houses in order first, and subject themselves to the same committees of enquiry that Sri Lanka is threatened with. This is a perfectly valid and logical position to take.

    And further, all supporters of LTTE terror, currently living in the West are also subject to the same process.

    I’m sure AI has large dossiers on hand for the UK, USA, EU etc.
    ———————————————————————————————

    UK, USA, EU as an example when comparing it with the Sri Lankan war is of no consequence.

    The two are incomparable.

    Conditions of the SLA’s operation are quite clearly violent and cut throat- why else would they refuse media into the area, to report on the condition of our country? They are choosing to censor all information going out to the viewing world.

    The men and women involved in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars would cringe with disgust knowing you could compare the two.

    The SLA fights a bloodthirsty war, evil to the core, taking the lives of men women and children with little more than a turn of the head.

    Why is it ,Mango, that whenever the topic of the 300, 000 people imprisoned within the Sri Lankan concentration camps is brought to attention, narrow minded people choose to dig up the past or divert attention to AI’s large dossiers of UK, USA, EU ?

    Just because the UK, USA, EU may have killed of people in many wars all over the world, does not justify the actions of the Sri Lankan Army ( SLA.).

    Although many terrible things have happened in the past, there is no justification for the treatment of the Tamil people.

    The Sri Lankan government says the Tamil Tigers have been wiped out, the war is over, and Sri Lanka is free from conflict.

    But if this is true, why there are so many innocents still imprisoned, tortured, raped, murdered.

    Is the war against the Tamil Tigers, or against the Tamil people?

    I hope you remember when the Sri Lankan military said they conducted the biggest hostage rescue operation. Tell me why these people are still living like hostages inside their concentration camps.

    What are they being ‘protected’ from if the government has already defeated the Tamil rebels?

    The Sri Lankan government said they had liberated the Tamil people as well as the whole N-E side of the land from the Tamil Tigers

    Are the people inside the walls of the concentration camp liberated?
    This is a peculiar concept of liberation.

    In my opinion the Sri Lankan liberators are in fact occupiers.

    Colonizing all of the Tamil Homelands, ethnically cleansing and enslaving the civilians which is below the law, nationally and internationally.

    Sri Lanka depends on outside, international help.
    If they continue to need this help, the organizations supporting them have an upper hand in a way.

    Letting them know their help will discontinue if the state of affairs does not improve may just be the way to end the mistreatment of the minority.

  65. Ireland embassy in New Delhi in India has refused visas to thirteen competitors from Sri Lanka for the cycling event at the World Military Games 2009 in Ireland. A number of reasons for the refusal had been given by the embassy officials, sources in Colombo said ;-)

  66. Mango,

    With deep regret, i politely decline your inquiries of a personal nature

    1. How much did you contribute financially to the LTTE’s struggle?.
    —————————————————————————————————–

    It would be an ideal world in which there was no need for an army.

    No rebel groups, no Sri Lankan concentration camps, no torture, no murder

    However, it is common knowledge to all that the Sri Lankan army has an afterhour’s occupation. (Mango, please, don’t paint the Sri Lankan Army as a harmless kitty)

    If given the opportunity to quash the LTTE, the SLA would not only claim more lives unnecessarily, but continue to rape and pillage the Tamil population.

    The dishonourable actions of the SLA on the innocent civilians throughout this war are barbaric and inhuman and they stain the image of Sri Lankan army irrevocably- which in case you have forgotten the Sri Lankan Army is there to serve and protect the people of our country.

    Up to twenty thousand people have been killed in one day (see Mothers Day Massacre) with these revenge tactics.

    The LTTE has never desired to vanquish the entire Sri Lankan population; instead LTTE was trying in vain to negotiate a peaceful solution.
    However the Sri Lankan Government has shown little interest, instead preferring shameless land grabbing under the guise of liberation of the North-East of the island.

    ————————
    Reference-Mango
    September 19th, 2009 at 4:19 am

    So, those countries wishing to persecute HR abuses in SL can their own houses in order first, and subject themselves to the same committees of enquiry that Sri Lanka is threatened with. This is a perfectly valid and logical position to take.

    And further, all supporters of LTTE terror, currently living in the West are also subject to the same process.

    I’m sure AI has large dossiers on hand for the UK, USA, EU etc.
    ———————————————————————————————

    UK, USA, EU as an example when comparing it with the Sri Lankan war is of no consequence.

    The two are incomparable.

    Conditions of the SLA’s operation are quite clearly violent and cut throat- why else would they refuse media into the area, to report on the condition of our country? They are choosing to censor all information going out to the viewing world.

    The men and women involved in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars would cringe with disgust knowing you could compare the two.

    The SLA fights a bloodthirsty war, evil to the core, taking the lives of men women and children with little more than a turn of the head.

    Why is it ,Mango, that whenever the topic of the 300, 000 people imprisoned within the Sri Lankan concentration camps is brought to attention, narrow minded people choose to dig up the past or divert attention to AI’s large dossiers of UK, USA, EU ?

    Just because the UK, USA, EU may have killed of people in many wars all over the world, does not justify the actions of the Sri Lankan Army ( SLA.).

    Although many terrible things have happened in the past, there is no justification for the treatment of the Tamil people.

    The Sri Lankan government says the Tamil Tigers have been wiped out, the war is over, and Sri Lanka is free from conflict.

    But if this is true, why there are so many innocents still imprisoned, tortured, raped, murdered.

    Is the war against the Tamil Tigers, or against the Tamil people?

    I hope you remember when the Sri Lankan military said they conducted the biggest hostage rescue operation. Tell me why these people are still living like hostages inside their concentration camps.

    What are they being ‘protected’ from if the government has already defeated the Tamil rebels?

    The Sri Lankan government said they had liberated the Tamil people as well as the whole N-E side of the land from the Tamil Tigers

    Are the people inside the walls of the concentration camp liberated?
    This is a peculiar concept of liberation.

    In my opinion the Sri Lankan liberators are in fact occupiers.

    Colonizing all of the Tamil Homelands, ethnically cleansing and enslaving the civilians which is below the law, nationally and internationally.

    Sri Lanka depends on outside, international help.
    If they continue to need this help, the organizations supporting them have an upper hand in a way.

    Letting them know their help will discontinue if the state of affairs does not improve may just be the way to end the mistreatment of the minority.

  67. Ireland embassy in New Delhi in India has refused visas to thirteen competitors from Sri Lanka for the cycling event at the World Military Games 2009 in Ireland. A number of reasons for the refusal had been given by the embassy officials, sources in Colombo said ;-)

  68. State terror propaganda again
    Rulers of Sri Lanka are continuing to vomit out worms of lies to justify their atrocities against innocent lives.

    Sri Lanka: World Leaders Should Demand End to Detention Camps
    Delay in Returns No Excuse for Rights Violations http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/09/22/sri-lanka-w

    "Sadly, the Sri Lankan government has a track record of lying, deceiving and breaking promises to civilians displaced by the conflict," said Adams. "The UN, donors, and bilateral partners should demand immediate, concrete progress and not let themselves be fooled again by empty government promises."

  69. At UN, Miliband and Kouchner in Sri Lankan Meeting Friday, Japan Says It's Resolved http://www.innercitypress.com/untrip8may6srilanka

    SATHLYASANGARY ANANDASANGAREE of Lawyer's Rights Watch Canada, said so far the Sri Lankan Government had failed to live up to its commitments to the international community. Over 280,000 Tamil civilians were still being held against their will in open prisons and their freedom of movement restricted; clean water, sanitation, food, medicine and the basic necessities of life were in dire need. The Government had also failed to allow independent observers access to the camps. The deteriorating situation in Sri Lanka desperately required the attention of the Council – the international community must demand the unconditional release of the civilians within the 180-day timeline proposed by the Government of Sri Lanka and supported by a majority of Council members. http://www.unhchr.ch/huricane/huricane.nsf/view01

  70. International investigation is needed
    Genocide in Sri Lanka is real. Innocents are still being tortured, raped, murdered and starved. We have to make a choice whether to let the killings continue or we do something to stop it.

    "humanitarian mission"? Bulldozing of civilians after the defeat of the LTTE is "humanitarian mission"?

    Anger brews among Tamil civilians held 'like animals' in Sri Lanka http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/665664

    The Time of Judgement has arrived to the Land of Terror http://my.telegraph.co.uk/richarddixons/blog/2009

  71. International investigation is necessary

    The world tested all its weapons on tamils through GOSL, 200 billions dollars on war, 3000 times air strike-more than the explosive used in Hiroshima, cluster bombs, chemical bombs, 5000-6000 shelled daily, over 50,000 people were killed within three month, No security council meeting held, but when North korea tested one bomb underground, immediate meeting held. Why?

    Sri Lanka rejects West 'lectures' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8026639.stm

  72. State terror propaganda again
    Rulers of Sri Lanka are continuing to vomit out worms of lies to justify their atrocities against innocent lives.

    Sri Lanka: World Leaders Should Demand End to Detention Camps
    Delay in Returns No Excuse for Rights Violations http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/09/22/sri-lanka-w

    "Sadly, the Sri Lankan government has a track record of lying, deceiving and breaking promises to civilians displaced by the conflict," said Adams. "The UN, donors, and bilateral partners should demand immediate, concrete progress and not let themselves be fooled again by empty government promises."

  73. State terror propaganda again
    Rulers of Sri Lanka are continuing to vomit out worms of lies to justify their atrocities against innocent lives.

    Sri Lanka: World Leaders Should Demand End to Detention Camps
    Delay in Returns No Excuse for Rights Violations http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/09/22/sri-lanka-w

    "Sadly, the Sri Lankan government has a track record of lying, deceiving and breaking promises to civilians displaced by the conflict," said Adams. "The UN, donors, and bilateral partners should demand immediate, concrete progress and not let themselves be fooled again by empty government promises."

  74. At UN, Miliband and Kouchner in Sri Lankan Meeting Friday, Japan Says It's Resolved http://www.innercitypress.com/untrip8may6srilanka

    SATHLYASANGARY ANANDASANGAREE of Lawyer's Rights Watch Canada, said so far the Sri Lankan Government had failed to live up to its commitments to the international community. Over 280,000 Tamil civilians were still being held against their will in open prisons and their freedom of movement restricted; clean water, sanitation, food, medicine and the basic necessities of life were in dire need. The Government had also failed to allow independent observers access to the camps. The deteriorating situation in Sri Lanka desperately required the attention of the Council – the international community must demand the unconditional release of the civilians within the 180-day timeline proposed by the Government of Sri Lanka and supported by a majority of Council members. http://www.unhchr.ch/huricane/huricane.nsf/view01

  75. At UN, Miliband and Kouchner in Sri Lankan Meeting Friday, Japan Says It's Resolved http://www.innercitypress.com/untrip8may6srilanka

    SATHLYASANGARY ANANDASANGAREE of Lawyer's Rights Watch Canada, said so far the Sri Lankan Government had failed to live up to its commitments to the international community. Over 280,000 Tamil civilians were still being held against their will in open prisons and their freedom of movement restricted; clean water, sanitation, food, medicine and the basic necessities of life were in dire need. The Government had also failed to allow independent observers access to the camps. The deteriorating situation in Sri Lanka desperately required the attention of the Council – the international community must demand the unconditional release of the civilians within the 180-day timeline proposed by the Government of Sri Lanka and supported by a majority of Council members. http://www.unhchr.ch/huricane/huricane.nsf/view01

  76. International investigation is needed

    Fifty thousands were slaughtered in the killings fields by the Sri Lankan government with the help of India and China who are now acting like blood sucking leeches in the Indian Ocean. Three hundred thousands are now languishing in the death camps. Sri Lanka and its allies are doing all that they can to hide their crimes.

  77. International investigation is needed
    Genocide in Sri Lanka is real. Innocents are still being tortured, raped, murdered and starved. We have to make a choice whether to let the killings continue or we do something to stop it.

    "humanitarian mission"? Bulldozing of civilians after the defeat of the LTTE is "humanitarian mission"?

    Anger brews among Tamil civilians held 'like animals' in Sri Lanka http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/665664

    The Time of Judgement has arrived to the Land of Terror http://my.telegraph.co.uk/richarddixons/blog/2009

  78. International investigation is needed
    Genocide in Sri Lanka is real. Innocents are still being tortured, raped, murdered and starved. We have to make a choice whether to let the killings continue or we do something to stop it.

    "humanitarian mission"? Bulldozing of civilians after the defeat of the LTTE is "humanitarian mission"?

    Anger brews among Tamil civilians held 'like animals' in Sri Lanka http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/665664

    The Time of Judgement has arrived to the Land of Terror http://my.telegraph.co.uk/richarddixons/blog/2009

  79. Where is the “Northern Spring” in Sri Lanka? http://www.ipcs.org/article_details.php?articleNo

    IDPs are abducted or disappear : Mangala http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNew

    About 30 to 40 persons are abducted on a daily basis from IDP camps in the North, SLFP (M) Leader Mangala Samaraweera charged in Parliament yesterday.

    “Certain reports indicate that 30 to 40 persons are abducted or disappear on a daily basis from IDP camps,” Mr. Samaraweera charged.

    However, Chief Government Whip Dinesh Gunawardane denied this allegation and asked where such statistics of abducted persons were found.

    In response Mr. Samaraweera said that if such reports are to be denied the government must be transparent to the manner it deals with the IDP issue.

    “If the government allows Opposition MPs to form a committee and visit the camps then such claims can be verified. The government should act in a transparent manner,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    Mr. Samaraweera said that in Orwellian terms the so called ‘welfare’ camps were virtual prisons for the IDPs.

    “In George Orwells 1984, the Ministry of Peace dealt with war, and the Ministry of Love with torture. Likewise we witnessed in Sri Lanka how the Peace Secretariat justified excesses carried out in the name of war against terrorism. And the so-called welfare camps are virtual prisons,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    He added that most of the 280,000 IDPs had kith and kin around the country who are willing to have them until the de-mining process to the Vanni was complete.

    “They are not economic refugees. They have opened 21,000 bank accounts and deposited Rs. 500 million in banks after coming out of LTTE areas. They are government servants, teachers and farmers. All they want is to go home,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    The MP also charged that the IDPs were being resettled from one camp into another. “The government is denying these people the right to speech, choice, movement and livelihood,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

  80. International investigation is necessary

    The world tested all its weapons on tamils through GOSL, 200 billions dollars on war, 3000 times air strike-more than the explosive used in Hiroshima, cluster bombs, chemical bombs, 5000-6000 shelled daily, over 50,000 people were killed within three month, No security council meeting held, but when North korea tested one bomb underground, immediate meeting held. Why?

    Sri Lanka rejects West 'lectures' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8026639.stm

  81. International investigation is necessary

    The world tested all its weapons on tamils through GOSL, 200 billions dollars on war, 3000 times air strike-more than the explosive used in Hiroshima, cluster bombs, chemical bombs, 5000-6000 shelled daily, over 50,000 people were killed within three month, No security council meeting held, but when North korea tested one bomb underground, immediate meeting held. Why?

    Sri Lanka rejects West 'lectures' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8026639.stm

  82. Where is the “Northern Spring” in Sri Lanka? http://www.ipcs.org/article_details.php?articleNo

    IDPs are abducted or disappear : Mangala http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNew

    About 30 to 40 persons are abducted on a daily basis from IDP camps in the North, SLFP (M) Leader Mangala Samaraweera charged in Parliament yesterday.

    “Certain reports indicate that 30 to 40 persons are abducted or disappear on a daily basis from IDP camps,” Mr. Samaraweera charged.

    However, Chief Government Whip Dinesh Gunawardane denied this allegation and asked where such statistics of abducted persons were found.

    In response Mr. Samaraweera said that if such reports are to be denied the government must be transparent to the manner it deals with the IDP issue.

    “If the government allows Opposition MPs to form a committee and visit the camps then such claims can be verified. The government should act in a transparent manner,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    Mr. Samaraweera said that in Orwellian terms the so called ‘welfare’ camps were virtual prisons for the IDPs.

    “In George Orwells 1984, the Ministry of Peace dealt with war, and the Ministry of Love with torture. Likewise we witnessed in Sri Lanka how the Peace Secretariat justified excesses carried out in the name of war against terrorism. And the so-called welfare camps are virtual prisons,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    He added that most of the 280,000 IDPs had kith and kin around the country who are willing to have them until the de-mining process to the Vanni was complete.

    “They are not economic refugees. They have opened 21,000 bank accounts and deposited Rs. 500 million in banks after coming out of LTTE areas. They are government servants, teachers and farmers. All they want is to go home,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    The MP also charged that the IDPs were being resettled from one camp into another. “The government is denying these people the right to speech, choice, movement and livelihood,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

  83. Where is the “Northern Spring” in Sri Lanka? http://www.ipcs.org/article_details.php?articleNo

    IDPs are abducted or disappear : Mangala http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNew

    About 30 to 40 persons are abducted on a daily basis from IDP camps in the North, SLFP (M) Leader Mangala Samaraweera charged in Parliament yesterday.

    “Certain reports indicate that 30 to 40 persons are abducted or disappear on a daily basis from IDP camps,” Mr. Samaraweera charged.

    However, Chief Government Whip Dinesh Gunawardane denied this allegation and asked where such statistics of abducted persons were found.

    In response Mr. Samaraweera said that if such reports are to be denied the government must be transparent to the manner it deals with the IDP issue.

    “If the government allows Opposition MPs to form a committee and visit the camps then such claims can be verified. The government should act in a transparent manner,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    Mr. Samaraweera said that in Orwellian terms the so called ‘welfare’ camps were virtual prisons for the IDPs.

    “In George Orwells 1984, the Ministry of Peace dealt with war, and the Ministry of Love with torture. Likewise we witnessed in Sri Lanka how the Peace Secretariat justified excesses carried out in the name of war against terrorism. And the so-called welfare camps are virtual prisons,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    He added that most of the 280,000 IDPs had kith and kin around the country who are willing to have them until the de-mining process to the Vanni was complete.

    “They are not economic refugees. They have opened 21,000 bank accounts and deposited Rs. 500 million in banks after coming out of LTTE areas. They are government servants, teachers and farmers. All they want is to go home,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    The MP also charged that the IDPs were being resettled from one camp into another. “The government is denying these people the right to speech, choice, movement and livelihood,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

  84. State terror propaganda again
    Rulers of Sri Lanka are continuing to vomit out worms of lies to justify their atrocities against innocent lives.

    Sri Lanka: World Leaders Should Demand End to Detention Camps
    Delay in Returns No Excuse for Rights Violations
    http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/09/22/sri-lanka-world-leaders-should-demand-end-detention-camps

    “Sadly, the Sri Lankan government has a track record of lying, deceiving and breaking promises to civilians displaced by the conflict,” said Adams. “The UN, donors, and bilateral partners should demand immediate, concrete progress and not let themselves be fooled again by empty government promises.”

  85. At UN, Miliband and Kouchner in Sri Lankan Meeting Friday, Japan Says It’s Resolved
    http://www.innercitypress.com/untrip8may6srilanka092309.html

    SATHLYASANGARY ANANDASANGAREE of Lawyer’s Rights Watch Canada, said so far the Sri Lankan Government had failed to live up to its commitments to the international community. Over 280,000 Tamil civilians were still being held against their will in open prisons and their freedom of movement restricted; clean water, sanitation, food, medicine and the basic necessities of life were in dire need. The Government had also failed to allow independent observers access to the camps. The deteriorating situation in Sri Lanka desperately required the attention of the Council – the international community must demand the unconditional release of the civilians within the 180-day timeline proposed by the Government of Sri Lanka and supported by a majority of Council members.
    http://www.unhchr.ch/huricane/huricane.nsf/view01/2613FD27F8D8774DC1257639005C7875?opendocument

  86. International investigation is needed

    Fifty thousands were slaughtered in the killings fields by the Sri Lankan government with the help of India and China who are now acting like blood sucking leeches in the Indian Ocean. Three hundred thousands are now languishing in the death camps. Sri Lanka and its allies are doing all that they can to hide their crimes.

  87. International investigation is needed
    Genocide in Sri Lanka is real. Innocents are still being tortured, raped, murdered and starved. We have to make a choice whether to let the killings continue or we do something to stop it.

    “humanitarian mission”? Bulldozing of civilians after the defeat of the LTTE is “humanitarian mission”?

    Anger brews among Tamil civilians held ‘like animals’ in Sri Lanka
    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/665664

    The Time of Judgement has arrived to the Land of Terror
    http://my.telegraph.co.uk/richarddixons/blog/2009/07/12/the_time_of_judgement_has_arrived_to_the_land_of_terror?ts=1247589026

  88. International investigation is necessary

    The world tested all its weapons on tamils through GOSL, 200 billions dollars on war, 3000 times air strike-more than the explosive used in Hiroshima, cluster bombs, chemical bombs, 5000-6000 shelled daily, over 50,000 people were killed within three month, No security council meeting held, but when North korea tested one bomb underground, immediate meeting held. Why?

    Sri Lanka rejects West ‘lectures’
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8026639.stm

  89. Hi Mawatha,

    1. How much did you contribute financially to the LTTE’s struggle?.
    With deep regret, i politely decline your inquiries of a personal nature

    Thank you for confirming your status as an LTTE supporter & financial contributor. Everything you demand has to be seen that particular filter – one that denies the LTTE's own long catalogue of crimes against the Tamil civilians on whose behalf they claimed to act and fight.

    By continuing to peddle lies about mass rapes by SLA, you merely repeat tired LTTE lies and propaganda. I'm glad you agree that the SLA exists to "to serve and protect the people of our country". They've fulfilled this duty by destroying the LTTE who were greatest impediment to the life and progress of our country.

    The SLA army atrocities against Tamil civilians are well known and mostly happened during the early stages of the Eelam Wars. I regret deeply that those responsible were not prosecuted. It is indeed a stain on the good name of the SLA. But do I need to remind you of LTTE atrocities of equal seriousness? 'Cleansing' border areas by hacking to death entire villages. I understand that these were training missions to 'blood' LTTE cadres.

    You still propound the absurd notion of 'LTTE negotiations' . A completely discredited argument that no-one believes – except for dyed-in-the wool, irredentist Eelamists. Karuna saw at first hand the utter uselessness of LTTE negotiations.

    You continue to skirt around the truly racist nature of the LTTE. David Blacker put it it best with this: ..”the LTTE is racially motivated — the cleansing of the north was of all non-Tamil ethnic groups — while the SL armed forces are not — the latter will willingly kill anyone, regardless of race, if so ordered.”

    You also refuse to acknowledge the fact that it was LTTE's actions that caused civilian casualties towards the end of the War.

    A short lesson to Eelamists on responsibility for civilian casualties.

    A military target remains a legitimate military target, even if it is located in a civilian area.

    The use of civilians as shields to try to prevent attacks on military targets is prohibited.

    "The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."
    4th Geneva Convention, Article 28

    "Civilians do not enjoy absolute immunity. Their presence will not render military objects immune from attack for the mere reason that it is impossible to bombard them without causing injury to the non-combatants." Oppenheim's 'International Law'

    Hell, there's even UAV footage of LTTE cadres shooting at civilians trying to escape 'Eelam-by-the-Sea' in Puthumathalan.

    Oops. Looks like the LTTE are guilty of really major War Crimes.

    Fact 1: The LTTE used the Wanni civilians as a shield to prevent attacks on their forces by SL govt forces. Yes or No? Yes.

    Fact 2: The LTTE intermingled their fighting positions amongst the civilians in the 'No Fire Zone'. Yes or No? Yes..

    When do we begin prosecuting the LTTE leaders and their supporters for these hideous War Crimes? At the UN? In your back yard?

    Your repeated assertions of 'concentration camps' do not make it a fact. I've given reasons for the existence of temporary IDP camps.

    Now, how about answering my other remaining questions, instead of going over the same ground, like a stuck record? Your silence on other IDPs including the 100k+ languishing in camps for over 10 years, resulting from LTTE actions, is more eloquent that any excuses you care to invent.

    Here are my questions again:

    2. Explain how your now-deceased Sun God increased and improved Tamils’ Human Rights by conscripting children for the last-ditch defence of his Eelam fantasy and shooting at Tamil civilians trying to escape the Army lines.

    3. Do you support the creation of a ethnically pure, Tamil homeland within Sri Lanka?

    And one little question:

    4. Is Wellawatte to be made into a 'Tamil Homeland' because it is a Tamil majority area of Colombo?

    p.s. SLA cycle team being denied entry to Ireland? It's your White Masters taking revenge on SL for snubbing their pro-LTTE stance at the end of the War. It'd be nice to win a cycle race at the World Army Games, but I prefer that we won the LTTE war.

  90. Where is the “Northern Spring” in Sri Lanka?
    http://www.ipcs.org/article_details.php?articleNo=2974

    IDPs are abducted or disappear : Mangala
    http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=62350

    About 30 to 40 persons are abducted on a daily basis from IDP camps in the North, SLFP (M) Leader Mangala Samaraweera charged in Parliament yesterday.

    “Certain reports indicate that 30 to 40 persons are abducted or disappear on a daily basis from IDP camps,” Mr. Samaraweera charged.

    However, Chief Government Whip Dinesh Gunawardane denied this allegation and asked where such statistics of abducted persons were found.

    In response Mr. Samaraweera said that if such reports are to be denied the government must be transparent to the manner it deals with the IDP issue.

    “If the government allows Opposition MPs to form a committee and visit the camps then such claims can be verified. The government should act in a transparent manner,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    Mr. Samaraweera said that in Orwellian terms the so called ‘welfare’ camps were virtual prisons for the IDPs.

    “In George Orwells 1984, the Ministry of Peace dealt with war, and the Ministry of Love with torture. Likewise we witnessed in Sri Lanka how the Peace Secretariat justified excesses carried out in the name of war against terrorism. And the so-called welfare camps are virtual prisons,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    He added that most of the 280,000 IDPs had kith and kin around the country who are willing to have them until the de-mining process to the Vanni was complete.

    “They are not economic refugees. They have opened 21,000 bank accounts and deposited Rs. 500 million in banks after coming out of LTTE areas. They are government servants, teachers and farmers. All they want is to go home,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

    The MP also charged that the IDPs were being resettled from one camp into another. “The government is denying these people the right to speech, choice, movement and livelihood,” Mr. Samaraweera said.

  91. Mango,

    Wow …. Does the Elam War V just start? :)

    And what are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

    The Sri Lankan government’s failure to deliver justice for serious human rights violations over the past 61 years has trapped this country in a vicious cycle of abuse and impunity. The failure of successive Sri Lankan governments to provide accountability for serious human rights violations, including enforced disappearances, torture, killings.

    We Tamils of Sri Lanka have been suffering the disease of oppression from historical times and at times the SYMPTOMS OF THE DISEASE take such severe form causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of individuals of the community. We are thankful to the AI for sympathizing with the symptoms of the disease and even advocating the removal of the symptoms and at the same time also hurt that the disease causing the symptoms is not understood. I am only reminded of a discussion with a famous western cardiologist about 10 years ago, when he said: "In allopathy, we only treat the symptoms and we have no time to treat the disease" after giving more possible insight to the disease than others. As the symptoms were expressions of pain, I agreed for the symptoms to be treated. I suppose we Tamils have to take the same attitude and welcome the AI effort to get rid of the symptom representing the sufferings of the Sri Lankan Tamils at this point in time though I would like to point out that remarks like "Elara a Tamil usurper from India" are not facts of history but a result of sustained propaganda by the MYTH called Mahavansa mindset. Equally "Banning of the LTTE" by 30 of the 200 countries in the world is based on this approach of curing the symptoms and not the disease and end up confusing the symptoms as the disease itself. This is how I understand the Western mindset which said: "Finish the LTTE and the problem will be solved" and hopefully the near future will prove that this perception was wrong. THE CHAUVINIST SINHALA BUDDHIST GOVERNMEENT capitalized on this conceptual miscarriage as they thought "Finishing the LTTE will help them very much in completing the GENOCIDE OF TAMILS" which they were doing very successfully IN THE PRE LTTE PERIOD after they gained independence. For the Chauvinists POST LTTE is same as PRE LTTE. Though we cannot expect the world to know our history, we need to point out the agenda of the Chauvinists in recruiting another 100000 soldiers after defeating the LTTE. What the Chauvinists are saying is that they are keen to complete the Genocide of Tamils and for that purpose branding all Tamils as LTTE. If the world does not like armed resistance, we welcome that if the world can stop armed oppression”. Further the world should understand is that THE TAMILS ONLY ASK FOR THE RIGHT TO LIVE AS A NATION IN THEIR HOMELAND and do not say that the Sinhalese should jump into the sea UNLIKE the Sinhalese who wants the Tamils to leave Sri Lanka or be slaves. The world has to decide whether the Tamil Cause is right or not and implement if right. This space is not enough to discuss HISTORY but the CLEGHORN MINUTE of June 1799. A HISTORICAL RECORD OF HISTORY cannot be erased by SYMBOLS PLANTED DURING PERIODS OF OCCUPATION OF THE TAMIL HOMELAND.

  92. In response to Chintha's comment of Sept. 23, 9:13 A.M., I'd invite those interested to visit the AIUSA website (www.amnestyusa.org). You can see there information on human rights in most, if not all, of the countries around the world. I'd also invite those interested to review the Sri Lanka page on the AIUSA website to see what AI has actually been calling for in the case of Sri Lanka. I reject all the charges made about AI in Chintha's comment; they are false and unfounded.

    In response to Kumar's comment of Sept. 22, 5:52 P.M., I'd say that it's simply not true that AI didn't condemn human rights abuses by the LTTE; please see the Sri Lanka page on the AIUSA website. As one example, please note our June 6, 2008 public statement. The distinction in the comment between the LTTE and "Tamil separatists" is unclear to me; I don't know who is intended to be covered by the term "Tamil separatists" apart from the LTTE. The reference in the comment to AI not acting like the UN is also unclear to me. With respect to AI having to "prove" reports of human rights abuses by either side, as I've said earlier, it should be obvious why AI does not publicly disclose its research sources. If our work was without foundation, it would be ignored. But it isn't. The Sri Lankan government has a long history of human rights abuses, documented not only by AI and other human rights groups, but also by bodies appointed by the Sri Lankan government (see, for instance, the reports of the disappearance commissions appointed by the government in the mid-90s).

    In response to Mango's comment of Sept. 21, 2:21 A.M., I have inquired within AI as to whether AI has gotten any funding from the EU or the U.K. government as you asked (I have not asked about funding from the U.S. government as that wasn't in your original question and is only being brought up now in your comment). I will let you know when I hear back, and I'll ask again if I don't get a response in the near future. Once I hear back, if I can, I'll also ask about funding from the U.S. government. I have not asked about "indirect" funding, as that was not in the original question; frankly, I don't know what that means.

    Finally, I'd greatly appreciate it if people would stop personal attacks, name-calling and trying to change the subject. They don't contribute to the discussion which we should be having here.

  93. Hi Mawatha,

    Nice try at avoiding answering my questions posting the usual LTTE drivel justifying your murderous violence. I suppose its only to be expected from an Eelam supporter who's watched a 30-year 'struggle' go down the toilet. Please let me help to alleviate your pain.

    Please practice these Kubler-Ross 'Stages of Grief' to better deal with destruction of your dream (nightmare) state. This is especially important to Diaspora Eelamists. I've even added relevant Eelamistic thoughts for each stage to help you.

    The stages are identified are:

    Denial (this isn't happening to Eelam!)

    Anger (why is this happening to Eelam? How could this happen to Eelam? Who betrayed Eelam?)

    Bargaining (I promise I'll be a better person if…one day Eelam can be achieved)

    Depression (I don't care anymore if Eelam is never achieved. I feel suicidal) Overwhelming feelings of hopelessness, frustration, bitterness, self pity, mourning loss of VP as well as the hopes, dreams and plans for the future Eelam. Feeling lack of control, feeling numb. Perhaps feeling suicidal.

    Acceptance (I'm ready for whatever comes, even a Sri Lanka cleansed of Eelamish tendencies)

    Which stage are you currently at?

  94. Hi Mawatha,

    1. How much did you contribute financially to the LTTE’s struggle?.
    With deep regret, i politely decline your inquiries of a personal nature

    Thank you for confirming your status as an LTTE supporter & financial contributor. Everything you demand has to be seen that particular filter – one that denies the LTTE’s own long catalogue of crimes against the Tamil civilians on whose behalf they claimed to act and fight.

    By continuing to peddle lies about mass rapes by SLA, you merely repeat tired LTTE lies and propaganda. I’m glad you agree that the SLA exists to “to serve and protect the people of our country”. They’ve fulfilled this duty by destroying the LTTE who were greatest impediment to the life and progress of our country.

    The SLA army atrocities against Tamil civilians are well known and mostly happened during the early stages of the Eelam Wars. I regret deeply that those responsible were not prosecuted. It is indeed a stain on the good name of the SLA. But do I need to remind you of LTTE atrocities of equal seriousness? ‘Cleansing’ border areas by hacking to death entire villages. I understand that these were training missions to ‘blood’ LTTE cadres.

    You still propound the absurd notion of ‘LTTE negotiations’ . A completely discredited argument that no-one believes – except for dyed-in-the wool, irredentist Eelamists. Karuna saw at first hand the utter uselessness of LTTE negotiations.

