AIUSA activists in Chicago demand the release of Internally Displaced People in Sri Lanka. November 2009. (c) AI
Across the U.S., from Boston to Chicago to San Francisco, Amnesty International activists are demanding: “Unlock the camps in Sri Lanka!”
As the 26-year-old war between the Sri Lankan government and the opposition Tamil Tigers ended this past May, about 280,000 Tamil civilians fleeing the fighting were put in overcrowded, military-run camps which they were not allowed to leave. The Sri Lankan government said that the civilians first had to be screened to determine if any of them were Tiger fighters. Amnesty International has pointed out that this constitutes arbitrary detention and violates the civilians’ right to freedom of movement.
Although some civilians have been released from the camps, around 150,000 still remain and camp shelters have deteriorated as Sri Lanka has entered the rainy season.
Amnesty’s “Unlock the Camps” campaign calls on the Sri Lankan government to let civilians leave the camps if they wish, to put the camps under civilian (not military) management, and to allow aid agencies full access to the camps.
Earlier this month, AIUSA members gathered in Boston and San Franscisco signed petitions and postcards demanding that the Sri Lankan government “Unlock the Camps!”
Activists in San Francisco sign petitions to urge the Sri Lankan government to release IDPs. November 2009. (c) AI
Today, it was Chicago’s turn. I joined activists from the AIUSA Chicago office and demonstrated in downtown Chicago. Despite the rain and wind, we made our voices heard. One man signing the petition told us that he had just returned from Sri Lanka and didn’t think anyone in the U.S. cared about what was going on there. We were happy to show him that he was wrong.
Also today, AIUSA sent a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton asking the U.S. government to publicly express concern about the treatment of the displaced civilians. The campaign was also publicized in a college paper today.
We’ll keep campaigning for the displaced civilians until their rights are restored. Please join our campaign and add your voice.
They are unlocked !!
How else can 300,000 + be reduced to 130,000 at this moment when I am typing this mail ??
It is been done in a rightful manner and not in a hap hazard manner – So why the unwarranted pressure on a government that brought peace to a nation battered by Terrorists ?? Why did you not take all this kind of actions against the terrorist Tigers when they were killing innocent Sri Lankans including Tamils – why the sudden interest ??
They are unlocked !!
How else can 300,000 + be reduced to 130,000 at this moment when I am typing this mail ??
It is been done in a rightful manner and not in a hap hazard manner – So why the unwarranted pressure on a government that brought peace to a nation battered by Terrorists ?? Why did you not take all this kind of actions against the terrorist Tigers when they were killing innocent Sri Lankans including Tamils – why the sudden interest ??
@ Jim Pappa,
"They are unlocked !!" Are you kidding?
They have transferred from large camps in to small camps to hide from the media. Please do not spread false propaganda here.
@ Jim Pappa,
“They are unlocked !!” Are you kidding?
They have transferred from large camps in to small camps to hide from the media. Please do not spread false propaganda here.
In response to Jim Pappa's comment above, I'd suggest that those interested read the AI public statement referred to in my blog entry. There are concerns that some of the civilians who've been transferred from the camps have been moved to other transit sites where their freedom of movement is still restricted. I also don't understand the reference in the comment to "sudden interest;" a review of the Sri Lanka page (www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka) will show that AI has publicly condemned the human rights abuses committed by each side in Sri Lanka, whether by the security forces or the Tigers, for many years.
Also, I might suggest reviewing the open letter issued today by AI to the Commonwealth Heads of Government – http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/ASA37/025/….
In response to Jim Pappa's comment above, I'd suggest that those interested read the AI public statement referred to in my blog entry. There are concerns that some of the civilians who've been transferred from the camps have been moved to other transit sites where their freedom of movement is still restricted. I also don't understand the reference in the comment to "sudden interest;" a review of the Sri Lanka page (www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka) will show that AI has publicly condemned the human rights abuses committed by each side in Sri Lanka, whether by the security forces or the Tigers, for many years.
Also, I might suggest reviewing the open letter issued today by AI to the Commonwealth Heads of Government – http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/ASA37/025/….
AI: Appreciate your efforts here. I think the voices of the international community need to get stronger and force the government to treat Tamils as human beings.
More than 6 months have passed and all the 300,000 people remain locked in transit camps or main camps. The recent eyewitness report on groundviews shows the dire situation that the Tamils face there: http://www.groundviews.org/2009/11/18/180-days-af…
Jimmy Pappa: Thanks for commenting and consistently showing and confirming to the world the racist mindset of the average Sinhalese in Srilanka. Please continue making your "valuable contributions" to this forum.
AI: Appreciate your efforts here. I think the voices of the international community need to get stronger and force the government to treat Tamils as human beings.
More than 6 months have passed and all the 300,000 people remain locked in transit camps or main camps. The recent eyewitness report on groundviews shows the dire situation that the Tamils face there: http://www.groundviews.org/2009/11/18/180-days-af…
Jimmy Pappa: Thanks for commenting and consistently showing and confirming to the world the racist mindset of the average Sinhalese in Srilanka. Please continue making your "valuable contributions" to this forum.
ya that should be closed. I think the voices of the world community need to be get very stronger and powerful and realy push the government to treat tamils to be human beings not like animals.
James, Jim,
It indeed is true that some of the people are sent to transit sites – NOT ALL.. This is for screening purposes of LTTE members hiding among civilians. This obviously is necessary as even yesterday, one of the released and non-screened LTTE person was arrested with a lorry load of explosives. You who shout for HR will go numb if those explosives had been brought to the city and blasted several hundred innocent civilians.
You guys do not understand the gravity behind the whole situation. There still are Terrorists out there and they need to be either eliminated or taken in to custody and rehabilitated. This cannot be done overnight – you are fools if you think it could happen over night if so…
Eventhough sri lanka's propaganda tell that many IDPs are released, Tamils in vanni not allowed to go to their homes. Atlest 41,000 vanni tamils removed from vavuniya camps, and send to Jaffna open air prisons. It is true some IDPs allowed to go to relative, in vavuniya some houses filled with IDPs, in some case upto 40-50 people per home. Why sri lanka not allowing Tamils to go home, allow free media, allow NGO's…, It say demining, but actually dehouse, destroy all Tamils properties,.. Government has experience using cluster bombs on Tamils. Same thing now, largest concentration camps are blasted into small camps, but still manik campis largest
35,000 IDP students still held in Vavuniyaa internment camps http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
These pictures will tell many stories.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8297760.stm
Thanks AIUSA 4 your voice of Voiceless/homeless/freedomless/helpless/careless/Hopeless… Tamils in the concentration camps.
World leaders has to unlock the camps.
unlock the camps http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/unlock-the-camps-…
unlock the camps http://www.topix.com/forum/world/sri-lanka/TQJETU…
In response to Jim Pappa’s comment above, I’d suggest that those interested read the AI public statement referred to in my blog entry. There are concerns that some of the civilians who’ve been transferred from the camps have been moved to other transit sites where their freedom of movement is still restricted. I also don’t understand the reference in the comment to “sudden interest;” a review of the Sri Lanka page (www.amnestyusa.org/srilanka) will show that AI has publicly condemned the human rights abuses committed by each side in Sri Lanka, whether by the security forces or the Tigers, for many years.
Also, I might suggest reviewing the open letter issued today by AI to the Commonwealth Heads of Government – http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/ASA37/025/2009/en.
Eventhough sri lanka's propaganda tell that many IDPs are released, Tamils in vanni not allowed to go to their homes. Atlest 41,000 vanni tamils removed from vavuniya camps, and send to Jaffna open air prisons. It is true some IDPs allowed to go to relative, in vavuniya some houses filled with IDPs, in some case upto 40-50 people per home. Why sri lanka not allowing Tamils to go home, allow free media, allow NGO's…, It say demining, but actually dehouse, destroy all Tamils properties,.. Government has experience using cluster bombs on Tamils. Same thing now, largest concentration camps are blasted into small camps, but still manik campis largest
35,000 IDP students still held in Vavuniyaa internment camps http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
These pictures will tell many stories.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8297760.stm
Thanks AIUSA 4 your voice of Voiceless/homeless/freedomless/helpless/careless/Hopeless… Tamils in the concentration camps.
World leaders has to unlock the camps.
unlock the camps http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/unlock-the-camps-…
unlock the camps http://www.topix.com/forum/world/sri-lanka/TQJETU…
AI: Appreciate your efforts here. I think the voices of the international community need to get stronger and force the government to treat Tamils as human beings.
More than 6 months have passed and all the 300,000 people remain locked in transit camps or main camps. The recent eyewitness report on groundviews shows the dire situation that the Tamils face there:
http://www.groundviews.org/2009/11/18/180-days-after-end-of-war-the-much-anticipated-return-of-idps-an-eyewitness-account/
Jimmy Pappa: Thanks for commenting and consistently showing and confirming to the world the racist mindset of the average Sinhalese in Srilanka. Please continue making your “valuable contributions” to this forum.
ya that should be closed. I think the voices of the world community need to be get very stronger and powerful and realy push the government to treat tamils to be human beings not like animals.
ya that should be closed. I think the voices of the world community need to be get very stronger and powerful and realy push the government to treat tamils to be human beings not like animals.
ya that should be closed. I think the voices of the world community need to be get very stronger and powerful and realy push the government to treat tamils to be human beings not like animals.
ya that should be closed. I think the voices of the world community need to be get very stronger and powerful and realy push the government to treat tamils to be human beings not like animals.
ya that should be closed. I think the voices of the world community need to be get very stronger and powerful and realy push the government to treat tamils to be human beings not like animals.
ya that should be closed. I think the voices of the world community need to be get very stronger and powerful and realy push the government to treat tamils to be human beings not like animals.
James, Jim,
It indeed is true that some of the people are sent to transit sites – NOT ALL.. This is for screening purposes of LTTE members hiding among civilians. This obviously is necessary as even yesterday, one of the released and non-screened LTTE person was arrested with a lorry load of explosives. You who shout for HR will go numb if those explosives had been brought to the city and blasted several hundred innocent civilians.
You guys do not understand the gravity behind the whole situation. There still are Terrorists out there and they need to be either eliminated or taken in to custody and rehabilitated. This cannot be done overnight – you are fools if you think it could happen over night if so…
Jim MD !!
Do you still intend to block a person like Mango who actually speaks out and allow someone like "Stop Crime" to continue pasting links here?? When do we see some decent conversation happening here ?? Some of the links are quite irrelevant here and irritating as they are meant for different causes and causes of Terrorism – as in Eelam… I wish to see justice done by an organization who cry out for justice here !!
Eventhough sri lanka’s propaganda tell that many IDPs are released, Tamils in vanni not allowed to go to their homes. Atlest 41,000 vanni tamils removed from vavuniya camps, and send to Jaffna open air prisons. It is true some IDPs allowed to go to relative, in vavuniya some houses filled with IDPs, in some case upto 40-50 people per home. Why sri lanka not allowing Tamils to go home, allow free media, allow NGO’s…, It say demining, but actually dehouse, destroy all Tamils properties,.. Government has experience using cluster bombs on Tamils. Same thing now, largest concentration camps are blasted into small camps, but still manik campis largest
35,000 IDP students still held in Vavuniyaa internment camps
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=30567
These pictures will tell many stories..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8297760.stm
Thanks AIUSA 4 your voice of Voiceless/homeless/freedomless/helpless/careless/Hopeless… Tamils in the concentration camps.
World leaders has to unlock the camps.
unlock the camps
http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/unlock-the-camps-in-sri-lanka/
unlock the camps
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/sri-lanka/TQJETU7CIHTL0Q11Q
This is just a continuation of a long-running hate and oppression campaign against Tamil people in Sri Lanka. The underlying psyche is evident to anybody who looks: http://www.metaot.com/blog/occupational-alienatio…
Nobody is free in Sri Lanka, and nobody who speaks of freedom there is safe.
V
This is just a continuation of a long-running hate and oppression campaign against Tamil people in Sri Lanka. The underlying psyche is evident to anybody who looks: http://www.metaot.com/blog/occupational-alienatio…
Nobody is free in Sri Lanka, and nobody who speaks of freedom there is safe.
V
Ognam
Its clear that AI's commitment to 'free speech' only extends to those who are willing to act as their echo chamber. i.e. agree with everything AI says or demands. Hence my ridiculous acronym.
AI are still afraid to answer my questions about their sources of funding in case it exposes their lie about being 'independent of any government', which they patently are not. AI gets funding from Western bloc governments and can thus be considered to be agents of the Western bloc. If AI have nothing to hide, let the light of free enquiry fall upon AI's funding and accounts! 🙂
The SL IDP camps are slowly being cleared and the people being re-settled. The most interesting comment by Holmes, (UN) is this:
..""The places I saw have got basic services," but areas where people were coming back to must be "properly de-mined and certified as de-mined,"
Helllloooo… is anyone from AI, HRW and the rest of the Western HR circus in a position to comment on this?
Note the standard AI demand that aid organisations be allowed access to the IDP. As has been stated ad nausuem, there are over 50 NGOs active in the IDP camps. Except for poor AI.
So my question to AI, as I've asked previously.
If, due to pressure from self-appointed HR organisations and the IC, civilians are returned to areas not properly cleared of mines, will you compensate these civilians when they lose their lives and limbs?
Perhaps AI should start fund-raising for this eventuality. You could sell t-shirts with the following slogans.
"I love my Jaipur Leg. Thanks to Amnesty International"
"My father went to the Vanni and all I got was one-legged jeans"
"Vanni One-Legged Race Champion. Sponsored by Amnesty International"
Here's one I designed for AI, for free.
http://yfrog.com/28picture1onvp
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5968/picture1onv…
It should be obvious to everyone, except for the die-hard Eelamists that AI isn't interested in the general well-being and security of ALL Sri Lankans. For AI, HR trumps all other concerns. Well, in the reality-based community that SL operates in, HR is important, but security concerns also need to be considered.
So, this campaign will be just another howl into the wind, with AI's tame Western bloc followers mindlessly parroting whatever slogans are given out from AI HQ.
Jim Pappa: I hear that Elite Cubicles are now in even greater supply in Colombo 7.
Jim MD !!
Do you still intend to block a person like Mango who actually speaks out and allow someone like “Stop Crime” to continue pasting links here?? When do we see some decent conversation happening here ?? Some of the links are quite irrelevant here and irritating as they are meant for different causes and causes of Terrorism – as in Eelam… I wish to see justice done by an organization who cry out for justice here !!
Ognam
Its clear that AI's commitment to 'free speech' only extends to those who are willing to act as their echo chamber. i.e. agree with everything AI says or demands. Hence my ridiculous acronym.
AI are still afraid to answer my questions about their sources of funding in case it exposes their lie about being 'independent of any government', which they patently are not. AI gets funding from Western bloc governments and can thus be considered to be agents of the Western bloc. If AI have nothing to hide, let the light of free enquiry fall upon AI's funding and accounts! 🙂
The SL IDP camps are slowly being cleared and the people being re-settled. The most interesting comment by Holmes, (UN) is this:
..""The places I saw have got basic services," but areas where people were coming back to must be "properly de-mined and certified as de-mined,"
Helllloooo… is anyone from AI, HRW and the rest of the Western HR circus in a position to comment on this?
Note the standard AI demand that aid organisations be allowed access to the IDP. As has been stated ad nausuem, there are over 50 NGOs active in the IDP camps. Except for poor AI.
So my question to AI, as I've asked previously.
If, due to pressure from self-appointed HR organisations and the IC, civilians are returned to areas not properly cleared of mines, will you compensate these civilians when they lose their lives and limbs?
Perhaps AI should start fund-raising for this eventuality. You could sell t-shirts with the following slogans.
"I love my Jaipur Leg. Thanks to Amnesty International"
"My father went to the Vanni and all I got was one-legged jeans"
"Vanni One-Legged Race Champion. Sponsored by Amnesty International"
Here's one I designed for AI, for free.
http://yfrog.com/28picture1onvp
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5968/picture1onv…
It should be obvious to everyone, except for the die-hard Eelamists that AI isn't interested in the general well-being and security of ALL Sri Lankans. For AI, HR trumps all other concerns. Well, in the reality-based community that SL operates in, HR is important, but security concerns also need to be considered.
So, this campaign will be just another howl into the wind, with AI's tame Western bloc followers mindlessly parroting whatever slogans are given out from AI HQ.