    You continue to skirt around the truly racist nature of the LTTE. David Blacker put it it best with this: ..”the LTTE is racially motivated — the cleansing of the north was of all non-Tamil ethnic groups — while the SL armed forces are not — the latter will willingly kill anyone, regardless of race, if so ordered.”

    You also refuse to acknowledge the fact that it was LTTE’s actions that caused civilian casualties towards the end of the War.

    A short lesson to Eelamists on responsibility for civilian casualties.

    A military target remains a legitimate military target, even if it is located in a civilian area.

    The use of civilians as shields to try to prevent attacks on military targets is prohibited.

    “The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.”
    4th Geneva Convention, Article 28

    “Civilians do not enjoy absolute immunity. Their presence will not render military objects immune from attack for the mere reason that it is impossible to bombard them without causing injury to the non-combatants.” Oppenheim’s ‘International Law’

    Hell, there’s even UAV footage of LTTE cadres shooting at civilians trying to escape ‘Eelam-by-the-Sea’ in Puthumathalan.

    Oops. Looks like the LTTE are guilty of really major War Crimes.

    Fact 1: The LTTE used the Wanni civilians as a shield to prevent attacks on their forces by SL govt forces. Yes or No? Yes.

    Fact 2: The LTTE intermingled their fighting positions amongst the civilians in the ‘No Fire Zone’. Yes or No? Yes..

    When do we begin prosecuting the LTTE leaders and their supporters for these hideous War Crimes? At the UN? In your back yard?

    Your repeated assertions of ‘concentration camps’ do not make it a fact. I’ve given reasons for the existence of temporary IDP camps.

    Now, how about answering my other remaining questions, instead of going over the same ground, like a stuck record? Your silence on other IDPs including the 100k+ languishing in camps for over 10 years, resulting from LTTE actions, is more eloquent that any excuses you care to invent.

    Here are my questions again:

    2. Explain how your now-deceased Sun God increased and improved Tamils’ Human Rights by conscripting children for the last-ditch defence of his Eelam fantasy and shooting at Tamil civilians trying to escape the Army lines.

    3. Do you support the creation of a ethnically pure, Tamil homeland within Sri Lanka?

    And one little question:

    4. Is Wellawatte to be made into a ‘Tamil Homeland’ because it is a Tamil majority area of Colombo?

    p.s. SLA cycle team being denied entry to Ireland? It’s your White Masters taking revenge on SL for snubbing their pro-LTTE stance at the end of the War. It’d be nice to win a cycle race at the World Army Games, but I prefer that we won the LTTE war.

  95. In response to Chintha's comment of Sept. 23, 9:13 A.M., I'd invite those interested to visit the AIUSA website (www.amnestyusa.org). You can see there information on human rights in most, if not all, of the countries around the world. I'd also invite those interested to review the Sri Lanka page on the AIUSA website to see what AI has actually been calling for in the case of Sri Lanka. I reject all the charges made about AI in Chintha's comment; they are false and unfounded.

    In response to Kumar's comment of Sept. 22, 5:52 P.M., I'd say that it's simply not true that AI didn't condemn human rights abuses by the LTTE; please see the Sri Lanka page on the AIUSA website. As one example, please note our June 6, 2008 public statement. The distinction in the comment between the LTTE and "Tamil separatists" is unclear to me; I don't know who is intended to be covered by the term "Tamil separatists" apart from the LTTE. The reference in the comment to AI not acting like the UN is also unclear to me. With respect to AI having to "prove" reports of human rights abuses by either side, as I've said earlier, it should be obvious why AI does not publicly disclose its research sources. If our work was without foundation, it would be ignored. But it isn't. The Sri Lankan government has a long history of human rights abuses, documented not only by AI and other human rights groups, but also by bodies appointed by the Sri Lankan government (see, for instance, the reports of the disappearance commissions appointed by the government in the mid-90s).

    In response to Mango's comment of Sept. 21, 2:21 A.M., I have inquired within AI as to whether AI has gotten any funding from the EU or the U.K. government as you asked (I have not asked about funding from the U.S. government as that wasn't in your original question and is only being brought up now in your comment). I will let you know when I hear back, and I'll ask again if I don't get a response in the near future. Once I hear back, if I can, I'll also ask about funding from the U.S. government. I have not asked about "indirect" funding, as that was not in the original question; frankly, I don't know what that means.

    Finally, I'd greatly appreciate it if people would stop personal attacks, name-calling and trying to change the subject. They don't contribute to the discussion which we should be having here.

  96. In response to Chintha's comment of Sept. 23, 9:13 A.M., I'd invite those interested to visit the AIUSA website (www.amnestyusa.org). You can see there information on human rights in most, if not all, of the countries around the world. I'd also invite those interested to review the Sri Lanka page on the AIUSA website to see what AI has actually been calling for in the case of Sri Lanka. I reject all the charges made about AI in Chintha's comment; they are false and unfounded.

    In response to Kumar's comment of Sept. 22, 5:52 P.M., I'd say that it's simply not true that AI didn't condemn human rights abuses by the LTTE; please see the Sri Lanka page on the AIUSA website. As one example, please note our June 6, 2008 public statement. The distinction in the comment between the LTTE and "Tamil separatists" is unclear to me; I don't know who is intended to be covered by the term "Tamil separatists" apart from the LTTE. The reference in the comment to AI not acting like the UN is also unclear to me. With respect to AI having to "prove" reports of human rights abuses by either side, as I've said earlier, it should be obvious why AI does not publicly disclose its research sources. If our work was without foundation, it would be ignored. But it isn't. The Sri Lankan government has a long history of human rights abuses, documented not only by AI and other human rights groups, but also by bodies appointed by the Sri Lankan government (see, for instance, the reports of the disappearance commissions appointed by the government in the mid-90s).

    In response to Mango's comment of Sept. 21, 2:21 A.M., I have inquired within AI as to whether AI has gotten any funding from the EU or the U.K. government as you asked (I have not asked about funding from the U.S. government as that wasn't in your original question and is only being brought up now in your comment). I will let you know when I hear back, and I'll ask again if I don't get a response in the near future. Once I hear back, if I can, I'll also ask about funding from the U.S. government. I have not asked about "indirect" funding, as that was not in the original question; frankly, I don't know what that means.

    Finally, I'd greatly appreciate it if people would stop personal attacks, name-calling and trying to change the subject. They don't contribute to the discussion which we should be having here.

  97. Mango,

    You are still trying to weasel out of answering my question, so I’ll ask you again.

    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

    Ahh…. Now I’m beginning to recognize your peculiar modus operandi technique. You simply attack individuals without countering the arguments.

    Your position is so morally bankrupt that it can only be supported by attacking its critics instead of their point of view

    Also, let me welcome Sri Lanka to the failed state status in the list of 20 with Somalia is claiming the number one. Please keep the Kubler-Ross ‘Stages of Grief’ handy, because you will need it soon and may I kindly offer you some arrak to lessen your loooooooong lasting pain….

  98. Mango,

    Wow …. Does the Elam War V just start? :)

    And what are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

    The Sri Lankan government’s failure to deliver justice for serious human rights violations over the past 61 years has trapped this country in a vicious cycle of abuse and impunity. The failure of successive Sri Lankan governments to provide accountability for serious human rights violations, including enforced disappearances, torture, killings.

    We Tamils of Sri Lanka have been suffering the disease of oppression from historical times and at times the SYMPTOMS OF THE DISEASE take such severe form causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of individuals of the community. We are thankful to the AI for sympathizing with the symptoms of the disease and even advocating the removal of the symptoms and at the same time also hurt that the disease causing the symptoms is not understood. I am only reminded of a discussion with a famous western cardiologist about 10 years ago, when he said: “In allopathy, we only treat the symptoms and we have no time to treat the disease” after giving more possible insight to the disease than others. As the symptoms were expressions of pain, I agreed for the symptoms to be treated. I suppose we Tamils have to take the same attitude and welcome the AI effort to get rid of the symptom representing the sufferings of the Sri Lankan Tamils at this point in time though I would like to point out that remarks like “Elara a Tamil usurper from India” are not facts of history but a result of sustained propaganda by the MYTH called Mahavansa mindset. Equally “Banning of the LTTE” by 30 of the 200 countries in the world is based on this approach of curing the symptoms and not the disease and end up confusing the symptoms as the disease itself. This is how I understand the Western mindset which said: “Finish the LTTE and the problem will be solved” and hopefully the near future will prove that this perception was wrong. THE CHAUVINIST SINHALA BUDDHIST GOVERNMEENT capitalized on this conceptual miscarriage as they thought “Finishing the LTTE will help them very much in completing the GENOCIDE OF TAMILS” which they were doing very successfully IN THE PRE LTTE PERIOD after they gained independence. For the Chauvinists POST LTTE is same as PRE LTTE. Though we cannot expect the world to know our history, we need to point out the agenda of the Chauvinists in recruiting another 100000 soldiers after defeating the LTTE. What the Chauvinists are saying is that they are keen to complete the Genocide of Tamils and for that purpose branding all Tamils as LTTE. If the world does not like armed resistance, we welcome that if the world can stop armed oppression”. Further the world should understand is that THE TAMILS ONLY ASK FOR THE RIGHT TO LIVE AS A NATION IN THEIR HOMELAND and do not say that the Sinhalese should jump into the sea UNLIKE the Sinhalese who wants the Tamils to leave Sri Lanka or be slaves. The world has to decide whether the Tamil Cause is right or not and implement if right. This space is not enough to discuss HISTORY but the CLEGHORN MINUTE of June 1799. A HISTORICAL RECORD OF HISTORY cannot be erased by SYMBOLS PLANTED DURING PERIODS OF OCCUPATION OF THE TAMIL HOMELAND.

  99. Hi Mawatha,

    Nice try at avoiding answering my questions posting the usual LTTE drivel justifying your murderous violence. I suppose its only to be expected from an Eelam supporter who’s watched a 30-year ‘struggle’ go down the toilet. Please let me help to alleviate your pain.

    Please practice these Kubler-Ross ‘Stages of Grief’ to better deal with destruction of your dream (nightmare) state. This is especially important to Diaspora Eelamists. I’ve even added relevant Eelamistic thoughts for each stage to help you.

    The stages are identified are:

    Denial (this isn’t happening to Eelam!)

    Anger (why is this happening to Eelam? How could this happen to Eelam? Who betrayed Eelam?)

    Bargaining (I promise I’ll be a better person if…one day Eelam can be achieved)

    Depression (I don’t care anymore if Eelam is never achieved. I feel suicidal) Overwhelming feelings of hopelessness, frustration, bitterness, self pity, mourning loss of VP as well as the hopes, dreams and plans for the future Eelam. Feeling lack of control, feeling numb. Perhaps feeling suicidal.

    Acceptance (I’m ready for whatever comes, even a Sri Lanka cleansed of Eelamish tendencies)

    Which stage are you currently at?

  100. The Sri Lankan GSP+ trade concession was based on the ratification and effective implementation many international human rights principles. Some of them are the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), the Convention against Torture (CAT) and the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC).

    Media reports indicate that the EU Trade Concessions will be negative and that the crux of the issue is human rights. They are stubborn ones. They will not go away. They cannot be dealt with by denial, bravado, defiance, conspiracy theories or neglect. Moreover they are indubitably in the national interest and to the detriment of no one other than the perpetrators of violations.

    The Good governance cannot be served or sustained by conflict and conspiracy, fear, paranoia and insecurity. Sri Lanka is a part of an international community. Human rights and the international community have to be dealt with maturely, responsibly, constructively.

  101. In response to Chintha’s comment of Sept. 23, 9:13 A.M., I’d invite those interested to visit the AIUSA website (www.amnestyusa.org). You can see there information on human rights in most, if not all, of the countries around the world. I’d also invite those interested to review the Sri Lanka page on the AIUSA website to see what AI has actually been calling for in the case of Sri Lanka. I reject all the charges made about AI in Chintha’s comment; they are false and unfounded.

    In response to Kumar’s comment of Sept. 22, 5:52 P.M., I’d say that it’s simply not true that AI didn’t condemn human rights abuses by the LTTE; please see the Sri Lanka page on the AIUSA website. As one example, please note our June 6, 2008 public statement. The distinction in the comment between the LTTE and “Tamil separatists” is unclear to me; I don’t know who is intended to be covered by the term “Tamil separatists” apart from the LTTE. The reference in the comment to AI not acting like the UN is also unclear to me. With respect to AI having to “prove” reports of human rights abuses by either side, as I’ve said earlier, it should be obvious why AI does not publicly disclose its research sources. If our work was without foundation, it would be ignored. But it isn’t. The Sri Lankan government has a long history of human rights abuses, documented not only by AI and other human rights groups, but also by bodies appointed by the Sri Lankan government (see, for instance, the reports of the disappearance commissions appointed by the government in the mid-90s).

    In response to Mango’s comment of Sept. 21, 2:21 A.M., I have inquired within AI as to whether AI has gotten any funding from the EU or the U.K. government as you asked (I have not asked about funding from the U.S. government as that wasn’t in your original question and is only being brought up now in your comment). I will let you know when I hear back, and I’ll ask again if I don’t get a response in the near future. Once I hear back, if I can, I’ll also ask about funding from the U.S. government. I have not asked about “indirect” funding, as that was not in the original question; frankly, I don’t know what that means.

    Finally, I’d greatly appreciate it if people would stop personal attacks, name-calling and trying to change the subject. They don’t contribute to the discussion which we should be having here.

  102. Dear Jim,

    I appreciate you getting back on the funding issue. If I've offended anyone by my liberal use of 'Eelamtard' any other intemperate language, my apologies. It won't happen again. :)

    Could I also ask that people don't paste huge loads of links? It's tiresome and makes a discussion impossible.

  103. Hi Mawatha,

    The causes of the Tamil rebellion is an entirely different topic and far too well known to be gone into again, here. I'd appreciate it if you would at least try to answer my questions to you, which relate directly to the issues raised in this particular blog post. I'm not attacking you personally, merely the position you hold as a supporter of the LTTE, as I've noted before.

    In the moral bankruptcy stakes, the LTTE are well ahead of any other group on the Island, including the govt. But let's get back to the LTTE's responsibility for holding a vast number to civilians hostage, shooting at them etc. Is it really that difficult for you to admit to that simply fact?

    The Sri Lanka 'failed state' argument is one typically deployed by LTTE supporters in a moment of desperate wish fulfillment. Let's look at the commonly agreed criteria for being a failed state.

    1. Loss of physical control of its territory, or of the monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force therein. No. SL govt is in complete control of the entire island after 30 yrs of LTTE control of parts of North & East and has total monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force.

    2. Erosion of legitimate authority to make collective decisions. No.

    3. Inability to provide reasonable public services. No.

    4. Inability to interact with other states as a full member of the international community. Partial.

    So, I have to give you a C– for that effort. SL has a long way to go before reaching a 'failed state' status. Digressing slightly, its interesting to note that Afghanistan & Iraq will be on this list for a long time to come. Now, who was it that ruined those countries? It was the holier-than-thou Western bloc.

    The ex failed state of Eelam now exists only on the Internet and Second Life. Eelam has definitely left the building.

    Thanks for the advice about Arrack. But I prefer beer, specifically Lion Lager. Tiger beer (from Singapore – I wonder if KP misses it?), has lost its' sharpness and tastes very flat. I think you'll need the K-R Grief scale more than I do.

    Feel free to try to answer my previous questions.

  104. Mango,

    You are still trying to weasel out of answering my question, so I’ll ask you again.

    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

    Ahh…. Now I’m beginning to recognize your peculiar modus operandi technique. You simply attack individuals without countering the arguments.

    Your position is so morally bankrupt that it can only be supported by attacking its critics instead of their point of view

    Also, let me welcome Sri Lanka to the failed state status in the list of 20 with Somalia is claiming the number one. Please keep the Kubler-Ross ‘Stages of Grief’ handy, because you will need it soon and may I kindly offer you some arrak to lessen your loooooooong lasting pain….

  105. The Sri Lankan GSP+ trade concession was based on the ratification and effective implementation many international human rights principles. Some of them are the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), the Convention against Torture (CAT) and the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC).

    Media reports indicate that the EU Trade Concessions will be negative and that the crux of the issue is human rights. They are stubborn ones. They will not go away. They cannot be dealt with by denial, bravado, defiance, conspiracy theories or neglect. Moreover they are indubitably in the national interest and to the detriment of no one other than the perpetrators of violations.

    The Good governance cannot be served or sustained by conflict and conspiracy, fear, paranoia and insecurity. Sri Lanka is a part of an international community. Human rights and the international community have to be dealt with maturely, responsibly, constructively.

  106. Dear Jim,

    I appreciate you getting back on the funding issue. If I’ve offended anyone by my liberal use of ‘Eelamtard’ any other intemperate language, my apologies. It won’t happen again. :)

    Could I also ask that people don’t paste huge loads of links? It’s tiresome and makes a discussion impossible.

  107. Hi Mawatha,

    The causes of the Tamil rebellion is an entirely different topic and far too well known to be gone into again, here. I’d appreciate it if you would at least try to answer my questions to you, which relate directly to the issues raised in this particular blog post. I’m not attacking you personally, merely the position you hold as a supporter of the LTTE, as I’ve noted before.

    In the moral bankruptcy stakes, the LTTE are well ahead of any other group on the Island, including the govt. But let’s get back to the LTTE’s responsibility for holding a vast number to civilians hostage, shooting at them etc. Is it really that difficult for you to admit to that simply fact?

    The Sri Lanka ‘failed state’ argument is one typically deployed by LTTE supporters in a moment of desperate wish fulfillment. Let’s look at the commonly agreed criteria for being a failed state.

    1. Loss of physical control of its territory, or of the monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force therein. No. SL govt is in complete control of the entire island after 30 yrs of LTTE control of parts of North & East and has total monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force.

    2. Erosion of legitimate authority to make collective decisions. No.

    3. Inability to provide reasonable public services. No.

    4. Inability to interact with other states as a full member of the international community. Partial.

    So, I have to give you a C– for that effort. SL has a long way to go before reaching a ‘failed state’ status. Digressing slightly, its interesting to note that Afghanistan & Iraq will be on this list for a long time to come. Now, who was it that ruined those countries? It was the holier-than-thou Western bloc.

    The ex failed state of Eelam now exists only on the Internet and Second Life. Eelam has definitely left the building.

    Thanks for the advice about Arrack. But I prefer beer, specifically Lion Lager. Tiger beer (from Singapore – I wonder if KP misses it?), has lost its’ sharpness and tastes very flat. I think you’ll need the K-R Grief scale more than I do.

    Feel free to try to answer my previous questions.

  108. Director of ‘Vanni TEC’, Thayapararajah was murdered by SL Army.

    Kathirvel Thayapararajah, a Director of ‘Vanni TEC’ and a computer engineer by profession was arrested by Sri Lanka’s Criminal Intelligence Division (CID) recently and according to informed sources he was later murdered.

    Thayapararajah, an employee of ITTPO, a NGO registered both in US and Sri Lanka was murdered in Avissawela, reliable sources said. He was arrested by CID and was interrogated. After interrogation , he was to be produced before courts last week. Unfortunately he was silenced by gun before he could reach court. On 13 September he had been shot.
    Thayapararajah who was admitted to a Colombo hospital with severe injuries died on 15 September. This is yet another extrajudicial killing by Sri Lanka, right activist said.

    Thayapararaja, a very intelligent computer engineer from University of Peradeniya joined ‘Vanni TEC’ immediately after completing his studies and contributed immensely to improve the IT educational standard in Vanni. Vanni Tech was the only institution for Vanni youth to expertise in IT. He educated many youth in Vanni and with their hard work, within a short period Vanni Tec could receive projects from US. – TAMIL NATIONAL.
    http://www.uktamilnews.com/?p=5409

  109. Good day everyone, as a result of the genocide of tamils in Sri Lanka…… A compilation of news about Tamils in Sri Lanka 300,000 Tamil civilians held in detention in appalling conditions 15,000 youths taken away to unknown destination. 30,000 Tamils maimed by government offensive In detention camps 1,400 die each week due to poor health care Army killed 20,000 civilians by heavy artillery in the last days of war UN, NGO's denied access to camps Living conditions in camps appalling Women & girls raped Children seperated from parents Tamils need Justice. How can you help tamils ? Boycott Ceylon Tea Boycott Sri Lankan Cricket Boycott Sri Lankan Airlines Boycott holidays in Sri Lanka Boycott Sri Lankan Garments Boycott spices from Sri Lanka Our news dossier this is a way of get the attention of the local media and politicians. so every week we update the news, and send to the person in charge. It is every humanbeing's responsibility.

  110. Mawatha Silva Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
    Mango,
    You are still trying to weasel out of answering my question, so I’ll ask you again.
    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

    Tamils fought for well over 30 years for equality since 1948 to 1983, but Sri Lanka denied our equal rights in our own country and started the process of genocidal war against us even well before the dawn of Tamil Tigers. Tigers are not the root cause of the long conflict in Sri Lanka. Tigers are mere symptom of chauvinist and terror state of Sri Lanka to defend the rights of Tamils.

  111. Director of ‘Vanni TEC’, Thayapararajah was murdered by SL Army.

    Kathirvel Thayapararajah, a Director of ‘Vanni TEC’ and a computer engineer by profession was arrested by Sri Lanka’s Criminal Intelligence Division (CID) recently and according to informed sources he was later murdered.

    Thayapararajah, an employee of ITTPO, a NGO registered both in US and Sri Lanka was murdered in Avissawela, reliable sources said. He was arrested by CID and was interrogated. After interrogation , he was to be produced before courts last week. Unfortunately he was silenced by gun before he could reach court. On 13 September he had been shot.
    Thayapararajah who was admitted to a Colombo hospital with severe injuries died on 15 September. This is yet another extrajudicial killing by Sri Lanka, right activist said.

    Thayapararaja, a very intelligent computer engineer from University of Peradeniya joined ‘Vanni TEC’ immediately after completing his studies and contributed immensely to improve the IT educational standard in Vanni. Vanni Tech was the only institution for Vanni youth to expertise in IT. He educated many youth in Vanni and with their hard work, within a short period Vanni Tec could receive projects from US. – TAMIL NATIONAL.
    http://www.uktamilnews.com/?p=5409

  112. Director of ‘Vanni TEC’, Thayapararajah was murdered by SL Army.

    Kathirvel Thayapararajah, a Director of ‘Vanni TEC’ and a computer engineer by profession was arrested by Sri Lanka’s Criminal Intelligence Division (CID) recently and according to informed sources he was later murdered.

    Thayapararajah, an employee of ITTPO, a NGO registered both in US and Sri Lanka was murdered in Avissawela, reliable sources said. He was arrested by CID and was interrogated. After interrogation , he was to be produced before courts last week. Unfortunately he was silenced by gun before he could reach court. On 13 September he had been shot.
    Thayapararajah who was admitted to a Colombo hospital with severe injuries died on 15 September. This is yet another extrajudicial killing by Sri Lanka, right activist said.

    Thayapararaja, a very intelligent computer engineer from University of Peradeniya joined ‘Vanni TEC’ immediately after completing his studies and contributed immensely to improve the IT educational standard in Vanni. Vanni Tech was the only institution for Vanni youth to expertise in IT. He educated many youth in Vanni and with their hard work, within a short period Vanni Tec could receive projects from US. – TAMIL NATIONAL.
    http://www.uktamilnews.com/?p=5409

  113. Tamil technologist feared extra-judicially executed in Colombo
    [TamilNet, Thursday, 24 September 2009, 15:33 GMT]
    Kathiravel Thayapararaja, a 28-year old Tamil Electrical Engineer, is feared to have been extra-judically executed by Sri Lanka intelligent services, after being forcefully abducted sometime second week of September, informed sources in Colombo said. Thayapararaja's wife, Uthayakala, and the two children of her diseased sister who were under Uthayakala's care, have now been taken under the protection and care of a Church Organization in Colombo, after being left helpless with the disappearance of her husband, unconfirmed reports said.

  114. Denial, bravado, defiance cannot erase Rights issues – Saravanamuttu
    [TamilNet, Thursday, 24 September 2009, 17:56 GMT]
    Noting a number of rights violations for which Sri Lanka is under scrutiny by the international community, Paikiasothy Saravanamuttu, writes in a Daily Mirror column: “Human rights issues are stubborn ones. They will not go away. They cannot be dealt with by denial, bravado, defiance, conspiracy theories or neglect. Moreover they are indubitably in the national interest and to the detriment of no one other than the perpetrators of violations. At the same time, foreign policy cannot be conducted through allegation and counter allegation, shrill incoherence and what increasingly looks like incomprehension and incompetence. Most importantly governance cannot be served or sustained by conflict and conspiracy, fear, paranoia and insecurity.”

  115. Vanni
    Thanks a lot, dear friend, for very useful information you post here.

    Your links are invaluable in my continues quest to expose the appalling human rights (HR) abuses in Sri Lanka

    Dear Misguided Mango, you gave me a C– for my efforts. Why so high? Please don’t flatter me. The jolly entertainment of SL propagandists is not my aspiration here, albeit the astute ones.

  116. The visa application of the Sri Lanka Minister Keheliya Rambukwella was
    rejected by the Canadian High Commission.

    The British High Commission in Colombo also refused visa recently to top SL diplomat and former Sri Lanka Foreign Secretary Palitha Kohona

    UK introduces war crime clause in visa applications of Sri Lankans. In future, all SL visa applicants to UK have to fill a column on war crime involvements.

    This means that the applicant has to declare his involvements, if any, in war crimes. This is a sequel to allegations of human rights violations leveled against the Sri Lanka Armed Forces and Sri Lanka Government.

    Sources also pointed out that it was significant to note that in the recent past, visa applications of many Sri Lankan government politicos, including their family members.

    The new UN Permanent Representative to Sri Lanka, Dr. Palitha Kohona, had submitted his passport to the British High Commission for a visa to London but to his surprise the passport was returned without any valid reason for turning down his visa application. He later sought an explanation from the British High Commission on the incident.

    The SL diplomat Palitha Kohona had later again sought a visa to London, UK, but the second attempt too was rejected with the UK High Commission.

    An angry UN Permanent Representative to Sri Lanka Dr. Palitha Kohona had made several attempts to contact the British High Commissioner and his Deputy to seek their intervention but they could not be contacted over the telephone.

    The Sri Lankan government is of the view that the British High Commission had violated diplomatic protocols by rejecting a visa for the former Foreign Secretary and felt this had further strained relations between Britain and Sri Lanka.
    Also, Ireland embassy in New Delhi in India has refused visas to 13 competitors from Sri Lanka Armed Forces for the cycling event at the World Military Games 2009 in Ireland.

  117. I do admire the PROFESSIONALISM of many journalists of the leading media AND THE EXPERTS who reviewed the GSP+ for Sri Lanka. The underestimation of the barbarism of Sri Lankan State Terrorism is also quite understandable since neither independent media nor independent aid agencies are allowed to the war zone even after many months of the "victorious ending " of the war. Knowing the environment of these journalists and experts, one cannot expect even their imaginative minds to extrapolate and reach the conditions in Sri Lanka unlike those of us who suffered at the hands of GOSL. So I salute the journalists and experts for saying the truth as they see it and my feelings are like the praise by Karl Marx of the British Professional Class of his times. I have reasons to believe that the Professional Class of UK in particular and the West in general continue to exercise their independence. BUT LIKE MARX, I am not an apologist of the RULING CIRCLES. For that matter, the ruling circles of Sri Lanka's new friends are no better. Who would expect China to follow Mao's Thinking? The Ruling circles of the world believe that the continuation of the PRESENT WORLD ORDER is in their interests AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS, NOR ABOUT THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLES, and NOR ABOUT THE WORSENING PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT. The GSP+ was to have been reviewed long before the war against LTTE was scorching up BUT the ruling circles of Europe who preferred the destruction of the LTTE (not because it was a terrorist organization but because it was a liberation force) continued with the GSP+ PENDING REVIEW while banning the LTTE and coercing the Tamil Diaspora in so many ways. The story is same with all the Western governments. I know of a Foreign Minister who would not open his mouth against Sri Lanka but demanding that the Diaspora to restrain the LTTE! I will not be surprised if the GSP+ follows the same route as the IMF loan. Now what is happening in Sri Lanka is a scramble to share the spoils by the powers of the WORLD and IMF loans, GSP+ and the like are tools in this game. None of these powers are concerned about the human rights of the prisoners of war behind neither the barbed wires nor the Tamils living in the open prisons of the Tamil homeland

  118. Vanni Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
    Mawatha Silva Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
    Mango,
    You are still trying to weasel out of answering my question, so I’ll ask you again.
    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?
    Tamils fought for well over 30 years for equality since 1948 to 1983, but Sri Lanka denied our equal rights in our own country and started the process of genocidal war against us even well before the dawn of Tamil Tigers. Tigers are not the root cause of the long conflict in Sri Lanka. Tigers are mere symptom of chauvinist and terror state of Sri Lanka to defend the rights of Tamils.
    *****************
    Machan Vanni,
    I’m grateful for your lovely links. I’ve read all your posts and they all inspire me. Your tenacity, tireless efforts and raw knowledge of the twisted logic of Racists Sinhalese Mahavansa mindset is impressing.

  119. Good day everyone, as a result of the genocide of tamils in Sri Lanka…… A compilation of news about Tamils in Sri Lanka 300,000 Tamil civilians held in detention in appalling conditions 15,000 youths taken away to unknown destination. 30,000 Tamils maimed by government offensive In detention camps 1,400 die each week due to poor health care Army killed 20,000 civilians by heavy artillery in the last days of war UN, NGO’s denied access to camps Living conditions in camps appalling Women & girls raped Children seperated from parents Tamils need Justice. How can you help tamils ? Boycott Ceylon Tea Boycott Sri Lankan Cricket Boycott Sri Lankan Airlines Boycott holidays in Sri Lanka Boycott Sri Lankan Garments Boycott spices from Sri Lanka Our news dossier this is a way of get the attention of the local media and politicians. so every week we update the news, and send to the person in charge. It is every humanbeing’s responsibility.

  120. Mawatha Silva Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
    Mango,
    You are still trying to weasel out of answering my question, so I’ll ask you again.
    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

    Tamils fought for well over 30 years for equality since 1948 to 1983, but Sri Lanka denied our equal rights in our own country and started the process of genocidal war against us even well before the dawn of Tamil Tigers. Tigers are not the root cause of the long conflict in Sri Lanka. Tigers are mere symptom of chauvinist and terror state of Sri Lanka to defend the rights of Tamils.

  121. Director of ‘Vanni TEC’, Thayapararajah was murdered by SL Army.

    Kathirvel Thayapararajah, a Director of ‘Vanni TEC’ and a computer engineer by profession was arrested by Sri Lanka’s Criminal Intelligence Division (CID) recently and according to informed sources he was later murdered.

    Thayapararajah, an employee of ITTPO, a NGO registered both in US and Sri Lanka was murdered in Avissawela, reliable sources said. He was arrested by CID and was interrogated. After interrogation , he was to be produced before courts last week. Unfortunately he was silenced by gun before he could reach court. On 13 September he had been shot.
    Thayapararajah who was admitted to a Colombo hospital with severe injuries died on 15 September. This is yet another extrajudicial killing by Sri Lanka, right activist said.

    Thayapararaja, a very intelligent computer engineer from University of Peradeniya joined ‘Vanni TEC’ immediately after completing his studies and contributed immensely to improve the IT educational standard in Vanni. Vanni Tech was the only institution for Vanni youth to expertise in IT. He educated many youth in Vanni and with their hard work, within a short period Vanni Tec could receive projects from US. – TAMIL NATIONAL.

    http://www.uktamilnews.com/?p=5409

  122. Tamil technologist feared extra-judicially executed in Colombo
    [TamilNet, Thursday, 24 September 2009, 15:33 GMT]
    Kathiravel Thayapararaja, a 28-year old Tamil Electrical Engineer, is feared to have been extra-judically executed by Sri Lanka intelligent services, after being forcefully abducted sometime second week of September, informed sources in Colombo said. Thayapararaja’s wife, Uthayakala, and the two children of her diseased sister who were under Uthayakala’s care, have now been taken under the protection and care of a Church Organization in Colombo, after being left helpless with the disappearance of her husband, unconfirmed reports said.

  123. Denial, bravado, defiance cannot erase Rights issues – Saravanamuttu
    [TamilNet, Thursday, 24 September 2009, 17:56 GMT]
    Noting a number of rights violations for which Sri Lanka is under scrutiny by the international community, Paikiasothy Saravanamuttu, writes in a Daily Mirror column: “Human rights issues are stubborn ones. They will not go away. They cannot be dealt with by denial, bravado, defiance, conspiracy theories or neglect. Moreover they are indubitably in the national interest and to the detriment of no one other than the perpetrators of violations. At the same time, foreign policy cannot be conducted through allegation and counter allegation, shrill incoherence and what increasingly looks like incomprehension and incompetence. Most importantly governance cannot be served or sustained by conflict and conspiracy, fear, paranoia and insecurity.”

  124. Vanni
    Thanks a lot, dear friend, for very useful information you post here.

    Your links are invaluable in my continues quest to expose the appalling human rights (HR) abuses in Sri Lanka

    Dear Misguided Mango, you gave me a C– for my efforts. Why so high? Please don’t flatter me. The jolly entertainment of SL propagandists is not my aspiration here, albeit the astute ones.

  125. The AIADMK(India) threatened to launch a mass agitation along with like-minded parties if the Union ( Indian) government failed to press the international community to force the Sri Lankan government to put an end to the (Human) rights violations against Tamils on its land.

    In a statement here, party general secretary J Jayalalithaa said that the AIADMK and people of Tamil Nadu expect the Centre to raise its voice against the human rights violations in the refugee camps in Sri Lanka.

    If the Centre does not act immediately, “the AIADMK, along with like-minded political parties, will be forced to launch a mass agitation to focus world vision on the brutal civil liberties violations in Sri Lanka.”

    The former chief minister said “The gruesome footage, reportedly filmed by a soldier on a mobile phone camera, reinforces my earlier claim that civil liberties are non-existent in Sri Lanka and that the Tamil population there is subject to barbaric atrocities at the hands of the Sri Lankan Army.”

    “Sri Lanka claims to be a democratic country, where the rule of law prevails. No democracy sanctions this sort of summary mass execution, where human dignity is wantonly trampled upon,” she added.

    “Even assuming that the persons being shot dead in the footage telecast were LTTE activists, executing them summarily without a trial is barbaric, inhuman and contrary to civilized norms. It also violates international law relating to treatment of prisoners of war.”

    Slamming the DMK government, she said “As such, the AIADMK does not expect the DMK government to even make a whimper of protest against the atrocities being perpetrated upon the Tamil people.”
    http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Tit

  126. The visa application of the Sri Lanka Minister Keheliya Rambukwella was
    rejected by the Canadian High Commission.

    The British High Commission in Colombo also refused visa recently to top SL diplomat and former Sri Lanka Foreign Secretary Palitha Kohona

    UK introduces war crime clause in visa applications of Sri Lankans. In future, all SL visa applicants to UK have to fill a column on war crime involvements.

    This means that the applicant has to declare his involvements, if any, in war crimes. This is a sequel to allegations of human rights violations leveled against the Sri Lanka Armed Forces and Sri Lanka Government.

    Sources also pointed out that it was significant to note that in the recent past, visa applications of many Sri Lankan government politicos, including their family members.

    The new UN Permanent Representative to Sri Lanka, Dr. Palitha Kohona, had submitted his passport to the British High Commission for a visa to London but to his surprise the passport was returned without any valid reason for turning down his visa application. He later sought an explanation from the British High Commission on the incident.

    The SL diplomat Palitha Kohona had later again sought a visa to London, UK, but the second attempt too was rejected with the UK High Commission.

    An angry UN Permanent Representative to Sri Lanka Dr. Palitha Kohona had made several attempts to contact the British High Commissioner and his Deputy to seek their intervention but they could not be contacted over the telephone.

    The Sri Lankan government is of the view that the British High Commission had violated diplomatic protocols by rejecting a visa for the former Foreign Secretary and felt this had further strained relations between Britain and Sri Lanka.
    Also, Ireland embassy in New Delhi in India has refused visas to 13 competitors from Sri Lanka Armed Forces for the cycling event at the World Military Games 2009 in Ireland.

  127. Mawatha & Vanni,

    Still playing the Eelam game? Oh well, keep dreaming of Eelam because that's the only place it'll exist. Mawatha, your inability & unwillingness to confront the LTTE's HR record against the Tamil people they were meant to represent (as self-elected 'liberators') is the most eloquent proof of why Eelam is a dead duck.

    For US readers of this blog, think of the LTTE and their supporters as a mixture of embittered Miami-based anti-Castro Cubans exiles combined with the racists of Aryan Nations. Different skin colour, same ideology.

    So when you read 'Tamil Homeland', just replace it with 'White Homeland in Montana'.

    When you read 'Rights for Tamils', just replace it with 'Rights for Whites'.

    Expect also to read ever more hysterical claims of genocide, mass rapes, SL soldiers eating Tamil babies etc. I'm surprised that Eelamists haven't yet made their own version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

    Here's another nail in the Eelam coffin. A majority Tamil village in Vakari (almost destroyed during the War) being re-constructed & re-launched with real aid from the EU. http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=48588

    The nightmare scenario for Eelamists is SL at peace and under reconstruction.

  128. I do admire the PROFESSIONALISM of many journalists of the leading media AND THE EXPERTS who reviewed the GSP+ for Sri Lanka. The underestimation of the barbarism of Sri Lankan State Terrorism is also quite understandable since neither independent media nor independent aid agencies are allowed to the war zone even after many months of the “victorious ending ” of the war. Knowing the environment of these journalists and experts, one cannot expect even their imaginative minds to extrapolate and reach the conditions in Sri Lanka unlike those of us who suffered at the hands of GOSL. So I salute the journalists and experts for saying the truth as they see it and my feelings are like the praise by Karl Marx of the British Professional Class of his times. I have reasons to believe that the Professional Class of UK in particular and the West in general continue to exercise their independence. BUT LIKE MARX, I am not an apologist of the RULING CIRCLES. For that matter, the ruling circles of Sri Lanka’s new friends are no better. Who would expect China to follow Mao’s Thinking? The Ruling circles of the world believe that the continuation of the PRESENT WORLD ORDER is in their interests AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS, NOR ABOUT THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLES, and NOR ABOUT THE WORSENING PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT. The GSP+ was to have been reviewed long before the war against LTTE was scorching up BUT the ruling circles of Europe who preferred the destruction of the LTTE (not because it was a terrorist organization but because it was a liberation force) continued with the GSP+ PENDING REVIEW while banning the LTTE and coercing the Tamil Diaspora in so many ways. The story is same with all the Western governments. I know of a Foreign Minister who would not open his mouth against Sri Lanka but demanding that the Diaspora to restrain the LTTE! I will not be surprised if the GSP+ follows the same route as the IMF loan. Now what is happening in Sri Lanka is a scramble to share the spoils by the powers of the WORLD and IMF loans, GSP+ and the like are tools in this game. None of these powers are concerned about the human rights of the prisoners of war behind neither the barbed wires nor the Tamils living in the open prisons of the Tamil homeland

  129. Vanni Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
    Mawatha Silva Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
    Mango,
    You are still trying to weasel out of answering my question, so I’ll ask you again.
    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?
    Tamils fought for well over 30 years for equality since 1948 to 1983, but Sri Lanka denied our equal rights in our own country and started the process of genocidal war against us even well before the dawn of Tamil Tigers. Tigers are not the root cause of the long conflict in Sri Lanka. Tigers are mere symptom of chauvinist and terror state of Sri Lanka to defend the rights of Tamils.
    *****************
    Machan Vanni,
    I’m grateful for your lovely links. I’ve read all your posts and they all inspire me. Your tenacity, tireless efforts and raw knowledge of the twisted logic of Racists Sinhalese Mahavansa mindset is impressing.

  130. The AIADMK(India) threatened to launch a mass agitation along with like-minded parties if the Union ( Indian) government failed to press the international community to force the Sri Lankan government to put an end to the (Human) rights violations against Tamils on its land.

    In a statement here, party general secretary J Jayalalithaa said that the AIADMK and people of Tamil Nadu expect the Centre to raise its voice against the human rights violations in the refugee camps in Sri Lanka.

    If the Centre does not act immediately, “the AIADMK, along with like-minded political parties, will be forced to launch a mass agitation to focus world vision on the brutal civil liberties violations in Sri Lanka.”

    The former chief minister said “The gruesome footage, reportedly filmed by a soldier on a mobile phone camera, reinforces my earlier claim that civil liberties are non-existent in Sri Lanka and that the Tamil population there is subject to barbaric atrocities at the hands of the Sri Lankan Army.”

    “Sri Lanka claims to be a democratic country, where the rule of law prevails. No democracy sanctions this sort of summary mass execution, where human dignity is wantonly trampled upon,” she added.

    “Even assuming that the persons being shot dead in the footage telecast were LTTE activists, executing them summarily without a trial is barbaric, inhuman and contrary to civilized norms. It also violates international law relating to treatment of prisoners of war.”

    Slamming the DMK government, she said “As such, the AIADMK does not expect the DMK government to even make a whimper of protest against the atrocities being perpetrated upon the Tamil people.”
    http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Tit

  131. The AIADMK(India) threatened to launch a mass agitation along with like-minded parties if the Union ( Indian) government failed to press the international community to force the Sri Lankan government to put an end to the (Human) rights violations against Tamils on its land.

    In a statement here, party general secretary J Jayalalithaa said that the AIADMK and people of Tamil Nadu expect the Centre to raise its voice against the human rights violations in the refugee camps in Sri Lanka.

    If the Centre does not act immediately, “the AIADMK, along with like-minded political parties, will be forced to launch a mass agitation to focus world vision on the brutal civil liberties violations in Sri Lanka.”

    The former chief minister said “The gruesome footage, reportedly filmed by a soldier on a mobile phone camera, reinforces my earlier claim that civil liberties are non-existent in Sri Lanka and that the Tamil population there is subject to barbaric atrocities at the hands of the Sri Lankan Army.”

    “Sri Lanka claims to be a democratic country, where the rule of law prevails. No democracy sanctions this sort of summary mass execution, where human dignity is wantonly trampled upon,” she added.

    “Even assuming that the persons being shot dead in the footage telecast were LTTE activists, executing them summarily without a trial is barbaric, inhuman and contrary to civilized norms. It also violates international law relating to treatment of prisoners of war.”

    Slamming the DMK government, she said “As such, the AIADMK does not expect the DMK government to even make a whimper of protest against the atrocities being perpetrated upon the Tamil people.”
    http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Tit

  132. Mawatha & Vanni,

    Still playing the Eelam game? Oh well, keep dreaming of Eelam because that's the only place it'll exist. Mawatha, your inability & unwillingness to confront the LTTE's HR record against the Tamil people they were meant to represent (as self-elected 'liberators') is the most eloquent proof of why Eelam is a dead duck.

    For US readers of this blog, think of the LTTE and their supporters as a mixture of embittered Miami-based anti-Castro Cubans exiles combined with the racists of Aryan Nations. Different skin colour, same ideology.

    So when you read 'Tamil Homeland', just replace it with 'White Homeland in Montana'.

    When you read 'Rights for Tamils', just replace it with 'Rights for Whites'.

    Expect also to read ever more hysterical claims of genocide, mass rapes, SL soldiers eating Tamil babies etc. I'm surprised that Eelamists haven't yet made their own version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

    Here's another nail in the Eelam coffin. A majority Tamil village in Vakari (almost destroyed during the War) being re-constructed & re-launched with real aid from the EU. http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=48588

    The nightmare scenario for Eelamists is SL at peace and under reconstruction.

  133. Mawatha & Vanni,

    Still playing the Eelam game? Oh well, keep dreaming of Eelam because that's the only place it'll exist. Mawatha, your inability & unwillingness to confront the LTTE's HR record against the Tamil people they were meant to represent (as self-elected 'liberators') is the most eloquent proof of why Eelam is a dead duck.

    For US readers of this blog, think of the LTTE and their supporters as a mixture of embittered Miami-based anti-Castro Cubans exiles combined with the racists of Aryan Nations. Different skin colour, same ideology.

    So when you read 'Tamil Homeland', just replace it with 'White Homeland in Montana'.

    When you read 'Rights for Tamils', just replace it with 'Rights for Whites'.

    Expect also to read ever more hysterical claims of genocide, mass rapes, SL soldiers eating Tamil babies etc. I'm surprised that Eelamists haven't yet made their own version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

    Here's another nail in the Eelam coffin. A majority Tamil village in Vakari (almost destroyed during the War) being re-constructed & re-launched with real aid from the EU. http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=48588

    The nightmare scenario for Eelamists is SL at peace and under reconstruction.

  134. Dear Misguided Mango,

    How about some “honest “answers -once in a while :) Try it. Maybe you will like it

    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

    ***********************************************************************

    The ruthless Sri Lankan regime slaughtered thousands of the innocents.

    Now International community (IC) is letting the Tamils to languish in the concentration camps is another example that IC has become real hypocrite who has corrupt souls.

    Playing cricket for an example, with a country that is flowing with the blood of the innocent men, women and children, shows that IC no longer has any moral principles to guide our lives.

    IC is now even quite comfortable to sit and has tea with a Hannibal while it’s hands are still stained with the blood and its room is filled with the stink of rotting human flesh.

  135. Vanakkam Mawatham Silvam,

    The 'International Community' in your eyes is your White Western Masters (WWM). Your e WWM also like to think of themselves as the IC. Well, I've got news for you. The IC consists of more than the WWM countries. i.e. the rest of the non-Western bloc countries, most of whom are totally opposed to the Eelam & your struggle. And don't ever forget India.

    Don't you realise that after murdering Rajiv Gandhi (thus making India your eternal enemy), murdering Prime Minister Premedasa and other democratically elected politicians, even your WWM had to distance themselves from your murderous 'struggle'? The IC and your WWM never had any moral principles to begin with. They pay lip service to HR, but every dog in the street knows that the guiding principle of the IC and your WMM is 'Might is Right'.

    Your idiot Sun God's stupidity, naivete and sheer unadulterated terrorism is what led your WWM to abandon him and your struggle. We know Norway tried really hard to save Eelam, but they're an insignificant Northern European country with too much oil money and not enough 'liberation causes' to support.

    Mawatham, you're getting forgetful. You omitted to mention Tamils being 'genocided' in SL. And surely shouldn't you write that 'millions' of Tamils have been slaughtered? Why stop at millions? How about 10 million?

    What's poor old Hannibal done to be disliked by Eelamists? Or do you mean cannibals of the Sri Lanka Army, who, as I type this, are eating Tamil babies.

    And my standard question to you, given that you appear incapable of answering more than one question at a time:

    Tamil Human Rights: explain how your now-deceased Sun God increased and improved Tamils’ Human Rights by conscripting children for the last-ditch defence of his Eelam fantasy and shooting at Tamil civilians trying to escape to the Army lines.

  136. Aayu Bowan, Mango !

    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

    You are again refusing to answer my questions and mistakenly accusing me of not answering yours. Your child like banter is getting tiresome too. I cannot take you seriously, when you are you choosing to ignore the issues and facts at hand

    *********************************************

    The rogue, terror state of Srilanka

    The entire world (UN and the international community, IC) knows that the Rajapaksa government committed war crimes and massacres on a much bigger scale than Srebrenica.

    They are many news organizations (and journalists) that is courageous enough to report the truth especially given the Sri Lanka government is trying their level best to hide the truth from emerging.

    When it emerges slowly albeit surely they are bold enough to report on it.

    If the rogue government of Sri Lanka had any remains of civility, humanity and respect for its own citizens, they would have let international media and aid organizations into the affected areas so that the people that remain there could be saved and the media could engage in first-hand reporting.

    Instead they keep their own 300,000 innocent citizens (defenseless, oppressed and brutalized Tamils) in barbed wire internment camps, intimidate, imprison and murder the local journalists.

    When you have a so-called democratically government that behaves this way, what is there to be doubtful about?

    Do you think they have any interest in telling the truth or bringing justice to the Tamil people?

  137. The AIADMK(India) threatened to launch a mass agitation along with like-minded parties if the Union ( Indian) government failed to press the international community to force the Sri Lankan government to put an end to the (Human) rights violations against Tamils on its land.

    In a statement here, party general secretary J Jayalalithaa said that the AIADMK and people of Tamil Nadu expect the Centre to raise its voice against the human rights violations in the refugee camps in Sri Lanka.

    If the Centre does not act immediately, “the AIADMK, along with like-minded political parties, will be forced to launch a mass agitation to focus world vision on the brutal civil liberties violations in Sri Lanka.”

    The former chief minister said “The gruesome footage, reportedly filmed by a soldier on a mobile phone camera, reinforces my earlier claim that civil liberties are non-existent in Sri Lanka and that the Tamil population there is subject to barbaric atrocities at the hands of the Sri Lankan Army.”

    “Sri Lanka claims to be a democratic country, where the rule of law prevails. No democracy sanctions this sort of summary mass execution, where human dignity is wantonly trampled upon,” she added.

    “Even assuming that the persons being shot dead in the footage telecast were LTTE activists, executing them summarily without a trial is barbaric, inhuman and contrary to civilized norms. It also violates international law relating to treatment of prisoners of war.”

    Slamming the DMK government, she said “As such, the AIADMK does not expect the DMK government to even make a whimper of protest against the atrocities being perpetrated upon the Tamil people.”

    http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Jaya+threatens+massive+agitation&artid=ux2vdQtiHc4=&SectionID=lifojHIWDUU=&MainSectionID=wIcBMLGbUJI=&SectionName=EL7znOtxBM3qzgMyXZKtxw==&SEO=AIADMK+general+secretary+J+Jayalalithaa

  138. Mawatha & Vanni,

    Still playing the Eelam game? Oh well, keep dreaming of Eelam because that’s the only place it’ll exist. Mawatha, your inability & unwillingness to confront the LTTE’s HR record against the Tamil people they were meant to represent (as self-elected ‘liberators’) is the most eloquent proof of why Eelam is a dead duck.

    For US readers of this blog, think of the LTTE and their supporters as a mixture of embittered Miami-based anti-Castro Cubans exiles combined with the racists of Aryan Nations. Different skin colour, same ideology.

    So when you read ‘Tamil Homeland’, just replace it with ‘White Homeland in Montana’.

    When you read ‘Rights for Tamils’, just replace it with ‘Rights for Whites’.

    Expect also to read ever more hysterical claims of genocide, mass rapes, SL soldiers eating Tamil babies etc. I’m surprised that Eelamists haven’t yet made their own version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

    Here’s another nail in the Eelam coffin. A majority Tamil village in Vakari (almost destroyed during the War) being re-constructed & re-launched with real aid from the EU. http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=48588

    The nightmare scenario for Eelamists is SL at peace and under reconstruction.

  139. Massive ethnic cleansing is occurring; the Human Rights Council should act for the Tamils – KAREN PARKER

    UN Human Rights Council at its12th session (14 September – 2 October 2009) in Geneva has concluded general debate on human rights situations that require the council’s attention. Representatives from several countries and NGOs participating in the debate expressed concern about the situation in camps for internally displaced persons in the north of Sri Lanka.

    KAREN PARKER, of International Educational Development, said in her statement that there should be institutional reform and study of the root causes of conflicts as essential to transitional justice. In Sri Lanka, the Government resisted any purview of accountability, and was still prosecuting the war against the Tamil people. The only remedy for the latter was to submit to ever-harsher oppression and abuse. The international community had not looked into the underlying causes of the Sinala-Tamil war for many years. The people were in detention camps because they were Tamil, not because they were civilians. The whole issue of this war was because the Tamil people had sought their right to self-determination, among other rights, and the Government had refused them. Massive ethnic cleansing was occurring, and the Council should act for the Tamils.

    Excerpts from some of their statements are as follows:

    CHRISTIAN STROHAL (Austria) said that no country had a perfect human rights record and all needed to work constantly and self-critically to address their shortcomings and do better for the promotion and protection of human rights. This fact obliged countries to openly address situations that were of particularly concern to them in order to enter into a dialogue on how to improve the implementation of international standards on the ground. Austria pointed to the human rights situations in Iran, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and Sudan, which were all situations where Austria failed to see the necessary political will and determination to improve the protection of human rights effectively.

    JANICE MCGANN (Ireland) said that the situation in Sri Lanka was over but the peace there remained to be won as serious breaches of humanitarian and human rights law had taken place during that war.

    PETER HERTEL RASMUSSEN (Denmark) said the Government of Sri Lanka should fully respect all human rights.

    CHRISTINE GOY (Luxembourg) said that Luxembourg was equally concerned for the grave situation in Sri Lanka with regards to the freedom of expression. The situation of internally displaced persons and the allegations of violations of international law during the armed conflict had not yet been the subject of an independent international enquiry, and therefore required particular attention from the Council.

    MURIEL BERSET (Switzerland) said that the evolution of the situation in Sri Lanka remained of concern to Switzerland which reiterated its appeal. The humanitarian actors needed to be able to conduct their work without constraints. The holding of hundreds of thousands of internally displaced peoples must end and their safe and voluntary prompt return enabled.

    CAROLINE MILLAR (Australia) said Australia remained concerned that over 300,000 civilians remained displaced in camps in northern Sri Lanka.

    REINHARD SCHWEPPE (Germany) said as for the situation in Sri Lanka, Germany stressed that reconciliation was strongly based on the full respect of human rights and urged the Sri Lanka Government to create conditions which ensured the safe and dignified return of all internally displaced persons.

    WENDY HINTON (New Zealand) said In Sri Lanka, New Zealand remained concerned about the situation for those in camps for internally displaced persons. The Government should engage in a reconciliation process taking into account the legitimate aspirations of all minority groups.

    GOTZON ONANDIA ZARRABE, of Franciscans International, said in Sri Lanka, internally displaced persons were not being resettled as promptly nor as safely as the Government promised to the Council, and they continued to suffer within the camps. Human rights defenders, journalists and anyone voicing a differing opinion on the Government’s current policies continued to be the target of violent attacks and harassment by both State and non-State actors.

    LUKAS MACHON, of International Commission of Jurists, said in Sri Lanka, humanitarian aid had been continuously obstructed by Government limitations on access to internally displaced persons and the maintenance of internment camps through unjustifiable restrictions on freedom of movement.

    MICHAEL ANTONY, of Asian Legal Resource Centre, said the Universal Periodic Review was clearly not a sufficient mechanism to address the worst human rights situations in an effective or timely manner. The Council was currently failing to effectively address situations of human rights crisis, such as those in Sri Lanka and Myanmar; this was not simply a failing of political will, but also one of approach. In Sri Lanka, the continuing grave situation of internally displaced persons was testimony to this.

    KAREN PARKER, of International Educational Development, said there should be institutional reform and study of the root causes of conflicts as essential to transitional justice. In Sri Lanka, the Government resisted any purview of accountability, and was still prosecuting the war against the Tamil people. The only remedy for the latter was to submit to ever-harsher oppression and abuse. The international community had not looked into the underlying causes of the Sinala-Tamil war for many years. The people were in detention camps because they were Tamil, not because they were civilians. The whole issue of this war was because the Tamil people had sought their right to self-determination, among other rights, and the Government had refused them. Massive ethnic cleansing was occurring, and the Council should act for the Tamils. There should be a protective presence in Camp Ashraf as soon as possible. The Council should reflect its decision on Honduras in taking a new decision on Myanmar, where a similar situation prevailed.

    SATHLYASANGARY ANANDASANGAREE of Lawyer’s Rights Watch Canada, said so far the Sri Lankan Government had failed to live up to its commitments to the international community. Over 300,000 Tamil civilians were still being held against their will in open prisons and their freedom of movement restricted; clean water, sanitation, food, medicine and the basic necessities of life were in dire need. The Government had also failed to allow independent observers access to the camps. The deteriorating situation in Sri Lanka desperately required the attention of the Council – the international community must demand the unconditional release of the civilians within the 180-day timeline proposed by the Government of Sri Lanka and supported by a majority of Council members.

    NIMALKA FERNAND, of International Movement against all Forms of Discrimination and Racism (IMADR), in a joint statement with Asian Forum for Human Rights; and Asian Legal Resource Centre, said with regard to the human rights situation in Sri Lanka, although the war had arguably ended, the threats to democracy as well as the human rights violations had not diminished. Further, over 250,000 people were living in camps as internally displaced persons and a leading human rights defender had received a death threat for his advocacy with the European Union. Against this backdrop, the International Movement Against all Forms of Discrimination and Racism wished to remind the members of the Council, the concerned Member States, the United Nations Secretary-General and other international institutions, of the various commitments and pledges given by the Government of Sri Lanka. It also called on the Sri Lankan Government to facilitate investigations of all allegations that had been revealed by various media institutions regarding extra-judicial killings. Finally, the International Movement Against all Forms of Discrimination and Racism wished to point out that the implementation of the 13th and 17th amendment was still outstanding and national legislation had not come into effect.

  140. Dear Misguided Mango,

    How about some “honest “answers -once in a while :) Try it. Maybe you will like it

    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

    ***********************************************************************

    The ruthless Sri Lankan regime slaughtered thousands of the innocents.

    Now International community (IC) is letting the Tamils to languish in the concentration camps is another example that IC has become real hypocrite who has corrupt souls.

    Playing cricket for an example, with a country that is flowing with the blood of the innocent men, women and children, shows that IC no longer has any moral principles to guide our lives.

    IC is now even quite comfortable to sit and has tea with a Hannibal while it’s hands are still stained with the blood and its room is filled with the stink of rotting human flesh.

  141. Vanakkam Mawatham Silvam,

    The ‘International Community’ in your eyes is your White Western Masters (WWM). Your e WWM also like to think of themselves as the IC. Well, I’ve got news for you. The IC consists of more than the WWM countries. i.e. the rest of the non-Western bloc countries, most of whom are totally opposed to the Eelam & your struggle. And don’t ever forget India.

    Don’t you realise that after murdering Rajiv Gandhi (thus making India your eternal enemy), murdering Prime Minister Premedasa and other democratically elected politicians, even your WWM had to distance themselves from your murderous ‘struggle’? The IC and your WWM never had any moral principles to begin with. They pay lip service to HR, but every dog in the street knows that the guiding principle of the IC and your WMM is ‘Might is Right’.

    Your idiot Sun God’s stupidity, naivete and sheer unadulterated terrorism is what led your WWM to abandon him and your struggle. We know Norway tried really hard to save Eelam, but they’re an insignificant Northern European country with too much oil money and not enough ‘liberation causes’ to support.

    Mawatham, you’re getting forgetful. You omitted to mention Tamils being ‘genocided’ in SL. And surely shouldn’t you write that ‘millions’ of Tamils have been slaughtered? Why stop at millions? How about 10 million?

    What’s poor old Hannibal done to be disliked by Eelamists? Or do you mean cannibals of the Sri Lanka Army, who, as I type this, are eating Tamil babies.

    And my standard question to you, given that you appear incapable of answering more than one question at a time:

    Tamil Human Rights: explain how your now-deceased Sun God increased and improved Tamils’ Human Rights by conscripting children for the last-ditch defence of his Eelam fantasy and shooting at Tamil civilians trying to escape to the Army lines.

  142. Aayu Bowan, Mango !

    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

    You are again refusing to answer my questions and mistakenly accusing me of not answering yours. Your child like banter is getting tiresome too. I cannot take you seriously, when you are you choosing to ignore the issues and facts at hand

    *********************************************

    The rogue, terror state of Srilanka

    The entire world (UN and the international community, IC) knows that the Rajapaksa government committed war crimes and massacres on a much bigger scale than Srebrenica.

    They are many news organizations (and journalists) that is courageous enough to report the truth especially given the Sri Lanka government is trying their level best to hide the truth from emerging.

    When it emerges slowly albeit surely they are bold enough to report on it.

    If the rogue government of Sri Lanka had any remains of civility, humanity and respect for its own citizens, they would have let international media and aid organizations into the affected areas so that the people that remain there could be saved and the media could engage in first-hand reporting.

    Instead they keep their own 300,000 innocent citizens (defenseless, oppressed and brutalized Tamils) in barbed wire internment camps, intimidate, imprison and murder the local journalists.

    When you have a so-called democratically government that behaves this way, what is there to be doubtful about?

    Do you think they have any interest in telling the truth or bringing justice to the Tamil people?

  143. Massive ethnic cleansing is occurring; the Human Rights Council should act for the Tamils – KAREN PARKER

    UN Human Rights Council at its12th session (14 September – 2 October 2009) in Geneva has concluded general debate on human rights situations that require the council’s attention. Representatives from several countries and NGOs participating in the debate expressed concern about the situation in camps for internally displaced persons in the north of Sri Lanka.

    KAREN PARKER, of International Educational Development, said in her statement that there should be institutional reform and study of the root causes of conflicts as essential to transitional justice. In Sri Lanka, the Government resisted any purview of accountability, and was still prosecuting the war against the Tamil people. The only remedy for the latter was to submit to ever-harsher oppression and abuse. The international community had not looked into the underlying causes of the Sinala-Tamil war for many years. The people were in detention camps because they were Tamil, not because they were civilians. The whole issue of this war was because the Tamil people had sought their right to self-determination, among other rights, and the Government had refused them. Massive ethnic cleansing was occurring, and the Council should act for the Tamils.

    Excerpts from some of their statements are as follows:

    CHRISTIAN STROHAL (Austria) said that no country had a perfect human rights record and all needed to work constantly and self-critically to address their shortcomings and do better for the promotion and protection of human rights. This fact obliged countries to openly address situations that were of particularly concern to them in order to enter into a dialogue on how to improve the implementation of international standards on the ground. Austria pointed to the human rights situations in Iran, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and Sudan, which were all situations where Austria failed to see the necessary political will and determination to improve the protection of human rights effectively.

    JANICE MCGANN (Ireland) said that the situation in Sri Lanka was over but the peace there remained to be won as serious breaches of humanitarian and human rights law had taken place during that war.

    PETER HERTEL RASMUSSEN (Denmark) said the Government of Sri Lanka should fully respect all human rights.

    CHRISTINE GOY (Luxembourg) said that Luxembourg was equally concerned for the grave situation in Sri Lanka with regards to the freedom of expression. The situation of internally displaced persons and the allegations of violations of international law during the armed conflict had not yet been the subject of an independent international enquiry, and therefore required particular attention from the Council.

    MURIEL BERSET (Switzerland) said that the evolution of the situation in Sri Lanka remained of concern to Switzerland which reiterated its appeal. The humanitarian actors needed to be able to conduct their work without constraints. The holding of hundreds of thousands of internally displaced peoples must end and their safe and voluntary prompt return enabled.

    CAROLINE MILLAR (Australia) said Australia remained concerned that over 300,000 civilians remained displaced in camps in northern Sri Lanka.

    REINHARD SCHWEPPE (Germany) said as for the situation in Sri Lanka, Germany stressed that reconciliation was strongly based on the full respect of human rights and urged the Sri Lanka Government to create conditions which ensured the safe and dignified return of all internally displaced persons.

    WENDY HINTON (New Zealand) said In Sri Lanka, New Zealand remained concerned about the situation for those in camps for internally displaced persons. The Government should engage in a reconciliation process taking into account the legitimate aspirations of all minority groups.

    GOTZON ONANDIA ZARRABE, of Franciscans International, said in Sri Lanka, internally displaced persons were not being resettled as promptly nor as safely as the Government promised to the Council, and they continued to suffer within the camps. Human rights defenders, journalists and anyone voicing a differing opinion on the Government’s current policies continued to be the target of violent attacks and harassment by both State and non-State actors.

    LUKAS MACHON, of International Commission of Jurists, said in Sri Lanka, humanitarian aid had been continuously obstructed by Government limitations on access to internally displaced persons and the maintenance of internment camps through unjustifiable restrictions on freedom of movement.

    MICHAEL ANTONY, of Asian Legal Resource Centre, said the Universal Periodic Review was clearly not a sufficient mechanism to address the worst human rights situations in an effective or timely manner. The Council was currently failing to effectively address situations of human rights crisis, such as those in Sri Lanka and Myanmar; this was not simply a failing of political will, but also one of approach. In Sri Lanka, the continuing grave situation of internally displaced persons was testimony to this.

    KAREN PARKER, of International Educational Development, said there should be institutional reform and study of the root causes of conflicts as essential to transitional justice. In Sri Lanka, the Government resisted any purview of accountability, and was still prosecuting the war against the Tamil people. The only remedy for the latter was to submit to ever-harsher oppression and abuse. The international community had not looked into the underlying causes of the Sinala-Tamil war for many years. The people were in detention camps because they were Tamil, not because they were civilians. The whole issue of this war was because the Tamil people had sought their right to self-determination, among other rights, and the Government had refused them. Massive ethnic cleansing was occurring, and the Council should act for the Tamils. There should be a protective presence in Camp Ashraf as soon as possible. The Council should reflect its decision on Honduras in taking a new decision on Myanmar, where a similar situation prevailed.

    SATHLYASANGARY ANANDASANGAREE of Lawyer’s Rights Watch Canada, said so far the Sri Lankan Government had failed to live up to its commitments to the international community. Over 300,000 Tamil civilians were still being held against their will in open prisons and their freedom of movement restricted; clean water, sanitation, food, medicine and the basic necessities of life were in dire need. The Government had also failed to allow independent observers access to the camps. The deteriorating situation in Sri Lanka desperately required the attention of the Council – the international community must demand the unconditional release of the civilians within the 180-day timeline proposed by the Government of Sri Lanka and supported by a majority of Council members.

    NIMALKA FERNAND, of International Movement against all Forms of Discrimination and Racism (IMADR), in a joint statement with Asian Forum for Human Rights; and Asian Legal Resource Centre, said with regard to the human rights situation in Sri Lanka, although the war had arguably ended, the threats to democracy as well as the human rights violations had not diminished. Further, over 250,000 people were living in camps as internally displaced persons and a leading human rights defender had received a death threat for his advocacy with the European Union. Against this backdrop, the International Movement Against all Forms of Discrimination and Racism wished to remind the members of the Council, the concerned Member States, the United Nations Secretary-General and other international institutions, of the various commitments and pledges given by the Government of Sri Lanka. It also called on the Sri Lankan Government to facilitate investigations of all allegations that had been revealed by various media institutions regarding extra-judicial killings. Finally, the International Movement Against all Forms of Discrimination and Racism wished to point out that the implementation of the 13th and 17th amendment was still outstanding and national legislation had not come into effect.