Jim Pappa: I hear that Elite Cubicles are now in even greater supply in Colombo 7.
This is just a continuation of a long-running hate and oppression campaign against Tamil people in Sri Lanka. The underlying psyche is evident to anybody who looks: http://www.metaot.com/blog/occupational-alienation-personal-perspective
Nobody is free in Sri Lanka, and nobody who speaks of freedom there is safe.
V
Ognam
Its clear that AI’s commitment to ‘free speech’ only extends to those who are willing to act as their echo chamber. i.e. agree with everything AI says or demands. Hence my ridiculous acronym.
AI are still afraid to answer my questions about their sources of funding in case it exposes their lie about being ‘independent of any government’, which they patently are not. AI gets funding from Western bloc governments and can thus be considered to be agents of the Western bloc. If AI have nothing to hide, let the light of free enquiry fall upon AI’s funding and accounts! 🙂
The SL IDP camps are slowly being cleared and the people being re-settled. The most interesting comment by Holmes, (UN) is this:
..””The places I saw have got basic services,” but areas where people were coming back to must be “properly de-mined and certified as de-mined,”
Helllloooo… is anyone from AI, HRW and the rest of the Western HR circus in a position to comment on this?
Note the standard AI demand that aid organisations be allowed access to the IDP. As has been stated ad nausuem, there are over 50 NGOs active in the IDP camps. Except for poor AI.
So my question to AI, as I’ve asked previously.
If, due to pressure from self-appointed HR organisations and the IC, civilians are returned to areas not properly cleared of mines, will you compensate these civilians when they lose their lives and limbs?
Perhaps AI should start fund-raising for this eventuality. You could sell t-shirts with the following slogans.
“I love my Jaipur Leg. Thanks to Amnesty International”
“My father went to the Vanni and all I got was one-legged jeans”
“Vanni One-Legged Race Champion. Sponsored by Amnesty International”
Here’s one I designed for AI, for free.
http://yfrog.com/28picture1onvp
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5968/picture1onv.png
It should be obvious to everyone, except for the die-hard Eelamists that AI isn’t interested in the general well-being and security of ALL Sri Lankans. For AI, HR trumps all other concerns. Well, in the reality-based community that SL operates in, HR is important, but security concerns also need to be considered.
So, this campaign will be just another howl into the wind, with AI’s tame Western bloc followers mindlessly parroting whatever slogans are given out from AI HQ.
Jim Pappa: I hear that Elite Cubicles are now in even greater supply in Colombo 7.
Truth hurt pappa?
Truth hurt pappa?
Its clear that AI's commitment to 'free speech' only extends to those who are willing to act as their echo chamber. i.e. agree with everything AI says or demands. Hence my ridiculous acronym.
AI are still avoiding answering my questions about their sources of funding in case it exposes their lie about being 'independent of any government', which they patently are not. AI gets funding from Western bloc governments and can thus be considered to be agents of the Western bloc. If AI have nothing to hide, let the light of free enquiry fall upon AI's funding and accounts! 🙂
The SL IDP camps are slowly being cleared and the people being re-settled. The most interesting comment by Holmes, (UN) is this:
..""The places I saw have got basic services," but areas where people were coming back to must be "properly de-mined and certified as de-mined,"
Helllloooo… is anyone from AI, HRW and the rest of the Western HR circus in a position to comment on this?
Note the standard AI 'cut-n-paste' demand that aid organisations be allowed access to the IDP. As has been stated ad nausuem, there are over 50 NGOs active in the IDP camps. Except for poor AI.
So my question to AI, as I've asked previously.
If, due to pressure from self-appointed HR organisations and the IC, civilians are returned to areas not properly cleared of mines, will you compensate these civilians when they lose their lives and limbs?
Perhaps AI should start fund-raising for this eventuality. You could sell t-shirts with the following slogans.
"I love my Jaipur Leg. Thanks to Amnesty International"
"My father went to the Vanni and all I got was one-legged jeans"
"Vanni One-Legged Race Champion. Sponsored by Amnesty International"
Here's one I designed for AI, for free.
http://yfrog.com/28picture1onvp
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5968/picture1onv…
It should be obvious to everyone, except for the die-hard Eelamists that AI isn't interested in the general well-being and security of ALL Sri Lankans. For AI, HR trumps all other concerns. Well, in the reality-based community that SL operates in, HR is important, but security concerns also need to be considered.
So, this campaign will be just another howl into the wind, with AI's tame Western bloc followers mindlessly parroting whatever slogans are given out from AI HQ.
Jim Pappa: I hear that Elite Cubicles are now in even greater supply in Colombo 7.
Oh Sin Hell (my, my, aren't we amusing today?) the truth does hurt AI. They don't like it up 'em.
In response to Ognam2's comment above, I'd make the following points:
1. I'll leave it to the Editors to discuss the Terms of Use for this site and how and when commenters are restricted or blocked.
2. As I've said previously in another forum, I've asked within AI about whether AI gets any funding from the EU or the U.K. government. I haven't heard back; when I do, I'll let people know. But given the comment, I'm wondering why I should be bothering; after all, Ognam2 has already decided that AI does get funding from Western governments. The evidence for that conclusion is not provided in the comment. The fact I haven't gotten an answer back yet doesn't prove anything. And given the tenor of the comment, I wonder why any answer I provide would be believed if it doesn't fit within the preconceived ideas of the person asking. After all, if someone says we're lying in our published documents, why would they believe anything I say? And if that's the case, why should I be bothering busy people to provide an answer that may not be believed anyway?
3. It's discouraging to keep dealing with comments that are either deliberately misrepresenting AI's position or betray an ignorance of what AI is calling for. Ognam2's comment implies that AI disagrees with Undersecretary Holmes' statement that the villages must be properly de-mined before people are allowed to return to them. Ognam2 has made this assertion before. It's never been true. Just read what AI has been saying in our public statements and reports on the displaced civilians. The civilians should be allowed freedom of movement; i.e., they should be allowed to leave the camps if they wish. We are not saying that they should be returned to any areas that are unsafe and haven't been first properly de-mined.
4. We know there are aid agencies working in the camps. We're asking that they be granted unhindered access to the people in the camps, so the agencies can carry out their advocacy and monitoring functions. They haven't been allowed to talk privately with the civilians in the camps. For more information on this issue, please see pages 10-12 of our briefing paper (at http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/sri_lanka/unl….
Its clear that AI's commitment to 'free speech' only extends to those who are willing to act as their echo chamber. i.e. agree with everything AI says or demands. Hence my ridiculous acronym.
AI are still avoiding answering my questions about their sources of funding in case it exposes their lie about being 'independent of any government', which they patently are not. AI gets funding from Western bloc governments and can thus be considered to be agents of the Western bloc. If AI have nothing to hide, let the light of free enquiry fall upon AI's funding and accounts! 🙂
The SL IDP camps are slowly being cleared and the people being re-settled. The most interesting comment by Holmes, (UN) is this:
..""The places I saw have got basic services," but areas where people were coming back to must be "properly de-mined and certified as de-mined,"
Helllloooo… is anyone from AI, HRW and the rest of the Western HR circus in a position to comment on this?
Note the standard AI 'cut-n-paste' demand that aid organisations be allowed access to the IDP. As has been stated ad nausuem, there are over 50 NGOs active in the IDP camps. Except for poor AI.
So my question to AI, as I've asked previously.
If, due to pressure from self-appointed HR organisations and the IC, civilians are returned to areas not properly cleared of mines, will you compensate these civilians when they lose their lives and limbs?
Perhaps AI should start fund-raising for this eventuality. You could sell t-shirts with the following slogans.
"I love my Jaipur Leg. Thanks to Amnesty International"
"My father went to the Vanni and all I got was one-legged jeans"
"Vanni One-Legged Race Champion. Sponsored by Amnesty International"
Here's one I designed for AI, for free.
http://yfrog.com/28picture1onvp
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5968/picture1onv…
It should be obvious to everyone, except for the die-hard Eelamists that AI isn't interested in the general well-being and security of ALL Sri Lankans. For AI, HR trumps all other concerns. Well, in the reality-based community that SL operates in, HR is important, but security concerns also need to be considered.
So, this campaign will be just another howl into the wind, with AI's tame Western bloc followers mindlessly parroting whatever slogans are given out from AI HQ.
Jim Pappa: I hear that Elite Cubicles are now in even greater supply in Colombo 7.
Oh Sin Hell (my, my, aren't we amusing today?) the truth does hurt AI. They don't like it up 'em.
In response to Ognam2's comment above, I'd make the following points:
1. I'll leave it to the Editors to discuss the Terms of Use for this site and how and when commenters are restricted or blocked.
2. As I've said previously in another forum, I've asked within AI about whether AI gets any funding from the EU or the U.K. government. I haven't heard back; when I do, I'll let people know. But given the comment, I'm wondering why I should be bothering; after all, Ognam2 has already decided that AI does get funding from Western governments. The evidence for that conclusion is not provided in the comment. The fact I haven't gotten an answer back yet doesn't prove anything. And given the tenor of the comment, I wonder why any answer I provide would be believed if it doesn't fit within the preconceived ideas of the person asking. After all, if someone says we're lying in our published documents, why would they believe anything I say? And if that's the case, why should I be bothering busy people to provide an answer that may not be believed anyway?
3. It's discouraging to keep dealing with comments that are either deliberately misrepresenting AI's position or betray an ignorance of what AI is calling for. Ognam2's comment implies that AI disagrees with Undersecretary Holmes' statement that the villages must be properly de-mined before people are allowed to return to them. Ognam2 has made this assertion before. It's never been true. Just read what AI has been saying in our public statements and reports on the displaced civilians. The civilians should be allowed freedom of movement; i.e., they should be allowed to leave the camps if they wish. We are not saying that they should be returned to any areas that are unsafe and haven't been first properly de-mined.
4. We know there are aid agencies working in the camps. We're asking that they be granted unhindered access to the people in the camps, so the agencies can carry out their advocacy and monitoring functions. They haven't been allowed to talk privately with the civilians in the camps. For more information on this issue, please see pages 10-12 of our briefing paper (at http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/sri_lanka/unl….
Mango,
Arguing for freedom of expression for slander! Honestly you should be fighting for freedom of expression in your country than over here.
People making internet comments are arrested in your country and you come here and try to preach on right to express to spread falsehood and malicious slander.
Anyways welcome back – we need more samples of the Sinhala racist mind on this forum so that the world sees the discrimination faced by the Tamils on your island.
Its clear that AI’s commitment to ‘free speech’ only extends to those who are willing to act as their echo chamber. i.e. agree with everything AI says or demands. Hence my ridiculous acronym.
AI are still avoiding answering my questions about their sources of funding in case it exposes their lie about being ‘independent of any government’, which they patently are not. AI gets funding from Western bloc governments and can thus be considered to be agents of the Western bloc. If AI have nothing to hide, let the light of free enquiry fall upon AI’s funding and accounts! 🙂
The SL IDP camps are slowly being cleared and the people being re-settled. The most interesting comment by Holmes, (UN) is this:
..””The places I saw have got basic services,” but areas where people were coming back to must be “properly de-mined and certified as de-mined,”
Helllloooo… is anyone from AI, HRW and the rest of the Western HR circus in a position to comment on this?
Note the standard AI ‘cut-n-paste’ demand that aid organisations be allowed access to the IDP. As has been stated ad nausuem, there are over 50 NGOs active in the IDP camps. Except for poor AI.
So my question to AI, as I’ve asked previously.
If, due to pressure from self-appointed HR organisations and the IC, civilians are returned to areas not properly cleared of mines, will you compensate these civilians when they lose their lives and limbs?
Perhaps AI should start fund-raising for this eventuality. You could sell t-shirts with the following slogans.
“I love my Jaipur Leg. Thanks to Amnesty International”
“My father went to the Vanni and all I got was one-legged jeans”
“Vanni One-Legged Race Champion. Sponsored by Amnesty International”
Here’s one I designed for AI, for free.
http://yfrog.com/28picture1onvp
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5968/picture1onv.png
It should be obvious to everyone, except for the die-hard Eelamists that AI isn’t interested in the general well-being and security of ALL Sri Lankans. For AI, HR trumps all other concerns. Well, in the reality-based community that SL operates in, HR is important, but security concerns also need to be considered.
So, this campaign will be just another howl into the wind, with AI’s tame Western bloc followers mindlessly parroting whatever slogans are given out from AI HQ.
Jim Pappa: I hear that Elite Cubicles are now in even greater supply in Colombo 7.
Oh Sin Hell (my, my, aren’t we amusing today?) the truth does hurt AI. They don’t like it up ’em.
In response to Ognam2’s comment above, I’d make the following points:
1. I’ll leave it to the Editors to discuss the Terms of Use for this site and how and when commenters are restricted or blocked.
2. As I’ve said previously in another forum, I’ve asked within AI about whether AI gets any funding from the EU or the U.K. government. I haven’t heard back; when I do, I’ll let people know. But given the comment, I’m wondering why I should be bothering; after all, Ognam2 has already decided that AI does get funding from Western governments. The evidence for that conclusion is not provided in the comment. The fact I haven’t gotten an answer back yet doesn’t prove anything. And given the tenor of the comment, I wonder why any answer I provide would be believed if it doesn’t fit within the preconceived ideas of the person asking. After all, if someone says we’re lying in our published documents, why would they believe anything I say? And if that’s the case, why should I be bothering busy people to provide an answer that may not be believed anyway?
3. It’s discouraging to keep dealing with comments that are either deliberately misrepresenting AI’s position or betray an ignorance of what AI is calling for. Ognam2’s comment implies that AI disagrees with Undersecretary Holmes’ statement that the villages must be properly de-mined before people are allowed to return to them. Ognam2 has made this assertion before. It’s never been true. Just read what AI has been saying in our public statements and reports on the displaced civilians. The civilians should be allowed freedom of movement; i.e., they should be allowed to leave the camps if they wish. We are not saying that they should be returned to any areas that are unsafe and haven’t been first properly de-mined.
4. We know there are aid agencies working in the camps. We’re asking that they be granted unhindered access to the people in the camps, so the agencies can carry out their advocacy and monitoring functions. They haven’t been allowed to talk privately with the civilians in the camps. For more information on this issue, please see pages 10-12 of our briefing paper (at http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/sri_lanka/unlockthecamps.pdf).
Mango,
Arguing for freedom of expression for slander! Honestly you should be fighting for freedom of expression in your country than over here.
People making internet comments are arrested in your country and you come here and try to preach on right to express to spread falsehood and malicious slander.
Anyways welcome back – we need more samples of the Sinhala racist mind on this forum so that the world sees the discrimination faced by the Tamils on your island.
Dear Jim,
Here's the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
"Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union."
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." That's a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My 'research' took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI's position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
De-mining: I presume by your statement "we are not saying that they should be returned to any areas that are unsafe and haven’t been first properly de-mined." that you agree with the SL govt's position the civilians should be kept away from their original homes until de-mining is complete.
If we follow your reasoning of allowing complete freedom of movement which logically will include free access to their former homes before de-mining is completed…. more Jaipur Legs in Northern Sri Lanka. My disagreement with you (well, not you personally) was that security, de-mining and screening took priority over everything else. In the long run, those who would benefit the most would be the IDPs.
Aid Agencies: your original piece says "…and to allow aid agencies full access to the camps." To an uninformed reader, this implies that no aid agencies are present in the camps and/or are being prevented access. The SL govt is well known for being economical with the the truth. I'm surprised to find AI following their lead! 🙂
Finally, more bad news from SL for the Int'l HR circus.
* All Jaffna IDPs resettled, focus shifts to Vanni West
* Restrictions on public transport, lorries lifted
* Private buses etc await approval
* Security checks on A9 relaxed
http://www.island.lk/2009/11/21/news9.html
No doubt our resident Eelamists will deny this all and instead claim this as 'Relocation Genocide'. If I continue to be censored, you can simply let the Eelamists add more 'genocide' URLs.
p.s. Take a break from worrying about SL and watch probably the best film to come from SL in the last 20 years. It's called 'Machan'. A fictionalisation of the true tale of the fake Sri Lankan national handball team that tricked its way into a tournament in Germany, and spectacularly lost all of its matches before promptly vanishing into thin air.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/nov/…
Humanitarian: Press freedom in SL is less than perfect. No argument. But then a lot of SL society is less than perfect and now that the war is over, will slowly improve with time.