  144. Mango Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 8:08 am
    Mawatha & Vanni,

    " Different skin colour, same ideology.", It is true Mango, there is no difference, can you see any difference between two? http://www.nabble.com/Fwd:-Hitler-Reborn-in-SriLa

    "So when you read ‘Tamil Homeland’, just replace it with ‘White Homeland in Montana’."
    Here little change Mango, It is not white homeland, Now it is Red Homeland
    It is most disheartening to see thousand of our mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, brothers and sisters being brutally killed by the occupying Sri Lankan security forces in the North and the East and enduring long and immense sufferings in the hands of the Sinhalese chauvinism for more than six decades. War criminals and state terrorists hide behind the banner of state.
    Def Sec. Gotabaya’s words
    “Let our soldiers feast on Tamil women while the Tamil men’s blood drip into the ocean and make it red”. Now not only the Red Homeland, but also the beach, Red Beach. On the last day of battle, 1000's of Tamils were buried alive in the bungers. Their voices are still echoing to sky. Sri lanka said "humanitarian mission"? Bulldozing of civilians after the defeat of the LTTE is "humanitarian mission"? , This is Nazi Shinhalla State Terrorism.

    Your next comment, "When you read ‘Rights for Tamils’, just replace it with ‘Rights for Whites’."
    Sri Lanka’s State Terrorism Spreads to Foreign Soil – Extraordinary Rendition? http://www.tamilsydney.com/content/view/2362/37/
    Srilanka called Radika kumaraswamy,louise arbour,Alan Rock,Navaneetham pillai,David Miliband,Hilary Clinton etc.. etc.. as terrorists. They worked for Amnesty International, UN Human right watch, ICRC, Save the childrens ect .. British, France forein ministers….whoever talk human rights will be in this list. GOSL attacked canadian embassy in sri lanka. Deported Bob, many reporters, UN Children’s Fund Spokesperson James Elder….
    Isn't this Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinism of Barbarian, Uncivilized Sri Lankan State persons http://www.barossa-region.org/Australia/Isn-t-thi

  145. Mango Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 8:08 am
    Mawatha & Vanni,

    " Different skin colour, same ideology.", It is true Mango, there is no difference, can you see any difference between two? http://www.nabble.com/Fwd:-Hitler-Reborn-in-SriLa

    "So when you read ‘Tamil Homeland’, just replace it with ‘White Homeland in Montana’."
    Here little change Mango, It is not white homeland, Now it is Red Homeland
    It is most disheartening to see thousand of our mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, brothers and sisters being brutally killed by the occupying Sri Lankan security forces in the North and the East and enduring long and immense sufferings in the hands of the Sinhalese chauvinism for more than six decades. War criminals and state terrorists hide behind the banner of state.
    Def Sec. Gotabaya’s words
    “Let our soldiers feast on Tamil women while the Tamil men’s blood drip into the ocean and make it red”. Now not only the Red Homeland, but also the beach, Red Beach. On the last day of battle, 1000's of Tamils were buried alive in the bungers. Their voices are still echoing to sky. Sri lanka said "humanitarian mission"? Bulldozing of civilians after the defeat of the LTTE is "humanitarian mission"? , This is Nazi Shinhalla State Terrorism.

    Your next comment, "When you read ‘Rights for Tamils’, just replace it with ‘Rights for Whites’."
    Sri Lanka’s State Terrorism Spreads to Foreign Soil – Extraordinary Rendition? http://www.tamilsydney.com/content/view/2362/37/
    Srilanka called Radika kumaraswamy,louise arbour,Alan Rock,Navaneetham pillai,David Miliband,Hilary Clinton etc.. etc.. as terrorists. They worked for Amnesty International, UN Human right watch, ICRC, Save the childrens ect .. British, France forein ministers….whoever talk human rights will be in this list. GOSL attacked canadian embassy in sri lanka. Deported Bob, many reporters, UN Children’s Fund Spokesperson James Elder….
    Isn't this Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinism of Barbarian, Uncivilized Sri Lankan State persons http://www.barossa-region.org/Australia/Isn-t-thi

  146. Mango Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 8:08 am
    Mawatha & Vanni,

    " Different skin colour, same ideology.", It is true Mango, there is no difference, can you see any difference between two? http://www.nabble.com/Fwd:-Hitler-Reborn-in-SriLa

    "So when you read ‘Tamil Homeland’, just replace it with ‘White Homeland in Montana’."
    Here little change Mango, It is not white homeland, Now it is Red Homeland
    It is most disheartening to see thousand of our mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, brothers and sisters being brutally killed by the occupying Sri Lankan security forces in the North and the East and enduring long and immense sufferings in the hands of the Sinhalese chauvinism for more than six decades. War criminals and state terrorists hide behind the banner of state.
    Def Sec. Gotabaya’s words
    “Let our soldiers feast on Tamil women while the Tamil men’s blood drip into the ocean and make it red”. Now not only the Red Homeland, but also the beach, Red Beach. On the last day of battle, 1000's of Tamils were buried alive in the bungers. Their voices are still echoing to sky. Sri lanka said "humanitarian mission"? Bulldozing of civilians after the defeat of the LTTE is "humanitarian mission"? , This is Nazi Shinhalla State Terrorism.

    Your next comment, "When you read ‘Rights for Tamils’, just replace it with ‘Rights for Whites’."
    Sri Lanka’s State Terrorism Spreads to Foreign Soil – Extraordinary Rendition? http://www.tamilsydney.com/content/view/2362/37/
    Srilanka called Radika kumaraswamy,louise arbour,Alan Rock,Navaneetham pillai,David Miliband,Hilary Clinton etc.. etc.. as terrorists. They worked for Amnesty International, UN Human right watch, ICRC, Save the childrens ect .. British, France forein ministers….whoever talk human rights will be in this list. GOSL attacked canadian embassy in sri lanka. Deported Bob, many reporters, UN Children’s Fund Spokesperson James Elder….
    Isn't this Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinism of Barbarian, Uncivilized Sri Lankan State persons http://www.barossa-region.org/Australia/Isn-t-thi

  147. Thanks silva 4 your comments
    Mawatha Silva Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 2:42 am

    Mawatha Silva Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 1:08 am

    International community tested all its arms in vanni through SL. UN is silent and don’t want to go beyond India. World saw the Genocide in 1904 NAMIBIA, 1915 ARMENIA, 1932 UKRAINE 1941-45 the HOLOCAUST, 1975 CAMBODIA, 1982 GUATEMALA, 1994 RWANDA, 1995 BOSNIA & now 2009 in SRI LANKA.

  148. when the total tamil population over 350,000 in the death zone, the government said only 65,000 people in safe zone,india said 70,000. They murdered and maimed over 25,000 civilians in safe zone, brought 192,000 people from death zone to concentration camps. again 165,000 civilians in the fire only zone. Again over 25,000 people were killed & several were buried alive in the bungers on final day. They used bull dozer to collect remains with injured & uesd chemical to destroy the witness. Now people are being killed and dieing due stavation in the concentration camps. GOSL plan to bring the total population in the camps to its original numbers 65,000….. GOSL also said only 200 LTTE remaining, now say 15,000 in their hand…, they may change from 15,000 to 200 by killing daily basis.

  149. Time Running Out for Sri Lanka’s IDPs http://worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=43

    COLOMBO, Sri Lanka — Everywhere in the Sri Lankan capital of Colombo, posters featuring smiling soldiers holding rocket launchers and machine guns celebrate the recent end to the nation’s 26-year civil war. But in the government-run camps that still house more than 250,000 ethnic Tamils displaced by the war’s fighting, the mood is far from celebratory.

    In late August, heavy rains at the largest camp, Manik, flooded tents and led to unsanitary conditions. According to aid worker K Thampu, “The situation was heartbreaking. Tents were flooded and mothers, desperate to keep their children dry during the night, took chairs and tables from school facilities for them to sleep on.”

  150. Time Running Out for Sri Lanka’s IDPs http://worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=43

    COLOMBO, Sri Lanka — Everywhere in the Sri Lankan capital of Colombo, posters featuring smiling soldiers holding rocket launchers and machine guns celebrate the recent end to the nation’s 26-year civil war. But in the government-run camps that still house more than 250,000 ethnic Tamils displaced by the war’s fighting, the mood is far from celebratory.

    In late August, heavy rains at the largest camp, Manik, flooded tents and led to unsanitary conditions. According to aid worker K Thampu, “The situation was heartbreaking. Tents were flooded and mothers, desperate to keep their children dry during the night, took chairs and tables from school facilities for them to sleep on.”

  151. Time Running Out for Sri Lanka’s IDPs http://worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=43

    COLOMBO, Sri Lanka — Everywhere in the Sri Lankan capital of Colombo, posters featuring smiling soldiers holding rocket launchers and machine guns celebrate the recent end to the nation’s 26-year civil war. But in the government-run camps that still house more than 250,000 ethnic Tamils displaced by the war’s fighting, the mood is far from celebratory.

    In late August, heavy rains at the largest camp, Manik, flooded tents and led to unsanitary conditions. According to aid worker K Thampu, “The situation was heartbreaking. Tents were flooded and mothers, desperate to keep their children dry during the night, took chairs and tables from school facilities for them to sleep on.”

  152. Mango Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 8:08 am
    Mawatha & Vanni,

    ” Different skin colour, same ideology.”, It is true Mango, there is no difference, can you see any difference between two?
    http://www.nabble.com/Fwd:-Hitler-Reborn-in-SriLanka-tt22987941.html

    “So when you read ‘Tamil Homeland’, just replace it with ‘White Homeland in Montana’.”
    Here little change Mango, It is not white homeland, Now it is Red Homeland
    It is most disheartening to see thousand of our mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, brothers and sisters being brutally killed by the occupying Sri Lankan security forces in the North and the East and enduring long and immense sufferings in the hands of the Sinhalese chauvinism for more than six decades. War criminals and state terrorists hide behind the banner of state.
    Def Sec. Gotabaya’s words
    “Let our soldiers feast on Tamil women while the Tamil men’s blood drip into the ocean and make it red”. Now not only the Red Homeland, but also the beach, Red Beach. On the last day of battle, 1000′s of Tamils were buried alive in the bungers. Their voices are still echoing to sky. Sri lanka said “humanitarian mission”? Bulldozing of civilians after the defeat of the LTTE is “humanitarian mission”? , This is Nazi Shinhalla State Terrorism.

    Your next comment, “When you read ‘Rights for Tamils’, just replace it with ‘Rights for Whites’.”
    Sri Lanka’s State Terrorism Spreads to Foreign Soil – Extraordinary Rendition?
    http://www.tamilsydney.com/content/view/2362/37/
    Srilanka called Radika kumaraswamy,louise arbour,Alan Rock,Navaneetham pillai,David Miliband,Hilary Clinton etc.. etc.. as terrorists. They worked for Amnesty International, UN Human right watch, ICRC, Save the childrens ect .. British, France forein ministers….whoever talk human rights will be in this list. GOSL attacked canadian embassy in sri lanka. Deported Bob, many reporters, UN Children’s Fund Spokesperson James Elder….
    Isn’t this Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinism of Barbarian, Uncivilized Sri Lankan State persons
    http://www.barossa-region.org/Australia/Isn-t-this-Sinhala-Buddhist-Chauvinism-of-Barbarian–Uncivilized-Sri-Lankan-State-persons.html

  153. Thanks silva 4 your comments
    Mawatha Silva Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 2:42 am

    Mawatha Silva Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 1:08 am

    International community tested all its arms in vanni through SL. UN is silent and don’t want to go beyond India. World saw the Genocide in 1904 NAMIBIA, 1915 ARMENIA, 1932 UKRAINE 1941-45 the HOLOCAUST, 1975 CAMBODIA, 1982 GUATEMALA, 1994 RWANDA, 1995 BOSNIA & now 2009 in SRI LANKA.

  154. when the total tamil population over 350,000 in the death zone, the government said only 65,000 people in safe zone,india said 70,000. They murdered and maimed over 25,000 civilians in safe zone, brought 192,000 people from death zone to concentration camps. again 165,000 civilians in the fire only zone. Again over 25,000 people were killed & several were buried alive in the bungers on final day. They used bull dozer to collect remains with injured & uesd chemical to destroy the witness. Now people are being killed and dieing due stavation in the concentration camps. GOSL plan to bring the total population in the camps to its original numbers 65,000….. GOSL also said only 200 LTTE remaining, now say 15,000 in their hand…, they may change from 15,000 to 200 by killing daily basis.

  155. Time Running Out for Sri Lanka’s IDPs
    http://worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=4354

    COLOMBO, Sri Lanka — Everywhere in the Sri Lankan capital of Colombo, posters featuring smiling soldiers holding rocket launchers and machine guns celebrate the recent end to the nation’s 26-year civil war. But in the government-run camps that still house more than 250,000 ethnic Tamils displaced by the war’s fighting, the mood is far from celebratory.

    In late August, heavy rains at the largest camp, Manik, flooded tents and led to unsanitary conditions. According to aid worker K Thampu, “The situation was heartbreaking. Tents were flooded and mothers, desperate to keep their children dry during the night, took chairs and tables from school facilities for them to sleep on.”

  156. Vanakkam Mawatham,

    So your White Master's team beat SL at cricket. Yes, Eelam is definitely around the corner!

  157. Alfonso,

    A Norwegian minister has the gall to ask for 'war crimes' investigation? You've go to be joking! I'd like to investigate Norway for their proven support of the LTTE.

    This might be a surprise to US readers of this blog, but the Norwegians have been caught red-handed giving financial and military support to the LTTE, via LTTE controlled Tamil 'charities'.

  158. Hi Mango,
    what is your point? New machines to pave over Eelam.

    you have never comment on Topic. always try to mislead the commenters or insulting commenters.
    You better go and check a mentel Doctor.

  159. Vanakkam Mawatham,

    So your White Master’s team beat SL at cricket. Yes, Eelam is definitely around the corner!

  160. Alfonso,

    A Norwegian minister has the gall to ask for ‘war crimes’ investigation? You’ve go to be joking! I’d like to investigate Norway for their proven support of the LTTE.

    This might be a surprise to US readers of this blog, but the Norwegians have been caught red-handed giving financial and military support to the LTTE, via LTTE controlled Tamil ‘charities’.

  161. Vanakkam Alfonso,

    You are doing a great job ! Your input is sorely needed ,dear friend

    Aayu Bowan, Mango.

    Please stay on the topic in hand. Please illuminate me with your answer to:

    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

  162. Hi Mango,
    what is your point? New machines to pave over Eelam.

    you have never comment on Topic. always try to mislead the commenters or insulting commenters.
    You better go and check a mentel Doctor.

  163. Wanni IDPs: The scam continues
    [ Sunday Times ][ Sep 27 01:12 GMT ]
    The whole issue of 'screening', which has dragged on for more than four months, should be stopped. The best proof that the LTTE is no longer a threat in Sri Lanka is the release of top LTTE cadres Daya Master and George Master, who were with Prabakaran almost to the very end. Would the authorities have released them on bail if there were any danger from the LTTE? Hardly. If they can be released, why are lakhs of innocent civilians being detained? Did the President avoid the UN General Assembly because he was unable to answer these questions?

    Wanni IDPs: The scam continues http://www.sundaytimes.lk/090927/News/news_03.htm

  164. Wanni IDPs: The scam continues
    [ Sunday Times ][ Sep 27 01:12 GMT ]
    The whole issue of 'screening', which has dragged on for more than four months, should be stopped. The best proof that the LTTE is no longer a threat in Sri Lanka is the release of top LTTE cadres Daya Master and George Master, who were with Prabakaran almost to the very end. Would the authorities have released them on bail if there were any danger from the LTTE? Hardly. If they can be released, why are lakhs of innocent civilians being detained? Did the President avoid the UN General Assembly because he was unable to answer these questions?

    Wanni IDPs: The scam continues http://www.sundaytimes.lk/090927/News/news_03.htm

  165. Wanni IDPs: The scam continues
    [ Sunday Times ][ Sep 27 01:12 GMT ]
    The whole issue of 'screening', which has dragged on for more than four months, should be stopped. The best proof that the LTTE is no longer a threat in Sri Lanka is the release of top LTTE cadres Daya Master and George Master, who were with Prabakaran almost to the very end. Would the authorities have released them on bail if there were any danger from the LTTE? Hardly. If they can be released, why are lakhs of innocent civilians being detained? Did the President avoid the UN General Assembly because he was unable to answer these questions?

    Wanni IDPs: The scam continues http://www.sundaytimes.lk/090927/News/news_03.htm

  166. Vanakkam Alfonso,

    You are doing a great job ! Your input is sorely needed ,dear friend

    Aayu Bowan, Mango.

    Please stay on the topic in hand. Please illuminate me with your answer to:

    What are the causes for the Tamil Tigers’ armed rebellion?

  167. Please see the online petition at:
    http://campaigns.ahrchk.net/repealpta/

    There is no longer any reason for the Prevention of Terrorism Act in Sri Lanka; on the contrary, there are many compelling reasons as to why it should immediately be repealed. It was the existence of the LTTE that the government used to justify the promulgation and maintenance of the PTA.

    Now, by the very admission of the government this threat has ceased to exist.
    Even at a time of grave danger the PTA was too draconian and many of the provisions in the act could not have been justified. This has been pointed out by local legal opinion, local human rights groups and governments around the world, as well as international human rights agencies and several United Nations agencies and experts.

    After the defeat of the LTTE the government said that elements associated with it could remain, and that some new elements may emerge; yet every country faces this possibility all the time. If this reasoning is used to suspend the operation of a normal legal system then this would need to apply everywhere, forever. Terrorism – even war – is always possible, but if people are willing to abandon their freedoms and their normal legal rights to preempt these possibilities, draconian law will reign indefinitely.

    As long as the PTA remains in operation there is reason to suspect that it is being used by the government for political advantage, as an instrument to perpetuate its own power. Complaints of oppression by the opposition and other dissenting voices will have legitimate weight.

    The Act has effectively aided the destruction of the normal rule of law within Sri Lanka and undermined the independence of its judiciary; indeed litigants, lawyers and even the judges may have started to forget what a strong, functioning legal system is like. To maintain the PTA is to continue destroying what is left. The disadvantages far outweigh the advantage that the government spokesperson may claim that it has.

    An enduring PTA will continue to place the Criminal Investigation Division and the Terrorism Investigation Division beyond the control of the law, with no checks or balances against its abuse of power. Tales of torture being used, charges being fabricated and deaths occurring in places of detention are heard constantly, yet while the PTA exists there is no way to even investigate such allegations, let alone avoid them.

    Sri Lanka’s policing system has collapsed; this is now a fact acknowledged by all. Yet no reform process can be set in motion, and under the protection of the PTA Sri Lanka’s police force will continue to degenerate, its people given no option but to live under its oppression, corruption and arbitrary violence.
    What this means is that literally hundreds of thousands of people will suffer without any legal recourse, and large numbers will continue to live outside the protection of the law. The entire population will be affected.

    It is time for everyone in Sri Lanka and beyond to earnestly request the immediate repeal of the Prevention of Terrorism Act by the Sri Lankan government. The judiciary must no longer be undermined by those with extraordinary power, the rule of law must be revived and all people must be given its protection.

  168. Wanni IDPs: The scam continues
    [ Sunday Times ][ Sep 27 01:12 GMT ]
    The whole issue of ‘screening’, which has dragged on for more than four months, should be stopped. The best proof that the LTTE is no longer a threat in Sri Lanka is the release of top LTTE cadres Daya Master and George Master, who were with Prabakaran almost to the very end. Would the authorities have released them on bail if there were any danger from the LTTE? Hardly. If they can be released, why are lakhs of innocent civilians being detained? Did the President avoid the UN General Assembly because he was unable to answer these questions?

    Wanni IDPs: The scam continues
    http://www.sundaytimes.lk/090927/News/news_03.html

  169. Please see the online petition at:
    http://campaigns.ahrchk.net/repealpta/

    There is no longer any reason for the Prevention of Terrorism Act in Sri Lanka; on the contrary, there are many compelling reasons as to why it should immediately be repealed. It was the existence of the LTTE that the government used to justify the promulgation and maintenance of the PTA.

    Now, by the very admission of the government this threat has ceased to exist.
    Even at a time of grave danger the PTA was too draconian and many of the provisions in the act could not have been justified. This has been pointed out by local legal opinion, local human rights groups and governments around the world, as well as international human rights agencies and several United Nations agencies and experts.

    After the defeat of the LTTE the government said that elements associated with it could remain, and that some new elements may emerge; yet every country faces this possibility all the time. If this reasoning is used to suspend the operation of a normal legal system then this would need to apply everywhere, forever. Terrorism – even war – is always possible, but if people are willing to abandon their freedoms and their normal legal rights to preempt these possibilities, draconian law will reign indefinitely.

    As long as the PTA remains in operation there is reason to suspect that it is being used by the government for political advantage, as an instrument to perpetuate its own power. Complaints of oppression by the opposition and other dissenting voices will have legitimate weight.

    The Act has effectively aided the destruction of the normal rule of law within Sri Lanka and undermined the independence of its judiciary; indeed litigants, lawyers and even the judges may have started to forget what a strong, functioning legal system is like. To maintain the PTA is to continue destroying what is left. The disadvantages far outweigh the advantage that the government spokesperson may claim that it has.

    An enduring PTA will continue to place the Criminal Investigation Division and the Terrorism Investigation Division beyond the control of the law, with no checks or balances against its abuse of power. Tales of torture being used, charges being fabricated and deaths occurring in places of detention are heard constantly, yet while the PTA exists there is no way to even investigate such allegations, let alone avoid them.

    Sri Lanka’s policing system has collapsed; this is now a fact acknowledged by all. Yet no reform process can be set in motion, and under the protection of the PTA Sri Lanka’s police force will continue to degenerate, its people given no option but to live under its oppression, corruption and arbitrary violence.
    What this means is that literally hundreds of thousands of people will suffer without any legal recourse, and large numbers will continue to live outside the protection of the law. The entire population will be affected.

    It is time for everyone in Sri Lanka and beyond to earnestly request the immediate repeal of the Prevention of Terrorism Act by the Sri Lankan government. The judiciary must no longer be undermined by those with extraordinary power, the rule of law must be revived and all people must be given its protection.

  170. Please see the online petition at:
    http://campaigns.ahrchk.net/repealpta/

    There is no longer any reason for the Prevention of Terrorism Act in Sri Lanka; on the contrary, there are many compelling reasons as to why it should immediately be repealed. It was the existence of the LTTE that the government used to justify the promulgation and maintenance of the PTA.

    Now, by the very admission of the government this threat has ceased to exist.
    Even at a time of grave danger the PTA was too draconian and many of the provisions in the act could not have been justified. This has been pointed out by local legal opinion, local human rights groups and governments around the world, as well as international human rights agencies and several United Nations agencies and experts.

    After the defeat of the LTTE the government said that elements associated with it could remain, and that some new elements may emerge; yet every country faces this possibility all the time. If this reasoning is used to suspend the operation of a normal legal system then this would need to apply everywhere, forever. Terrorism – even war – is always possible, but if people are willing to abandon their freedoms and their normal legal rights to preempt these possibilities, draconian law will reign indefinitely.

    As long as the PTA remains in operation there is reason to suspect that it is being used by the government for political advantage, as an instrument to perpetuate its own power. Complaints of oppression by the opposition and other dissenting voices will have legitimate weight.

    The Act has effectively aided the destruction of the normal rule of law within Sri Lanka and undermined the independence of its judiciary; indeed litigants, lawyers and even the judges may have started to forget what a strong, functioning legal system is like. To maintain the PTA is to continue destroying what is left. The disadvantages far outweigh the advantage that the government spokesperson may claim that it has.

    An enduring PTA will continue to place the Criminal Investigation Division and the Terrorism Investigation Division beyond the control of the law, with no checks or balances against its abuse of power. Tales of torture being used, charges being fabricated and deaths occurring in places of detention are heard constantly, yet while the PTA exists there is no way to even investigate such allegations, let alone avoid them.

    Sri Lanka’s policing system has collapsed; this is now a fact acknowledged by all. Yet no reform process can be set in motion, and under the protection of the PTA Sri Lanka’s police force will continue to degenerate, its people given no option but to live under its oppression, corruption and arbitrary violence.
    What this means is that literally hundreds of thousands of people will suffer without any legal recourse, and large numbers will continue to live outside the protection of the law. The entire population will be affected.

    It is time for everyone in Sri Lanka and beyond to earnestly request the immediate repeal of the Prevention of Terrorism Act by the Sri Lankan government. The judiciary must no longer be undermined by those with extraordinary power, the rule of law must be revived and all people must be given its protection.

  171. Please see the online petition at:

    http://campaigns.ahrchk.net/repealpta/

    There is no longer any reason for the Prevention of Terrorism Act in Sri Lanka; on the contrary, there are many compelling reasons as to why it should immediately be repealed. It was the existence of the LTTE that the government used to justify the promulgation and maintenance of the PTA.

    Now, by the very admission of the government this threat has ceased to exist.
    Even at a time of grave danger the PTA was too draconian and many of the provisions in the act could not have been justified. This has been pointed out by local legal opinion, local human rights groups and governments around the world, as well as international human rights agencies and several United Nations agencies and experts.

    After the defeat of the LTTE the government said that elements associated with it could remain, and that some new elements may emerge; yet every country faces this possibility all the time. If this reasoning is used to suspend the operation of a normal legal system then this would need to apply everywhere, forever. Terrorism – even war – is always possible, but if people are willing to abandon their freedoms and their normal legal rights to preempt these possibilities, draconian law will reign indefinitely.

    As long as the PTA remains in operation there is reason to suspect that it is being used by the government for political advantage, as an instrument to perpetuate its own power. Complaints of oppression by the opposition and other dissenting voices will have legitimate weight.

    The Act has effectively aided the destruction of the normal rule of law within Sri Lanka and undermined the independence of its judiciary; indeed litigants, lawyers and even the judges may have started to forget what a strong, functioning legal system is like. To maintain the PTA is to continue destroying what is left. The disadvantages far outweigh the advantage that the government spokesperson may claim that it has.

    An enduring PTA will continue to place the Criminal Investigation Division and the Terrorism Investigation Division beyond the control of the law, with no checks or balances against its abuse of power. Tales of torture being used, charges being fabricated and deaths occurring in places of detention are heard constantly, yet while the PTA exists there is no way to even investigate such allegations, let alone avoid them.

    Sri Lanka’s policing system has collapsed; this is now a fact acknowledged by all. Yet no reform process can be set in motion, and under the protection of the PTA Sri Lanka’s police force will continue to degenerate, its people given no option but to live under its oppression, corruption and arbitrary violence.
    What this means is that literally hundreds of thousands of people will suffer without any legal recourse, and large numbers will continue to live outside the protection of the law. The entire population will be affected.

    It is time for everyone in Sri Lanka and beyond to earnestly request the immediate repeal of the Prevention of Terrorism Act by the Sri Lankan government. The judiciary must no longer be undermined by those with extraordinary power, the rule of law must be revived and all people must be given its protection.

  172. More bad news for Eelamists & their HR fellow-travellers trying to get SL for alleged 'war crimes'.

    It seems that Tim Rieser (Chief of Staff of pro-LTTE US Senator Patrick Leahy) has been consorting with LTTE front organisations masquerading as 'charities'. Oops. Sen Leahey is the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Chairman of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Foreign Operations. Leahy's been a prime mover in the SL 'war crimes' hysteria and trying to block the IMF loans.

    Rieser allegedly maintains a close rapport with five pro-LTTE organizations in the US, which are:
    1. Tamil Sangham
    2. Tamils Against Genocide
    3. Tamils For Justice
    4. Tamils for Peace headed by Dr. Elias Jeyarajah, and,
    5. PERL (Peace for Equality and Relief in Lanka). Tasa Manoranjan, daughter of the leader of the previously proscribed LTTE front, Tamil Foundation, is now a principal officer in the (PERL).

    Though this is hardly earth shattering news to anyone who knows anything about how Eelamists suborn elected officials in the Western bloc.

    Let's see if the Mr Rieser & others who delight in preaching to SL about the glories of openness and transparent governance admit of deny these serious charges. Are Rieser & Leahy poster boys for the Eelamists or not?

    Similarly, is AI in close contact with any of the above LTTE front organisations or been influenced by them?

    p.s. I'll state the obvious: the fact that these groups are pro-LTTE doesn't mean that they always lie. But we should be told of their interactions with HR organisations that are currently pontificating on SL.

    Full report here: http://tinyurl.com/ydkwq4x

  173. More bad news for Eelamists & their HR fellow-travellers trying to get SL for alleged 'war crimes'.

    It seems that Tim Rieser (Chief of Staff of pro-LTTE US Senator Patrick Leahy) has been consorting with LTTE front organisations masquerading as 'charities'. Oops. Sen Leahey is the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Chairman of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Foreign Operations. Leahy's been a prime mover in the SL 'war crimes' hysteria and trying to block the IMF loans.

    Rieser allegedly maintains a close rapport with five pro-LTTE organizations in the US, which are:
    1. Tamil Sangham
    2. Tamils Against Genocide
    3. Tamils For Justice
    4. Tamils for Peace headed by Dr. Elias Jeyarajah, and,
    5. PERL (Peace for Equality and Relief in Lanka). Tasa Manoranjan, daughter of the leader of the previously proscribed LTTE front, Tamil Foundation, is now a principal officer in the (PERL).

    Though this is hardly earth shattering news to anyone who knows anything about how Eelamists suborn elected officials in the Western bloc.

    Let's see if the Mr Rieser & others who delight in preaching to SL about the glories of openness and transparent governance admit of deny these serious charges. Are Rieser & Leahy poster boys for the Eelamists or not?

    Similarly, is AI in close contact with any of the above LTTE front organisations or been influenced by them?

    p.s. I'll state the obvious: the fact that these groups are pro-LTTE doesn't mean that they always lie. But we should be told of their interactions with HR organisations that are currently pontificating on SL.

    Full report here: http://tinyurl.com/ydkwq4x

  174. More bad news for Eelamists & their HR fellow-travellers trying to get SL for alleged 'war crimes'.

    It seems that Tim Rieser (Chief of Staff of pro-LTTE US Senator Patrick Leahy) has been consorting with LTTE front organisations masquerading as 'charities'. Oops. Sen Leahey is the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Chairman of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Foreign Operations. Leahy's been a prime mover in the SL 'war crimes' hysteria and trying to block the IMF loans.

    Rieser allegedly maintains a close rapport with five pro-LTTE organizations in the US, which are:
    1. Tamil Sangham
    2. Tamils Against Genocide
    3. Tamils For Justice
    4. Tamils for Peace headed by Dr. Elias Jeyarajah, and,
    5. PERL (Peace for Equality and Relief in Lanka). Tasa Manoranjan, daughter of the leader of the previously proscribed LTTE front, Tamil Foundation, is now a principal officer in the (PERL).

    Though this is hardly earth shattering news to anyone who knows anything about how Eelamists suborn elected officials in the Western bloc.

    Let's see if the Mr Rieser & others who delight in preaching to SL about the glories of openness and transparent governance admit of deny these serious charges. Are Rieser & Leahy poster boys for the Eelamists or not?

    Similarly, is AI in close contact with any of the above LTTE front organisations or been influenced by them?

    p.s. I'll state the obvious: the fact that these groups are pro-LTTE doesn't mean that they always lie. But we should be told of their interactions with HR organisations that are currently pontificating on SL.

    Full report here: http://tinyurl.com/ydkwq4x

  175. Quote “Additionally, the Council should establish an independent international investigation into violations of international humanitarian law during the fighting between the government and the LTTE.”

    Ummmm… Investigation for crushing a terrorist Organization that was a menace to the world ??

    What is we go to Afghanistan and capture Bin Laden tomorrow and give to USA ? Will we still be investigated ???

    I asked this question several times before in other forums but no one gave a proper answer – Can anyone please suggest any other way to have crushed the LTTE ???

    Don't come up with peace talks because they withdrew 3 times and violated many peace agreements in all occasions.

  176. Mawatham, my LTTE-supporting friend,

    If you're looking for high morals, SL is the wrong place to look. It has a long, long way to go reach the exalted moral high ground occupied by the Western bloc. Undoubtedly there were and are many corrupt officials (including policemen) who were being bribed to free IDPs. What your story omits is that many senior LTTE cadres were also smuggled out, with the help of these corrupt officials.

    But if you know of any specific instances of SLA being involved, send the info immediately to SLA HQ. Contact numbers: http://www.army.lk/contactus.php

    For immediate action, send your info to Gotabaya Rajapaksa secretary@defence.lk

    I'm certain that the current Army Commander, Lt Gen Jayasuriya will wish to maintain the strong anti-corruption practices enforced by his predecessor, and the LTTE's nemesis, Gen. Fonseka.

    p.s. I'm a bit confused by your numbers of IDPs. You say 20,000 have left the camps. You've earlier said that 4,000 are dying every day and an unknown number being murdered. Is anyone still left in these camps?

  177. Human trafficking at the Sri Lankan internment camps is shocking. The Government started to look at IDPs as the ducks laying golden eggs.

    Up to 20,000 IDPs have been ransomed by desperate relatives who are able and willing to pay thousands of rupees to secure their release, and have left the camps

    Many, many reports have now emerged that money is being demanded in Sri Lanka for IDPs to be released and the soldiers are in the thick and thin of it.

    This exposes so-called ‘screening’ of IDPs for what it is: a cover for a lucrative flesh trade, carried out with the collusion of elements in the government and armed forces that get a cut out of it.

    It also explains why the camp authorities refused to release a one-year-old child to leave with its grandmother: since an infant could hardly be suspected of being a dreaded LTTE terrorist or suicide bomber, the reason was surely that a payoff had not been paid.

    In my opinion, that since a one year child cannot pay such money, then it has to be helplessly and hopelessly consigned to the concentration camps.

    High morals in Sri Lanka it seems!? That is the last thing ever present there.

  178. Exactly! During the final offensive, AI and other HR organisations were desperate for a cease fire, reasoning that this would save civilian lives. What they never admitted to was that a ceasefire would've also prolonged the War by another few years, as it would've allowed the LTTE to re-group, retain their heavy weapons and re-start the insurgency.

    Had their advice been taken, they would've prolonged SL's long agony and been the causative agent of even more death and destruction. It's funny how HR works, isn't it?

    Here's something that I'd like investigated by the UN and HR organisations: The extent to which the LTTE was assisted by NGOs and certain Western bloc governments, e.g. Norway, UK et al. If AI was to initiate such an investigation, I'd be less inclined to question their bona-fides.

  179. Mawatham, my LTTE-supporting friend,

    If you're looking for high morals, SL is the wrong place to look. It has a long, long way to go reach the exalted moral high ground occupied by the Western bloc. Undoubtedly there were and are many corrupt officials (including policemen) who were being bribed to free IDPs. What your story omits is that many senior LTTE cadres were also smuggled out, with the help of these corrupt officials.

    But if you know of any specific instances of SLA being involved, send the info immediately to SLA HQ. Contact numbers: http://www.army.lk/contactus.php

    For immediate action, send your info to Gotabaya Rajapaksa secretary@defence.lk

    I'm certain that the current Army Commander, Lt Gen Jayasuriya will wish to maintain the strong anti-corruption practices enforced by his predecessor, and the LTTE's nemesis, Gen. Fonseka.

    p.s. I'm a bit confused by your numbers of IDPs. You say 20,000 have left the camps. You've earlier said that 4,000 are dying every day and an unknown number being murdered. Is anyone still left in these camps?

  180. Mawatham, my LTTE-supporting friend,

    If you're looking for high morals, SL is the wrong place to look. It has a long, long way to go reach the exalted moral high ground occupied by the Western bloc. Undoubtedly there were and are many corrupt officials (including policemen) who were being bribed to free IDPs. What your story omits is that many senior LTTE cadres were also smuggled out, with the help of these corrupt officials.

    But if you know of any specific instances of SLA being involved, send the info immediately to SLA HQ. Contact numbers: http://www.army.lk/contactus.php

    For immediate action, send your info to Gotabaya Rajapaksa secretary@defence.lk

    I'm certain that the current Army Commander, Lt Gen Jayasuriya will wish to maintain the strong anti-corruption practices enforced by his predecessor, and the LTTE's nemesis, Gen. Fonseka.

    p.s. I'm a bit confused by your numbers of IDPs. You say 20,000 have left the camps. You've earlier said that 4,000 are dying every day and an unknown number being murdered. Is anyone still left in these camps?

  181. Reference- Mango Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Aayu Bowan, Mango !

    “If you’re looking for high morals, SL (Sri Lanka) is the wrong place to look.”

    Finally, I agree with you….
    The rest of the time I agree to disagree with you :)

  182. More bad news for Eelamists & their HR fellow-travellers trying to get SL for alleged ‘war crimes’.

    It seems that Tim Rieser (Chief of Staff of pro-LTTE US Senator Patrick Leahy) has been consorting with LTTE front organisations masquerading as ‘charities’. Oops. Sen Leahey is the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Chairman of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Foreign Operations. Leahy’s been a prime mover in the SL ‘war crimes’ hysteria and trying to block the IMF loans.

    Rieser allegedly maintains a close rapport with five pro-LTTE organizations in the US, which are:
    1. Tamil Sangham
    2. Tamils Against Genocide
    3. Tamils For Justice
    4. Tamils for Peace headed by Dr. Elias Jeyarajah, and,
    5. PERL (Peace for Equality and Relief in Lanka). Tasa Manoranjan, daughter of the leader of the previously proscribed LTTE front, Tamil Foundation, is now a principal officer in the (PERL).

    Though this is hardly earth shattering news to anyone who knows anything about how Eelamists suborn elected officials in the Western bloc.

    Let’s see if the Mr Rieser & others who delight in preaching to SL about the glories of openness and transparent governance admit of deny these serious charges. Are Rieser & Leahy poster boys for the Eelamists or not?

    Similarly, is AI in close contact with any of the above LTTE front organisations or been influenced by them?

    p.s. I’ll state the obvious: the fact that these groups are pro-LTTE doesn’t mean that they always lie. But we should be told of their interactions with HR organisations that are currently pontificating on SL.

    Full report here: http://tinyurl.com/ydkwq4x

  183. Vannakam Mawatham,

    I'm sure we'll find more agreement on other matters too. They say a journey begins with a single step. You have to decide whether you journey towards peace and reconciliation in SL or towards unending War. This is perfectly illustrated by contrasting the life trajectories of VP and Karuna. One ended up dead on the muddy banks of the Nanthikadal lagoon and the other a Minister for National Reconciliation.

    If you choose to follow VP's example, I can safely predict a lifetime of pain and suffering and even more misery heaped on the people of SL about whom you claim to care for. I can also safely predict that you personally won't put yourself at risk, but would prefer to indoctrinate and persuade other people's children that an 'Eelam' is achievable.

    Which course are you going to take?

  184. Quote “Additionally, the Council should establish an independent international investigation into violations of international humanitarian law during the fighting between the government and the LTTE.”

    Ummmm… Investigation for crushing a terrorist Organization that was a menace to the world ??

    What is we go to Afghanistan and capture Bin Laden tomorrow and give to USA ? Will we still be investigated ???

    I asked this question several times before in other forums but no one gave a proper answer – Can anyone please suggest any other way to have crushed the LTTE ???

    Don’t come up with peace talks because they withdrew 3 times and violated many peace agreements in all occasions.

  185. Human trafficking at the Sri Lankan internment camps is shocking. The Government started to look at IDPs as the ducks laying golden eggs.

    Up to 20,000 IDPs have been ransomed by desperate relatives who are able and willing to pay thousands of rupees to secure their release, and have left the camps

    Many, many reports have now emerged that money is being demanded in Sri Lanka for IDPs to be released and the soldiers are in the thick and thin of it.

    This exposes so-called ‘screening’ of IDPs for what it is: a cover for a lucrative flesh trade, carried out with the collusion of elements in the government and armed forces that get a cut out of it.

    It also explains why the camp authorities refused to release a one-year-old child to leave with its grandmother: since an infant could hardly be suspected of being a dreaded LTTE terrorist or suicide bomber, the reason was surely that a payoff had not been paid.

    In my opinion, that since a one year child cannot pay such money, then it has to be helplessly and hopelessly consigned to the concentration camps.

    High morals in Sri Lanka it seems!? That is the last thing ever present there.

  186. Exactly! During the final offensive, AI and other HR organisations were desperate for a cease fire, reasoning that this would save civilian lives. What they never admitted to was that a ceasefire would’ve also prolonged the War by another few years, as it would’ve allowed the LTTE to re-group, retain their heavy weapons and re-start the insurgency.

    Had their advice been taken, they would’ve prolonged SL’s long agony and been the causative agent of even more death and destruction. It’s funny how HR works, isn’t it?

    Here’s something that I’d like investigated by the UN and HR organisations: The extent to which the LTTE was assisted by NGOs and certain Western bloc governments, e.g. Norway, UK et al. If AI was to initiate such an investigation, I’d be less inclined to question their bona-fides.

  187. Mawatham, my LTTE-supporting friend,

    If you’re looking for high morals, SL is the wrong place to look. It has a long, long way to go reach the exalted moral high ground occupied by the Western bloc. Undoubtedly there were and are many corrupt officials (including policemen) who were being bribed to free IDPs. What your story omits is that many senior LTTE cadres were also smuggled out, with the help of these corrupt officials.

    But if you know of any specific instances of SLA being involved, send the info immediately to SLA HQ. Contact numbers: http://www.army.lk/contactus.php

    For immediate action, send your info to Gotabaya Rajapaksa secretary@defence.lk

    I’m certain that the current Army Commander, Lt Gen Jayasuriya will wish to maintain the strong anti-corruption practices enforced by his predecessor, and the LTTE’s nemesis, Gen. Fonseka.

    p.s. I’m a bit confused by your numbers of IDPs. You say 20,000 have left the camps. You’ve earlier said that 4,000 are dying every day and an unknown number being murdered. Is anyone still left in these camps?

  188. I saw the awful TV images of a fearsome typhoon in the Philippines in my hotel room. The cities were ravaged, waterlogged calamity zone caused by the tropical storm.

    They remind me of the Monsoon season in Sri Lanka which is expected soon…

    The flimsy tents in concentration camps don’t stand a chance…

    Recently in one camp which is located near the town of Vavuniya the rain fell heavily for much of the afternoon , sent rivers of mud cascading between tightly packed rows of flimsy shelters, overflowed latrines , which have collapsed, sending human waste spilling all over camp.

    This flooding raised fear for the safety IDPs.

    Monsoon rains are expected to begin soon and many aid groups worry that the hastily built camps will not survive the inundation.

    Only three or four hours of rain cause this much chaos, only imagine what a full monsoon can cause.

    The camps occupy vast tracts of formerly forested land near the northern town of Vavuniya. Because the ground on which many of the camps were built was cleared of trees recently, the soil is soft and porous. It turns into mud almost instantly, making it nearly impossible to deliver food, water and medicine.

    Life in the camps was already tough, but the rain has made it almost unbearable.

    The pegs holding down plastic tents have come loose, leaving many families without shelter.

    Some force to stand for many nights as the water which entered the tents. As you imagine it’s difficult to sleep when you are knee deep in the cold water.

    Silt has also clogged water treatment plants that are essential for providing drinking water and preventing the spread of waterborne disease.

    It was a pure hell, a grim scene of mud, squalor and devastation

  189. Reference- Mango Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Aayu Bowan, Mango !

    “If you’re looking for high morals, SL (Sri Lanka) is the wrong place to look.”

    Finally, I agree with you….
    The rest of the time I agree to disagree with you :)

  190. Vannakam Mawatham,

    I’m sure we’ll find more agreement on other matters too. They say a journey begins with a single step. You have to decide whether you journey towards peace and reconciliation in SL or towards unending War. This is perfectly illustrated by contrasting the life trajectories of VP and Karuna. One ended up dead on the muddy banks of the Nanthikadal lagoon and the other a Minister for National Reconciliation.

    If you choose to follow VP’s example, I can safely predict a lifetime of pain and suffering and even more misery heaped on the people of SL about whom you claim to care for. I can also safely predict that you personally won’t put yourself at risk, but would prefer to indoctrinate and persuade other people’s children that an ‘Eelam’ is achievable.

    Which course are you going to take?

  191. I saw the awful TV images of a fearsome typhoon in the Philippines in my hotel room. The cities were ravaged, waterlogged calamity zone caused by the tropical storm.

    They remind me of the Monsoon season in Sri Lanka which is expected soon…

    The flimsy tents in concentration camps don’t stand a chance…

    Recently in one camp which is located near the town of Vavuniya the rain fell heavily for much of the afternoon , sent rivers of mud cascading between tightly packed rows of flimsy shelters, overflowed latrines , which have collapsed, sending human waste spilling all over camp.

    This flooding raised fear for the safety IDPs.

    Monsoon rains are expected to begin soon and many aid groups worry that the hastily built camps will not survive the inundation.

    Only three or four hours of rain cause this much chaos, only imagine what a full monsoon can cause.

    The camps occupy vast tracts of formerly forested land near the northern town of Vavuniya. Because the ground on which many of the camps were built was cleared of trees recently, the soil is soft and porous. It turns into mud almost instantly, making it nearly impossible to deliver food, water and medicine.

    Life in the camps was already tough, but the rain has made it almost unbearable.

    The pegs holding down plastic tents have come loose, leaving many families without shelter.

    Some force to stand for many nights as the water which entered the tents. As you imagine it’s difficult to sleep when you are knee deep in the cold water.

    Silt has also clogged water treatment plants that are essential for providing drinking water and preventing the spread of waterborne disease.

    It was a pure hell, a grim scene of mud, squalor and devastation

  192. Danger of Aid items for distribution to camps, getting perished http://www.lankasrinews.com/view.php?2b34OXl4a3cT

    There is a danger of One and half billion rupees worth of aid items, getting perished, which are to be distributed to displaced people at the refugee camps was according to information. It was mentioned the goods sent by Captain Ali ship from Chennai to Sri Lanka is still lying in the Colombo port for the past months.

    Only the AIR is not blocked for IDP’s. while the SLA were occuping vanni, they removed any Landmine planted by themself too, Now they have LAND in MIND, ethnic cleaning, colonizing Tamil land.

  193. Time will unravel Narayanan’s (covert!) role in the TN fishermen trauma. His covert plan delivered the tragic massacres of the Tamil resistance (LTTE); grooming instead a militaristic Sri Lanka (SL) to serve as the regional policeman to curb destabilizing forces in the Indian sub-continent. Reputed analysts Bhadrakumar (along with Nateri Adigal/Anil Athale) viewed the Narayanan plan as inviting the China threat to India’s soft underbelly, throwing away of the LTTE leverage cheaply and inviting a more invidious threat to TN from a militarized Sinhalese regime using bases/armed camps dotting every inch in the north facing the entire TN coastline. Narayanan’s is thus the grand Colombo-Delhi anti-Tamil plan to subjugate the Tamils for all times.

    The Tamil Nadu fishermen issue – Delhi and Colombo melodramatic charade http://www.groundreport.com/Opinion/The-Tamil-Nad

    'Lankan Navy threatened to kill us' http://www.timesnow.tv/Lankan-Navy-threatened-to-

  194. Danger of Aid items for distribution to camps, getting perished http://www.lankasrinews.com/view.php?2b34OXl4a3cT

    There is a danger of One and half billion rupees worth of aid items, getting perished, which are to be distributed to displaced people at the refugee camps was according to information. It was mentioned the goods sent by Captain Ali ship from Chennai to Sri Lanka is still lying in the Colombo port for the past months.

    Only the AIR is not blocked for IDP’s. while the SLA were occuping vanni, they removed any Landmine planted by themself too, Now they have LAND in MIND, ethnic cleaning, colonizing Tamil land.

  195. Danger of Aid items for distribution to camps, getting perished http://www.lankasrinews.com/view.php?2b34OXl4a3cT

    There is a danger of One and half billion rupees worth of aid items, getting perished, which are to be distributed to displaced people at the refugee camps was according to information. It was mentioned the goods sent by Captain Ali ship from Chennai to Sri Lanka is still lying in the Colombo port for the past months.

    Only the AIR is not blocked for IDP’s. while the SLA were occuping vanni, they removed any Landmine planted by themself too, Now they have LAND in MIND, ethnic cleaning, colonizing Tamil land.

  196. Tamil Nadu fishermen assaulted, driven naked by Sri Lanka Navy
    [TamilNet, Saturday, 26 September 2009, 17:34 GMT]
    Twenty-four fishermen from Keechchaangkuppam in Naakarkoayil area in Tamil Nadu, fishing in Kanniyaakumari seas in five boats Friday night, were brutally assaulted and cast naked in the seas by Sri Lanka Navy (SLN) soldiers, sources in Naakarkoayil said. SLN soldiers had beaten the fishermen on their heads with the ice blocks taken by the fishermen to preserve their catch, the sources added. Fishermen in the coastal areas of Tamil Nadu saved the 24 fishermen who managed to swim ashore Saturday morning and admitted them in the local hospital, the sources further said. http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art

  197. Time will unravel Narayanan’s (covert!) role in the TN fishermen trauma. His covert plan delivered the tragic massacres of the Tamil resistance (LTTE); grooming instead a militaristic Sri Lanka (SL) to serve as the regional policeman to curb destabilizing forces in the Indian sub-continent. Reputed analysts Bhadrakumar (along with Nateri Adigal/Anil Athale) viewed the Narayanan plan as inviting the China threat to India’s soft underbelly, throwing away of the LTTE leverage cheaply and inviting a more invidious threat to TN from a militarized Sinhalese regime using bases/armed camps dotting every inch in the north facing the entire TN coastline. Narayanan’s is thus the grand Colombo-Delhi anti-Tamil plan to subjugate the Tamils for all times.

    The Tamil Nadu fishermen issue – Delhi and Colombo melodramatic charade http://www.groundreport.com/Opinion/The-Tamil-Nad

    'Lankan Navy threatened to kill us' http://www.timesnow.tv/Lankan-Navy-threatened-to-

  198. Time will unravel Narayanan’s (covert!) role in the TN fishermen trauma. His covert plan delivered the tragic massacres of the Tamil resistance (LTTE); grooming instead a militaristic Sri Lanka (SL) to serve as the regional policeman to curb destabilizing forces in the Indian sub-continent. Reputed analysts Bhadrakumar (along with Nateri Adigal/Anil Athale) viewed the Narayanan plan as inviting the China threat to India’s soft underbelly, throwing away of the LTTE leverage cheaply and inviting a more invidious threat to TN from a militarized Sinhalese regime using bases/armed camps dotting every inch in the north facing the entire TN coastline. Narayanan’s is thus the grand Colombo-Delhi anti-Tamil plan to subjugate the Tamils for all times.

    The Tamil Nadu fishermen issue – Delhi and Colombo melodramatic charade http://www.groundreport.com/Opinion/The-Tamil-Nad

    'Lankan Navy threatened to kill us' http://www.timesnow.tv/Lankan-Navy-threatened-to-

  199. Tamil Nadu fishermen assaulted, driven naked by Sri Lanka Navy
    [TamilNet, Saturday, 26 September 2009, 17:34 GMT]
    Twenty-four fishermen from Keechchaangkuppam in Naakarkoayil area in Tamil Nadu, fishing in Kanniyaakumari seas in five boats Friday night, were brutally assaulted and cast naked in the seas by Sri Lanka Navy (SLN) soldiers, sources in Naakarkoayil said. SLN soldiers had beaten the fishermen on their heads with the ice blocks taken by the fishermen to preserve their catch, the sources added. Fishermen in the coastal areas of Tamil Nadu saved the 24 fishermen who managed to swim ashore Saturday morning and admitted them in the local hospital, the sources further said. http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art

  200. Tamil Nadu fishermen assaulted, driven naked by Sri Lanka Navy
    [TamilNet, Saturday, 26 September 2009, 17:34 GMT]
    Twenty-four fishermen from Keechchaangkuppam in Naakarkoayil area in Tamil Nadu, fishing in Kanniyaakumari seas in five boats Friday night, were brutally assaulted and cast naked in the seas by Sri Lanka Navy (SLN) soldiers, sources in Naakarkoayil said. SLN soldiers had beaten the fishermen on their heads with the ice blocks taken by the fishermen to preserve their catch, the sources added. Fishermen in the coastal areas of Tamil Nadu saved the 24 fishermen who managed to swim ashore Saturday morning and admitted them in the local hospital, the sources further said. http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art

  201. I am still waiting for the Answer to my Question….

    ""Can anyone please suggest any other way to have crushed the LTTE ???""

    I see a lot of what they call "Cow Dung" being written here my Silva, but no answer to the question…

    Vanni does nothing but post links on site and it is cluttered mainly due the fact of these links – Can I see Vanni pen some of his thoughts – I am sure he is Intellectual enough to do so.

    Again I would like to see some answers to the question from Silva, Alfonso, Vanni and the "JIM almighty "

  202. Over 300,000 Tamils are being held in Holocaust style concentration camps by the Sri Lankan Government. The camps are similar to those employed by Hitler during Nazi Germany. The Sri Lanka Military has been accused of targetting Tamil civilians and indiscriminatly bombing Hospitals during its military offensive. The Government has now banned journalists, media, and diplomats from the conflict region. The United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Israel, Mexico and all the EU nations are pushing for a war crimes probes.. Aid groups have repeatedly said that abductions, disappearances and rape occurs in these camps as the Sri Lankan Government does not allow full access to aid groups and mediators. The Sri Lankan secretary of Defense has told the BBC that Hospitals are 'legitimate military targets', however under the Geneva conventions, bombing medical facilities are considered war crimes. Hospitals in the conflict zone are now run in make-shift tents throughout the jungle. The Government has now banned all independent journalists and media outlets from reporting on the conflict zone. State-run media outlet's report on the conflict using information from the official military sources. NGO's and worldwide relief organizations see the Government's 'War on the Tamil Tigers' as a disguise for exterminating the entire Tamil race from the island. The Human Rights Watch has labelled the Sri Lankan Government number one for abductions, disappearences and executions."Those who speak out against the Government either go missing or turn up dead", says Dr. Anna Neistat who is a senior emergency researcher for the Human Rights Watch. The Government has now even labelled international media outlets such as CNN and BBC as 'reporting terrorist propoganda'.

  203. • Recent news reports indicate that high ranking Sri Lankan military officials have ordered doctors in Vavuniya hospital to carry out forced abortions on women fleeing the war
    • Reported cases of discrete government- run forced sterilization on upcountry Tamil women since 1997
    • Hundreds of cases of reported rape, sexual assaults, disappearances and torture by Sri Lankan security forces and government backed para-militaries groups. Such acts are used as weapons to demoralize, terrorize communities and break families
    • “On average, a Tamil woman is raped by members of the Sri Lankan security forces every two weeks. The real number is inevitably higher since many cases are unreported. Every two months a Tamil woman is gang-raped and murdered by the Sri Lankan security forces.” NGO, Women Against Rape
    • Embargo on food and water has increased cases of malnutrition and deteriorating health conditions, especially among children and pregnant women
    • Body checks performed at security checkpoints by Sri Lankan male security personnel where Tamil women end up disappearing, being sexually violated, embarrassed or publicly stripped
    • Sri Lankan army videotaped their men violating and stripping bodies of fallen female LTTE fighters in contravention of articles 16 and 17 of First Geneva Convention which outlines the respectful treatment of dead bodies in the battlefield. Given the videos, the perpetrators can be easily prosecuted if the government wills, however no action is being taken.

  204. 61 YEARS OF GENOCIDAL WAR
    ON TAMIL WOMEN HAS:
    • Disproportionately affected them in the context of sexual, physical and psychological violence
    • Inflicted untold sufferings and thousands of deaths
    • Used rape and other forms of sexual violence as a weapon to demoralize, terrorize communities and break families
    • caused the deterioration of essential health structures and has led to higher death counts of pregnant women
    • Increased cases of forced abortions and sterilization
    • Made millions of Tamils refugees, of whom 80 percent are women and children
    • Made 40,000 women war widows who are mostly impoverished and economically vulnerable (United Nations Development Fund for Women)
    • Continued amidst a culture of systemic impunity and has contributed to Sri Lanka being ranked the 3rd worst violator of women`s rights according to South Asia Human Rights Violators Index 2008

  205. Dear Vanni,

    Regarding the above post, where on earth do you get these false information from ? Either you are creating them to mislead the public or you get it from a source that wants to mislead the public…. It is absurd !! Please Stop this nonsense…

    Upcountry Tamils being sterilized ?? Who tells these kind of stories ?? I have seen many kids there even recently… This is planned negative propaganda !!

    I sincerely feel that you guys have a different agenda ! Not good morally or ethically to do so to a nation that is about to rise on their feet… Shame on you !

  206. State terrorism has always been the major problem in this tiny island. It is an ugly and arrogant monster that always keeps his head above the seas and mountains of Sri Lanka. For more than sixty years, successive Sri Lankan governments backed by racist Sinhala extremists have been oppressing the Tamil minorities. They brutally killed thousands of innocent Tamils, burnt their properties and sent the rest in ships as refugees to the North of the country in the fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties. When Tamils asked for their rights, Sinhala extremists always responded with violence. Pearl of the Indian ocean has now become a land of the demons

  207. Sri Lankan leaders are acting exactly like this evil father. Tamils in Sri Lanka are abducted, abused, tortured, raped and killed everyday. state terrorists hide behind the banner of state. Sri Lankan forces bombed and killed more than fifty thousands. Now they have locked three hundred thousands up in Nazi style concentration camps.

  208. Praising the Sri Lankan regime for slaughtering thousands of innocents and letting the Tamils to languish in the concentration camps is another example that we have become real hypocrites and jokers who have bigger mouths, smaller brains and corrupt souls. Playing cricket with a country that is flowing with the blood of the innocent men, women and children, shows that we no longer have any moral principles to guide our lives. We are now even quite comfortable to sit and have tea with a Hannibal while his hands are still stained with the blood and his room is filled with the stink of rotting human flesh.

  209. Vanni,
    Good posts and informative links!! :)
    —————–
    Avichara Says:
    September 29th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    Avichara ,

    Free media will settle all misunderstandings in Sri Lanka.

    However, the independent and impartial press is of a scarcity lately in SL..
    Also, perhaps Avichara , need to wake up and smell the coffee of misinformation .

    The GoSL are clearly turning the country into a fascist state and we (Thamils) are doing well in pursuing this angle in the search for sympathetic ears in the IC.

    You are, Avichara , on the other hand ,preferring the blatant lies and propaganda to verifiable and factual information.

    The displaced Tamils being held captive against their will in these sickening internment camps could use Vanni and Vanni’s honest, tireless help.

    Vanni does not need your nonsense and tripe which you usually served up here.

  210. Mahapare Silva !!

    Excellent that you are there to defend Vanni and also sling some mud at me

    I would also kindly ask you to reply to my question – on suggestions that how else the GOSL could have gotten rid of the LTTE ? How else we could contain the LTTE without the IDP camps and who would take responsibility if Bombs start going off again ??

    The media in SL are independent enough – It is true that some bad things happen to Lasantha etc. But, we still here from many Private channels many things that are against the government which is good. SL never had 100% media freedom during any regime – so this is acceptable.

    Thissa's case was different – He was sent to Jail not because of what he wrote, but because he accepted cash from the LTTE. This has nothing to do with the government as you know the judiciary is independent and it was the judiciary that made the decision. However, I feel that Mahinda R should get involved and at least reduce the sentence (I would like to see him free).

    We don't see anytihing fascist about the government as yet – just that we have a very weak Opposition due to the leader not being accepted by the majority. You will soon see a new leader (May be Sajith P) coming in and turning the tables. But what you need to understand is that MR is currently quite stable.

    By all means the government is trying it's best to create good harmony among all groups. This I know for a fact. So all the mis-info that's going around is nothing but pure negative propaganda created by the Late Prabha's followers !!

    Coming back to the subject, I wish to have the answers to the questions mentioned above…. All of you including the moderator tend to slip out without answering them… Basically I am requesting from you an alternate without carnage !!

  211. Danger of Aid items for distribution to camps, getting perished
    http://www.lankasrinews.com/view.php?2b34OXl4a3cT5AY34deIOog0a03m4BLd4d3BTmA3e0dq0Mmece04cYd52ccaRlYO3e

    There is a danger of One and half billion rupees worth of aid items, getting perished, which are to be distributed to displaced people at the refugee camps was according to information. It was mentioned the goods sent by Captain Ali ship from Chennai to Sri Lanka is still lying in the Colombo port for the past months.

    Only the AIR is not blocked for IDP’s. while the SLA were occuping vanni, they removed any Landmine planted by themself too, Now they have LAND in MIND, ethnic cleaning, colonizing Tamil land.

  212. Time will unravel Narayanan’s (covert!) role in the TN fishermen trauma. His covert plan delivered the tragic massacres of the Tamil resistance (LTTE); grooming instead a militaristic Sri Lanka (SL) to serve as the regional policeman to curb destabilizing forces in the Indian sub-continent. Reputed analysts Bhadrakumar (along with Nateri Adigal/Anil Athale) viewed the Narayanan plan as inviting the China threat to India’s soft underbelly, throwing away of the LTTE leverage cheaply and inviting a more invidious threat to TN from a militarized Sinhalese regime using bases/armed camps dotting every inch in the north facing the entire TN coastline. Narayanan’s is thus the grand Colombo-Delhi anti-Tamil plan to subjugate the Tamils for all times.

    The Tamil Nadu fishermen issue – Delhi and Colombo melodramatic charade
    http://www.groundreport.com/Opinion/The-Tamil-Nadu-fishermen-issue-Delhi-and-Colombo-m_8/2908335

    ‘Lankan Navy threatened to kill us’
    http://www.timesnow.tv/Lankan-Navy-threatened-to-kill-us/articleshow/4328336.cms

  213. Tamil Nadu fishermen assaulted, driven naked by Sri Lanka Navy
    [TamilNet, Saturday, 26 September 2009, 17:34 GMT]
    Twenty-four fishermen from Keechchaangkuppam in Naakarkoayil area in Tamil Nadu, fishing in Kanniyaakumari seas in five boats Friday night, were brutally assaulted and cast naked in the seas by Sri Lanka Navy (SLN) soldiers, sources in Naakarkoayil said. SLN soldiers had beaten the fishermen on their heads with the ice blocks taken by the fishermen to preserve their catch, the sources added. Fishermen in the coastal areas of Tamil Nadu saved the 24 fishermen who managed to swim ashore Saturday morning and admitted them in the local hospital, the sources further said.
    http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=30321

  214. I am still waiting for the Answer to my Question….

    “”Can anyone please suggest any other way to have crushed the LTTE ???”"

    I see a lot of what they call “Cow Dung” being written here my Silva, but no answer to the question…

    Vanni does nothing but post links on site and it is cluttered mainly due the fact of these links – Can I see Vanni pen some of his thoughts – I am sure he is Intellectual enough to do so.

    Again I would like to see some answers to the question from Silva, Alfonso, Vanni and the “JIM almighty “

  215. Mawatham, our LTTE representative,

    For 'nonsense & tripe', Vanni and the rest of you Eelamists are excellent role models. Don't forget to add the customary claim of 'genocide'. And of course your complete inability and unwillingness to accept that it was the LTTE that did the most to destroy Tamil society and children in SL.

    Vanni is the LTTE's latest weapon. A 'cut and paste' Pink Tiger. I'm surprised that SL govt hasn't been blamed for causing Global Warming, yet.

    p.s. what are the latest instructions from Eelam-in-Exile Committee?

  216. Over 300,000 Tamils are being held in Holocaust style concentration camps by the Sri Lankan Government. The camps are similar to those employed by Hitler during Nazi Germany. The Sri Lanka Military has been accused of targetting Tamil civilians and indiscriminatly bombing Hospitals during its military offensive. The Government has now banned journalists, media, and diplomats from the conflict region. The United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Israel, Mexico and all the EU nations are pushing for a war crimes probes.. Aid groups have repeatedly said that abductions, disappearances and rape occurs in these camps as the Sri Lankan Government does not allow full access to aid groups and mediators. The Sri Lankan secretary of Defense has told the BBC that Hospitals are ‘legitimate military targets’, however under the Geneva conventions, bombing medical facilities are considered war crimes. Hospitals in the conflict zone are now run in make-shift tents throughout the jungle. The Government has now banned all independent journalists and media outlets from reporting on the conflict zone. State-run media outlet’s report on the conflict using information from the official military sources. NGO’s and worldwide relief organizations see the Government’s ‘War on the Tamil Tigers’ as a disguise for exterminating the entire Tamil race from the island. The Human Rights Watch has labelled the Sri Lankan Government number one for abductions, disappearences and executions.”Those who speak out against the Government either go missing or turn up dead”, says Dr. Anna Neistat who is a senior emergency researcher for the Human Rights Watch. The Government has now even labelled international media outlets such as CNN and BBC as ‘reporting terrorist propoganda’.

  217. • Recent news reports indicate that high ranking Sri Lankan military officials have ordered doctors in Vavuniya hospital to carry out forced abortions on women fleeing the war
    • Reported cases of discrete government- run forced sterilization on upcountry Tamil women since 1997
    • Hundreds of cases of reported rape, sexual assaults, disappearances and torture by Sri Lankan security forces and government backed para-militaries groups. Such acts are used as weapons to demoralize, terrorize communities and break families
    • “On average, a Tamil woman is raped by members of the Sri Lankan security forces every two weeks. The real number is inevitably higher since many cases are unreported. Every two months a Tamil woman is gang-raped and murdered by the Sri Lankan security forces.” NGO, Women Against Rape
    • Embargo on food and water has increased cases of malnutrition and deteriorating health conditions, especially among children and pregnant women
    • Body checks performed at security checkpoints by Sri Lankan male security personnel where Tamil women end up disappearing, being sexually violated, embarrassed or publicly stripped
    • Sri Lankan army videotaped their men violating and stripping bodies of fallen female LTTE fighters in contravention of articles 16 and 17 of First Geneva Convention which outlines the respectful treatment of dead bodies in the battlefield. Given the videos, the perpetrators can be easily prosecuted if the government wills, however no action is being taken.