As for you accusing me of being a racist, I defy you to point out a single instance of my 'racism'. i.e. where I've favoured one group of people over another on the account of their skin colour, ethnicity or religion. Detecting and pointing out Eelamists is not racist.
Your comments consistently exhibit concern for Tamil civilians only, to the exclusion of other sectors of SL society. What do you think that makes you? p.s. Don't forget to protest about 'Relocation Genocide'.
Dear Jim,
Here's the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
"Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union."
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." That's a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My 'research' took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI's position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
De-mining: I presume by your statement "we are not saying that they should be returned to any areas that are unsafe and haven’t been first properly de-mined." that you agree with the SL govt's position the civilians should be kept away from their original homes until de-mining is complete.
If we follow your reasoning of allowing complete freedom of movement which logically will include free access to their former homes before de-mining is completed…. more Jaipur Legs in Northern Sri Lanka. My disagreement with you (well, not you personally) was that security, de-mining and screening took priority over everything else. In the long run, those who would benefit the most would be the IDPs.
Aid Agencies: your original piece says "…and to allow aid agencies full access to the camps." To an uninformed reader, this implies that no aid agencies are present in the camps and/or are being prevented access. The SL govt is well known for being economical with the the truth. I'm surprised to find AI following their lead! 🙂
Finally, more bad news from SL for the Int'l HR circus.
* All Jaffna IDPs resettled, focus shifts to Vanni West
* Restrictions on public transport, lorries lifted
* Private buses etc await approval
* Security checks on A9 relaxed
http://www.island.lk/2009/11/21/news9.html
No doubt our resident Eelamists will deny this all and instead claim this as 'Relocation Genocide'. If I continue to be censored, you can simply let the Eelamists add more 'genocide' URLs.
p.s. Take a break from worrying about SL and watch probably the best film to come from SL in the last 20 years. It's called 'Machan'. A fictionalisation of the true tale of the fake Sri Lankan national handball team that tricked its way into a tournament in Germany, and spectacularly lost all of its matches before promptly vanishing into thin air.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/nov/…
Humanitarian: Press freedom in SL is less than perfect. No argument. But then a lot of SL society is less than perfect and now that the war is over, will slowly improve with time.
As for you accusing me of being a racist, I defy you to point out a single instance of my 'racism'. i.e. where I've favoured one group of people over another on the account of their skin colour, ethnicity or religion. Detecting and pointing out Eelamists is not racist.
Your comments consistently exhibit concern for Tamil civilians only, to the exclusion of other sectors of SL society. What do you think that makes you? p.s. Don't forget to protest about 'Relocation Genocide'.
Dear Jim,
Here’s the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
“Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union.“
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be ‘completely independent from government, corporate or national interests.” That’s a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My ‘research’ took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI’s position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
De-mining: I presume by your statement “we are not saying that they should be returned to any areas that are unsafe and haven’t been first properly de-mined.” that you agree with the SL govt’s position the civilians should be kept away from their original homes until de-mining is complete.
If we follow your reasoning of allowing complete freedom of movement which logically will include free access to their former homes before de-mining is completed…. more Jaipur Legs in Northern Sri Lanka. My disagreement with you (well, not you personally) was that security, de-mining and screening took priority over everything else. In the long run, those who would benefit the most would be the IDPs.
Aid Agencies: your original piece says “…and to allow aid agencies full access to the camps.” To an uninformed reader, this implies that no aid agencies are present in the camps and/or are being prevented access. The SL govt is well known for being economical with the the truth. I’m surprised to find AI following their lead! 🙂
Finally, more bad news from SL for the Int’l HR circus.
* All Jaffna IDPs resettled, focus shifts to Vanni West
* Restrictions on public transport, lorries lifted
* Private buses etc await approval
* Security checks on A9 relaxed
http://www.island.lk/2009/11/21/news9.html
No doubt our resident Eelamists will deny this all and instead claim this as ‘Relocation Genocide’. If I continue to be censored, you can simply let the Eelamists add more ‘genocide’ URLs.
p.s. Take a break from worrying about SL and watch probably the best film to come from SL in the last 20 years. It’s called ‘Machan’. A fictionalisation of the true tale of the fake Sri Lankan national handball team that tricked its way into a tournament in Germany, and spectacularly lost all of its matches before promptly vanishing into thin air.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/nov/19/machan-film
Humanitarian: Press freedom in SL is less than perfect. No argument. But then a lot of SL society is less than perfect and now that the war is over, will slowly improve with time.
As for you accusing me of being a racist, I defy you to point out a single instance of my ‘racism’. i.e. where I’ve favoured one group of people over another on the account of their skin colour, ethnicity or religion. Detecting and pointing out Eelamists is not racist.
Your comments consistently exhibit concern for Tamil civilians only, to the exclusion of other sectors of SL society. What do you think that makes you? p.s. Don’t forget to protest about ‘Relocation Genocide’.
IDPs were lived in their homes until occuping forces invade tamil area, how come the vast vanni area has mine as per sri lanka propaganda. SLA knows which area has mines, why they are not letting people to go their homes in vast vanni main land. http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
since two war criminals may contest the presidental election next year, they may partially open some camps, but IDPs should be free, no more ethnic cleansing, in east around 35 resettled IDPs were abducted, reported to HR
Shameful truth exposed by sinhala media on IDPs, eventually truth will come http://www.lakbimanews.lk/archvi/lakbimanews_09_1…
IDPs were lived in their homes until occuping forces invade tamil area, how come the vast vanni area has mine as per sri lanka propaganda. SLA knows which area has mines, why they are not letting people to go their homes in vast vanni main land. http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
since two war criminals may contest the presidental election next year, they may partially open some camps, but IDPs should be free, no more ethnic cleansing, in east around 35 resettled IDPs were abducted, reported to HR
It's funny. I came here to see if you people are still deliberately misrepresenting the truth and you are!
First of all there never were 300,000 IDPs from this recent conflict. I'm not sure where Humaitarian Human or whatever is pulling that number from.. probably his a… People interested in actual facts know that there were about 282.000 IDPs in camps.
And undeniably the number has been reduced to 130,000 or so which the UN has backed up — they also verify the resettlement. Unlike Amnesty International or Washington Post they actually have people in Sri Lanka.
So does Groundviews and they verify the resettlement.
Some angry ranter posted this link as "evidence" that resettlement is not occuring: http://www.groundviews.org/2009/11/18/180-days-af…
From actually reading the article though I can see that people have been settled in Thunukkai according to Groundviews (not an ally of the Sri Lankan government):
"When we visited Thunukkai there were 1,200 families that have been resettled and they have been given Rs. 5,000 cash and dry ration for a few months."
"In Musali 651 Tamil families and over 700 Muslim families have returned"
"Adampan is yet another new resettlement area in the North of mainland Mannar."
Nowhere in this article does it mention restrictive transit sites as been where these people have been moved to.
Of course, they've lost relatives and family members who were part of the LTTE have been arrested and they don't have good facilities to live in, but this is to be expected in the aftermath of a war. Is the Sri Lankan government supposed to cram sugar down their throats and build them mansions? They are free and that's it.
Rohan, what truth — that the IDP camps don't have great facilities? No one is denying this not even the Sri Lankan government. Don't try to claim this as some sort of coverup when it's not been covered up by the government.
And from December 1st they are to be opened completely..
Shameful truth exposed by sinhala media on IDPs, eventually truth will come http://www.lakbimanews.lk/archvi/lakbimanews_09_1…
It's funny. I came here to see if you people are still deliberately misrepresenting the truth and you are!
First of all there never were 300,000 IDPs from this recent conflict. I'm not sure where Humaitarian Human or whatever is pulling that number from.. probably his a… People interested in actual facts know that there were about 282.000 IDPs in camps.
And undeniably the number has been reduced to 130,000 or so which the UN has backed up — they also verify the resettlement. Unlike Amnesty International or Washington Post they actually have people in Sri Lanka.
So does Groundviews and they verify the resettlement.
Some angry ranter posted this link as "evidence" that resettlement is not occuring: http://www.groundviews.org/2009/11/18/180-days-af…
From actually reading the article though I can see that people have been settled in Thunukkai according to Groundviews (not an ally of the Sri Lankan government):
"When we visited Thunukkai there were 1,200 families that have been resettled and they have been given Rs. 5,000 cash and dry ration for a few months."
"In Musali 651 Tamil families and over 700 Muslim families have returned"
"Adampan is yet another new resettlement area in the North of mainland Mannar."
Nowhere in this article does it mention restrictive transit sites as been where these people have been moved to.
Of course, they've lost relatives and family members who were part of the LTTE have been arrested and they don't have good facilities to live in, but this is to be expected in the aftermath of a war. Is the Sri Lankan government supposed to cram sugar down their throats and build them mansions? They are free and that's it.
Rohan, what truth — that the IDP camps don't have great facilities? No one is denying this not even the Sri Lankan government. Don't try to claim this as some sort of coverup when it's not been covered up by the government.
And from December 1st they are to be opened completely..
Racism is speaking your mind and saying that the IDPS are actually being settled ( going by UN reports) ? You all argue for free speech but I guess we don't get any coz if we disagree with you we're all racist. Sit tight in London and Toronto. You'r long eyesight will reveal the true situation in Sri Lanka better than what the United Nations or Groundviews who are actually on the island can..
PT,
My statements on racist mindset were for Mr.Mango – if you have read his earlier statements on this forum you will realize the Sinhala chauvinism abounding in his opinions. If you are not Mr.Mango or a Mango supporter, I urge you to read all his thoughts and "contributions" to this forum before coming to any conclusion.
First of all, this number of 300,000 was mentioned by your foreign minister himself in a interview to BBC when BBC itself was "assuming the numbers to be in the order of 200,000", way back in the month of June. So please check the old interview video on BBC. Anyways even going by the number of 280,000, it is a huge number.
Secondly the Groundviews article link was given to show the plight of sent back Tamils – some were in camps, some had lost everything and literally on the streets and some were still being abducted (the woman in the bus).
Yes, agreed the number has come down somewhat (people in transit camps still dont have freedom of movement) due to international pressure, organizations like AI, economic issues like GSP+ and more importantly the pending elections given that the Tamils vote has suddenly become important in a election to choose between two hardcore Sinhala chauvinists. But the next big issue is these people rebuilding their lives and the government giving them an opportunity to do so – that is not happening at all. Also please remember that there is a whopping 150,000 people who need to be released.
So the SL government is still guilty of keeping these people imprisoned for so long and denying them the basic human rights to live. I think it is high time the government plays a positive role in helping them rebuild their lives.
IDPs were lived in their homes until occuping forces invade tamil area, how come the vast vanni area has mine as per sri lanka propaganda. SLA knows which area has mines, why they are not letting people to go their homes in vast vanni main land.
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=30646
since two war criminals may contest the presidental election next year, they may partially open some camps, but IDPs should be free, no more ethnic cleansing, in east around 35 resettled IDPs were abducted, reported to HR
Shameful truth exposed by sinhala media on IDPs, eventually truth will come
http://www.lakbimanews.lk/archvi/lakbimanews_09_11_22/columns/col4.htm
It’s funny. I came here to see if you people are still deliberately misrepresenting the truth and you are!
First of all there never were 300,000 IDPs from this recent conflict. I’m not sure where Humaitarian Human or whatever is pulling that number from.. probably his a… People interested in actual facts know that there were about 282.000 IDPs in camps.
And undeniably the number has been reduced to 130,000 or so which the UN has backed up — they also verify the resettlement. Unlike Amnesty International or Washington Post they actually have people in Sri Lanka.
So does Groundviews and they verify the resettlement.
Some angry ranter posted this link as “evidence” that resettlement is not occuring:
http://www.groundviews.org/2009/11/18/180-days-after-end-of-war-the-much-anticipated-return-of-idps-an-eyewitness-account/
From actually reading the article though I can see that people have been settled in Thunukkai according to Groundviews (not an ally of the Sri Lankan government):
“When we visited Thunukkai there were 1,200 families that have been resettled and they have been given Rs. 5,000 cash and dry ration for a few months.”
“In Musali 651 Tamil families and over 700 Muslim families have returned”
“Adampan is yet another new resettlement area in the North of mainland Mannar.”
Nowhere in this article does it mention restrictive transit sites as been where these people have been moved to.
Of course, they’ve lost relatives and family members who were part of the LTTE have been arrested and they don’t have good facilities to live in, but this is to be expected in the aftermath of a war. Is the Sri Lankan government supposed to cram sugar down their throats and build them mansions? They are free and that’s it.
Rohan, what truth — that the IDP camps don’t have great facilities? No one is denying this not even the Sri Lankan government. Don’t try to claim this as some sort of coverup when it’s not been covered up by the government.
And from December 1st they are to be opened completely..
Racism is speaking your mind and saying that the IDPS are actually being settled ( going by UN reports) ? You all argue for free speech but I guess we don’t get any coz if we disagree with you we’re all racist. Sit tight in London and Toronto. You’r long eyesight will reveal the true situation in Sri Lanka better than what the United Nations or Groundviews who are actually on the island can..
PT,
My statements on racist mindset were for Mr.Mango – if you have read his earlier statements on this forum you will realize the Sinhala chauvinism abounding in his opinions. If you are not Mr.Mango or a Mango supporter, I urge you to read all his thoughts and “contributions” to this forum before coming to any conclusion.
First of all, this number of 300,000 was mentioned by your foreign minister himself in a interview to BBC when BBC itself was “assuming the numbers to be in the order of 200,000”, way back in the month of June. So please check the old interview video on BBC. Anyways even going by the number of 280,000, it is a huge number.
Secondly the Groundviews article link was given to show the plight of sent back Tamils – some were in camps, some had lost everything and literally on the streets and some were still being abducted (the woman in the bus).
Yes, agreed the number has come down somewhat (people in transit camps still dont have freedom of movement) due to international pressure, organizations like AI, economic issues like GSP+ and more importantly the pending elections given that the Tamils vote has suddenly become important in a election to choose between two hardcore Sinhala chauvinists. But the next big issue is these people rebuilding their lives and the government giving them an opportunity to do so – that is not happening at all. Also please remember that there is a whopping 150,000 people who need to be released.
So the SL government is still guilty of keeping these people imprisoned for so long and denying them the basic human rights to live. I think it is high time the government plays a positive role in helping them rebuild their lives.
The situation facing the IDPs resettled is not very good I agree but we should try to help them out by providing goods rather than trying to indict the Sri Lankan government which doesn't seem possible right now anyway.
The Sri Lankan government has said they are opening the camps completely on December 1st. And I think there are huge problems with just opening the camps because the people cannot simply go back to their former villages – these need to be rebuilt and stuff.. A lot of people are expressing concern after this announcement because if the camps were simply opened the people would have nowhere to go and will not have proper facilities: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeq…
So you see there are problems with jsut opening the camps and letting the IDPs roam freely over the war scarred landscape.
The government has done what it could for the IDPs I think. They've been provided money and goods on resettlement, bus services have been restarted, etc.
I think a positive outlook is best in this situation.
The situation facing the IDPs resettled is not very good I agree but we should try to help them out by providing goods rather than trying to indict the Sri Lankan government which doesn't seem possible right now anyway.
The Sri Lankan government has said they are opening the camps completely on December 1st. And I think there are huge problems with just opening the camps because the people cannot simply go back to their former villages – these need to be rebuilt and stuff.. A lot of people are expressing concern after this announcement because if the camps were simply opened the people would have nowhere to go and will not have proper facilities: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeq…
So you see there are problems with jsut opening the camps and letting the IDPs roam freely over the war scarred landscape.
The government has done what it could for the IDPs I think. They've been provided money and goods on resettlement, bus services have been restarted, etc.
I think a positive outlook is best in this situation.
Yesterday's announcment by the Sri Lankan government about the restrictions being lifted on the IDPs' freedom of movement is a welcome development. However, I still have some concerns:
1. The article on the Sri Lankan government's news website (available at http://www.news.lk/index.php?option=com_content&a… refers to the IDPs being able, as of Dec. 1, to "freely move to any part of the region." I presume that means the northern region in which the camps are located, but I don't know that for certain. Will the civlians be allowed to move to any part of the country, other than those areas which still need to be de-mined? If not, why not? I hope this announcement isn't just enlarging the area in which the civilians are confined, from the camps to the region. They should be entitled to live anywhere in the country, outside areas which still need to be made safe.