  218. 61 YEARS OF GENOCIDAL WAR
    ON TAMIL WOMEN HAS:
    • Disproportionately affected them in the context of sexual, physical and psychological violence
    • Inflicted untold sufferings and thousands of deaths
    • Used rape and other forms of sexual violence as a weapon to demoralize, terrorize communities and break families
    • caused the deterioration of essential health structures and has led to higher death counts of pregnant women
    • Increased cases of forced abortions and sterilization
    • Made millions of Tamils refugees, of whom 80 percent are women and children
    • Made 40,000 women war widows who are mostly impoverished and economically vulnerable (United Nations Development Fund for Women)
    • Continued amidst a culture of systemic impunity and has contributed to Sri Lanka being ranked the 3rd worst violator of women`s rights according to South Asia Human Rights Violators Index 2008

  219. Dear Vanni,

    Regarding the above post, where on earth do you get these false information from ? Either you are creating them to mislead the public or you get it from a source that wants to mislead the public…. It is absurd !! Please Stop this nonsense…

    Upcountry Tamils being sterilized ?? Who tells these kind of stories ?? I have seen many kids there even recently… This is planned negative propaganda !!

    I sincerely feel that you guys have a different agenda ! Not good morally or ethically to do so to a nation that is about to rise on their feet… Shame on you !

  220. State terrorism has always been the major problem in this tiny island. It is an ugly and arrogant monster that always keeps his head above the seas and mountains of Sri Lanka. For more than sixty years, successive Sri Lankan governments backed by racist Sinhala extremists have been oppressing the Tamil minorities. They brutally killed thousands of innocent Tamils, burnt their properties and sent the rest in ships as refugees to the North of the country in the fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties. When Tamils asked for their rights, Sinhala extremists always responded with violence. Pearl of the Indian ocean has now become a land of the demons

  221. Sri Lankan leaders are acting exactly like this evil father. Tamils in Sri Lanka are abducted, abused, tortured, raped and killed everyday. state terrorists hide behind the banner of state. Sri Lankan forces bombed and killed more than fifty thousands. Now they have locked three hundred thousands up in Nazi style concentration camps.

  222. Praising the Sri Lankan regime for slaughtering thousands of innocents and letting the Tamils to languish in the concentration camps is another example that we have become real hypocrites and jokers who have bigger mouths, smaller brains and corrupt souls. Playing cricket with a country that is flowing with the blood of the innocent men, women and children, shows that we no longer have any moral principles to guide our lives. We are now even quite comfortable to sit and have tea with a Hannibal while his hands are still stained with the blood and his room is filled with the stink of rotting human flesh.

  223. Roanoke coordinated conspiracy through the North (GOVERNMENT)
    for a good percentage of my life….+ Government cover up..
    (The US government has done things to put other things on the people's minds)
    -That is what all sports, wars, and television is for . It is all fake.(wwe)
    The U.S. Is just a big act. You can believe nothing they say or what
    you watch.

    -Disabled Vet…=.OWED Money

    Framed, setup, conspiracy, tortured, drugged,
    drugs put on teeth while asleep, collected DNA, Brain damage
    from drugs, who knows what else

    People acting around me, role playing, playing god ETC., coordinating/
    sending things, people

    Doing small things to lower my word and now are switching things around

    My family has stolen my personal items and a vehicle. The police
    refuse to get my vehicle watch.

    Sending people to coordinate things (5 vehicles)(fights) and tell people
    to come and drug me while they watch and they tell them they will let it go

    This also went on through my life from child to teen into adult life
    and has continued.

    Attempting to make it look like something else and thats how they get away with
    these things.

    IE military, police, courts, family, illegal commitment, setup, everyone else's word, Unemployment commission, various employers, People around me all, Veterans
    Affairs,

    They held me down so that i would be forced to be commoner and would not
    be able to live among them

    In an attempt to have me killed, jail, or committed without anyone knowing

    Thus, attempting to draw enough support to have it done without making
    it look like they killed others of British decent.

    Now its commit suicide because they are caught, the north,
    that is.

    Denied college, fucked over in college, fucked over in several jobs,
    watched for years, things done as a child, 5 vehicles lost, broke nose,

    It was done through an undetectable method, with ignorance,
    due to lack of knowledge from the people around me, while making themselves
    look. I knew something was going on but didn't know quite what it was or why.

    They take things piece by piece, and little by little in motel rooms and drug me
    causing brain damage. Short Term. Memory loss for a short term while on and
    for most of the teenager stage. This is also how they do it and get by with it.

    In motel rooms and out of my vehicle.

    They let the yellow and German do things and not the people of the
    British decent while they take our woman. They do this while insinuating suicide.

    The sad part is they don't even know or are money grubbers or are forced.
    There was a fairly recent statement made about enforcement

    They do not follow the constitution, bill of rights, human rights, or the law.

    Refusal to let free American of British decent leave due to tyranny that my constitution prohibits. A foreign element is in charge and an axis of evil has began.

    Flowers in the attic type deal, with the Lion King, and Con Air and some other variables

    There are too many aircraft crashes involving people of British decent, accidents
    in the US involving British decent people, and a military incident that was likely forced by the North.

    I did not have a clue, AS A WHOLE, this was going on from childhood to adulthood. There is no possible way I would have ever known this if it was not done.

    States involved (COORDINTED DOWN)(A BIT UP)
    -COULD BE FBI OR NORTH
    -Virginia #1(whole)
    -Maryland
    -West Virginia
    -South Carolina

  224. Vanni,
    Good posts and informative links!! :)
    —————–
    Avichara Says:
    September 29th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    Avichara ,

    Free media will settle all misunderstandings in Sri Lanka.

    However, the independent and impartial press is of a scarcity lately in SL..
    Also, perhaps Avichara , need to wake up and smell the coffee of misinformation .

    The GoSL are clearly turning the country into a fascist state and we (Thamils) are doing well in pursuing this angle in the search for sympathetic ears in the IC.

    You are, Avichara , on the other hand ,preferring the blatant lies and propaganda to verifiable and factual information.

    The displaced Tamils being held captive against their will in these sickening internment camps could use Vanni and Vanni’s honest, tireless help.

    Vanni does not need your nonsense and tripe which you usually served up here.

  225. Mahapare Silva !!

    Excellent that you are there to defend Vanni and also sling some mud at me

    I would also kindly ask you to reply to my question – on suggestions that how else the GOSL could have gotten rid of the LTTE ? How else we could contain the LTTE without the IDP camps and who would take responsibility if Bombs start going off again ??

    The media in SL are independent enough – It is true that some bad things happen to Lasantha etc. But, we still here from many Private channels many things that are against the government which is good. SL never had 100% media freedom during any regime – so this is acceptable.

    Thissa’s case was different – He was sent to Jail not because of what he wrote, but because he accepted cash from the LTTE. This has nothing to do with the government as you know the judiciary is independent and it was the judiciary that made the decision. However, I feel that Mahinda R should get involved and at least reduce the sentence (I would like to see him free).

    We don’t see anytihing fascist about the government as yet – just that we have a very weak Opposition due to the leader not being accepted by the majority. You will soon see a new leader (May be Sajith P) coming in and turning the tables. But what you need to understand is that MR is currently quite stable.

    By all means the government is trying it’s best to create good harmony among all groups. This I know for a fact. So all the mis-info that’s going around is nothing but pure negative propaganda created by the Late Prabha’s followers !!

    Coming back to the subject, I wish to have the answers to the questions mentioned above…. All of you including the moderator tend to slip out without answering them… Basically I am requesting from you an alternate without carnage !!

  226. Mawatham, our LTTE representative,

    For ‘nonsense & tripe’, Vanni and the rest of you Eelamists are excellent role models. Don’t forget to add the customary claim of ‘genocide’. And of course your complete inability and unwillingness to accept that it was the LTTE that did the most to destroy Tamil society and children in SL.

    Vanni is the LTTE’s latest weapon. A ‘cut and paste’ Pink Tiger. I’m surprised that SL govt hasn’t been blamed for causing Global Warming, yet.

    p.s. what are the latest instructions from Eelam-in-Exile Committee?

  227. Roanoke coordinated conspiracy through the North (GOVERNMENT)
    for a good percentage of my life….+ Government cover up..
    (The US government has done things to put other things on the people’s minds)
    -That is what all sports, wars, and television is for . It is all fake.(wwe)
    The U.S. Is just a big act. You can believe nothing they say or what
    you watch.

    -Disabled Vet…=.OWED Money

    Framed, setup, conspiracy, tortured, drugged,
    drugs put on teeth while asleep, collected DNA, Brain damage
    from drugs, who knows what else

    People acting around me, role playing, playing god ETC., coordinating/
    sending things, people

    Doing small things to lower my word and now are switching things around

    My family has stolen my personal items and a vehicle. The police
    refuse to get my vehicle watch.

    Sending people to coordinate things (5 vehicles)(fights) and tell people
    to come and drug me while they watch and they tell them they will let it go

    This also went on through my life from child to teen into adult life
    and has continued.

    Attempting to make it look like something else and thats how they get away with
    these things.

    IE military, police, courts, family, illegal commitment, setup, everyone else’s word, Unemployment commission, various employers, People around me all, Veterans
    Affairs,

    They held me down so that i would be forced to be commoner and would not
    be able to live among them

    In an attempt to have me killed, jail, or committed without anyone knowing

    Thus, attempting to draw enough support to have it done without making
    it look like they killed others of British decent.

    Now its commit suicide because they are caught, the north,
    that is.

    Denied college, fucked over in college, fucked over in several jobs,
    watched for years, things done as a child, 5 vehicles lost, broke nose,

    It was done through an undetectable method, with ignorance,
    due to lack of knowledge from the people around me, while making themselves
    look. I knew something was going on but didn’t know quite what it was or why.

    They take things piece by piece, and little by little in motel rooms and drug me
    causing brain damage. Short Term. Memory loss for a short term while on and
    for most of the teenager stage. This is also how they do it and get by with it.

    In motel rooms and out of my vehicle.

    They let the yellow and German do things and not the people of the
    British decent while they take our woman. They do this while insinuating suicide.

    The sad part is they don’t even know or are money grubbers or are forced.
    There was a fairly recent statement made about enforcement

    They do not follow the constitution, bill of rights, human rights, or the law.

    Refusal to let free American of British decent leave due to tyranny that my constitution prohibits. A foreign element is in charge and an axis of evil has began.

    Flowers in the attic type deal, with the Lion King, and Con Air and some other variables

    There are too many aircraft crashes involving people of British decent, accidents
    in the US involving British decent people, and a military incident that was likely forced by the North.

    I did not have a clue, AS A WHOLE, this was going on from childhood to adulthood. There is no possible way I would have ever known this if it was not done.

    States involved (COORDINTED DOWN)(A BIT UP)
    -COULD BE FBI OR NORTH
    -Virginia #1(whole)
    -Maryland
    -West Virginia
    -South Carolina

  228. Avichara and Mango!
    Answer my questions and I will answer your questions.
    1. Who are the Thamils in Sri Lanka to you? (discribe)
    2.Is it true that ONLY SINHALA BHUDIST can became Presidant in SL?
    3.Without Democratic election is it possible to give a minister post to somebody in SL?
    4. Why Sinhalees asking asylem in Europe, Aussie,US and Canada?
    5.Sinhala nation starts from Vijaya (mahavamse). Why Sinhala was not spoken in Vijaya's Homeland in Bihar (India)?and how comes that Kannadam, Malayalam Letters in Sinhala?
    6. If there is no Problems for Thamils in SL, Why is that Foriegn ministers of France and Englnd visited SL?
    7. If there is no problem for Thamils in SL, How come that hundreds of thousands of Thamils are accepted as REAL REFUGEES in Elswhere? (Most of these Thamil refugees having 3rd and 4th generation in Europe, Canada and Australia).
    8. Why don't you allow the Vanni mission Gifts to Thamils? (while you CRY for help from diaspora Thamils)
    9. Why Thamil students in Jaffna MUST get more MARKS than the orther students in Sinhala area?
    10. How comes uneducated people become Ministers in Sri Lanka?

  229. Avichara and Mango!
    Answer my questions and I will answer your questions.
    1. Who are the Thamils in Sri Lanka to you? (discribe)
    2.Is it true that ONLY SINHALA BHUDIST can became Presidant in SL?
    3.Without Democratic election is it possible to give a minister post to somebody in SL?
    4. Why Sinhalees asking asylem in Europe, Aussie,US and Canada?
    5.Sinhala nation starts from Vijaya (mahavamse). Why Sinhala was not spoken in Vijaya’s Homeland in Bihar (India)?and how comes that Kannadam, Malayalam Letters in Sinhala?
    6. If there is no Problems for Thamils in SL, Why is that Foriegn ministers of France and Englnd visited SL?
    7. If there is no problem for Thamils in SL, How come that hundreds of thousands of Thamils are accepted as REAL REFUGEES in Elswhere? (Most of these Thamil refugees having 3rd and 4th generation in Europe, Canada and Australia).
    8. Why don’t you allow the Vanni mission Gifts to Thamils? (while you CRY for help from diaspora Thamils)
    9. Why Thamil students in Jaffna MUST get more MARKS than the orther students in Sinhala area?
    10. How comes uneducated people become Ministers in Sri Lanka?

  230. Mango – Don't bother to answer Alfonso until he or any of his representatives answer back – first of all, my questions are in line with the topic and his are in line with achieving Eelam :) !!

  231. The UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) is deeply concerned about reports of security incidents taking place inside camps accommodating internally displaced persons (IDPs) in northern Sri Lanka.

    The most recent incident took place on Saturday, September 26th in the Menik Farm camp, in the district of Vavuniya, when security forces reportedly attempted to stop a group of IDPs from moving between two zones of the camp. This angered the IDPs who subsequently attacked the sentries.

    Security personnel then reportedly opened fire to disperse the mob. Several people are said to have been injured, including a child who was hit by a stray bullet and is now paralyzed. There are also reports of several people being detained following the disturbance. UNHCR calls upon the government to ensure the protection and physical security of the IDPs and to undertake a swift investigation into the event.

    This latest episode reinforces repeated calls by the UN and the international community to the government of Sri Lanka to accelerate the return process and restore freedom of movement for those displaced who choose to remain in the camps. It also shows the need to implement the host family programme that the government has announced, and which the UN has welcomed, which allows citizens to host IDPs.

    Additional efforts are urgently needed to decongest overcrowded camps, particularly as the monsoon season approaches. The rains will lead to flooding of low lying areas of the camps, causing further deterioration of living conditions and posing possible threats to IDPs' health and safety.

    Since June, at the request of the government, UN agencies together with partners have been carrying out work at the Menik Farm IDP sites to prepare them for the rainy season. However, UNHCR has advised the government that the sites are not adequately equipped to cope with the monsoons given the number of IDPs residing there.

    Menik Farm consists of seven zones and is one of 21 closed camps spread across the Vavuniya, Jaffna, Mannar and Trincomalee districts. The camps accommodate more than 250,000 persons displaced by conflict. A government security screening process aimed at separating ex-combatants from civilians means that residents of the camps have no freedom of movement.

    UNHCR acknowledges the government's release of some 15,000 IDPs from the camps since early August, including many vulnerable individuals, either to host families or to their homes as part of its ongoing 180-day return plan. The agency is calling on the government to expedite the screening process and to increase the rate of releases from the camps.

    UNHCR is also concerned about the approximately 3,300 IDPs who were transferred to new closed transit camps in their districts of origin mid-September rather than being returned to their homes. While a brief transit in the district of origin might be required, some IDPs have been in these transit sites for more than two weeks.

    Discussions between the UN refugee agency and the government on the resettlement process are continuing and UNHCR will provide return assistance as soon as IDPs are allowed to return to their homes.

  232. To author -Alfonso
    September 29th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Hello Alfonso,

    Continue to expose the Human Rights Abuses in Sri Lanka. Some here are blocked by Moderators. Ignore the Sinhalese Propagandists. They are only here to hurt you. Please, don’t respond to their insults and not valid questions. Eventually the Moderator prohibit them.

    You have valid points here.

    My responses:

    6. If there are no problems for Thamils in (Sri Lanka)SL, why are the foreign ministers of France and England visited SL?
    There are HUGE problems for the Thamils in Sri Lanka.
    For starters: 280 000 of them in internment camps.

  233. LOL

    Another mouth piece…

    This again shows it is one sided.

    You can question us, but we can't question you !!

    There is a place called Galle face in Sri Lanka which is good to fly kites – Recommend you go there !!

    Why should any external party be interested in matters of Sri Lanka? Do we go poke our fingers in to their affairs ?? We didn't tell Napolian not to attack the neighboring countries or England to attack 3/4 of the world and spoil their heritage ??

    Internment camps – the idea behind all of these blogs – My question is in line with this topic – Give another option to not having the camps ??

  234. This is what you do all the time right ?? This time, I shall not answer any of your questions -

    I ASKED U FIRST !! – YOu reply and then I will answer you !!

  235. Mango – Don’t bother to answer Alfonso until he or any of his representatives answer back – first of all, my questions are in line with the topic and his are in line with achieving Eelam :) !!

  236. The UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) is deeply concerned about reports of security incidents taking place inside camps accommodating internally displaced persons (IDPs) in northern Sri Lanka.

    The most recent incident took place on Saturday, September 26th in the Menik Farm camp, in the district of Vavuniya, when security forces reportedly attempted to stop a group of IDPs from moving between two zones of the camp. This angered the IDPs who subsequently attacked the sentries.

    Security personnel then reportedly opened fire to disperse the mob. Several people are said to have been injured, including a child who was hit by a stray bullet and is now paralyzed. There are also reports of several people being detained following the disturbance. UNHCR calls upon the government to ensure the protection and physical security of the IDPs and to undertake a swift investigation into the event.

    This latest episode reinforces repeated calls by the UN and the international community to the government of Sri Lanka to accelerate the return process and restore freedom of movement for those displaced who choose to remain in the camps. It also shows the need to implement the host family programme that the government has announced, and which the UN has welcomed, which allows citizens to host IDPs.

    Additional efforts are urgently needed to decongest overcrowded camps, particularly as the monsoon season approaches. The rains will lead to flooding of low lying areas of the camps, causing further deterioration of living conditions and posing possible threats to IDPs’ health and safety.

    Since June, at the request of the government, UN agencies together with partners have been carrying out work at the Menik Farm IDP sites to prepare them for the rainy season. However, UNHCR has advised the government that the sites are not adequately equipped to cope with the monsoons given the number of IDPs residing there.

    Menik Farm consists of seven zones and is one of 21 closed camps spread across the Vavuniya, Jaffna, Mannar and Trincomalee districts. The camps accommodate more than 250,000 persons displaced by conflict. A government security screening process aimed at separating ex-combatants from civilians means that residents of the camps have no freedom of movement.

    UNHCR acknowledges the government’s release of some 15,000 IDPs from the camps since early August, including many vulnerable individuals, either to host families or to their homes as part of its ongoing 180-day return plan. The agency is calling on the government to expedite the screening process and to increase the rate of releases from the camps.

    UNHCR is also concerned about the approximately 3,300 IDPs who were transferred to new closed transit camps in their districts of origin mid-September rather than being returned to their homes. While a brief transit in the district of origin might be required, some IDPs have been in these transit sites for more than two weeks.

    Discussions between the UN refugee agency and the government on the resettlement process are continuing and UNHCR will provide return assistance as soon as IDPs are allowed to return to their homes.

  237. Aaaaa… mmmm… Gardin – I think you are still in Wonderland !

    Sri Lankan does not have any of what you have mentioned in your post. It was true about 5 months back in the northern region when it was under LTTE’s Prabhakaran’s control. But now the whole Island is peaceful and ruled by a democratically elected government and an executive president whom the majority of the people love !

    If having 300,000 is illegal, the country’s judiciary system (which is decedent of the English Judiciary) will take necessary steps to prevent having them. It is strong enough to send corrupt Army Officials, Politicians and Policemen to Jail and is an independent body which even ruled against presidential orders.

    The general elections and the presidential elections are on it’s way – few more months. You will definitely realize to yourself whether the country is democratic or not !

    All we know is that we are living in a trouble free country after almost 1/2 of a century !!

  238. Over 300,000 innocent Tamil civilians are imprisoned in concentrations camps in Sri Lanka and a leading human rights defender had received a death threat for his advocacy with the European Union. Against this backdrop, the International Movement Against all Forms of Discrimination and Racism wished to remind the members of the Council, the concerned Member States, the United Nations Secretary-General and other international institutions, of the various commitments and pledges given by the Government of Sri Lanka. It also called on the Sri Lankan Government to facilitate investigations of all allegations that had been revealed by various media institutions regarding extra-judicial killings. Finally, the International Movement Against all Forms of Discrimination and Racism wished to point out that the implementation of the 13th and 17th amendment was still outstanding and national legislation had not come into effect.

  239. To author -Alfonso
    September 29th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Hello Alfonso,

    Continue to expose the Human Rights Abuses in Sri Lanka. Some here are blocked by Moderators. Ignore the Sinhalese Propagandists. They are only here to hurt you. Please, don’t respond to their insults and not valid questions. Eventually the Moderator prohibit them.

    You have valid points here.

    My responses:

    6. If there are no problems for Thamils in (Sri Lanka)SL, why are the foreign ministers of France and England visited SL?
    There are HUGE problems for the Thamils in Sri Lanka.
    For starters: 280 000 of them in internment camps.

  240. LOL

    Another mouth piece…

    This again shows it is one sided.

    You can question us, but we can’t question you !!

    There is a place called Galle face in Sri Lanka which is good to fly kites – Recommend you go there !!

    Why should any external party be interested in matters of Sri Lanka? Do we go poke our fingers in to their affairs ?? We didn’t tell Napolian not to attack the neighboring countries or England to attack 3/4 of the world and spoil their heritage ??

    Internment camps – the idea behind all of these blogs – My question is in line with this topic – Give another option to not having the camps ??

  241. Sri Lanka is a Gulag Island

    Unlawful imprisonment of 300 000 innocent Tamil civilians in concentration camps is one of the reasons why i think that Sri Lanka is a gulag island
    The concept of the gulag ever since Alexander Solzhenitsyn used it in his book “Gulag Archipelago” (1918 – 1956), has come to mean a particular system of repression imposed within a whole country which has some definite characteristics. These characteristics may be described thus:

    1.The loss of the meaning of legality within a particular country.
    2.A predominant position played by a security apparatus which can virtually do whatever function relating to life and liberty of citizens without being bound by any rules.
    3.The emergence of a propaganda apparatus which is not bound by any rules relating to truth or falsehood; in fact, the meaning of any distinction between truth and falsehood disappears.
    4.The emergence of a superman controller who manipulates all the three elements mentioned above in any way that he wishes.
    5.A doomed citizenry who keep on believing that nothing has really changed while, in fact, everything has changed and who are unable to control their own destinies in any significant manner. One particular section of citizens may by suffering the worst at a particular time, but, in fact, the entire population of the country is affected more or less with the same degree of intensity but at different times.
    The position on which this article is based is that Sri Lanka is now such a gulag. All the above mentioned characteristics are now quite prominently visible within Sri Lanka. However, a phantom limb complex still continues to exist. The people wish to believe that the old legal system and the social system are still intact despite of some unhappy new aspects that cannot be denied.

  242. Aaaaa… mmmm… Gardin – I think you are still in Wonderland !

    Sri Lankan does not have any of what you have mentioned in your post. It was true about 5 months back in the northern region when it was under LTTE’s Prabhakaran’s control. But now the whole Island is peaceful and ruled by a democratically elected government and an executive president whom the majority of the people love !

    If having 300,000 is illegal, the country’s judiciary system (which is decedent of the English Judiciary) will take necessary steps to prevent having them. It is strong enough to send corrupt Army Officials, Politicians and Policemen to Jail and is an independent body which even ruled against presidential orders.

    The general elections and the presidential elections are on it’s way – few more months. You will definitely realize to yourself whether the country is democratic or not !

    All we know is that we are living in a trouble free country after almost 1/2 of a century !!

  243. Over 300,000 innocent Tamil civilians are imprisoned in concentrations camps in Sri Lanka and a leading human rights defender had received a death threat for his advocacy with the European Union. Against this backdrop, the International Movement Against all Forms of Discrimination and Racism wished to remind the members of the Council, the concerned Member States, the United Nations Secretary-General and other international institutions, of the various commitments and pledges given by the Government of Sri Lanka. It also called on the Sri Lankan Government to facilitate investigations of all allegations that had been revealed by various media institutions regarding extra-judicial killings. Finally, the International Movement Against all Forms of Discrimination and Racism wished to point out that the implementation of the 13th and 17th amendment was still outstanding and national legislation had not come into effect.

  244. Vavuniyaa camps meant for detainees, not for IDPs – JVP

    “It is not a refugee camp if inmates are escaping from that in large numbers. Then it should be called a detention or internment camp. IDP families have freedom to move in and out from IDP camps which are established under international norms. It is not so in Vavuniyaa camps, Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna (JVP) parliamentarian Wijitha Herat, said at a press briefing held at JVP headquarters in Battaramulla in Colombo Wednesday to discuss matters about the plight of IDPs in Vavuniyaa camps.

    Wijitha Herat further said at the briefing that the government has been saying that it could not resettle IDPs held in Vavuniyaa camps as their villages in Vanni region are not completely de-mined.

    At that same the government is issuing statements to the effect that it has launched several development projects in Ki’linochchi, Mannaar, Jaffna and Vavuniyaa including restoration of electricity supply under the title “Northern Spring “(Vaddakkin Vasantham).

    “How could the government launch development projects in areas which are still sown with mines. Hence the government’s stand on resettlement is contradictory,” he asked.

    “My party accepts that there are some areas in Vanni infested with mines. But there are vast areas without mines. The government can resettle large numbers IDP families in these mine-free areas. The international community is trying to interfere in the internal affairs of our country under the pretext of safeguarding IDPs in Vavuniyaa. This would be possible once the northeast monsoon commences. Therefore the government should not give room for such interference,” Mr. Wijitha Herat said.

  245. Five Tamil and Muslim party leaders in a joint communique issued Wednesday stated that “the forcible detention of hundreds of thousands of Tamil citizens of Sri Lanka in camps for Internally Displaced Persons is illegal, without basis in the Constitution and in gross violation of international human rights norms,” and called for immediate action to “end to military administration and restrictions placed on civilians, and we urge the restoration of full civilian administration to facilitate return to economic and social normality.”

    Full text of the statement follows:

    Let Our People Free!

    The Tamil speaking peoples of Sri Lanka have suffered great hardships for many decades since Independence. They have faced discrimination and had to suffer ethnic riots, pogroms and ethnic cleansing; in the pogrom in 1983 sections of the state were involved. In the last thirty four years Sri Lanka was consumed by an ethnic civil war in which the Tamil and Muslim people and others in the North and East and elsewhere were victims. The Tamils in particular bore the brunt of the suffering. During the last stages of the war the people of the Vanni suffered traumatic pain which, despite the conclusive end of the war, has still not abated. While we are deeply concerned about the human rights violations everywhere in our island such as death threats, the killing of civilians, and the disappearance of journalists and others, we feel the need to prioritise in this communiqué such collective and unbearable pain of large numbers of our population as compels immediate intervention.

    We the undersigned affirm the following and call for an immediate end to these intolerable conditions, and in particular:
    We state that the forcible detention of hundreds of thousands of Tamil citizens of Sri Lanka in camps for Internally Displaced Persons is illegal, without basis in the Constitution and in gross violation of international human rights norms.
    These people should be released immediately to return to their homes and permitted to resume without hindrance their traditional livelihood activities such as farming and fishing, or to take up residence with friends and relatives, or to exercise their lawful right to abode elsewhere at their discretion. Those likely to face criminal charges should be produced in a court of law without further delay.
    We strongly urge that the camps, for so long as they exist, should be open to relatives, religious functionaries, parliamentarians, provincial councillors, civil society, UN agencies, journalists, and national and international aid and humanitarian organisations.
    We urge that immediate arrangements be made to allow the Muslim people who were evicted from the North and have suffered acute hardships for nearly two decades to return to their homes and to resume their economic and social activities without hindrance.
    Similar arrangements must be made to re-settle in their original homes all those in the East, who remain displaced and continue to suffer greatly.
    The restrictions on movement in and out of the Northern Province and some locations in the East should be lifted and the need for permits to enter or leave should be rescinded forthwith. In particular, any form of quarantine of the Northern Province is a violation of basic rights and should be lifted.
    The curfew and other restrictions on normality in many parts of the Northern Province and elsewhere are unjustified and we demand that normality be returned without delay. People in certain parts of the country live in fear, avoid even essential travel, and are inhibited in employment related and social activities.
    We call for an end to military administration and restrictions placed on civilians, and we urge the restoration of full civilian administration to facilitate return to economic and social normality.
    R. Sampanthan, M.P, Leader, ITAK, Leader, TNA
    Mano Ganesan, M.P., Leader, DPF
    Rauff Hakeem, M.P., Leader, SLMC
    V.Anandasangaree, Leader, TULF
    K. Vigneswaran, Leader, AITUF

  246. Vavuniyaa camps meant for detainees, not for IDPs – JVP

    “It is not a refugee camp if inmates are escaping from that in large numbers. Then it should be called a detention or internment camp. IDP families have freedom to move in and out from IDP camps which are established under international norms. It is not so in Vavuniyaa camps, Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna (JVP) parliamentarian Wijitha Herat, said at a press briefing held at JVP headquarters in Battaramulla in Colombo Wednesday to discuss matters about the plight of IDPs in Vavuniyaa camps.

    Wijitha Herat further said at the briefing that the government has been saying that it could not resettle IDPs held in Vavuniyaa camps as their villages in Vanni region are not completely de-mined.

    At that same the government is issuing statements to the effect that it has launched several development projects in Ki’linochchi, Mannaar, Jaffna and Vavuniyaa including restoration of electricity supply under the title “Northern Spring “(Vaddakkin Vasantham).

    “How could the government launch development projects in areas which are still sown with mines. Hence the government’s stand on resettlement is contradictory,” he asked.

    “My party accepts that there are some areas in Vanni infested with mines. But there are vast areas without mines. The government can resettle large numbers IDP families in these mine-free areas. The international community is trying to interfere in the internal affairs of our country under the pretext of safeguarding IDPs in Vavuniyaa. This would be possible once the northeast monsoon commences. Therefore the government should not give room for such interference,” Mr. Wijitha Herat said.

  247. Five Tamil and Muslim party leaders in a joint communique issued Wednesday stated that “the forcible detention of hundreds of thousands of Tamil citizens of Sri Lanka in camps for Internally Displaced Persons is illegal, without basis in the Constitution and in gross violation of international human rights norms,” and called for immediate action to “end to military administration and restrictions placed on civilians, and we urge the restoration of full civilian administration to facilitate return to economic and social normality.”

    Full text of the statement follows:

    Let Our People Free!

    The Tamil speaking peoples of Sri Lanka have suffered great hardships for many decades since Independence. They have faced discrimination and had to suffer ethnic riots, pogroms and ethnic cleansing; in the pogrom in 1983 sections of the state were involved. In the last thirty four years Sri Lanka was consumed by an ethnic civil war in which the Tamil and Muslim people and others in the North and East and elsewhere were victims. The Tamils in particular bore the brunt of the suffering. During the last stages of the war the people of the Vanni suffered traumatic pain which, despite the conclusive end of the war, has still not abated. While we are deeply concerned about the human rights violations everywhere in our island such as death threats, the killing of civilians, and the disappearance of journalists and others, we feel the need to prioritise in this communiqué such collective and unbearable pain of large numbers of our population as compels immediate intervention.

    We the undersigned affirm the following and call for an immediate end to these intolerable conditions, and in particular:
    We state that the forcible detention of hundreds of thousands of Tamil citizens of Sri Lanka in camps for Internally Displaced Persons is illegal, without basis in the Constitution and in gross violation of international human rights norms.
    These people should be released immediately to return to their homes and permitted to resume without hindrance their traditional livelihood activities such as farming and fishing, or to take up residence with friends and relatives, or to exercise their lawful right to abode elsewhere at their discretion. Those likely to face criminal charges should be produced in a court of law without further delay.
    We strongly urge that the camps, for so long as they exist, should be open to relatives, religious functionaries, parliamentarians, provincial councillors, civil society, UN agencies, journalists, and national and international aid and humanitarian organisations.
    We urge that immediate arrangements be made to allow the Muslim people who were evicted from the North and have suffered acute hardships for nearly two decades to return to their homes and to resume their economic and social activities without hindrance.
    Similar arrangements must be made to re-settle in their original homes all those in the East, who remain displaced and continue to suffer greatly.
    The restrictions on movement in and out of the Northern Province and some locations in the East should be lifted and the need for permits to enter or leave should be rescinded forthwith. In particular, any form of quarantine of the Northern Province is a violation of basic rights and should be lifted.
    The curfew and other restrictions on normality in many parts of the Northern Province and elsewhere are unjustified and we demand that normality be returned without delay. People in certain parts of the country live in fear, avoid even essential travel, and are inhibited in employment related and social activities.
    We call for an end to military administration and restrictions placed on civilians, and we urge the restoration of full civilian administration to facilitate return to economic and social normality.
    R. Sampanthan, M.P, Leader, ITAK, Leader, TNA
    Mano Ganesan, M.P., Leader, DPF
    Rauff Hakeem, M.P., Leader, SLMC
    V.Anandasangaree, Leader, TULF
    K. Vigneswaran, Leader, AITUF

  248. Sri Lanka’s failure to rapidly resettle nearly 300,000 Tamils who survived the government’s final onslaught against the Tamil Tigers and their further suffering under harsh conditions in militarised camps could result in growing bitterness, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon warned Prime Minister Ratnasiri Wickramanayake Tuesday – the same day, the UN issued its strongest criticism yet of Sri Lanka’s continued internment of the hundreds of thousands of displacedTamils. Mr. Ban also stressed the need to expedite “a serious, independent and impartial accountability process to look into alleged violation of international law during the conflict as a critical part of moving forward and building peace in Sri Lanka,” a UN statement said.

    In a statement following his meeting with the Sri Lankan Premier, Mr. Ban noted that he had repeatedly brought up the issue of internally displaced persons (IDPs), the political process and reconciliation, and accountability for alleged violations during the long ethnic war in his various telephone conversations with President Mahinda Rajapaksa and messages conveyed through visits by senior UN officials.

    Mr. Ban underlined the importance of winning the trust and confidence of the population in the North, especially those in the IDP camps, as failure to do so could undermine the prospects for reconciliation.

    Prime Minister Wickramanayake assured Mr. Ban that the Government was keen to implement earlier pledges to resettle all IDPs out of the camps by January, but he emphasized that much international aid was needed to facilitate these efforts, especially for de-mining.

    Meanwhile, Mr. Walter Kaelin, a representative of the United Nations secretary-general, said Tuesday that civilians held in tightly-guarded camps should be granted freedom to ensure that Sri Lanka complied with its international obligations.

    “Immediate and substantial progress in restoring freedom of movement for the displaced is an imperative if Sri Lanka is to respect the rights of its citizens and comply with its commitments and obligations under international law,” AFP quoted Mr. Kaelin as saying in a statement.

    Mr. Kaelin, UN representative on the human rights of internally displaced persons, criticised the slow screening of people in the camps for suspected Tamil Tigers and called for unhindered humanitarian access to the camps by international and local aid workers.

    Restoring freedom to the displaced “is becoming a matter of urgency,” he said.

    “I remain particularly concerned about the slow pace of identifying those in the camps who do not pose a threat to security and the lack of transparent criteria in this regard,” he added.

    Restoring freedom to the displaced “is becoming a matter of urgency, and I remain very concerned about the very slow pace of releases”, Mr. Kaelin said, two days after wrapping up a visit to camps in the island’s north.

    Mr. Kaelin said a clash over the weekend between troops and people interred in one of the barbed-wire ringed camps underscored the growing tensions and human rights abuses.

    The incident “underscores how interning people in large and overcrowded camps not built for prolonged stays is in itself a factor detrimental to security,” Mr. Kaelin said.

    “The use of firearms to control a group of internally displaced persons trying to move from one camp zone to another that resulted in injuries to two persons raises serious human rights issues,” he noted.

  249. I would ask that people posting comments stick to the topic discussed in my blog posting, which is the need for an international investigation into the human rights abuses and war crimes committed by both sides during the closing stages of the war. If people want to discuss what actually happened in the war zone (to the extent we can figure it out) and why, I would think that would be appropriate. However, discussions about the IDPs in the internment camps now are not relevant, unless they bear on the original topic. I would also request that people refrain from personal attacks or simply posting links to other articles without any explanation. I hope we can have a serious, reasoned discussion of the relevant issues.

    The question has been raised repeatedly as to “how else could the LTTE have been crushed?” I won’t respond to that question. It assumes that I agree that anyone should be “crushed.” AI campaigns against human rights abuses, whether by governments or by armed opposition groups like the Tigers. We’re opposed to the death penalty. We don’t say that the way to end human rights abuses by any particular group of people is to kill all those people or to dismantle that organization. We don’t take positions on what form of government a country should have, or whether any part of any country should or should not be a separate or autonomous state. AI did say earlier this year that the temporary ceasefire should be extended in Sri Lanka, as we thought the alternative would cause many civilian casualties (and the extent of how many civilians were ultimately killed is the topic I started this discussion with). Those interested are welcome to visit the Sri Lanka page of the AIUSA website and read the reports and press releases we’ve been issuing.

  250. Hi Jim,

    Thanks once again for the initiatives taken to stop flooding of unwarranted articles to a good discussion topic.

    The guess the question in content was regularly raised by me.

    As much as I hate to think of getting rid of any kind of life form, I am one who lost my whole young life to the menace that occurred. I don’t want the same to happen to my kids. Peace talks never worked with the LTTE as they always broke the agreements.

    The war was the best thing that happened to the country for a long time. Unfortunately there definitely would have been a host of HR violations that would have occurred during the period by both parties. But, isn’t that what you mean by war ? War by any means is HR violation isn’t it ? The same that the west is doing to Afghanistan and Iraq ? Which has been happening from the time the Human Race began ?

    What matters is the ultimate goal I guess – If Majority feels that after getting rid of AlQuaida, the world will be a better place what can we do ?? We know that Sri Lanka is peaceful after LTTE… That’s what the Majority believe and Majority is what I believe Democracy is all about !

  251. Dear Jim,

    It'd be good to have a discussion without Eelamists carpet bombing this page with a zillion news stories.

    The question has been raised repeatedly as to “how else could the LTTE have been crushed?” I won’t respond to that question. It assumes that I agree that anyone should be “crushed.”

    AI's refusal or inability to answer the question 'how else could the LTTE have been crushed?' and not even wishing to have the LTTE crushed, annihilated, obliterated and atomised but always pushing for 'ceasefires' could only have produced two logical outcome.

    1. Unending war in SL with at least another 2-3,00 violent deaths per annum and,
    2. An ethnically cleansed North & East fit only for Tamils to inhabit, ruled by a perfectly formed, non-democratic LTTE.

    I'm delighted that this SL govt (regardless of their other faults) placed a higher value on the lives and futures of SL citizens than have HR organisations like AI, by crushing the military power of the LTTE.

    By following your position of 'no-one should be crushed', to its logical conclusion, you must be distraught that in 1979 the truly genocidal Khmer Rouge regime (at the time supported by the US & UK for geopolitical reasons), was 'crushed' by the armed might of the North Vietnamese Army?

    The darkest and bloodiest period in modern Cambodian history was ended by the hard military power of the NVA and not by 'conflict resolution paradigms', 'equality workshops' and NGO activists holding 'sustainable peace-building' seminars.

    If Cambodia had followed HR mantras prescribed to SL on how to deal with the LTTE, there wouldn't have been many Cambodians left alive to attend 'Good Governance' seminars.

    We don’t say that the way to end human rights abuses by any particular group of people is to kill all those people or to dismantle that organization.
    It seems that your theory is, yet again, found wanting. In some instances, the answer (as unpalatable it is to HR organisations) is to kill people and destroy their organization's ability to cause mayhem, murder and destruction.

    Killing the right people improves HR: In Sierra Leone in 2000, the British Army within a few months 'crushed' the arm-chopping rebels and brought peace to that benighted country. i.e. they killed enough 'rebels' to destroy the movement. A peace which the UN forces had been unable to achieve for over a decade, because they weren't allowed to kill the right people. HR abuses in Sierra Leone have declined to virtually nothing from a level of unimaginable barbarity.

    In the Eelam Wars, the continued existence of an intransigent LTTE, unwilling to brook any deviation from its' maximalist position of an ethnically defined separate state, was the greatest causative factor in human rights abuses. How exactly was the LTTE to be humanised or tamed?

    The brutal quelling of the almost exclusively Sinhalese JVP in the 1980s, prevented the emergence of a Pol-Pot style regime in SL. Would you like to speculate on the state of HR rights in SL if the JVP had been allowed to take over the State, through violent means?

    Again, the position taken by AI has the effect of causing maximum death and destruction in SL, by facilitating the continued existence of the LTTE; i.e. by hindering the destruction and crushing of the LTTE.

    We don’t take positions on what form of government a country should have, or whether any part of any country should or should not be a separate or autonomous state. Excellent. So, in this instance, AI cannot have any disagreement with the fact that the mandate given by the people of SL to the legitimately elected SL govt was: 'crush the LTTE'. If as you say, you agree with democracy, well, here's democracy in action. A govt following the will of the majority of the peoples of the island.

    AI did say earlier this year that the temporary ceasefire should be extended in Sri Lanka, as we thought the alternative would cause many civilian casualties (and the extent of how many civilians were ultimately killed is the topic I started this discussion with).

    Based purely on the LTTE's past performance as a guide, how exactly would a temporary ceasefire have helped to anyone other than the LTTE? Snakes bite, Scorpions sting, the LTTE breaks ceasefires. Its an immutable law of nature.

    Ceasefire talks with the LTTE have been proven to be totally worthless for this reason:

    the LTTE always (and I mean always) used ceasefire periods to recruit, train and re-arm to re-start the conflict. Defecting senior LTTE cadres have repeatedly and unequivocally stated that this was VP's standard position; straight from the Tigers' mouth, so to speak.

    By its' very nature, a temporary ceasefire would eventually turn into semi-permanent war.

    If this is what AI wished to happen, you should have to courage of your convictions to say it openly.

    I now see even more clearly why this SL govt decided to politely decline advice from the HR industry, during its successful campaign to crush the military capability and leadership of the LTTE.

  252. Dear Jim,

    It’d be good to have a discussion without Eelamists carpet bombing this page with a zillion news stories.

    The question has been raised repeatedly as to “how else could the LTTE have been crushed?” I won’t respond to that question. It assumes that I agree that anyone should be “crushed.”

    AI’s refusal or inability to answer the question ‘how else could the LTTE have been crushed?’ and not even wishing to have the LTTE crushed, annihilated, obliterated and atomised but always pushing for ‘ceasefires’ could only have produced two logical outcome.

    1. Unending war in SL with at least another 2-3,00 violent deaths per annum and,
    2. An ethnically cleansed North & East fit only for Tamils to inhabit, ruled by a perfectly formed, non-democratic LTTE.

    I’m delighted that this SL govt (regardless of their other faults) placed a higher value on the lives and futures of SL citizens than have HR organisations like AI, by crushing the military power of the LTTE.

    By following your position of ‘no-one should be crushed’, to its logical conclusion, you must be distraught that in 1979 the truly genocidal Khmer Rouge regime (at the time supported by the US & UK for geopolitical reasons), was ‘crushed’ by the armed might of the North Vietnamese Army?

    The darkest and bloodiest period in modern Cambodian history was ended by the hard military power of the NVA and not by ‘conflict resolution paradigms’, ‘equality workshops’ and NGO activists holding ‘sustainable peace-building’ seminars.

    If Cambodia had followed HR mantras prescribed to SL on how to deal with the LTTE, there wouldn’t have been many Cambodians left alive to attend ‘Good Governance’ seminars.

    We don’t say that the way to end human rights abuses by any particular group of people is to kill all those people or to dismantle that organization.
    It seems that your theory is, yet again, found wanting. In some instances, the answer (as unpalatable it is to HR organisations) is to kill people and destroy their organization’s ability to cause mayhem, murder and destruction.

    Killing the right people improves HR: In Sierra Leone in 2000, the British Army within a few months ‘crushed’ the arm-chopping rebels and brought peace to that benighted country. i.e. they killed enough ‘rebels’ to destroy the movement. A peace which the UN forces had been unable to achieve for over a decade, because they weren’t allowed to kill the right people. HR abuses in Sierra Leone have declined to virtually nothing from a level of unimaginable barbarity.

    In the Eelam Wars, the continued existence of an intransigent LTTE, unwilling to brook any deviation from its’ maximalist position of an ethnically defined separate state, was the greatest causative factor in human rights abuses. How exactly was the LTTE to be humanised or tamed?

    The brutal quelling of the almost exclusively Sinhalese JVP in the 1980s, prevented the emergence of a Pol-Pot style regime in SL. Would you like to speculate on the state of HR rights in SL if the JVP had been allowed to take over the State, through violent means?

    Again, the position taken by AI has the effect of causing maximum death and destruction in SL, by facilitating the continued existence of the LTTE; i.e. by hindering the destruction and crushing of the LTTE.

    We don’t take positions on what form of government a country should have, or whether any part of any country should or should not be a separate or autonomous state. Excellent. So, in this instance, AI cannot have any disagreement with the fact that the mandate given by the people of SL to the legitimately elected SL govt was: ‘crush the LTTE’. If as you say, you agree with democracy, well, here’s democracy in action. A govt following the will of the majority of the peoples of the island.

    AI did say earlier this year that the temporary ceasefire should be extended in Sri Lanka, as we thought the alternative would cause many civilian casualties (and the extent of how many civilians were ultimately killed is the topic I started this discussion with).

    Based purely on the LTTE’s past performance as a guide, how exactly would a temporary ceasefire have helped to anyone other than the LTTE? Snakes bite, Scorpions sting, the LTTE breaks ceasefires. Its an immutable law of nature.

    Ceasefire talks with the LTTE have been proven to be totally worthless for this reason:

    the LTTE always (and I mean always) used ceasefire periods to recruit, train and re-arm to re-start the conflict. Defecting senior LTTE cadres have repeatedly and unequivocally stated that this was VP’s standard position; straight from the Tigers’ mouth, so to speak.

    By its’ very nature, a temporary ceasefire would eventually turn into semi-permanent war.

    If this is what AI wished to happen, you should have to courage of your convictions to say it openly.

    I now see even more clearly why this SL govt decided to politely decline advice from the HR industry, during its successful campaign to crush the military capability and leadership of the LTTE.

  253. The question has been raised repeatedly as to “how else could the LTTE have been crushed?”
    But who created ltte? When ltte born? find root cuase and solve the problem?

    Tamil Elam was born in the nineteen fifties, when the Sinhalese majority in newly-independent Sri Lanka set about to build a national identity by appealing to Sinhalese nationalism. By an act of the Sinhalese-dominated parliament, a million Tamils were stripped of citizenship and franchise on the grounds that their parents or grandparents had been born in India. The proportion of Tamil voters in the electorate instantly dropped from 33% to 20%, giving the Sinhalese a lock on the 2/3 parliamentary majority needed to pass any law they wanted. Sinhalese became the official language of Sri Lanka. Tamil civil servants, who had dominated the English colonial administration, were summarily fired. Under the guise of agricultural schemes, the Sinhalese government pushed Tamils off their land, flooding newly-created enlarged tracts of farmland with previously landless Sinhalese. Pogroms and general oppression ensued. In the 1958 riots alone, 25,000 Tamils were forced to flee into the northern part of the island. An effort was even made to deport “stateless” disenfranchised Tamils to India. The Tamil response to this campaign was predictable and obvious.

    At first, they followed the non-violent path of Mohandas Gandhi. Old men sat at the entrances of government offices, chanting hymns and preventing government clerks from entering by blocking the entrances with their bodies. The Sinhalese police beat them aside with clubs. Peaceful protests were dispersed by Sinhalese thugs acting with semi-official sanction. The peaceful way of satyagraha was of no avail. Gandhi’s approach had worked with the British because the refined British public and media would take their government to task over the perceived violations of Indian civil rights. It would not work against the Sinhalese because the Sinhalese public and media eagerly applauded the violation of Tamil civil rights.

    By the nineteen seventies, the Tamil language was banned and Tamil contacts with the Tamil population of India were forcibly cut off. A policy of deliberate discrimination in everything from housing and employment to university scholarships pushed the Tamils to the fringes of society and sat the Sinhalese firmly on top. Sinhalese troops patrolled Tamil villages, assaulting anyone who dared to look at them the wrong way. A deliberate campaign of ethnic cleansing was pushing Tamils deeper and deeper into the north of Ceylon. There was no doubt in the mind of any sane observer that the Sinhalese would not stop until they slowly, by stages, pushed the Tamils into the ocean. In fact, the Sinhalese said as much. Tamils, according to the Sinhalese, were foreigners who belonged in India.

    When Tamil youth demanded action in the face of government oppression, their elders quelled them in the name of “national unity” and “non-violence”. They were told that Hinduism prohibited violence. They were told that parliamentary means could ensure their rights. They were told that this Tamil politician or that Tamil politician or some other Tamil politician would somehow magically make an agreement with the Sinhalese in exchange for his vote in one coalition or another.

    The agreements were duly made. And duly broken. The oppression continued. In the end, the youth did the only rational thing they could have done. They rejected their elders. They rejected the Sinhalese State. They rejected non-violence. They demanded a country of their own. At gunpoint.

    It was the seventies. The West seemed on the run, the Soviets were winning the Cold War and Marxist rebels were popping up the world over. For a young man rebelling against the established order and the religion of his elders, Marxism was the logical way to go. Therefore it is not surprising, though unfortunate for the Tamil people on Ceylon, that those who sought to liberate them from Sinhalese rule were mostly Marxists. In May 1976, a glorified street gang of brutal thugs who overlaid savagery with Marxist rhetoric adopted the grandiose name “Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam”. Their leader, a twenty-one-year-old high school dropout named Vellupilai Prabhakaran, had already set the tone in July of the previous year by shooting the mayor of Jaffna as the latter arrived to pray at a Hindu temple.

    Things spiraled on from there and, as generally happens in conflicts of this type, all pretense of civilization was rapidly thrown aside. The point of no return came in July of 1983, when, allegedly in response to an LTTE ambush that killed 15 Sri Lankan soldiers, Sinhalese civilians rioted across the island, murdering some 3,000 Tamils. The rioters had official government voter lists showing the names and addresses of Tamils. The Sinhalese army and police stood by and did nothing for days as entire neighborhoods were burned to the ground. As Tamil motorists were pulled out of their cars and burned alive at improvised checkpoints, whole families were hacked to pieces in their living rooms and Tamil temples were put to the torch by Sinhalese mobs led by plainclothes police, spontaneity , unlike brutality, was not in evidence. The event would forever be remembered by the Tamils as Black July.

    In response to this final atrocity, hundreds of thousands of Tamils fled abroad, while those remaining on Ceylon made their way to the North and East of the island, where the heretofore small-time pro-independence insurgency suddenly had no shortage of recruits. Asia’s longest running civil war was on in earnest, no holds barred.

  254. The question has been raised repeatedly as to “how else could the LTTE have been crushed?”
    But who created ltte? When ltte born? find root cuase and solve the problem?

    Tamil Elam was born in the nineteen fifties, when the Sinhalese majority in newly-independent Sri Lanka set about to build a national identity by appealing to Sinhalese nationalism. By an act of the Sinhalese-dominated parliament, a million Tamils were stripped of citizenship and franchise on the grounds that their parents or grandparents had been born in India. The proportion of Tamil voters in the electorate instantly dropped from 33% to 20%, giving the Sinhalese a lock on the 2/3 parliamentary majority needed to pass any law they wanted. Sinhalese became the official language of Sri Lanka. Tamil civil servants, who had dominated the English colonial administration, were summarily fired. Under the guise of agricultural schemes, the Sinhalese government pushed Tamils off their land, flooding newly-created enlarged tracts of farmland with previously landless Sinhalese. Pogroms and general oppression ensued. In the 1958 riots alone, 25,000 Tamils were forced to flee into the northern part of the island. An effort was even made to deport “stateless” disenfranchised Tamils to India. The Tamil response to this campaign was predictable and obvious.

    At first, they followed the non-violent path of Mohandas Gandhi. Old men sat at the entrances of government offices, chanting hymns and preventing government clerks from entering by blocking the entrances with their bodies. The Sinhalese police beat them aside with clubs. Peaceful protests were dispersed by Sinhalese thugs acting with semi-official sanction. The peaceful way of satyagraha was of no avail. Gandhi’s approach had worked with the British because the refined British public and media would take their government to task over the perceived violations of Indian civil rights. It would not work against the Sinhalese because the Sinhalese public and media eagerly applauded the violation of Tamil civil rights.

    By the nineteen seventies, the Tamil language was banned and Tamil contacts with the Tamil population of India were forcibly cut off. A policy of deliberate discrimination in everything from housing and employment to university scholarships pushed the Tamils to the fringes of society and sat the Sinhalese firmly on top. Sinhalese troops patrolled Tamil villages, assaulting anyone who dared to look at them the wrong way. A deliberate campaign of ethnic cleansing was pushing Tamils deeper and deeper into the north of Ceylon. There was no doubt in the mind of any sane observer that the Sinhalese would not stop until they slowly, by stages, pushed the Tamils into the ocean. In fact, the Sinhalese said as much. Tamils, according to the Sinhalese, were foreigners who belonged in India.

    When Tamil youth demanded action in the face of government oppression, their elders quelled them in the name of “national unity” and “non-violence”. They were told that Hinduism prohibited violence. They were told that parliamentary means could ensure their rights. They were told that this Tamil politician or that Tamil politician or some other Tamil politician would somehow magically make an agreement with the Sinhalese in exchange for his vote in one coalition or another.

    The agreements were duly made. And duly broken. The oppression continued. In the end, the youth did the only rational thing they could have done. They rejected their elders. They rejected the Sinhalese State. They rejected non-violence. They demanded a country of their own. At gunpoint.

    It was the seventies. The West seemed on the run, the Soviets were winning the Cold War and Marxist rebels were popping up the world over. For a young man rebelling against the established order and the religion of his elders, Marxism was the logical way to go. Therefore it is not surprising, though unfortunate for the Tamil people on Ceylon, that those who sought to liberate them from Sinhalese rule were mostly Marxists. In May 1976, a glorified street gang of brutal thugs who overlaid savagery with Marxist rhetoric adopted the grandiose name “Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam”. Their leader, a twenty-one-year-old high school dropout named Vellupilai Prabhakaran, had already set the tone in July of the previous year by shooting the mayor of Jaffna as the latter arrived to pray at a Hindu temple.

    Things spiraled on from there and, as generally happens in conflicts of this type, all pretense of civilization was rapidly thrown aside. The point of no return came in July of 1983, when, allegedly in response to an LTTE ambush that killed 15 Sri Lankan soldiers, Sinhalese civilians rioted across the island, murdering some 3,000 Tamils. The rioters had official government voter lists showing the names and addresses of Tamils. The Sinhalese army and police stood by and did nothing for days as entire neighborhoods were burned to the ground. As Tamil motorists were pulled out of their cars and burned alive at improvised checkpoints, whole families were hacked to pieces in their living rooms and Tamil temples were put to the torch by Sinhalese mobs led by plainclothes police, spontaneity , unlike brutality, was not in evidence. The event would forever be remembered by the Tamils as Black July.

    In response to this final atrocity, hundreds of thousands of Tamils fled abroad, while those remaining on Ceylon made their way to the North and East of the island, where the heretofore small-time pro-independence insurgency suddenly had no shortage of recruits. Asia’s longest running civil war was on in earnest, no holds barred.

  255. In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Oct. 1, 11:40 P.M., I would make two points:
    1. Amnesty did not support nor oppose the war in Sri Lanka; rather, we asked that both sides abide by the laws of war when conducting the war. Neither side did. We think an international investigation is needed.
    2. Human rights shouldn't subject to a majority decision in a country; if a majority of people in Sri Lanka voted in favor of torture, we would still oppose the use of torture.

  256. In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Oct. 1, 11:40 P.M., I would make two points:
    1. Amnesty did not support nor oppose the war in Sri Lanka; rather, we asked that both sides abide by the laws of war when conducting the war. Neither side did. We think an international investigation is needed.
    2. Human rights shouldn’t subject to a majority decision in a country; if a majority of people in Sri Lanka voted in favor of torture, we would still oppose the use of torture.

  257. From Mango, as my previous attempt to post this was being blocked/held for moderation or whatever….

    Dear Jim,

    It'd be good to have a discussion without Eelamists carpet bombing this page with a zillion news stories.

    The question has been raised repeatedly as to “how else could the LTTE have been crushed?” I won’t respond to that question. It assumes that I agree that anyone should be “crushed.”

    AI's refusal or inability to answer the question 'how else could the LTTE have been crushed?' and not even wishing to have the LTTE crushed, annihilated, obliterated and atomised but always pushing for 'ceasefires' could only have produced two logical outcome.

    1. Unending war in SL with at least another 2-3,00 violent deaths per annum and,
    2. An ethnically cleansed North & East fit only for Tamils to inhabit, ruled by a perfectly formed, non-democratic LTTE.

    I'm delighted that this SL govt (regardless of their other faults) placed a higher value on the lives and futures of SL citizens than have HR organisations like AI and others, by crushing the military power of the LTTE.

    By following your position of 'no-one should be crushed', to its logical conclusion, you must be distraught that in 1979 the truly genocidal Khmer Rouge regime (at the time supported by the US & UK for geopolitical reasons), was 'crushed' by the armed might of the North Vietnamese Army? The darkest and bloodiest period in modern Cambodian history was ended by the hard military power of the NVA and not by 'conflict resolution paradigms', 'equality workshops' and NGO activists holding 'sustainable peace-building' seminars.

    If Cambodia had followed HR mantras prescribed to SL on how to deal with the LTTE, there wouldn't have been many Cambodians left alive to attend 'Good Governance" seminars.

    We don’t say that the way to end human rights abuses by any particular group of people is to kill all those people or to dismantle that organization. It seems that your theory is, yet again, found wanting. In some instances, the answer (as unpalatable it is to HR organisations) is to kill people to destroy their organization's ability to cause mayhem, murder and destruction.

    Killing the right people improves HR: In Sierra Leone in 2000, the British Army within a few months 'crushed' the arm-chopping rebels and brought peace to that benighted country. i.e. they killed enough 'rebels' to destroy the movement. A peace which the UN forces had been unable to achieve for over a decade, because they weren't allowed to kill the right people. HR abuses in Sierra Leone have declined to virtually nothing from a level of unimaginable barbarity.

    In the Eelam Wars, the continued existence of an intransigent LTTE, unwilling to brook any deviation from its' maximalist position of an ethnically defined separate state, was the greatest causative factor in human rights abuses. How exactly was the LTTE to be humanised or tamed?

    The brutal quelling of the almost exclusively Sinhalese JVP in the 1980s, prevented the emergence of a Pol-Pot style regime in SL. Would you like to speculate on the state of HR rights in SL if the JVP had been allowed to take over the State, through violent means?

    Again, the position taken by AI has the effect of causing maximum death and destruction in SL, by facilitating the continued existence of the LTTE; i.e. by hindering the destruction and crushing of the LTTE.

    We don’t take positions on what form of government a country should have, or whether any part of any country should or should not be a separate or autonomous state. Excellent. So, in this instance, AI cannot have any disagreement with the fact that the mandate given by the people of SL to the legitimately elected SL govt was: 'crush the LTTE'. If as you say, you agree with democracy, well, here's democracy in action. A govt following the will of the majority of the peoples of the island.

    AI did say earlier this year that the temporary ceasefire should be extended in Sri Lanka, as we thought the alternative would cause many civilian casualties (and the extent of how many civilians were ultimately killed is the topic I started this discussion with).

    Based purely on the LTTE's past performance as a guide, how exactly would a temporary ceasefire have helped to anyone other than the LTTE? Snakes bite, Scorpions sting, the LTTE breaks ceasefires. Its an immutable law of nature.

    Ceasefire talks with the LTTE have been proven to be totally worthless for this reason: the LTTE always (and I mean always) used ceasefire periods to recruit, train and re-arm to re-start the conflict. Defecting senior LTTE cadres have repeatedly and unequivocally stated that this was VP's standard position; straight from the Tigers' mouth, so to speak.

    By its' very nature, a temporary ceasefire would eventually turn into semi-permanent war.

    If this is what AI wished to happen, you should have to courage of your convictions to say it openly.

    I now see even more clearly why this SL govt decided to politely decline advice from the HR industry, during its successful campaign to crush the military capability and leadership of the LTTE.

  258. Sri Lanka should make public a list of all IDPs

    With the end of the government’s military campaign, Crisis Group urges that:
    The Sri Lankan government should make public a list all those being held in camps for the displaced and in places of detentions, to reassure worried families about the fate of their loved ones, to facilitate the reunification of divided families, and to protect against the threat of abduction and forced disappearance.
    The ICRC and UNHCR must be given full and immediate access to every stage of the government’s “screening” for those suspected of involvement with the LTTE. The ICRC should be granted full access to all places of detention to ensure that surrendered and captured combatants and other terrorist suspects are treated in accordance with the Geneva Conventions and Sri Lankan law. The Sri Lankan government should make public its plans for the demobilisation and rehabilitation of former LTTE fighters.
    The Sri Lankan government should remove all restrictions on the access and effective work of the ICRC, UN agencies and humanitarian NGOs in government camps for the displaced in Vavuniya, Mannar and Jaffna and in government hospitals and medical centres. Punitive restrictions on visas and on travel within Sri Lanka for international staff of humanitarian agencies must also be removed. Lack of access and the consequent reduction in services only compounds the already severe physical suffering and psychological hardships the displaced are enduring.
    The Sri Lankan government should announce a clear and prompt timetable for the resettlement of all those recently displaced from the Vanni. The government should also establish an open and inclusive process of consultation with independent Tamil and Muslim leaders to devise a fair and sustainable plan for the resettlement of all those displaced from the Northern Province, including the nearly 100,000 Muslims forcibly evicted from Jaffna and Mannar in 1990.
    The Sri Lankan government should make tangible and meaningful steps to assure Tamils, Muslims and other minorities that their rights will be respected and their equal citizenship and physical safety will be assured. The government should initiate a new and inclusive process of dialogue between legitimate and independent representatives of all ethnic communities in pursuit of a lasting political settlement that addresses the grievances and insecurities of all communities through constitutional guarantees of power-sharing and individual rights.
    http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=6070

  259. Sri Lanka should make public a list of all IDPs

    With the end of the government’s military campaign, Crisis Group urges that:
    The Sri Lankan government should make public a list all those being held in camps for the displaced and in places of detentions, to reassure worried families about the fate of their loved ones, to facilitate the reunification of divided families, and to protect against the threat of abduction and forced disappearance.
    The ICRC and UNHCR must be given full and immediate access to every stage of the government’s “screening” for those suspected of involvement with the LTTE. The ICRC should be granted full access to all places of detention to ensure that surrendered and captured combatants and other terrorist suspects are treated in accordance with the Geneva Conventions and Sri Lankan law. The Sri Lankan government should make public its plans for the demobilisation and rehabilitation of former LTTE fighters.
    The Sri Lankan government should remove all restrictions on the access and effective work of the ICRC, UN agencies and humanitarian NGOs in government camps for the displaced in Vavuniya, Mannar and Jaffna and in government hospitals and medical centres. Punitive restrictions on visas and on travel within Sri Lanka for international staff of humanitarian agencies must also be removed. Lack of access and the consequent reduction in services only compounds the already severe physical suffering and psychological hardships the displaced are enduring.
    The Sri Lankan government should announce a clear and prompt timetable for the resettlement of all those recently displaced from the Vanni. The government should also establish an open and inclusive process of consultation with independent Tamil and Muslim leaders to devise a fair and sustainable plan for the resettlement of all those displaced from the Northern Province, including the nearly 100,000 Muslims forcibly evicted from Jaffna and Mannar in 1990.
    The Sri Lankan government should make tangible and meaningful steps to assure Tamils, Muslims and other minorities that their rights will be respected and their equal citizenship and physical safety will be assured. The government should initiate a new and inclusive process of dialogue between legitimate and independent representatives of all ethnic communities in pursuit of a lasting political settlement that addresses the grievances and insecurities of all communities through constitutional guarantees of power-sharing and individual rights.
    http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=6070

  260. Sri Lanka should make public a list of all IDPs

    With the end of the government’s military campaign, Crisis Group urges that:
    The Sri Lankan government should make public a list all those being held in camps for the displaced and in places of detentions, to reassure worried families about the fate of their loved ones, to facilitate the reunification of divided families, and to protect against the threat of abduction and forced disappearance.
    The ICRC and UNHCR must be given full and immediate access to every stage of the government’s “screening” for those suspected of involvement with the LTTE. The ICRC should be granted full access to all places of detention to ensure that surrendered and captured combatants and other terrorist suspects are treated in accordance with the Geneva Conventions and Sri Lankan law. The Sri Lankan government should make public its plans for the demobilisation and rehabilitation of former LTTE fighters.
    The Sri Lankan government should remove all restrictions on the access and effective work of the ICRC, UN agencies and humanitarian NGOs in government camps for the displaced in Vavuniya, Mannar and Jaffna and in government hospitals and medical centres. Punitive restrictions on visas and on travel within Sri Lanka for international staff of humanitarian agencies must also be removed. Lack of access and the consequent reduction in services only compounds the already severe physical suffering and psychological hardships the displaced are enduring.
    The Sri Lankan government should announce a clear and prompt timetable for the resettlement of all those recently displaced from the Vanni. The government should also establish an open and inclusive process of consultation with independent Tamil and Muslim leaders to devise a fair and sustainable plan for the resettlement of all those displaced from the Northern Province, including the nearly 100,000 Muslims forcibly evicted from Jaffna and Mannar in 1990.
    The Sri Lankan government should make tangible and meaningful steps to assure Tamils, Muslims and other minorities that their rights will be respected and their equal citizenship and physical safety will be assured. The government should initiate a new and inclusive process of dialogue between legitimate and independent representatives of all ethnic communities in pursuit of a lasting political settlement that addresses the grievances and insecurities of all communities through constitutional guarantees of power-sharing and individual rights.
    http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=6070

  261. More pontification from the ICG, who in June 2009 said that "… giving immediate attention to Muslim refugees who were chased out of Jaffna in 1990 October is not appropriate."

    So for the ICG, there are 'Good IDPs' (Tamil civilians from the Vanni) and 'Bad IDPs' (Muslim civilians chased out of Jaffna by the LTTE.