2. I also don't know whether the announcement means the civilians would be free to stay in the camps if that's their desire. I'd certainly hope they would be. AI has never asked that the civilians be kicked out of the camps if they would prefer to stay there, just that the civilians be free to choose where to live while waiting for their villages to be thoroughly cleared of mines and other ordnance.
3. I hope the announcement will actually be implemented as of Dec. 1. Since it's only about a week away, we'll see shortly.
Yesterday's announcment by the Sri Lankan government about the restrictions being lifted on the IDPs' freedom of movement is a welcome development. However, I still have some concerns:
1. The article on the Sri Lankan government's news website (available at http://www.news.lk/index.php?option=com_content&a… refers to the IDPs being able, as of Dec. 1, to "freely move to any part of the region." I presume that means the northern region in which the camps are located, but I don't know that for certain. Will the civlians be allowed to move to any part of the country, other than those areas which still need to be de-mined? If not, why not? I hope this announcement isn't just enlarging the area in which the civilians are confined, from the camps to the region. They should be entitled to live anywhere in the country, outside areas which still need to be made safe.
2. I also don't know whether the announcement means the civilians would be free to stay in the camps if that's their desire. I'd certainly hope they would be. AI has never asked that the civilians be kicked out of the camps if they would prefer to stay there, just that the civilians be free to choose where to live while waiting for their villages to be thoroughly cleared of mines and other ordnance.
3. I hope the announcement will actually be implemented as of Dec. 1. Since it's only about a week away, we'll see shortly.
The situation facing the IDPs resettled is not very good I agree but we should try to help them out by providing goods rather than trying to indict the Sri Lankan government which doesn’t seem possible right now anyway.
The Sri Lankan government has said they are opening the camps completely on December 1st. And I think there are huge problems with just opening the camps because the people cannot simply go back to their former villages – these need to be rebuilt and stuff.. A lot of people are expressing concern after this announcement because if the camps were simply opened the people would have nowhere to go and will not have proper facilities: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jdBc3YQ-RV1QL1e98JTBc3sqVJlg
So you see there are problems with jsut opening the camps and letting the IDPs roam freely over the war scarred landscape.
The government has done what it could for the IDPs I think. They’ve been provided money and goods on resettlement, bus services have been restarted, etc.
I think a positive outlook is best in this situation.
Yesterday’s announcment by the Sri Lankan government about the restrictions being lifted on the IDPs’ freedom of movement is a welcome development. However, I still have some concerns:
1. The article on the Sri Lankan government’s news website (available at http://www.news.lk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12457&Itemid=44) refers to the IDPs being able, as of Dec. 1, to “freely move to any part of the region.” I presume that means the northern region in which the camps are located, but I don’t know that for certain. Will the civlians be allowed to move to any part of the country, other than those areas which still need to be de-mined? If not, why not? I hope this announcement isn’t just enlarging the area in which the civilians are confined, from the camps to the region. They should be entitled to live anywhere in the country, outside areas which still need to be made safe.
2. I also don’t know whether the announcement means the civilians would be free to stay in the camps if that’s their desire. I’d certainly hope they would be. AI has never asked that the civilians be kicked out of the camps if they would prefer to stay there, just that the civilians be free to choose where to live while waiting for their villages to be thoroughly cleared of mines and other ordnance.
3. I hope the announcement will actually be implemented as of Dec. 1. Since it’s only about a week away, we’ll see shortly.
As a further update to my comment above, I've looked at some more websites:
1. The official announcement from the Sri Lanka government at http://www.priu.gov.lk/news_update/Current_Affair… says that the IDPs will have "total freedom of movement" from Dec. 1 on; there's no reference in that announcement as to whether there's any geographical restrictions on their movement.
2. The article in today's Sunday Observer, a Sri Lankan paper (at http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2009/11/22/new01.asp… quotes Senior Presidential Advisor Basil Rajapaksa as saying that the IDPs could go wherever they wish and could stay at the camps if they so desire.
3. An article on the BBC website (at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8371820.stm… quotes Mr. Rajapaksa as saying that the IDPs would be free to leave the camps for a day or two at a time, but not permanently.
I hope the Sunday Observer article is accurate, and not the BBC article or the earlier government announcement referred to in my earlier comment.
As a further update to my comment above, I've looked at some more websites:
1. The official announcement from the Sri Lanka government at http://www.priu.gov.lk/news_update/Current_Affair… says that the IDPs will have "total freedom of movement" from Dec. 1 on; there's no reference in that announcement as to whether there's any geographical restrictions on their movement.
2. The article in today's Sunday Observer, a Sri Lankan paper (at http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2009/11/22/new01.asp… quotes Senior Presidential Advisor Basil Rajapaksa as saying that the IDPs could go wherever they wish and could stay at the camps if they so desire.
3. An article on the BBC website (at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8371820.stm… quotes Mr. Rajapaksa as saying that the IDPs would be free to leave the camps for a day or two at a time, but not permanently.
I hope the Sunday Observer article is accurate, and not the BBC article or the earlier government announcement referred to in my earlier comment.
As a further update to my comment above, I’ve looked at some more websites:
1. The official announcement from the Sri Lanka government at http://www.priu.gov.lk/news_update/Current_Affairs/ca200911/20091121freedom_of_movement_IDPs.htm says that the IDPs will have “total freedom of movement” from Dec. 1 on; there’s no reference in that announcement as to whether there’s any geographical restrictions on their movement.
2. The article in today’s Sunday Observer, a Sri Lankan paper (at http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2009/11/22/new01.asp) quotes Senior Presidential Advisor Basil Rajapaksa as saying that the IDPs could go wherever they wish and could stay at the camps if they so desire.
3. An article on the BBC website (at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8371820.stm) quotes Mr. Rajapaksa as saying that the IDPs would be free to leave the camps for a day or two at a time, but not permanently.
I hope the Sunday Observer article is accurate, and not the BBC article or the earlier government announcement referred to in my earlier comment.
Quite astonishing that some of you still look at the situation in a crooked way even after a responsible democratic government has stated that the issue will be sorted in a given period of time. Either it is time for people to start wearing proper spectacles (Eye Glasses in American Terms) or get their brains checked or look at the reason behind their existence as a whole.
Mango – Good to hear from you again – sad that I will never get a chance to meet you or get to know you in person.
I actually wait for the day that AI would come up with those t-shirts… Let's see how they are going to react when a few loose their limbs. It would be another Vietnam all over again – sadly, I intend to visit these areas too and hope that I would not have to get an artificial limb fixed on to me…
Some one told me that Truth hurts – Ditto – exactly what I say – the more the government of SL try to help the Innocent Victims of Terrorism, it hurts the LTTE Terrorist supporters… We are of course smiling – cause we are free – only thing we can do is invite those sorry souls to join us…
Pongu has made a very valid point here – supporting the government in re-settlement will help more than trying to disrupt the effort (We call this putting Buckets) Also the GSP+ situation that all the Terrorist supporters were dying hard to achieve – Sorry again – intelligent beings do understand what a legally elected government is trying to do and are supporting it wholeheartedly.
Rohan – Exactly – they were living peacefully until the Terrorists started claiming for a own land and screwed up their innocent minds and lives. As for the Landmines that you are worried of, why not ask the few left LTTE Terrorists to show the SL army where they have planted those land mines ?? The Sl army will ensure all are removed in double quick time before the IDP's are re-settled..
Jim – about granting unbiased access to the camps – It happened till say 2 years ago – and what happened to these unbiased agents ????? As you might know your "Unbiased Entities" prove their Unbiasness by helping a ruthless terrorist organization build air crafts, submarines and also worked as the mechanism of these Blood Suckers get Arms and ammunition that killed many a thousands of innocent civilians and world recognized diplomats. Now, for me, this gives a totally new meaning for the word "Unbiased" – it is this kind of comments that makes me sick and doubt your intentions. When discussing a serious issue as this, I think any responsible organization should carry out more ground work studies on reasoning out than shouting out without being sensible. I have mentioned many times about "looking at a bigger picture" and also pleaded to dig deeper. I don't see it happening from your end. UN is there – don't you consider UN to be " Unbiased" – R U questioning UN's integrity ?? Do U think that it is the Norwegian NGO's that are the only unbiased organizations int he whole world ????? Why not support the cause for a change and see whether the out come is what is mentioned in your bible of HR ??
Sri Lanka's announcment regard to IDP's freedom of movement, only for international media, over six decades of histroy of state terror proved that. Jaffna is open prision for over 1/2 million Tamils, eventhough it was under state terror control over long time. Now is election time, war criminals are going to fight each other to come to power, now trying to get some vote from Tamils, this is the drama on the stage right now, after the election same old story for Tamils. Ethinic cleansing never end, unless strong International community involvement.
It is really interesting to see "AI Bashing" about AI being in the pay of western governments. AI has always condemned all sides to the conflict in Sri Lanka. Now there is only one side left, and that side the Sri Lankan government is keeping the civilians behind barbed wire including many children. All AI is saying is to treat these people as full citizens. Jim Pappa Aiya and friends quoting groundviews and bashing AI seem to have not got to the end of the groundviews blog.
"With many families not having their able men and women who have being either killed during the war (or before), or being forcibly taken and detained, return for these IDPs is not as pleasant as one would want to see, or usually believe. We also witnessed many families reduced to women, very young children and old people. Without any basic facilities (proper shelter, hospitals, transport, schools, drinking water, electricity and access to any form of livelihood activities) and basic right to freedom of movement, one has to wonder what it means to these IDPs to come back home."
These are the people the sri lankan government claimed to be "freeing" – freedom indeed!
Unfortunately, your sense of humor has over ridden your sense of sensibility.
If you read what we (my self, Mango and the others) have mentioned throughout these forums, we are totally FOR releasing the IDP's or any other innocent person for that matter – it only does not include releasing of Barbaric LTTE Terrorists which we strongly recommend to be rehabilitated or worse situation eliminated. At no point we mentioned to keep them under lock for ever.
We always say to look at the "BIGGER PICTURE" and support the GOSL to solve the issue where things cannot settle over night.
Quite astonishing that some of you still look at the situation in a crooked way even after a responsible democratic government has stated that the issue will be sorted in a given period of time. Either it is time for people to start wearing proper spectacles (Eye Glasses in American Terms) or get their brains checked or look at the reason behind their existence as a whole.
Mango – Good to hear from you again – sad that I will never get a chance to meet you or get to know you in person.
I actually wait for the day that AI would come up with those t-shirts… Let’s see how they are going to react when a few loose their limbs. It would be another Vietnam all over again – sadly, I intend to visit these areas too and hope that I would not have to get an artificial limb fixed on to me…
Some one told me that Truth hurts – Ditto – exactly what I say – the more the government of SL try to help the Innocent Victims of Terrorism, it hurts the LTTE Terrorist supporters… We are of course smiling – cause we are free – only thing we can do is invite those sorry souls to join us…
Pongu has made a very valid point here – supporting the government in re-settlement will help more than trying to disrupt the effort (We call this putting Buckets) Also the GSP+ situation that all the Terrorist supporters were dying hard to achieve – Sorry again – intelligent beings do understand what a legally elected government is trying to do and are supporting it wholeheartedly.
Rohan – Exactly – they were living peacefully until the Terrorists started claiming for a own land and screwed up their innocent minds and lives. As for the Landmines that you are worried of, why not ask the few left LTTE Terrorists to show the SL army where they have planted those land mines ?? The Sl army will ensure all are removed in double quick time before the IDP’s are re-settled..
Jim – about granting unbiased access to the camps – It happened till say 2 years ago – and what happened to these unbiased agents ????? As you might know your “Unbiased Entities” prove their Unbiasness by helping a ruthless terrorist organization build air crafts, submarines and also worked as the mechanism of these Blood Suckers get Arms and ammunition that killed many a thousands of innocent civilians and world recognized diplomats. Now, for me, this gives a totally new meaning for the word “Unbiased” – it is this kind of comments that makes me sick and doubt your intentions. When discussing a serious issue as this, I think any responsible organization should carry out more ground work studies on reasoning out than shouting out without being sensible. I have mentioned many times about “looking at a bigger picture” and also pleaded to dig deeper. I don’t see it happening from your end. UN is there – don’t you consider UN to be ” Unbiased” – R U questioning UN’s integrity ?? Do U think that it is the Norwegian NGO’s that are the only unbiased organizations int he whole world ????? Why not support the cause for a change and see whether the out come is what is mentioned in your bible of HR ??
Sri Lanka’s announcment regard to IDP’s freedom of movement, only for international media, over six decades of histroy of state terror proved that. Jaffna is open prision for over 1/2 million Tamils, eventhough it was under state terror control over long time. Now is election time, war criminals are going to fight each other to come to power, now trying to get some vote from Tamils, this is the drama on the stage right now, after the election same old story for Tamils. Ethinic cleansing never end, unless strong International community involvement.
The screening process is a farce. Those with relatives in the West paid to get out months ago, including senior LTTE cardres. It is those without resources who are still being detained.
Angel – Adding your sense of Humor to the column ?? 😀 😀 😀
It is really interesting to see “AI Bashing” about AI being in the pay of western governments. AI has always condemned all sides to the conflict in Sri Lanka. Now there is only one side left, and that side the Sri Lankan government is keeping the civilians behind barbed wire including many children. All AI is saying is to treat these people as full citizens. Jim Pappa Aiya and friends quoting groundviews and bashing AI seem to have not got to the end of the groundviews blog.
“With many families not having their able men and women who have being either killed during the war (or before), or being forcibly taken and detained, return for these IDPs is not as pleasant as one would want to see, or usually believe. We also witnessed many families reduced to women, very young children and old people. Without any basic facilities (proper shelter, hospitals, transport, schools, drinking water, electricity and access to any form of livelihood activities) and basic right to freedom of movement, one has to wonder what it means to these IDPs to come back home.”
These are the people the sri lankan government claimed to be “freeing” – freedom indeed!
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Nov. 22, 11:50 P.M., I'd suggest re-reading my paragraph (4) in my comment of Nov. 20, 8:11 P.M. There was no mention in my paragraph (4) about "unbiased access" so I honestly don't know what Jim Pappa's comment is referring to.
Unfortunately, your sense of humor has over ridden your sense of sensibility.
If you read what we (my self, Mango and the others) have mentioned throughout these forums, we are totally FOR releasing the IDP’s or any other innocent person for that matter – it only does not include releasing of Barbaric LTTE Terrorists which we strongly recommend to be rehabilitated or worse situation eliminated. At no point we mentioned to keep them under lock for ever.
We always say to look at the “BIGGER PICTURE” and support the GOSL to solve the issue where things cannot settle over night.
The screening process is a farce. Those with relatives in the West paid to get out months ago, including senior LTTE cardres. It is those without resources who are still being detained.
Angel – Adding your sense of Humor to the column ?? 😀 😀 😀
In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Nov. 22, 11:50 P.M., I’d suggest re-reading my paragraph (4) in my comment of Nov. 20, 8:11 P.M. There was no mention in my paragraph (4) about “unbiased access” so I honestly don’t know what Jim Pappa’s comment is referring to.
Release of IDPs is an election propaganda tatic, and news for international Media coverage only. These liers lie over 60 years now.
Release of IDPs is an election propaganda tatic, and news for international Media coverage only. These liers lie over 60 years now.
Amnesty International published a press release today welcoming the government's announcement and urging that the civilians receive the necessary assistance as they re-establish their homes – http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-release….
Amnesty International published a press release today welcoming the government's announcement and urging that the civilians receive the necessary assistance as they re-establish their homes – http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-release….
To Jim Pappa
You find it amusing that Tamils in Sri Lanka have to pay for their liberty?
Human trafficking at the Sri Lankan concentration camps is shocking. The Government started to look at IDPs as the ducks laying golden eggs.
Up to 20,000 IDPs have been ransomed by desperate relatives who are able and willing to pay thousands of rupees to secure their release, and have left the camps
Many, many reports have now emerged that money is being demanded in Sri Lanka for IDPs to be released and the soldiers are in the thick and thin of it.
This exposes so-called ‘screening’ of IDPs for what it is: a cover for a lucrative flesh trade, carried out with the collusion of elements in the government and armed forces that get a cut out of it.
It also explains why the camp authorities refused to release a one-year-old child to leave with its grandmother: since an infant could hardly be suspected of being a dreaded LTTE , the reason was surely that a payoff had not been paid.