    Isn't HR a wonderful thing?

  262. Dear friend, in my opinion, Sinhalese” liberators” have now become the occupiers of the Tamil homelands.

    The Sinhalese are using excuses to keep the 300,000 innocent civilians detained, I fear indefinitely, they are colonizing Tamil Homelands and selling them off to the investors-vultures.

    Recently the government had a huge media blitz with the announcement to the world media on the release of 6.000 of IDPs from the concentration camps.

    Mavai Senathiraja, a parliamentarian from the Tamil National Alliance (TNA), however reported that in fact only 580 of these people were released, but were immediately
    re-arrested and sent to another concentration camp.

    Media Minister Lakshman Yapa Abeywardena said it was not possible due to the extent to which they checked and rechecked for the umpteenth time while the IDPs were languishing concentration camps.

    This contradicts the word of the SLA in the city who confirmed the need for the new security checks begin all over again and this was delaying their release.

    In my mind this is another excuse, as is the statement that they cannot be released before their houses are repaired.

    To shuffle the IDPs like a herd cattle from Vavuniyaa concentration camp to another is inhuman!!

    Unfortunately this will become a norm – rampant colonization,
    resettlement-but not to their native villages, ridiculous “security clearances” and the enslavement of the Tamils

  263. From Mango, as my previous attempt to post this was being blocked/held for moderation or whatever….

    Dear Jim,

    It’d be good to have a discussion without Eelamists carpet bombing this page with a zillion news stories.

    The question has been raised repeatedly as to “how else could the LTTE have been crushed?” I won’t respond to that question. It assumes that I agree that anyone should be “crushed.”

    AI’s refusal or inability to answer the question ‘how else could the LTTE have been crushed?’ and not even wishing to have the LTTE crushed, annihilated, obliterated and atomised but always pushing for ‘ceasefires’ could only have produced two logical outcome.

    1. Unending war in SL with at least another 2-3,00 violent deaths per annum and,
    2. An ethnically cleansed North & East fit only for Tamils to inhabit, ruled by a perfectly formed, non-democratic LTTE.

    I’m delighted that this SL govt (regardless of their other faults) placed a higher value on the lives and futures of SL citizens than have HR organisations like AI and others, by crushing the military power of the LTTE.

    By following your position of ‘no-one should be crushed’, to its logical conclusion, you must be distraught that in 1979 the truly genocidal Khmer Rouge regime (at the time supported by the US & UK for geopolitical reasons), was ‘crushed’ by the armed might of the North Vietnamese Army? The darkest and bloodiest period in modern Cambodian history was ended by the hard military power of the NVA and not by ‘conflict resolution paradigms’, ‘equality workshops’ and NGO activists holding ‘sustainable peace-building’ seminars.

    If Cambodia had followed HR mantras prescribed to SL on how to deal with the LTTE, there wouldn’t have been many Cambodians left alive to attend ‘Good Governance” seminars.

    We don’t say that the way to end human rights abuses by any particular group of people is to kill all those people or to dismantle that organization. It seems that your theory is, yet again, found wanting. In some instances, the answer (as unpalatable it is to HR organisations) is to kill people to destroy their organization’s ability to cause mayhem, murder and destruction.

    Killing the right people improves HR: In Sierra Leone in 2000, the British Army within a few months ‘crushed’ the arm-chopping rebels and brought peace to that benighted country. i.e. they killed enough ‘rebels’ to destroy the movement. A peace which the UN forces had been unable to achieve for over a decade, because they weren’t allowed to kill the right people. HR abuses in Sierra Leone have declined to virtually nothing from a level of unimaginable barbarity.

    In the Eelam Wars, the continued existence of an intransigent LTTE, unwilling to brook any deviation from its’ maximalist position of an ethnically defined separate state, was the greatest causative factor in human rights abuses. How exactly was the LTTE to be humanised or tamed?

    The brutal quelling of the almost exclusively Sinhalese JVP in the 1980s, prevented the emergence of a Pol-Pot style regime in SL. Would you like to speculate on the state of HR rights in SL if the JVP had been allowed to take over the State, through violent means?

    Again, the position taken by AI has the effect of causing maximum death and destruction in SL, by facilitating the continued existence of the LTTE; i.e. by hindering the destruction and crushing of the LTTE.

    We don’t take positions on what form of government a country should have, or whether any part of any country should or should not be a separate or autonomous state. Excellent. So, in this instance, AI cannot have any disagreement with the fact that the mandate given by the people of SL to the legitimately elected SL govt was: ‘crush the LTTE’. If as you say, you agree with democracy, well, here’s democracy in action. A govt following the will of the majority of the peoples of the island.

    AI did say earlier this year that the temporary ceasefire should be extended in Sri Lanka, as we thought the alternative would cause many civilian casualties (and the extent of how many civilians were ultimately killed is the topic I started this discussion with).

    Based purely on the LTTE’s past performance as a guide, how exactly would a temporary ceasefire have helped to anyone other than the LTTE? Snakes bite, Scorpions sting, the LTTE breaks ceasefires. Its an immutable law of nature.

    Ceasefire talks with the LTTE have been proven to be totally worthless for this reason: the LTTE always (and I mean always) used ceasefire periods to recruit, train and re-arm to re-start the conflict. Defecting senior LTTE cadres have repeatedly and unequivocally stated that this was VP’s standard position; straight from the Tigers’ mouth, so to speak.

    By its’ very nature, a temporary ceasefire would eventually turn into semi-permanent war.

    If this is what AI wished to happen, you should have to courage of your convictions to say it openly.

    I now see even more clearly why this SL govt decided to politely decline advice from the HR industry, during its successful campaign to crush the military capability and leadership of the LTTE.

  264. Sri Lanka should make public a list of all IDPs

    With the end of the government’s military campaign, Crisis Group urges that:
    The Sri Lankan government should make public a list all those being held in camps for the displaced and in places of detentions, to reassure worried families about the fate of their loved ones, to facilitate the reunification of divided families, and to protect against the threat of abduction and forced disappearance.
    The ICRC and UNHCR must be given full and immediate access to every stage of the government’s “screening” for those suspected of involvement with the LTTE. The ICRC should be granted full access to all places of detention to ensure that surrendered and captured combatants and other terrorist suspects are treated in accordance with the Geneva Conventions and Sri Lankan law. The Sri Lankan government should make public its plans for the demobilisation and rehabilitation of former LTTE fighters.
    The Sri Lankan government should remove all restrictions on the access and effective work of the ICRC, UN agencies and humanitarian NGOs in government camps for the displaced in Vavuniya, Mannar and Jaffna and in government hospitals and medical centres. Punitive restrictions on visas and on travel within Sri Lanka for international staff of humanitarian agencies must also be removed. Lack of access and the consequent reduction in services only compounds the already severe physical suffering and psychological hardships the displaced are enduring.
    The Sri Lankan government should announce a clear and prompt timetable for the resettlement of all those recently displaced from the Vanni. The government should also establish an open and inclusive process of consultation with independent Tamil and Muslim leaders to devise a fair and sustainable plan for the resettlement of all those displaced from the Northern Province, including the nearly 100,000 Muslims forcibly evicted from Jaffna and Mannar in 1990.
    The Sri Lankan government should make tangible and meaningful steps to assure Tamils, Muslims and other minorities that their rights will be respected and their equal citizenship and physical safety will be assured. The government should initiate a new and inclusive process of dialogue between legitimate and independent representatives of all ethnic communities in pursuit of a lasting political settlement that addresses the grievances and insecurities of all communities through constitutional guarantees of power-sharing and individual rights.

    http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=6070&l=1

  265. Ram, interesting use of words, that betray an Eelamish mindset. Could you please define where these 'Tamil Homelands' are?

    If you define the North & East as 'Tamil Homelands' on the grounds of Tamil majority in those areas, is Wellawatte to be made into a 'Tamil Homeland' because it is a Tamil majority area of Colombo?

    Have Tamils 'colonized' areas of Colombo and created parts with a majority Tamil population ?

    Do you welcome the return of the Sinhalese and Muslims IDPs expelled by the LTTE from Jaffna and the East, back to their original homes and lands?

    If not, why not?

  266. More pontification from the ICG, who in June 2009 said that “… giving immediate attention to Muslim refugees who were chased out of Jaffna in 1990 October is not appropriate.”

    So for the ICG, there are ‘Good IDPs’ (Tamil civilians from the Vanni) and ‘Bad IDPs’ (Muslim civilians chased out of Jaffna by the LTTE.

    Isn’t HR a wonderful thing?

  267. Dear friend, in my opinion, Sinhalese” liberators” have now become the occupiers of the Tamil homelands.

    The Sinhalese are using excuses to keep the 300,000 innocent civilians detained, I fear indefinitely, they are colonizing Tamil Homelands and selling them off to the investors-vultures.

    Recently the government had a huge media blitz with the announcement to the world media on the release of 6.000 of IDPs from the concentration camps.

    Mavai Senathiraja, a parliamentarian from the Tamil National Alliance (TNA), however reported that in fact only 580 of these people were released, but were immediately
    re-arrested and sent to another concentration camp.

    Media Minister Lakshman Yapa Abeywardena said it was not possible due to the extent to which they checked and rechecked for the umpteenth time while the IDPs were languishing concentration camps.

    This contradicts the word of the SLA in the city who confirmed the need for the new security checks begin all over again and this was delaying their release.

    In my mind this is another excuse, as is the statement that they cannot be released before their houses are repaired.

    To shuffle the IDPs like a herd cattle from Vavuniyaa concentration camp to another is inhuman!!

    Unfortunately this will become a norm – rampant colonization,
    resettlement-but not to their native villages, ridiculous “security clearances” and the enslavement of the Tamils

  268. In response to Mango's comment of Oct. 5, 1:13 P.M., I'd make the following points:
    1. The argument in the comment rests on the assumption that if the government's course of action in conducting the war as it did had not been followed, there were only two other possible outcomes: an LTTE victory or unending war.
    2. Personally, I don't accept that assumption.
    3. AI was calling on the government to observe the laws of war as it fought the LTTE. We insisted that the government's argument, that the laws of war could be ignored in the interests of obtaining victory, could not be accepted. International law requires that the government find another way of fighting, one that did not involve violations of international humanitarian law, including war crimes.
    4. I don't believe the future is as pre-determined as the argument in Mango's comment suggests it is. The government didn't try any other way than its military strategy which disregarded the risks to civilians caught in the war zone.
    5. If the assumption in the argument is not accepted, the rest of the argument does not hold.

  269. I probably will not try to write in reply to many of what's being mentioned here as Mango is doing a great job without getting direct answers to his posts.

    Instead I will Stick to the Subject… as I still see a lot of cutting and pasting happening… and answer the questions raised at me…

    In an announcement made Today the HR minister has mentioned that 26,200 IDP's have been resettled in cleared areas and another 5,000 is to be settled within the next two weeks. The aim of the government is to finish the re-settlements before the end of the year.

    In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Oct. 1, 11:40 P.M., I would make two points:
    1. Amnesty did not support nor oppose the war in Sri Lanka; rather, we asked that both sides abide by the laws of war when conducting the war. Neither side did. We think an international investigation is needed.
    2. Human rights shouldn’t subject to a majority decision in a country; if a majority of people in Sri Lanka voted in favor of torture, we would still oppose the use of torture.

    Gentle Jim Mc D !

    1. As a word-wide recognized body AI do ask all sides to abide by rules of World HR and also act as a body that continuously remind the world of the HR codes and norms that have been accepted world wide. I am sure that you do keep reminding of the same to the US government and their allies as UK, France etc… Why I am saddened is that no body seems to be listening to you… We know how American soldiers went raping Muslim women in Iraq and how they teased innocent children in Iraq by showing water bottles and getting them to run behind armed tanks etc.. And we also know now how the Prisoners in Guantanamo Bay camp are treated.

    Why do people tend to ignore AI ??

    Also is there are first come first serve basis for these investigations ?? I mean, Iraq war came before the Eelam war – so shouldn't Government of USA be interrogated before the SL government ? – Just asking a logical question, because I do not hear about US HR violations much – may be because I am in the eastern part of the world – so pardon me if I am wrong…

    2. You mean to say that Democracy is useless ?? If the majority decide that getting rid of the LTTE is the best way forward, and achieve it ?? Kicking democracy out ? You may say that the way we did it was wrong – but then again, we are asking you to let us know what would have been the best way to do it ?? The question everyone seem to conveniently bypass ….

  270. Ram, interesting use of words, that betray an Eelamish mindset. Could you please define where these ‘Tamil Homelands’ are?

    If you define the North & East as ‘Tamil Homelands’ on the grounds of Tamil majority in those areas, is Wellawatte to be made into a ‘Tamil Homeland’ because it is a Tamil majority area of Colombo?

    Have Tamils ‘colonized’ areas of Colombo and created parts with a majority Tamil population ?

    Do you welcome the return of the Sinhalese and Muslims IDPs expelled by the LTTE from Jaffna and the East, back to their original homes and lands?

    If not, why not?

  271. In response to Mango’s comment of Oct. 5, 1:13 P.M., I’d make the following points:
    1. The argument in the comment rests on the assumption that if the government’s course of action in conducting the war as it did had not been followed, there were only two other possible outcomes: an LTTE victory or unending war.
    2. Personally, I don’t accept that assumption.
    3. AI was calling on the government to observe the laws of war as it fought the LTTE. We insisted that the government’s argument, that the laws of war could be ignored in the interests of obtaining victory, could not be accepted. International law requires that the government find another way of fighting, one that did not involve violations of international humanitarian law, including war crimes.
    4. I don’t believe the future is as pre-determined as the argument in Mango’s comment suggests it is. The government didn’t try any other way than its military strategy which disregarded the risks to civilians caught in the war zone.
    5. If the assumption in the argument is not accepted, the rest of the argument does not hold.

  272. I probably will not try to write in reply to many of what’s being mentioned here as Mango is doing a great job without getting direct answers to his posts.

    Instead I will Stick to the Subject… as I still see a lot of cutting and pasting happening… and answer the questions raised at me…

    In an announcement made Today the HR minister has mentioned that 26,200 IDP’s have been resettled in cleared areas and another 5,000 is to be settled within the next two weeks. The aim of the government is to finish the re-settlements before the end of the year.

    In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Oct. 1, 11:40 P.M., I would make two points:
    1. Amnesty did not support nor oppose the war in Sri Lanka; rather, we asked that both sides abide by the laws of war when conducting the war. Neither side did. We think an international investigation is needed.
    2. Human rights shouldn’t subject to a majority decision in a country; if a majority of people in Sri Lanka voted in favor of torture, we would still oppose the use of torture.

    Gentle Jim Mc D !

    1. As a word-wide recognized body AI do ask all sides to abide by rules of World HR and also act as a body that continuously remind the world of the HR codes and norms that have been accepted world wide. I am sure that you do keep reminding of the same to the US government and their allies as UK, France etc… Why I am saddened is that no body seems to be listening to you… We know how American soldiers went raping Muslim women in Iraq and how they teased innocent children in Iraq by showing water bottles and getting them to run behind armed tanks etc.. And we also know now how the Prisoners in Guantanamo Bay camp are treated.

    Why do people tend to ignore AI ??

    Also is there are first come first serve basis for these investigations ?? I mean, Iraq war came before the Eelam war – so shouldn’t Government of USA be interrogated before the SL government ? – Just asking a logical question, because I do not hear about US HR violations much – may be because I am in the eastern part of the world – so pardon me if I am wrong…

    2. You mean to say that Democracy is useless ?? If the majority decide that getting rid of the LTTE is the best way forward, and achieve it ?? Kicking democracy out ? You may say that the way we did it was wrong – but then again, we are asking you to let us know what would have been the best way to do it ?? The question everyone seem to conveniently bypass ….

  273. In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Oct. 5, 11:40 P.M., I'd make two points:
    1. I'd suggest that those interested in seeing what Amnesty International has said about human rights violations committed by governments other than the Sri Lankan government should review the appropriate country pages on the AIUSA website.
    2. I don't know how to make myself clearer on the subject of "democracy" as the comment refers to it. As I said earlier, to take one example, if a majority of people in Sri Lanka voted to have the police torture all suspects, that would not mean that the suspects lost their right to be free from torture. People have certain rights inherent in their dignity as people, not because a majority in their country voted to allow them those rights. AI had called on the Sri Lankan government to observe the laws of war and international human rights in the government's conduct of the war against the LTTE. AI did not prescribe military or political strategies to the government in the conduct of the war, with the exception that we did call for a temporary ceasefire during the last months of the war when it appeared that continuing hostilities would necessarily cause many civilian casualties.

  274. The Sri Lankan government should publish the details of the Internally Displaced Persons (IDP) immediately, says the Civil Monitoring Commission (CMC).
    CMC convener and parliamentarian Mano Ganesan said the government should reveal the information of the IDPs including names, permanent addresses, National Identification Card (NIC) numbers and other personal details of the IDPs .
    The press release issued by the CMC on Sunday said that it want the government publish the ‘details of the 150000 IDPs it claims to have registered and the details of the 110 000 IDP’s whom it claims to have issued identity cards (ID) at the camps’.

    CMC said it is prepared to work with the government to launch a website to publish the details for the benefit of Tamils and the international community.

    “The government should know that providing IDP details to the family members in Sri Lanka and abroad is vital than providing it to the international community” CMC pointed out.

    Meanwhile, Tamil and Muslim leaders in Sri Lanka have joined together to call the IDP camps in northern Sri Lanka illegal.
    In an unprecedented statement, leaders from five political parties representing the two main minority communities urged the government that the IDPs "should be released immediately to return to their homes".
    Tamil leaders R. Sampanthan MP, V. Anandasangaree, Mano Ganesan MP and K. Vigneswaran and Muslim leader Rauff Hakim MP are signatories to the statement released to media on Thursday.

  275. 2000 IDPs in Menik Farm camp identified with special needs

    Around two thousand Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) detained in Zone 3 camp in Menik Farm alone in Vavuniyaa have been identified with special needs. Among them are children, women and others who have lost limbs, eye sight, and hearing in the war. Some children born with deformity have also been identified in Zone 3 camp, civil authorities in Vavuniyaa said.
    The report complied by the civil authority has been forwarded to the Social Service Department for further action.

    Monsoons threaten to aggravate the problems of the tens of thousands of civil war displaced people living in cramped camps in Sri Lanka, agencies say. But the Sri Lankan government, which has kept civilians in the camps since May when its military claimed victory over the Tamil Tiger rebels, says it is taking measures to ensure their welfare, the BBC reported. Only about 10 percent of refugees have been resettled. U.N. agencies warn the camps in the northern part of the island nation will flood with the onset of the monsoon season and leave the inmates, already living in deplorable conditions, with no clean water. The report said camp residents experienced a similar situation in August when sudden storms flooded the facilities, submerging toilets and contaminating water.

    Addressing the final day of the 2009 Labour party conference, former Labour whip Siobhain McDonagh MP draws attention to Channel 4 News coverage of events in Sri Lanka. Ms McDonagh told the conference – "Next time you want to buy underwear from Marks & Spencer�s, you want to buy a T-shirt from Next, you want to go on a holiday of a lifetime on a beautiful island off the coast of India, do you really want to spend your money on a government that chooses to lock 300,000 people up behind barbed wire?" "A country that is the most dangerous in the world to be a journalist." "A country where we can see on Channel 4 News young men, naked and bound, shot at close range." "Is that what we want for our money? For our democracy?" On 25 August Channel 4 News broadcast footage which appeared to show Sri Lankan forces executing Tamils. The footage allegedly dated from January of this year, several months before Sri Lanka declared victory over the Tamil Tigers after a civil war that had lasted more than a quarter of a century.

  276. In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Oct. 5, 11:40 P.M., I’d make two points:
    1. I’d suggest that those interested in seeing what Amnesty International has said about human rights violations committed by governments other than the Sri Lankan government should review the appropriate country pages on the AIUSA website.
    2. I don’t know how to make myself clearer on the subject of “democracy” as the comment refers to it. As I said earlier, to take one example, if a majority of people in Sri Lanka voted to have the police torture all suspects, that would not mean that the suspects lost their right to be free from torture. People have certain rights inherent in their dignity as people, not because a majority in their country voted to allow them those rights. AI had called on the Sri Lankan government to observe the laws of war and international human rights in the government’s conduct of the war against the LTTE. AI did not prescribe military or political strategies to the government in the conduct of the war, with the exception that we did call for a temporary ceasefire during the last months of the war when it appeared that continuing hostilities would necessarily cause many civilian casualties.

  277. Thanks Jim for the clarifications – but – at the same time, AI or any other organization should understand that there is something called Being Practical. If not it would be like a fairy tale. Something like Marxism – looks nice on paper, but not quite practical…

    Surely what you stand for looks quite nice on paper where even a murdered would be treated with dignity – set the fellow free and he would continue the killing spree. But, punish the fellow and there there is a possibility of the fellow turning right – if not eleminate so that many other peace loving would live happily.. Am I right ??

    It is good that an organization like AI is there to constantly remind the others of the values of the Human Rights – like the WWF etc.. for nature related matter – but can we actually get rid of coal plants or oil rigs ? it is a part of the development of the human civilization – like eliminating Terrorists…

    The important fact would be for organizations to be a bit more responsible when it come to sensitive issues and look beyond the written law and look at the spirit of the law – you keep in check, pressurize etc… but know the limits of doing so… Not over do it… You do that and I am with you !!

  278. The Sri Lankan government should publish the details of the Internally Displaced Persons (IDP) immediately, says the Civil Monitoring Commission (CMC).
    CMC convener and parliamentarian Mano Ganesan said the government should reveal the information of the IDPs including names, permanent addresses, National Identification Card (NIC) numbers and other personal details of the IDPs .
    The press release issued by the CMC on Sunday said that it want the government publish the ‘details of the 150000 IDPs it claims to have registered and the details of the 110 000 IDP’s whom it claims to have issued identity cards (ID) at the camps’.

    CMC said it is prepared to work with the government to launch a website to publish the details for the benefit of Tamils and the international community.

    “The government should know that providing IDP details to the family members in Sri Lanka and abroad is vital than providing it to the international community” CMC pointed out.

    Meanwhile, Tamil and Muslim leaders in Sri Lanka have joined together to call the IDP camps in northern Sri Lanka illegal.
    In an unprecedented statement, leaders from five political parties representing the two main minority communities urged the government that the IDPs “should be released immediately to return to their homes”.
    Tamil leaders R. Sampanthan MP, V. Anandasangaree, Mano Ganesan MP and K. Vigneswaran and Muslim leader Rauff Hakim MP are signatories to the statement released to media on Thursday.

  279. 2000 IDPs in Menik Farm camp identified with special needs

    Around two thousand Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) detained in Zone 3 camp in Menik Farm alone in Vavuniyaa have been identified with special needs. Among them are children, women and others who have lost limbs, eye sight, and hearing in the war. Some children born with deformity have also been identified in Zone 3 camp, civil authorities in Vavuniyaa said.
    The report complied by the civil authority has been forwarded to the Social Service Department for further action.

    Monsoons threaten to aggravate the problems of the tens of thousands of civil war displaced people living in cramped camps in Sri Lanka, agencies say. But the Sri Lankan government, which has kept civilians in the camps since May when its military claimed victory over the Tamil Tiger rebels, says it is taking measures to ensure their welfare, the BBC reported. Only about 10 percent of refugees have been resettled. U.N. agencies warn the camps in the northern part of the island nation will flood with the onset of the monsoon season and leave the inmates, already living in deplorable conditions, with no clean water. The report said camp residents experienced a similar situation in August when sudden storms flooded the facilities, submerging toilets and contaminating water.

    Addressing the final day of the 2009 Labour party conference, former Labour whip Siobhain McDonagh MP draws attention to Channel 4 News coverage of events in Sri Lanka. Ms McDonagh told the conference – “Next time you want to buy underwear from Marks & Spencer�s, you want to buy a T-shirt from Next, you want to go on a holiday of a lifetime on a beautiful island off the coast of India, do you really want to spend your money on a government that chooses to lock 300,000 people up behind barbed wire?” “A country that is the most dangerous in the world to be a journalist.” “A country where we can see on Channel 4 News young men, naked and bound, shot at close range.” “Is that what we want for our money? For our democracy?” On 25 August Channel 4 News broadcast footage which appeared to show Sri Lankan forces executing Tamils. The footage allegedly dated from January of this year, several months before Sri Lanka declared victory over the Tamil Tigers after a civil war that had lasted more than a quarter of a century.

  280. There is absolutely no proof that the Army was shelling the no-fire zone.. It stands to reason that the LTTE shelled civilian locations to create a humanitarian situation. It's amusing when Gnanvakumar and other London rapid Eelamists claim that the government was shelling them. It's not possible to identify shells purely by sight.

    The U. S. government noted recently that there has been no incident of rape under SLA action in this recent conflict (2006-present) and only a few isolated incidents earlier (which resulted in convictions).

    The Channel 4 video has been disproved conclusively by scientific evidence and the original video with Tamil voices has surfaced (from ant-Sri Lankan sources no less!)

    Discrimination that these Eelamists claim is not what they've witnessed but the skewered ideas that the separatist have pushed down their throats to drive forward the separatist movement.

    Let's start in 1956.. Sinhala Only was introduced in 1956 but wasn't passed till 1961. At no time was Tamil banned. The law simply meant government positions operated using Sinhala. Provisions for Tamil were passed in 1966 allowing its use in the North and the East. Around 1977 further concessions were made.

    The University standardization occurred in the early 1970s. It was stopped in 1977. This placed quotas on all groups off people depending on their social class not just ethnicity. And considering that Tamils held 60% or so of government positions up till this time while constituting only about 10% of the population the Sinhalese were discriminated against up till then.

    And, to put all this in perspective – caste discrimination ruled Tamils up till the late-70s. Low caste Tamils weren't allowed to enter Hindu temples and the High Class didn't even consider them real Tamils. Considering these circumstances government positions not being conducted under English (Tamil wasn't the government language before 1956 either!!!!) wasn't the main concern of a majority of Tamils.

    Nice of you Gadin Ram to share your paranoia. There's freedom of movement in Sri Lanka btw where unsettled areas can be settled by people of any ethnicity. There is not "Tamil homeland" where a certain area is set off for the mono-ethnic use. If you want this, go to the Tamil Nadu where it's 100% Tamils.

    And it's nice Jim McDonald that you choose to reprimand Mango for speaking orderly while Vanni's spamming is not noted.

  281. Thanks Jim for the clarifications – but – at the same time, AI or any other organization should understand that there is something called Being Practical. If not it would be like a fairy tale. Something like Marxism – looks nice on paper, but not quite practical…

    Surely what you stand for looks quite nice on paper where even a murdered would be treated with dignity – set the fellow free and he would continue the killing spree. But, punish the fellow and there there is a possibility of the fellow turning right – if not eleminate so that many other peace loving would live happily.. Am I right ??

    It is good that an organization like AI is there to constantly remind the others of the values of the Human Rights – like the WWF etc.. for nature related matter – but can we actually get rid of coal plants or oil rigs ? it is a part of the development of the human civilization – like eliminating Terrorists…

    The important fact would be for organizations to be a bit more responsible when it come to sensitive issues and look beyond the written law and look at the spirit of the law – you keep in check, pressurize etc… but know the limits of doing so… Not over do it… You do that and I am with you !!

  282. There is absolutely no proof that the Army was shelling the no-fire zone.. It stands to reason that the LTTE shelled civilian locations to create a humanitarian situation. It’s amusing when Gnanvakumar and other London rapid Eelamists claim that the government was shelling them. It’s not possible to identify shells purely by sight.

    The U. S. government noted recently that there has been no incident of rape under SLA action in this recent conflict (2006-present) and only a few isolated incidents earlier (which resulted in convictions).

    The Channel 4 video has been disproved conclusively by scientific evidence and the original video with Tamil voices has surfaced (from ant-Sri Lankan sources no less!)

    Discrimination that these Eelamists claim is not what they’ve witnessed but the skewered ideas that the separatist have pushed down their throats to drive forward the separatist movement.

    Let’s start in 1956.. Sinhala Only was introduced in 1956 but wasn’t passed till 1961. At no time was Tamil banned. The law simply meant government positions operated using Sinhala. Provisions for Tamil were passed in 1966 allowing its use in the North and the East. Around 1977 further concessions were made.

    The University standardization occurred in the early 1970s. It was stopped in 1977. This placed quotas on all groups off people depending on their social class not just ethnicity. And considering that Tamils held 60% or so of government positions up till this time while constituting only about 10% of the population the Sinhalese were discriminated against up till then.

    And, to put all this in perspective – caste discrimination ruled Tamils up till the late-70s. Low caste Tamils weren’t allowed to enter Hindu temples and the High Class didn’t even consider them real Tamils. Considering these circumstances government positions not being conducted under English (Tamil wasn’t the government language before 1956 either!!!!) wasn’t the main concern of a majority of Tamils.

    Nice of you Gadin Ram to share your paranoia. There’s freedom of movement in Sri Lanka btw where unsettled areas can be settled by people of any ethnicity. There is not “Tamil homeland” where a certain area is set off for the mono-ethnic use. If you want this, go to the Tamil Nadu where it’s 100% Tamils.

    And it’s nice Jim McDonald that you choose to reprimand Mango for speaking orderly while Vanni’s spamming is not noted.

  283. Dear Jim,

    I'm glad that you agree with my well proven assertion that in certain instances terrorist organisations must be crushed. Further, sometimes the overall HR situation in a country can only be improved by killing the relevant people. Cambodia, Sierra Leone and now, Sri Lanka are good examples the above.

    In response to Mango’s comment of Oct. 5, 1:13 P.M., I’d make the following points:
    1. The argument in the comment rests on the assumption that if the government’s course of action in conducting the war as it did had not been followed, there were only two other possible outcomes: an LTTE victory or unending war.

    2. Personally, I don’t accept that assumption.
    OK. Tell me what would've happened had the LTTE been allowed to remain as a viable entity with its' arms and cadres intact? 'Not accepting it' simply isn't good enough, from AI, who after all, allegedly has HR concerns as its very reason for being.

    3. AI was calling on the government to observe the laws of war as it fought the LTTE. We insisted that the government’s argument, that the laws of war could be ignored in the interests of obtaining victory, could not be accepted. International law requires that the government find another way of fighting, one that did not involve violations of international humanitarian law, including war crimes.
    I don't recall the SL govt ever saying that they were ignoring the Laws of War. Do you mean civilian deaths in the last stage of combat, when the LTTE was using the civilians as hostages?

    Key principles when facing civilian casualties during a military assault/conflict.
    1. A military target remains a legitimate military target, even if it is located in a civilian area. The LTTE hid their mortars and heavy artillery amongst civilians to prevent the SL govt from legitimately destroying these units.

    2. The use of civilians as shields to try to prevent attacks on military targets is prohibited. Further comment on this aspect of the LTTE's strategy is futile.

    3. "The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."
    4th Geneva Convention, Article 28.

    4. The armed forces are not liable where injury to civilians results from unavoidable collateral damage, provided it is proportionate to the military gain expected of the attack.

    5. "Civilians do not enjoy absolute immunity. Their presence will not render military objects immune from attack for the mere reason that it is impossible to bombard them without causing injury to the non-combatants." Oppenheim's 'International Law'

    Fact 1: The LTTE used the Wanni civilians as a shield to prevent attacks on their forces by SL govt forces. Yes or No? Yes.

    Fact 2: The LTTE intermingled their fighting positions amongst the civilians in the 'No Fire Zone'. Yes or No? Yes..

    All of the above conditions existed during the last phase of combat. And the SL govt did what they could to minimise civilians casualties during the final assault, but they were acting entirely within legal limits noted above.

    Hell, there's even UAV footage of LTTE cadres shooting at civilians trying to escape 'Eelam-by-the-Sea' in Puthumathalan!

    4. I don’t believe the future is as pre-determined as the argument in Mango’s comment suggests it is. The government didn’t try any other way than its military strategy which disregarded the risks to civilians caught in the war zone.
    For a 'Sri Lanka' specialist within AI, are you unaware of the many, many peace talks and peace traps laid by the LTTE in the intervening 30 years? This govt and all previous ones bent over backwards to meet the LTTE's demands half-way. These are matters of fact and not opinion. If you deny this, I can only conclude that anything AI have to say on the SL situation should be disregarded.

    I have made my assertions on the basis of proven factual evidence of the LTTE always breaking ceasefires to re-start the war, after it had replensihsed its' arms and re-strenghtned its' cadres. Eelam War IV was no exception other than they got more than they bargained for!

    Based on the evidence and the LTTE's own pronouncements ('Final Battle, 2006 is Year of War, massive fundraising etc),they were not willing to countenance anything other than a separate state, carved out of SL through violent, non-democratic means. I'm highly amused that AI try to pretend otherwise when Eelamists themselves admit that that was the LTTE's stated and open strategy.

    5. If the assumption in the argument is not accepted, the rest of the argument does not hold.
    Disprove my argument rather than merely saying you don't accept it. I've already disproved your assertions about why the LTTE had to be crushed and that futile ceasefires would only result in more combat deaths and further degradation of SL society & polity.

  284. Sri Lanka has now deceived the western countries and revealed its true face. Sri Lanka lied to the whole world that it was conducting a war with surgical strikes and “Zero Civilian Causalities”. It also denied that heavy wea