In my opinion, that since a one year child cannot pay such money, then it has to be helplessly and hopelessly consigned to the concentration camps.
High morals in Sri Lanka it seems!? That is the last thing ever present there.
Devil in Angel's Costume !
To Jim Pappa
You find it amusing that Tamils in Sri Lanka have to pay for their liberty?
The whole country and all it's citizens were paying for the past 30 years for a unwarranted cause of Terrorist.. We still are paying and will keep paying in to the future for what we lost in the past 30 years… So don't blame anybody but the terrorists … !
Jim – I refer to the paragraph you mentioned – private conversation with people ???
Why in private ?? Hidden agendas ??
Pappa 30 years, Tamils lost their freedom in the hand of Racist Sinhala State Terror over 61 years back.
Rohan !
It never happened as you say. it is what you have been told to believe and you believe. Sorry about that. All people suffered in the hands of idiotic leaders, not a specific ethnic group – just that some of you have taken it to your advantage to make it a racial issue, just to satisfy your petty causes.
Amnesty International published a press release today welcoming the government’s announcement and urging that the civilians receive the necessary assistance as they re-establish their homes – http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/sri-lanka-promise-free-displaced-must-be-followed-concrete-action-200911.
To Jim Pappa
You find it amusing that Tamils in Sri Lanka have to pay for their liberty?
Human trafficking at the Sri Lankan concentration camps is shocking. The Government started to look at IDPs as the ducks laying golden eggs.
Up to 20,000 IDPs have been ransomed by desperate relatives who are able and willing to pay thousands of rupees to secure their release, and have left the camps
Many, many reports have now emerged that money is being demanded in Sri Lanka for IDPs to be released and the soldiers are in the thick and thin of it.
This exposes so-called ‘screening’ of IDPs for what it is: a cover for a lucrative flesh trade, carried out with the collusion of elements in the government and armed forces that get a cut out of it.
It also explains why the camp authorities refused to release a one-year-old child to leave with its grandmother: since an infant could hardly be suspected of being a dreaded LTTE , the reason was surely that a payoff had not been paid.
In my opinion, that since a one year child cannot pay such money, then it has to be helplessly and hopelessly consigned to the concentration camps.
High morals in Sri Lanka it seems!? That is the last thing ever present there.
Devil in Angel’s Costume !
To Jim Pappa
You find it amusing that Tamils in Sri Lanka have to pay for their liberty?
The whole country and all it’s citizens were paying for the past 30 years for a unwarranted cause of Terrorist.. We still are paying and will keep paying in to the future for what we lost in the past 30 years… So don’t blame anybody but the terrorists … !
Jim – I refer to the paragraph you mentioned – private conversation with people ???
Why in private ?? Hidden agendas ??
To Jim Pappa
So, it is the terrorist's fault that GOSL is corrupt?
And I am a devil for raising these questions?
Interesting analysis.
Pappa 30 years, Tamils lost their freedom in the hand of Racist Sinhala State Terror over 61 years back.
Rohan !
It never happened as you say. it is what you have been told to believe and you believe. Sorry about that. All people suffered in the hands of idiotic leaders, not a specific ethnic group – just that some of you have taken it to your advantage to make it a racial issue, just to satisfy your petty causes.
Devil !!
Tell me a government that is not corrupt ????
Who ever Sri Lankans in the IDP camps are paying for what the Terrorists did – Yes I say that !! it is the Terrorists Fault that all of us are paying more than what we ideally should !!
Any person who shares thoughts in line with Terrorists, I would call a Devil than an angel – Angels don't Plant Bombs to kill innocent people.
The Guardian of August 13, 1983, then revealed the murder of politician Selvarajah “Kuttimuni” Yogachandran and Ganeshanathan Jeganathan, a political writer, in a wider report about the Welikade prison massacres. The two men had been sentenced to death and were being held at the Welikade jail. They had previously announced that they wished to donate their eyes after their death, in the hope that they would be grafted on to Tamils who would see the birth of Eelam. The article went on to state that according to secondhand reports, the two men had been forced to kneel and their eyes gouged out with iron bars before they were killed. One version has it that Kuttimuni’s tongue was cut out by an attacker who drank the blood and cried: “I have drunk the blood of a Tiger”.
You forgot to add State in front of Terrorist.
State Terrorists! 1983
President of Sri Lanka July 2004:
"Sri Lankan State should come of age, look the truth in the face and make a national apology, first to all the victims of that day in Black July and then beyond them to the entire Nation."
Shall we wait another 21 years for the next apology?
Humorous !!
Shall we go back to where all this terrorism started and start with Piribakaran apologizing to the then Mayor of Jaffna "Mr. Doreiappa" ?? Oh – he can't do it – Prabha is dead ha ? Mmmmm.. can you on behalf on him ?? I mean after all, Mr. Doraiappa was a Tamil ha ?? Well, I wonder where the "State Terrorism" term came from ?? By Prabha Killing Mr. Doraiappa – Do U mean that Prbha was a government agent then ??? – U indeed have some humour in you !!
Also I wish to ask whether the person (as per You) who drank the blood of a Terrorist (Tigers in my books are Terrorists) was the president of the country or a renowned statement for it to be labeled a "State Terrorism Act" ?
I don't think that there would be a single person in this forum who would condemn what happened in 83. I am one who denounce it and done in this forum before. But that is exactly what the Terrorists wanted ha? To provoke the government and Hardcore Singhala groups to kill Tamils. It did happen once. You also look back and see that it never happened again – meaning, they learned that it was the wrong thing they did and that there is a difference between Tamils and terrorists. This is where the LTTE failed – they thought that Singhales will keep killing Tamils, which never happened again – So the Joke (Humour) was on Terrorists and not the government. Terrorists kept on lying, where as the government and the intelligent mass understood the lye and did what is necessary to eliminate TERRORISTS 🙂 !!
Now we can all laugh !!
spelling mistake in previous post – Statesman instead of statement – Auto correction does kill the little bit of language skills I have ! Apologies !!
In response to Jim Pappa's question in his comment of Nov. 23, 11:13 P.M., if aid agencies wish to determine whether the IDPs have any complaints about their treatment by the military controlling the camps or whether the IDPs are actually receiving the aid delivered by the agencies, it may be important to be able to have those discussions with the IDPs without the military monitoring those conversations.
To Jim Pappa
So, it is the terrorist’s fault that GOSL is corrupt?
And I am a devil for raising these questions?
Interesting analysis.
The press conference yesterday (see http://www.un.org/News/briefings/docs/2009/091123… by UN Under-Secretary General John Homes included the following:
"As to whether people would need a pass to leave the camps, he said details about the process were still being clarified, but he had not heard that they would need a pass. They would need to sign out, and if they came back, sign in again. They could go out for days at a time. They could perhaps leave altogether, which was an issue under discussion."
The last sentence of that paragraph is troubling. I hope it doesn't mean that the IDPs will actually have their freedom of movement restricted. We'll see what happens next week.
Devil !!
Tell me a government that is not corrupt ????
Who ever Sri Lankans in the IDP camps are paying for what the Terrorists did – Yes I say that !! it is the Terrorists Fault that all of us are paying more than what we ideally should !!
Any person who shares thoughts in line with Terrorists, I would call a Devil than an angel – Angels don’t Plant Bombs to kill innocent people.
The press conference yesterday (see http://www.un.org/News/briefings/docs/2009/091123… by UN Under-Secretary General John Homes included the following:
"As to whether people would need a pass to leave the camps, he said details about the process were still being clarified, but he had not heard that they would need a pass. They would need to sign out, and if they came back, sign in again. They could go out for days at a time. They could perhaps leave altogether, which was an issue under discussion."
The last sentence of that paragraph is troubling. I hope it doesn't mean that the IDPs will actually have their freedom of movement restricted. We'll see what happens next week.
The Guardian of August 13, 1983, then revealed the murder of politician Selvarajah “Kuttimuni” Yogachandran and Ganeshanathan Jeganathan, a political writer, in a wider report about the Welikade prison massacres. The two men had been sentenced to death and were being held at the Welikade jail. They had previously announced that they wished to donate their eyes after their death, in the hope that they would be grafted on to Tamils who would see the birth of Eelam. The article went on to state that according to secondhand reports, the two men had been forced to kneel and their eyes gouged out with iron bars before they were killed. One version has it that Kuttimuni’s tongue was cut out by an attacker who drank the blood and cried: “I have drunk the blood of a Tiger”.
You forgot to add State in front of Terrorist.
State Terrorists! 1983
President of Sri Lanka July 2004:
“Sri Lankan State should come of age, look the truth in the face and make a national apology, first to all the victims of that day in Black July and then beyond them to the entire Nation.”
Shall we wait another 21 years for the next apology?
Humorous !!
Shall we go back to where all this terrorism started and start with Piribakaran apologizing to the then Mayor of Jaffna “Mr. Doreiappa” ?? Oh – he can’t do it – Prabha is dead ha ? Mmmmm.. can you on behalf on him ?? I mean after all, Mr. Doraiappa was a Tamil ha ?? Well, I wonder where the “State Terrorism” term came from ?? By Prabha Killing Mr. Doraiappa – Do U mean that Prbha was a government agent then ??? – U indeed have some humour in you !!
Also I wish to ask whether the person (as per You) who drank the blood of a Terrorist (Tigers in my books are Terrorists) was the president of the country or a renowned statement for it to be labeled a “State Terrorism Act” ?
I don’t think that there would be a single person in this forum who would condemn what happened in 83. I am one who denounce it and done in this forum before. But that is exactly what the Terrorists wanted ha? To provoke the government and Hardcore Singhala groups to kill Tamils. It did happen once. You also look back and see that it never happened again – meaning, they learned that it was the wrong thing they did and that there is a difference between Tamils and terrorists. This is where the LTTE failed – they thought that Singhales will keep killing Tamils, which never happened again – So the Joke (Humour) was on Terrorists and not the government. Terrorists kept on lying, where as the government and the intelligent mass understood the lye and did what is necessary to eliminate TERRORISTS 🙂 !!
Now we can all laugh !!
spelling mistake in previous post – Statesman instead of statement – Auto correction does kill the little bit of language skills I have ! Apologies !!
In response to Jim Pappa’s question in his comment of Nov. 23, 11:13 P.M., if aid agencies wish to determine whether the IDPs have any complaints about their treatment by the military controlling the camps or whether the IDPs are actually receiving the aid delivered by the agencies, it may be important to be able to have those discussions with the IDPs without the military monitoring those conversations.
The press conference yesterday (see http://www.un.org/News/briefings/docs/2009/091123_Holmes.doc.htm), by UN Under-Secretary General John Homes included the following:
“As to whether people would need a pass to leave the camps, he said details about the process were still being clarified, but he had not heard that they would need a pass. They would need to sign out, and if they came back, sign in again. They could go out for days at a time. They could perhaps leave altogether, which was an issue under discussion.”
The last sentence of that paragraph is troubling. I hope it doesn’t mean that the IDPs will actually have their freedom of movement restricted. We’ll see what happens next week.
Jim – Any reason I don't see the posts made by Ognam & Elite cubical Drone ?? I get it on mail though.. Anyways, I thought that the content was quite relevant to the subject and also reply some of your queries. hence, I decided to paste them here – Hope it is OK with Moderators and you.
BTW, I understand why it's necessary for an independent observer to be at the camp. UN is already there – what I asked was that whether you feel that they are not independent enough !
Author: Elite Cubicle Drone
Comment:
Dear Jim,
Here's the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
"Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union."
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." That's a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My 'research' took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI's position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
De-mining: I presume by your statement "we are not saying that they should be returned to any areas that are unsafe and haven’t been first properly de-mined." that you agree with the SL govt's position the civilians should be kept away from their original homes until de-mining is complete.
If we follow your reasoning of allowing complete freedom of movement which logically will include free access to their former homes before de-mining is completed…. more Jaipur Legs in Northern Sri Lanka. My disagreement with you (well, not you personally) was that security, de-mining and screening took priority over everything else. In the long run, those who would benefit the most would be the IDPs.
Aid Agencies: your original piece says "…and to allow aid agencies full access to the camps." To an uninformed reader, this implies that no aid agencies are present in the camps and/or are being prevented access. The SL govt is well known for being economical with the the truth. I'm surprised to find AI following their lead! 🙂
Finally, more bad news from SL for the Int'l HR circus.
* All Jaffna IDPs resettled, focus shifts to Vanni West
* Restrictions on public transport, lorries lifted
* Private buses etc await approval
* Security checks on A9 relaxed
http://www.island.lk/2009/11/21/news9.html
No doubt our resident Eelamists will deny this all and instead claim this as 'Relocation Genocide'. If I continue to be censored, you can simply let the Eelamists add more 'genocide' URLs.
p.s. Take a break from worrying about SL and watch probably the best film to come from SL in the last 20 years. It's called 'Machan'. A fictionalisation of the true tale of the fake Sri Lankan national handball team that tricked its way into a tournament in Germany, and spectacularly lost all of its matches before promptly vanishing into thin air.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/nov/…
Humanitarian: Press freedom in SL is less than perfect. No argument. But then a lot of SL society is less than perfect and now that the war is over, will slowly improve with time.
As for you accusing me of being a racist, I defy you to point out a single instance of my 'racism'. i.e. where I've favoured one group of people over another on the account of their skin colour, ethnicity or religion. Detecting and pointing out Eelamists is not racist.
Your comments consistently exhibit concern for Tamil civilians only, to the exclusion of other sectors of SL society. What do you think that makes you? p.s. Don't forget to protest about 'Relocation Genocide'.
SLA's have been given free hand to do any thing on Tamils in sin lanka, Its propaganda pappu also given free hand to write anything here?
anyway that is upto the moderator.
HR statement "Sri Lanka: Free All Unlawfully Detained" http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/11/24/sri-lanka-f…
Only money can help to get released, but different rate for each person.
Jim – Any reason I don't see the posts made by Ognam & Elite cubical Drone ?? I get it on mail though.. Anyways, I thought that the content was quite relevant to the subject and also reply some of your queries. hence, I decided to paste them here – Hope it is OK with Moderators and you.
BTW, I understand why it's necessary for an independent observer to be at the camp. UN is already there – what I asked was that whether you feel that they are not independent enough !
Author: Elite Cubicle Drone
Comment:
Dear Jim,
Here's the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
"Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union."
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be 'completely independent from government, corporate or national interests." That's a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My 'research' took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI's position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
De-mining: I presume by your statement "we are not saying that they should be returned to any areas that are unsafe and haven’t been first properly de-mined." that you agree with the SL govt's position the civilians should be kept away from their original homes until de-mining is complete.
If we follow your reasoning of allowing complete freedom of movement which logically will include free access to their former homes before de-mining is completed…. more Jaipur Legs in Northern Sri Lanka. My disagreement with you (well, not you personally) was that security, de-mining and screening took priority over everything else. In the long run, those who would benefit the most would be the IDPs.
Aid Agencies: your original piece says "…and to allow aid agencies full access to the camps." To an uninformed reader, this implies that no aid agencies are present in the camps and/or are being prevented access. The SL govt is well known for being economical with the the truth. I'm surprised to find AI following their lead! 🙂
Finally, more bad news from SL for the Int'l HR circus.
* All Jaffna IDPs resettled, focus shifts to Vanni West
* Restrictions on public transport, lorries lifted
* Private buses etc await approval
* Security checks on A9 relaxed
http://www.island.lk/2009/11/21/news9.html
No doubt our resident Eelamists will deny this all and instead claim this as 'Relocation Genocide'. If I continue to be censored, you can simply let the Eelamists add more 'genocide' URLs.
p.s. Take a break from worrying about SL and watch probably the best film to come from SL in the last 20 years. It's called 'Machan'. A fictionalisation of the true tale of the fake Sri Lankan national handball team that tricked its way into a tournament in Germany, and spectacularly lost all of its matches before promptly vanishing into thin air.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/nov/…
Humanitarian: Press freedom in SL is less than perfect. No argument. But then a lot of SL society is less than perfect and now that the war is over, will slowly improve with time.
As for you accusing me of being a racist, I defy you to point out a single instance of my 'racism'. i.e. where I've favoured one group of people over another on the account of their skin colour, ethnicity or religion. Detecting and pointing out Eelamists is not racist.
Your comments consistently exhibit concern for Tamil civilians only, to the exclusion of other sectors of SL society. What do you think that makes you? p.s. Don't forget to protest about 'Relocation Genocide'.
Ooops – Now I am being Moderated ?? or is it the links ?
Wish to have the following from the post that is to be moderated 🙂 !
I understand why it’s necessary for an independent observer to be at the camp. UN is already there – what I asked was that whether you feel that they are not independent enough !
SLA's have been given free hand to do any thing on Tamils in sin lanka, Its propaganda pappu also given free hand to write anything here?
anyway that is upto the moderator.
HR statement "Sri Lanka: Free All Unlawfully Detained" http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/11/24/sri-lanka-f…
Only money can help to get released, but different rate for each person.
Interesting Comment Rohan !!
But as a logical thinker, I feel that you have done a massive grammatical mistake in what you have written. Let me correct it for you.
SLA is given a free hand to do anything to LTTE to save Tamils from Terrorism in Sri Lanka. It's peaceful citizens ensure that they write anything against those Terrorist hands who intend to disturb the peace in the country by spreading false propaganda.
It indeed is up to the moderator to take necessary actions – specially against the cut and paste guys and the Link monsters who do nothing but post links on site.
Jim – Any reason I don’t see the posts made by Ognam & Elite cubical Drone ?? I get it on mail though.. Anyways, I thought that the content was quite relevant to the subject and also reply some of your queries. hence, I decided to paste them here – Hope it is OK with Moderators and you.
BTW, I understand why it’s necessary for an independent observer to be at the camp. UN is already there – what I asked was that whether you feel that they are not independent enough !
Author: Elite Cubicle Drone
Comment:
Dear Jim,
Here’s the statement from your own website. http://tinyurl.com/yewaf8s
“Sources of funding for human rights work include donations by:
* individuals
* national and international non-governmental organisations (NGOs)
* national and foreign government bodies such as overseas development funds
* international governmental organisations such as the European Union.“
Yet, AI disingenuously claim to be ‘completely independent from government, corporate or national interests.” That’s a fail on all three self-declared criteria. My ‘research’ took about 30 secs and no senior AI staff were inconvenienced or hurt during the information extraction process.
The EU is funded by the taxpayers of European member states, e.g. UK, France, Germany etc.
Ergo, AI receives funding from Western governments. AI’s position is no different to the US Republican Party accepting donations from billionaires & multinational corporations whilst simultaneously claiming that these donors will be unable to influence its policies.
De-mining: I presume by your statement “we are not saying that they should be returned to any areas that are unsafe and haven’t been first properly de-mined.” that you agree with the SL govt’s position the civilians should be kept away from their original homes until de-mining is complete.
If we follow your reasoning of allowing complete freedom of movement which logically will include free access to their former homes before de-mining is completed…. more Jaipur Legs in Northern Sri Lanka. My disagreement with you (well, not you personally) was that security, de-mining and screening took priority over everything else. In the long run, those who would benefit the most would be the IDPs.
Aid Agencies: your original piece says “…and to allow aid agencies full access to the camps.” To an uninformed reader, this implies that no aid agencies are present in the camps and/or are being prevented access. The SL govt is well known for being economical with the the truth. I’m surprised to find AI following their lead! 🙂
Finally, more bad news from SL for the Int’l HR circus.
* All Jaffna IDPs resettled, focus shifts to Vanni West
* Restrictions on public transport, lorries lifted
* Private buses etc await approval
* Security checks on A9 relaxed
http://www.island.lk/2009/11/21/news9.html
No doubt our resident Eelamists will deny this all and instead claim this as ‘Relocation Genocide’. If I continue to be censored, you can simply let the Eelamists add more ‘genocide’ URLs.
p.s. Take a break from worrying about SL and watch probably the best film to come from SL in the last 20 years. It’s called ‘Machan’. A fictionalisation of the true tale of the fake Sri Lankan national handball team that tricked its way into a tournament in Germany, and spectacularly lost all of its matches before promptly vanishing into thin air.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/nov/19/machan-film
Humanitarian: Press freedom in SL is less than perfect. No argument. But then a lot of SL society is less than perfect and now that the war is over, will slowly improve with time.
As for you accusing me of being a racist, I defy you to point out a single instance of my ‘racism’. i.e. where I’ve favoured one group of people over another on the account of their skin colour, ethnicity or religion. Detecting and pointing out Eelamists is not racist.
Your comments consistently exhibit concern for Tamil civilians only, to the exclusion of other sectors of SL society. What do you think that makes you? p.s. Don’t forget to protest about ‘Relocation Genocide’.
Ooops – Now I am being Moderated ?? or is it the links ?
Wish to have the following from the post that is to be moderated 🙂 !
I understand why it’s necessary for an independent observer to be at the camp. UN is already there – what I asked was that whether you feel that they are not independent enough !
SLA’s have been given free hand to do any thing on Tamils in sin lanka, Its propaganda pappu also given free hand to write anything here?
anyway that is upto the moderator.
HR statement “Sri Lanka: Free All Unlawfully Detained”
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/11/24/sri-lanka-free-all-unlawfully-detained
Only money can help to get released, but different rate for each person.
Interesting Comment Rohan !!
But as a logical thinker, I feel that you have done a massive grammatical mistake in what you have written. Let me correct it for you.
SLA is given a free hand to do anything to LTTE to save Tamils from Terrorism in Sri Lanka. It’s peaceful citizens ensure that they write anything against those Terrorist hands who intend to disturb the peace in the country by spreading false propaganda.
It indeed is up to the moderator to take necessary actions – specially against the cut and paste guys and the Link monsters who do nothing but post links on site.
jim pappaaaa
ltte was a symptom of chauvinist and terror state of sin hell a, u are the symptom of the same sin hell a Propaganda bonus fund!!!
How do the armed forces of sin hell a consist entirely of Sinhalese babarians screen IDPs?
This is the way http://tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&artid=3…
jim pappaaaa
ltte was a symptom of chauvinist and terror state of sin hell a, u are the symptom of the same sin hell a Propaganda bonus fund!!!
How do the armed forces of sin hell a consist entirely of Sinhalese babarians screen IDPs?
This is the way http://tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&artid=3…
jim pappaaaa
ltte was a symptom of chauvinist and terror state of sin hell a, u are the symptom of the same sin hell a Propaganda bonus fund!!!
How do the armed forces of sin hell a consist entirely of Sinhalese babarians screen IDPs?
This is the way
http://tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&artid=30672
Dear You are in HELL !!
LTTE was the result of a Lunatic who also had a mindset of a Brutal Terrorist – basically a very sick Man, who unfortunately had followers – there had been a few in the history of the world – recent people are those who formed their own religions and killed people saying the world would end.
You use the people who in the forces – who else do U want to employee to screen them ?? the Salvation Army ?? Actually, the screening happens when former LTTE carders who are now with the government would identify the hard core Terrorists. So ideally the screening is done by majority Tamils 🙂 🙂 !!
not salvation, babarian. They were screening even dead women
Rohan,
I agree with you. They did not even let innocent Children be – remember, they attacked border villages and killed Thousands of civilian Sri Lankans of all ethnic groups and video the attacks as well as published pictures some time back – Even during the final battle, they killed the innocent civilians and some as you rightly say were torn off their cloths. Luckily we have evidence now as the Sri Lankan forces managed to capture this brutality on Camera.
But now all is over – Sri Lanka is free from Terrorism and everyone from all religious and racial groups can live in peace.
Best regards,
Jim P
Dear You are in HELL !!
LTTE was the result of a Lunatic who also had a mindset of a Brutal Terrorist – basically a very sick Man, who unfortunately had followers – there had been a few in the history of the world – recent people are those who formed their own religions and killed people saying the world would end.
You use the people who in the forces – who else do U want to employee to screen them ?? the Salvation Army ?? Actually, the screening happens when former LTTE carders who are now with the government would identify the hard core Terrorists. So ideally the screening is done by majority Tamils 🙂 🙂 !!
not salvation, babarian. They were screening even dead women
Rohan,
I agree with you. They did not even let innocent Children be – remember, they attacked border villages and killed Thousands of civilian Sri Lankans of all ethnic groups and video the attacks as well as published pictures some time back – Even during the final battle, they killed the innocent civilians and some as you rightly say were torn off their cloths. Luckily we have evidence now as the Sri Lankan forces managed to capture this brutality on Camera.
But now all is over – Sri Lanka is free from Terrorism and everyone from all religious and racial groups can live in peace.
Best regards,
Jim P
jim pappaaaa
the camera u talk, is US saterlite camera,is that right? Give those vedio to media, don't forget to give a copy to sarath fonsega.
Do you thnk these war criminals sleep peace after killing over 50,000 Tamils? 1000s of evidents already all over the world.I know your propaganda gang modifying those evidents with your own agenda. dont pool the world, spend your bonus package.
jim pappaaaa
the camera u talk, is US saterlite camera,is that right? Give those vedio to media, don’t forget to give a copy to sarath fonsega.
Do you thnk these war criminals sleep peace after killing over 50,000 Tamils? 1000s of evidents already all over the world.I know your propaganda gang modifying those evidents with your own agenda. dont pool the world, spend your bonus package.
Hello Hell !!
I did not talk of the Satellite Camera – I was talking about the UAV camera – Sat pictures could always be processed at they are still. Live UAV feed is true and no one can point any finger. It clearly showed Idiotic LTTE Terrorists shooting at innocent civilians. The escaped civilians also came in with gun shot wounds and informed that the LTTE was shooting those who escape. I trust you meant Gen. Sarath Fonseka, who has a chance to be the next president of the country ? Well, he did see them live along with some overseas diplomats at the Air Force HQ…
I totally agree with you. There are a few war criminals left and I my self cant fathom how they could sleep in peace at night or day. Not 50,000, they killed more than 100,000 Tamils it self though they said that they were fighting on behalf of the Tamils. How about the Honorable Tamil leaders starting from Doraiappa, Kadiragamar, Fernandopulle, Thiruchelvan etc. Not forgetting Rajiv Ghandi, R. Premadasa – two leaders of countries. Then the Clergy including Pusari of Hindu Kovil, Thousands of Buddhist Monks, The Muslim Lebbes and Fathers of churches. We also cannot forget the other innocent civilians immaterial of religion and race – Thousands killed just because one mad man had a personal goal to achieve.
But don't worry my friend. That mad man is dead – the GOSL killed the idiot in the final war to liberate the Tamil Civilians from this brutal terrorism. Now everyone could live in peace in one country as one nation.
Again I agree, I know these guys tried to use many propaganda mechanisms to show the to the world that it is the GOSL who is doing bad things, but then again, the whole world now knows the reason behind such propaganda and will not be fooled by the left over Terrorist Tiger tails.
I actually intend to spend my Bonus Package for rehabilitation work as it is a dying need at this moment of time. Would you like to join me in this good cause ??? It will help the innocent Tamil civilians battered by a 30 year Terrorism immensely. They would thank you and pray for your well-being if you do so and all God's grace will fall upon you if you help these people. Let's do so this time around.
Jim pappa
If you actually intend to spend your Bonus Package for rehabilitation work, it is good news, but I thought you are going to pick the golden eggs
islandTamil Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:56 pm
"The Government started to look at IDPs as the ducks laying golden eggs."
Hey Rohan…. How r u keeping today ..
Indeed thought of doing a few good deeds this Christmas…. I prefer action than Talk though you would experience the latter on an internet site. No use talking on behalf of any of them or trying to show that you care if you really don't do so right ??
I have never been a fan of Gold as I always thought that Gold is a passion for women and not for guys.. The only golden Eggs I have heard of is on fairy tales which I unfortunately don't believe as I have grown up now…..
Well, the government will indeed see them more than Ducks laying Golden Eggs – I see them as one of the most important element of the economic cogwheel of our country. Imagine those who held guns holding a Rake !!! The thousands of acres of farm land which were full of mines before being prosperous fields of Crops !! I would not stop at describing this scenario as a mere gold find. This is worth more than gold… A whole nation coming together and developing the economy – Wow !!
Hello Hell !!
I did not talk of the Satellite Camera – I was talking about the UAV camera – Sat pictures could always be processed at they are still. Live UAV feed is true and no one can point any finger. It clearly showed Idiotic LTTE Terrorists shooting at innocent civilians. The escaped civilians also came in with gun shot wounds and informed that the LTTE was shooting those who escape. I trust you meant Gen. Sarath Fonseka, who has a chance to be the next president of the country ? Well, he did see them live along with some overseas diplomats at the Air Force HQ…
I totally agree with you. There are a few war criminals left and I my self cant fathom how they could sleep in peace at night or day. Not 50,000, they killed more than 100,000 Tamils it self though they said that they were fighting on behalf of the Tamils. How about the Honorable Tamil leaders starting from Doraiappa, Kadiragamar, Fernandopulle, Thiruchelvan etc. Not forgetting Rajiv Ghandi, R. Premadasa – two leaders of countries. Then the Clergy including Pusari of Hindu Kovil, Thousands of Buddhist Monks, The Muslim Lebbes and Fathers of churches. We also cannot forget the other innocent civilians immaterial of religion and race – Thousands killed just because one mad man had a personal goal to achieve.
But don’t worry my friend. That mad man is dead – the GOSL killed the idiot in the final war to liberate the Tamil Civilians from this brutal terrorism. Now everyone could live in peace in one country as one nation.
Again I agree, I know these guys tried to use many propaganda mechanisms to show the to the world that it is the GOSL who is doing bad things, but then again, the whole world now knows the reason behind such propaganda and will not be fooled by the left over Terrorist Tiger tails.
I actually intend to spend my Bonus Package for rehabilitation work as it is a dying need at this moment of time. Would you like to join me in this good cause ??? It will help the innocent Tamil civilians battered by a 30 year Terrorism immensely. They would thank you and pray for your well-being if you do so and all God’s grace will fall upon you if you help these people. Let’s do so this time around.
Jim pappa
If you actually intend to spend your Bonus Package for rehabilitation work, it is good news, but I thought you are going to pick the golden eggs
islandTamil Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:56 pm
“The Government started to look at IDPs as the ducks laying golden eggs.”
Hey Rohan…. How r u keeping today ..
Indeed thought of doing a few good deeds this Christmas…. I prefer action than Talk though you would experience the latter on an internet site. No use talking on behalf of any of them or trying to show that you care if you really don’t do so right ??
I have never been a fan of Gold as I always thought that Gold is a passion for women and not for guys.. The only golden Eggs I have heard of is on fairy tales which I unfortunately don’t believe as I have grown up now…..
Well, the government will indeed see them more than Ducks laying Golden Eggs – I see them as one of the most important element of the economic cogwheel of our country. Imagine those who held guns holding a Rake !!! The thousands of acres of farm land which were full of mines before being prosperous fields of Crops !! I would not stop at describing this scenario as a mere gold find. This is worth more than gold… A whole nation coming together and developing the economy – Wow !!
You might be interested to see the public statement issued by AI today, calling on the leaders of the Commonwealth to address the human rights crisis in Sri Lanka – http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report…
You might be interested to see the public statement issued by AI today, calling on the leaders of the Commonwealth to address the human rights crisis in Sri Lanka – http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report…
You might be interested to see the public statement issued by AI today, calling on the leaders of the Commonwealth to address the human rights crisis in Sri Lanka – http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/commonwealth-leaders-must-focus-sri-lanka-crisis-20091127
Jim Pappa
Tamil National Remembrance Day, I remember those who were killed under Sinhala chauvinism over 6 decades after Briish hand over our freedom to Racist buddist sinhala terror state.
Jim Pappa
Tamil National Remembrance Day, I remember those who were killed under Sinhala chauvinism over 6 decades after Briish hand over our freedom to Racist buddist sinhala terror state.
Reading the comments on this post, it is quite clear that the gross HR violations inflicted on the Tamils was caused by the hardcore Sinhalese chauvinist elements of the society [some of them commenting here like the Jimmy Pappas], with the government being the tool of execution and playing to this gallery of Sinhala racists. Now that Sarath Fonseka has come to split the attention of this gallery the government is trying to act a wee bit benign to the IDPs – frankly as long as these racist elements who want to enslave another race hold sway, there will be no hope in sight for the suffering Tamils.
Reading the comments on this post, it is quite clear that the gross HR violations inflicted on the Tamils was caused by the hardcore Sinhalese chauvinist elements of the society [some of them commenting here like the Jimmy Pappas], with the government being the tool of execution and playing to this gallery of Sinhala racists. Now that Sarath Fonseka has come to split the attention of this gallery the government is trying to act a wee bit benign to the IDPs – frankly as long as these racist elements who want to enslave another race hold sway, there will be no hope in sight for the suffering Tamils.
Rohan !
I trust the British handed over the country to the same people whom they took it off. That did not mean that any party lost any kind of freedom. Celebrating a National day on a birthday of a Terrorist Leader, I am not surprised you coming up with the same false claim they made as your intentions are different and not at all in line with the truth….
So, I don't see any reason to continue this discussion with you as your intentions are for a separate state by any means and in the process be lying from your a$$ to achieve it. I will only be engaging in a useless argument with you. In fact, all answers to the petty arguments you bring in have been answered by me in these forums – so You have a question, I suggest you check the amnesty blogs under my name and you will find the answers for it.
Hanuman,
Reading the comments on this post, it is quite clear that the gross HR violations inflicted on the Tamils was caused by the hardcore Sinhalese chauvinist elements of the society [some of them commenting here like the Jimmy Pappas],
I refer to the above comment you made and Sadly will have to repeat something I have said many times in this forum…… "I never mention any name of any ethnic group unless it cannot be avoided – it is you who would always talk with an Ethnic divide" – So calling me a "Hardcore Singhalees Chauvinist" is kind of a Joke, specially when it comes from a racist person like you – 😀 😀 😀 – I seriously can laugh out a lot on this comment from you…..
It is not I or the government (from what I know) who is racist or trying a Ethnic divide in this country – it is you, a few LTTE supporter racists who wish to do so. We are trying to get everyone to live peacefully in one motherland and you actually are on a road that was created by a Terrorist group without a reason. You are following one Mad Man's Dream !
Rohan !
I trust the British handed over the country to the same people whom they took it off. That did not mean that any party lost any kind of freedom. Celebrating a National day on a birthday of a Terrorist Leader, I am not surprised you coming up with the same false claim they made as your intentions are different and not at all in line with the truth….
So, I don’t see any reason to continue this discussion with you as your intentions are for a separate state by any means and in the process be lying from your a$$ to achieve it. I will only be engaging in a useless argument with you. In fact, all answers to the petty arguments you bring in have been answered by me in these forums – so You have a question, I suggest you check the amnesty blogs under my name and you will find the answers for it.
Hanuman,
Reading the comments on this post, it is quite clear that the gross HR violations inflicted on the Tamils was caused by the hardcore Sinhalese chauvinist elements of the society [some of them commenting here like the Jimmy Pappas],
I refer to the above comment you made and Sadly will have to repeat something I have said many times in this forum…… “I never mention any name of any ethnic group unless it cannot be avoided – it is you who would always talk with an Ethnic divide” – So calling me a “Hardcore Singhalees Chauvinist” is kind of a Joke, specially when it comes from a racist person like you – 😀 😀 😀 – I seriously can laugh out a lot on this comment from you…..
It is not I or the government (from what I know) who is racist or trying a Ethnic divide in this country – it is you, a few LTTE supporter racists who wish to do so. We are trying to get everyone to live peacefully in one motherland and you actually are on a road that was created by a Terrorist group without a reason. You are following one Mad Man’s Dream !
The Sri Lankan Minister of Resettlement and Disaster Relief Services said today (see http://www.news.lk/index.php?option=com_content&a… that the IDPs will be able to leave the camps tomorrow without "any conditions being imposed." That's great to hear; I really hope we see that happening tomorrow.
The Sri Lankan Minister of Resettlement and Disaster Relief Services said today (see http://www.news.lk/index.php?option=com_content&a… that the IDPs will be able to leave the camps tomorrow without "any conditions being imposed." That's great to hear; I really hope we see that happening tomorrow.
The Sri Lankan Minister of Resettlement and Disaster Relief Services said today (see http://www.news.lk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12588&Itemid=44) that the IDPs will be able to leave the camps tomorrow without “any conditions being imposed.” That’s great to hear; I really hope we see that happening tomorrow.
Jim Pappa
In 1799 June, Sir Hugh Cleghorn, the first British Colonial Secretary wrote to the British Government…
Two different nations from a very ancient period have divided between them the possession of the Island. First the Sinhalese, inhabiting the interior of the country in its Southern and Western parts, and secondly the Malabars [Tamils] who possess the Northern and Eastern Districts. These two nations differ entirely in their religion, language and manners.
1803 The last Tamil kingdom [vanni area] was taken by British colonial.
Portuguese and Dutch ruled the Tamil and Sinhala Kingdoms separately, but, the British artificially joined them for their administrative convenience only in 1833.
On Feb. 4, 1948 – British left the Island leaving it as one country, CEYLON, leaving political power in the hands of the ‘majority’ Sinhalese.
61 years of suffering from Sinhala chauvinism.
Jim pappa, I read your comments even when u were writing in the name Roshan, dune,…, only the name different but the agenda still same.
Jim Pappa
In 1799 June, Sir Hugh Cleghorn, the first British Colonial Secretary wrote to the British Government…
Two different nations from a very ancient period have divided between them the possession of the Island. First the Sinhalese, inhabiting the interior of the country in its Southern and Western parts, and secondly the Malabars [Tamils] who possess the Northern and Eastern Districts. These two nations differ entirely in their religion, language and manners.
1803 The last Tamil kingdom [vanni area] was taken by British colonial.
Portuguese and Dutch ruled the Tamil and Sinhala Kingdoms separately, but, the British artificially joined them for their administrative convenience only in 1833.
On Feb. 4, 1948 – British left the Island leaving it as one country, CEYLON, leaving political power in the hands of the ‘majority’ Sinhalese.
61 years of suffering from Sinhala chauvinism.
Jim pappa, I read your comments even when u were writing in the name Roshan, dune,…, only the name different but the agenda still same.
I was happy to hear earlier today that the civilians are indeed leaving the camps. Unfortunately, the BBC is reporting (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8387537.stm… that the civilians are being told by the Sri Lankan government that they have to return to the camps within 15 days. So is this just a "temporary unlocking" of the camps?
I was happy to hear earlier today that the civilians are indeed leaving the camps. Unfortunately, the BBC is reporting (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8387537.stm… that the civilians are being told by the Sri Lankan government that they have to return to the camps within 15 days. So is this just a "temporary unlocking" of the camps?
I was happy to hear earlier today that the civilians are indeed leaving the camps. Unfortunately, the BBC is reporting (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8387537.stm) that the civilians are being told by the Sri Lankan government that they have to return to the camps within 15 days. So is this just a “temporary unlocking” of the camps?
Jim Pappa
u are trying to create your own histroy, many disscussed on this including u, don't try to write a fiction, kingdom is kingdom, no one make temp. kingdom http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/how-did-sri-lanka…
who made the mess, who else state terrorism over 6 decades http://blog.amnestyusa.org/iar/sri-lanka-internat…
what did the "rightful owners" do to Tamils in sl
-More than 130,000 Tamil men, women and children estimated Killed or Disappeared
-1.1 Million Tamils made to flee the country
-More than 600,000 Tamil Internal Refugees (Internally Displaced or Evicted)
-More than 20,000 Tamil orphaned children
-More than 35,000 Tamil widows
-Thousands of families (including infants) in barbed wire fenced concentration camps operated by Sri Lankan Military.
-Half a million Tamils kept under military rule in Jaffna peninsula (Northern Sri Lanka) described as an "open prison".
-Thousands in custody – detention without trial, other widespread abuses
-Economic embargo imposed on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades
-Supply of food, medicine, fuel, electricity and other essential items controlled by the Military
-Forced Starvation
-Usage of banned weapons – Cluster bombs, White phosporous. Usage of heavy weapons, artillery on densely populated civilian areas. Reported usage of chemical weapons.
-Mass Graves and systematic violations of fundamental human rights remain uninvestigated
-No International Media allowed into conflict areas
-State sponsored pogroms
-Systematic destruction of Infrastructure
Indiscriminate and wanton air attacks on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades.
-Hundreds of thousands of livelyhoods and schools, hospitals, libraries, temples, churches, houses, villages destroyed
Hello there Rohan !!
Indeed Sir Hugh Cleghorn, the first British Colonial Secretary could write that way because the Island was divided by then. We had some weak rulers after Price Sapumal who basically could not keep a unitary Sri Lanka which resulted in the same old thing that has happened over many thousands of years in History – South Indian Kingdoms attacking the northern part and having their kingdoms. This statement does not mean that he says that it was like that forever in the past. He is talking of that time period only. Indeed the cultures are different – any donkey could understand it – for example, take the place where we all are suppose to come from – India, the cultures and religious beliefs change from City to City – but, you seldom see the majority fight ?? Before the Britishers gave freedom and created India, the Bharath had many demarcations – there were many kingdoms like Kerala, Chola, Pandya, Sakya etc… not forgetting the Sah Jahan's clan – But, do we see them claiming any separate kingdom ???? None of those Kingdoms were permenant – Just as in the case of the kingdoms created in Jaffna by attacking south Indians. You attack a country and claim it for yourself ??This is where you have gone wrong…
However, to correct a mistake, The Dutch ruled the whole of the coastal belt prior to British taking over, this included Jaffna and Vanni – this kingdom was also one of the first to fall to Portuguese – So No Kingdom in Jaffna after Portuguese took over….
British had more than 150 years to study the History of the country and also helped big time to uncover some of the historical marvels of the country – There were plenty British historians who were thorough on Sri Lankan history and they were quite knowledgeable on the Island's history and it's livelihood. What they did in 1948 was give it back to the rightful owners to rule it in peace and go – when I say rightful owners – I mean all of us – it is up to us to make it work than make it a mess – What you are doing falls to the latter…
Jim MD,
Common Man – give us a break !! You see it happening and still you want to make judgments ??
I wonder what you guys will have to say once they are all settled ??
You must be joking or really out of your mind to think that things could happen over night after a 30 year old matter is sorted…
Hi Jim McDonald,
It is really a good news even if it is temporary unlocking or temporary good news. AI's including your voice definetly helped to put the pressure on SL gorvernment to say 4 Limited freedom for IDPs. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/01/sri-l…
I still have many relative in the camps, they are now poorest in the poor, they may not have other alternative, until released to go their home, they may stay in the camps. but atleast Limited freedom may give temp. mental help to them & me. Thanks 4 A
Jim Pappa
u are trying to create your own histroy, many disscussed on this including u, don't try to write a fiction, kingdom is kingdom, no one make temp. kingdom http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/how-did-sri-lanka…
who made the mess, who else state terrorism over 6 decades http://blog.amnestyusa.org/iar/sri-lanka-internat…
what did the "rightful owners" do to Tamils in sl
-More than 130,000 Tamil men, women and children estimated Killed or Disappeared
-1.1 Million Tamils made to flee the country
-More than 600,000 Tamil Internal Refugees (Internally Displaced or Evicted)
-More than 20,000 Tamil orphaned children
-More than 35,000 Tamil widows
-Thousands of families (including infants) in barbed wire fenced concentration camps operated by Sri Lankan Military.
-Half a million Tamils kept under military rule in Jaffna peninsula (Northern Sri Lanka) described as an "open prison".
-Thousands in custody – detention without trial, other widespread abuses
-Economic embargo imposed on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades
-Supply of food, medicine, fuel, electricity and other essential items controlled by the Military
-Forced Starvation
-Usage of banned weapons – Cluster bombs, White phosporous. Usage of heavy weapons, artillery on densely populated civilian areas. Reported usage of chemical weapons.
-Mass Graves and systematic violations of fundamental human rights remain uninvestigated
-No International Media allowed into conflict areas
-State sponsored pogroms
-Systematic destruction of Infrastructure
Indiscriminate and wanton air attacks on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades.
-Hundreds of thousands of livelyhoods and schools, hospitals, libraries, temples, churches, houses, villages destroyed
Hi Jim McDonald,
It is really a good news even if it is temporary unlocking or temporary good news. AI's including your voice definetly helped to put the pressure on SL gorvernment to say 4 Limited freedom for IDPs. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/01/sri-l…
I still have many relative in the camps, they are now poorest in the poor, they may not have other alternative, until released to go their home, they may stay in the camps. but atleast Limited freedom may give temp. mental help to them & me. Thanks 4 A
Sorry jim, before complete enter button submitted.
Thanks 4 AI Voice 4 Voiceless IDPs.
Hey Rohan,
I am actually saying what the books say – remember, Sri Lanka is one of the very very few countries in the whole world that has a proper written history running to more than 2,500 years (if not the only country with an unending written history from the time man started to write. So you can't say No to such documentation or re-create it.
As rightfully mentioned in the article "How did SL end up in this crisis" the History starts from year 1972 – no justice to a history of more than 2,500 years – a mere 30 years you trying to re-create.
As for the rest of your arguments,
-More than 130,000 Tamil men, women and children estimated Killed or Disappeared – Killed by the LTTE than any other force I guess – specially the leaders as Lakshman K…..
-1.1 Million Tamils made to flee the country – No one is made to flee a country. I think it was they who did so. The remaining bunch has no issues ?? If not how can there be company / group chairman s, Government ministers etc. living peacefully ??
-More than 600,000 Tamil Internal Refugees (Internally Displaced or Evicted)
I thought the figure was 300,000 as mentioned by many credible organizations. May be you are talking of the Singhala and Muslim IDP's that were sent out by the LTTE long time ago. But that figure exceeds 300,000 to make your grand total 600,000. This again happened due to LTTE and you should not blame any GOSL in the past or present for that.
-More than 20,000 Tamil orphaned children
I have lost count of the Singhala and Muslim kids who were orphaned. Result of War situation, nothing to do with a Ethnic group – cause LTTE…
-More than 35,000 Tamil widows
You need to know the widowed Army personnel's wives ?? What about Mrs. Kadiragamar and Mrs. Thiruchelvan ?? – Cause LTTE
-Thousands of families (including infants) in barbed wire fenced concentration camps operated by Sri Lankan Military.
Not any more ha ?? – again if you look deep the cause is LTTE.
-Half a million Tamils kept under military rule in Jaffna peninsula (Northern Sri Lanka) described as an “open prison”.
Hmmm.. Nopes. Jaffna is under government control and these people move about freely – just met a guy from Jaffna and had a drink only last week.
-Thousands in custody – detention without trial, other widespread abuses
Problem with the justice system – agree – there are some trials that have dragged on for several years and some yet to be taken – nothing to do with Being Tamil.
-Economic embargo imposed on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades – LOL – By the LTTE. Remember, the rations sent to them during war was consumed by the LTTE. What was sent to them Free of Charge was charged by the LTTE – again cause – LTTE.
-Supply of food, medicine, fuel, electricity and other essential items controlled by the Military
When it was free – they ended up with the LTTE – what do u expect ?? – Bottom lien Cause – LTTE.
-Forced Starvation
As explained before – LTTE
-Usage of banned weapons – Cluster bombs, White phosporous. Usage of heavy weapons, artillery on densely populated civilian areas. Reported usage of chemical weapons.
Of course my friend – Chemical weapons were used by the LTTE – Remember seeing Pics and footage of Army using face masks etc. to avoid being affected ?? Cluster Bombs – No Sri Lanka has never seen them – Not even the LTTE got them here. Since, LTTE used humans as the shield I would say – Cause LTTE.
-Mass Graves and systematic violations of fundamental human rights remain uninvestigated
Investigation will happen on time and you will find that mass graves (if at all exists) will be of Armu Soldiers – Cause LTTE
-No International Media allowed into conflict areas
Not any more – we see many footage from the areas – cause dismissed.
-State sponsored pogroms – Mmmmm – Not quite sure what U mean here, but I don't think you would want LTTE sponsored Programs in these areas ha ??
-Systematic destruction of Infrastructure.
No dude – Infrastructure that was damaged / used by the LTTE are reconstructed, which includes Houses of civilians not only government building – Seldom you would find a government go to that extend to support the people ha ??
-Indiscriminate and wanton air attacks on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades.
The Tradition of Tamils being in these areas were created by the Singhala kings (Sorry I feel so racist here using all these ethnic terms – I hate it) They settled the Tamils in these areas over a period of Thousands of years and we are paying the price now (Not that I wouldn't want tamils there, but I want the peaceful bunch and not the idiots)
-Hundreds of thousands of livelyhoods and schools, hospitals, libraries, temples, churches, houses, villages destroyed
By the LTTE ha ?? remember they even attacked the Temple of tooth, Sri Maha Bidhi, Jaffna Kovil, Kalladi Mosque …… Many border villages Destroyed ?? -Cause LTTE
Bottom line – LTTE no longer there – so we can live in peace.
Hello there Rohan !!
Indeed Sir Hugh Cleghorn, the first British Colonial Secretary could write that way because the Island was divided by then. We had some weak rulers after Price Sapumal who basically could not keep a unitary Sri Lanka which resulted in the same old thing that has happened over many thousands of years in History – South Indian Kingdoms attacking the northern part and having their kingdoms. This statement does not mean that he says that it was like that forever in the past. He is talking of that time period only. Indeed the cultures are different – any donkey could understand it – for example, take the place where we all are suppose to come from – India, the cultures and religious beliefs change from City to City – but, you seldom see the majority fight ?? Before the Britishers gave freedom and created India, the Bharath had many demarcations – there were many kingdoms like Kerala, Chola, Pandya, Sakya etc… not forgetting the Sah Jahan’s clan – But, do we see them claiming any separate kingdom ???? None of those Kingdoms were permenant – Just as in the case of the kingdoms created in Jaffna by attacking south Indians. You attack a country and claim it for yourself ??This is where you have gone wrong…
However, to correct a mistake, The Dutch ruled the whole of the coastal belt prior to British taking over, this included Jaffna and Vanni – this kingdom was also one of the first to fall to Portuguese – So No Kingdom in Jaffna after Portuguese took over….
British had more than 150 years to study the History of the country and also helped big time to uncover some of the historical marvels of the country – There were plenty British historians who were thorough on Sri Lankan history and they were quite knowledgeable on the Island’s history and it’s livelihood. What they did in 1948 was give it back to the rightful owners to rule it in peace and go – when I say rightful owners – I mean all of us – it is up to us to make it work than make it a mess – What you are doing falls to the latter…
Jim MD,
Common Man – give us a break !! You see it happening and still you want to make judgments ??
I wonder what you guys will have to say once they are all settled ??
You must be joking or really out of your mind to think that things could happen over night after a 30 year old matter is sorted…
Jim Pappa
u are trying to create your own histroy, many disscussed on this including u, don’t try to write a fiction, kingdom is kingdom, no one make temp. kingdom
http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/how-did-sri-lanka-end-up-in-this-crisis/
who made the mess, who else state terrorism over 6 decades
http://blog.amnestyusa.org/iar/sri-lanka-international-investigation-still-needed/#comment-10967
what did the “rightful owners” do to Tamils in sl
-More than 130,000 Tamil men, women and children estimated Killed or Disappeared
-1.1 Million Tamils made to flee the country
-More than 600,000 Tamil Internal Refugees (Internally Displaced or Evicted)
-More than 20,000 Tamil orphaned children
-More than 35,000 Tamil widows
-Thousands of families (including infants) in barbed wire fenced concentration camps operated by Sri Lankan Military.
-Half a million Tamils kept under military rule in Jaffna peninsula (Northern Sri Lanka) described as an “open prison”.
-Thousands in custody – detention without trial, other widespread abuses
-Economic embargo imposed on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades
-Supply of food, medicine, fuel, electricity and other essential items controlled by the Military
-Forced Starvation
-Usage of banned weapons – Cluster bombs, White phosporous. Usage of heavy weapons, artillery on densely populated civilian areas. Reported usage of chemical weapons.
-Mass Graves and systematic violations of fundamental human rights remain uninvestigated
-No International Media allowed into conflict areas
-State sponsored pogroms
-Systematic destruction of Infrastructure
Indiscriminate and wanton air attacks on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades.
-Hundreds of thousands of livelyhoods and schools, hospitals, libraries, temples, churches, houses, villages destroyed
Hi Jim McDonald,
It is really a good news even if it is temporary unlocking or temporary good news. AI’s including your voice definetly helped to put the pressure on SL gorvernment to say 4 Limited freedom for IDPs.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/01/sri-lanka-tamil-refugees-freed
I still have many relative in the camps, they are now poorest in the poor, they may not have other alternative, until released to go their home, they may stay in the camps. but atleast Limited freedom may give temp. mental help to them & me. Thanks 4 A
Sorry jim, before complete enter button submitted.
Thanks 4 AI Voice 4 Voiceless IDPs.
Hey Rohan,
I am actually saying what the books say – remember, Sri Lanka is one of the very very few countries in the whole world that has a proper written history running to more than 2,500 years (if not the only country with an unending written history from the time man started to write. So you can’t say No to such documentation or re-create it.
As rightfully mentioned in the article “How did SL end up in this crisis” the History starts from year 1972 – no justice to a history of more than 2,500 years – a mere 30 years you trying to re-create.
As for the rest of your arguments,
-More than 130,000 Tamil men, women and children estimated Killed or Disappeared – Killed by the LTTE than any other force I guess – specially the leaders as Lakshman K…..
-1.1 Million Tamils made to flee the country – No one is made to flee a country. I think it was they who did so. The remaining bunch has no issues ?? If not how can there be company / group chairman s, Government ministers etc. living peacefully ??
-More than 600,000 Tamil Internal Refugees (Internally Displaced or Evicted)
I thought the figure was 300,000 as mentioned by many credible organizations. May be you are talking of the Singhala and Muslim IDP’s that were sent out by the LTTE long time ago. But that figure exceeds 300,000 to make your grand total 600,000. This again happened due to LTTE and you should not blame any GOSL in the past or present for that.
-More than 20,000 Tamil orphaned children
I have lost count of the Singhala and Muslim kids who were orphaned. Result of War situation, nothing to do with a Ethnic group – cause LTTE…
-More than 35,000 Tamil widows
You need to know the widowed Army personnel’s wives ?? What about Mrs. Kadiragamar and Mrs. Thiruchelvan ?? – Cause LTTE
-Thousands of families (including infants) in barbed wire fenced concentration camps operated by Sri Lankan Military.
Not any more ha ?? – again if you look deep the cause is LTTE.
-Half a million Tamils kept under military rule in Jaffna peninsula (Northern Sri Lanka) described as an “open prison”.
Hmmm.. Nopes. Jaffna is under government control and these people move about freely – just met a guy from Jaffna and had a drink only last week.
-Thousands in custody – detention without trial, other widespread abuses
Problem with the justice system – agree – there are some trials that have dragged on for several years and some yet to be taken – nothing to do with Being Tamil.
-Economic embargo imposed on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades – LOL – By the LTTE. Remember, the rations sent to them during war was consumed by the LTTE. What was sent to them Free of Charge was charged by the LTTE – again cause – LTTE.
-Supply of food, medicine, fuel, electricity and other essential items controlled by the Military
When it was free – they ended up with the LTTE – what do u expect ?? – Bottom lien Cause – LTTE.
-Forced Starvation
As explained before – LTTE
-Usage of banned weapons – Cluster bombs, White phosporous. Usage of heavy weapons, artillery on densely populated civilian areas. Reported usage of chemical weapons.
Of course my friend – Chemical weapons were used by the LTTE – Remember seeing Pics and footage of Army using face masks etc. to avoid being affected ?? Cluster Bombs – No Sri Lanka has never seen them – Not even the LTTE got them here. Since, LTTE used humans as the shield I would say – Cause LTTE.
-Mass Graves and systematic violations of fundamental human rights remain uninvestigated
Investigation will happen on time and you will find that mass graves (if at all exists) will be of Armu Soldiers – Cause LTTE
-No International Media allowed into conflict areas
Not any more – we see many footage from the areas – cause dismissed.
-State sponsored pogroms – Mmmmm – Not quite sure what U mean here, but I don’t think you would want LTTE sponsored Programs in these areas ha ??
-Systematic destruction of Infrastructure.
No dude – Infrastructure that was damaged / used by the LTTE are reconstructed, which includes Houses of civilians not only government building – Seldom you would find a government go to that extend to support the people ha ??
-Indiscriminate and wanton air attacks on traditional Tamil areas for more than 2 decades.
The Tradition of Tamils being in these areas were created by the Singhala kings (Sorry I feel so racist here using all these ethnic terms – I hate it) They settled the Tamils in these areas over a period of Thousands of years and we are paying the price now (Not that I wouldn’t want tamils there, but I want the peaceful bunch and not the idiots)
-Hundreds of thousands of livelyhoods and schools, hospitals, libraries, temples, churches, houses, villages destroyed
By the LTTE ha ?? remember they even attacked the Temple of tooth, Sri Maha Bidhi, Jaffna Kovil, Kalladi Mosque …… Many border villages Destroyed ?? -Cause LTTE
Bottom line – LTTE no longer there – so we can live in peace.
jim pappaaaa
u sin hell a state terror propaganda blood sucking leach, still thirst of Tamil blood, peace never come from mass grave. ltte was a symptom of chauvinist and terror state.
who killed these children, idiot http://picasaweb.google.com/TamilPuli/GenocideOfT…
jim pappaaaa
u sin hell a state terror propaganda blood sucking leach, still thirst of Tamil blood, peace never come from mass grave. ltte was a symptom of chauvinist and terror state.
who killed these children, idiot http://picasaweb.google.com/TamilPuli/GenocideOfT…
jim pappaaaa
u sin hell a state terror propaganda blood sucking leach, still thirst of Tamil blood, peace never come from mass grave. ltte was a symptom of chauvinist and terror state.
who killed these children, idiot
http://picasaweb.google.com/TamilPuli/GenocideOfTamilChildren?feat=directlink#
Dear In Hell !!
My My My… What did I say to aggravate you this bad ???
I only have to say one thing to you. "Check my postings"
You will see that all my comments are anti racial 😀 😀 😀 – I am proud of it !!
You guys on the other hand has been unbelievably Racial – So I am leaving it for the readers and the public to decide whether I am a racist.
I don't thirst for any blood – LTTE to my knowledge was a result of a Lunetic and a few others who supported him and who still are supporting him (Fit the Cap)
You are asking me as to who killed some children – why ask me ?? I would not know. But one thing I know for sure is that LTTE killed many such children, Clergy, Politicians and all these immaterial of religion or race. In addition, LTTE also killed many Tamils who opposed them – so you decide who is thirsty for blood. Poor me or LTTE and their supporters.
Don't be angry at anything brother – I feel that you are angry at yourself than any other matter. You have a peaceful country to live in – forget the lunatic Prabha's attitude and live peacefully in this beautiful Island.
Dear In Hell !!
My My My… What did I say to aggravate you this bad ???
I only have to say one thing to you. “Check my postings”
You will see that all my comments are anti racial 😀 😀 😀 – I am proud of it !!
You guys on the other hand has been unbelievably Racial – So I am leaving it for the readers and the public to decide whether I am a racist.
I don’t thirst for any blood – LTTE to my knowledge was a result of a Lunetic and a few others who supported him and who still are supporting him (Fit the Cap)
You are asking me as to who killed some children – why ask me ?? I would not know. But one thing I know for sure is that LTTE killed many such children, Clergy, Politicians and all these immaterial of religion or race. In addition, LTTE also killed many Tamils who opposed them – so you decide who is thirsty for blood. Poor me or LTTE and their supporters.
Don’t be angry at anything brother – I feel that you are angry at yourself than any other matter. You have a peaceful country to live in – forget the lunatic Prabha’s attitude and live peacefully in this beautiful Island.
(Jim Pappa)
Is it your other face in the name (ImpartialLankan)??? http://www.topix.com/forum/world/sri-lanka/TC70A5…
(Jim Pappa)
Is it your other face in the name (ImpartialLankan)??? http://www.topix.com/forum/world/sri-lanka/TC70A5…
(Jim Pappa)
Is it your other face in the name (ImpartialLankan)???
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/sri-lanka/TC70A5EDNMP25J14C/p39#c885
Truth !!
Well first of all, I would like to discuss matters with you if you post using a single name than multiple harangue as names. I actually see this as a tactic to get away without answering questions I post or a means of convenience to get away from the topics discussed.
As for your question – No it is not me though I my self is 100% impartial.
It is not only me and Mango who would write on columns like this. I only stick to this as I don't have time to go write on each and every blog – Don't have free time like you guys as I don't live on a dole in another country – I live in Sri Lanka and work for a living.
Truth !!
Well first of all, I would like to discuss matters with you if you post using a single name than multiple harangue as names. I actually see this as a tactic to get away without answering questions I post or a means of convenience to get away from the topics discussed.
As for your question – No it is not me though I my self is 100% impartial.
It is not only me and Mango who would write on columns like this. I only stick to this as I don’t have time to go write on each and every blog – Don’t have free time like you guys as I don’t live on a dole in another country – I live in Sri Lanka and work for a living.
Jim Pappa
I know you 0.100% impartial. What is the political solution you have for Minorities in sri lanka. But all the governments faild to come up with any solution after your independent. Two friendly nations or Two enemy nations?
The Government of Sri Lanka has intentionally created a news black-out.
There is a big danger that the internees as well as the general human rights situation will just drop off the radar, and people will assume that the situation has improved. But for the human right activists the bottom-line is clear.
As long as there are people still in the camps (whatever the number); and
As long as "release" simply means new holding centers or otherwise wholly inadequate conditions where people have been "resettled", and
As long as people in these camps, including those detained as alleged members of the LTTE, face huge risks to life and well-being, so long will this Campaign continue.
Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. We are doing our best to figure out what would help the innocent civilians who have already been imprisoned for too long. If you have any suggestions, please tell us and we will respond as soon as possible.
And finally, let us all remember and be inspired by the words of the last editorial that Wickramatunga, editor of Sri Lanka's “The Leader” and brave defender of the rights of all Sri Lankans, wrote earlier this year – shortly before (and in anticipation of) his assassination.
No other profession calls on its practitioners to lay down their lives for their art save the armed forces and, in Sri Lanka, journalism. In the course of the past few years, the independent media have increasingly come under attack.
Electronic and print-media institutions have been burnt, bombed, sealed and coerced. Countless journalists have been harassed, threatened and killed. It has been my honour to belong to all those categories and now especially the last.
With great foresight he predicted that:. a military occupation of the country's north and east will require the Tamil people of those regions to live eternally as second-class citizens, deprived of all self respect.
Do not imagine that you can placate them by showering "development" and "reconstruction" on them in the post-war era.
The wounds of war will scare them forever. A problem amenable to a political solution will thus become a festering wound that will yield strife for all eternity.
Jim Pappa
I know you 0.100% impartial. What is the political solution you have for Minorities in sri lanka. But all the governments faild to come up with any solution after your independent. Two friendly nations or Two enemy nations?
The Government of Sri Lanka has intentionally created a news black-out.
There is a big danger that the internees as well as the general human rights situation will just drop off the radar, and people will assume that the situation has improved. But for the human right activists the bottom-line is clear.
As long as there are people still in the camps (whatever the number); and
As long as “release” simply means new holding centers or otherwise wholly inadequate conditions where people have been “resettled”, and
As long as people in these camps, including those detained as alleged members of the LTTE, face huge risks to life and well-being, so long will this Campaign continue.
Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. We are doing our best to figure out what would help the innocent civilians who have already been imprisoned for too long. If you have any suggestions, please tell us and we will respond as soon as possible.
And finally, let us all remember and be inspired by the words of the last editorial that Wickramatunga, editor of Sri Lanka’s “The Leader” and brave defender of the rights of all Sri Lankans, wrote earlier this year – shortly before (and in anticipation of) his assassination.
No other profession calls on its practitioners to lay down their lives for their art save the armed forces and, in Sri Lanka, journalism. In the course of the past few years, the independent media have increasingly come under attack.
Electronic and print-media institutions have been burnt, bombed, sealed and coerced. Countless journalists have been harassed, threatened and killed. It has been my honour to belong to all those categories and now especially the last.
With great foresight he predicted that:. a military occupation of the country’s north and east will require the Tamil people of those regions to live eternally as second-class citizens, deprived of all self respect.
Do not imagine that you can placate them by showering “development” and “reconstruction” on them in the post-war era.
The wounds of war will scare them forever. A problem amenable to a political solution will thus become a festering wound that will yield strife for all eternity.
The Sri Lankan government said yesterday that the bulk of the released IDPs are still in transit camps awaiting demining of their home villages – http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/COL51171…. I don't know whether the IDPs are able to leave the transit camps if they wish.
The Sri Lankan government said yesterday that the bulk of the released IDPs are still in transit camps awaiting demining of their home villages – http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/COL51171…. I don't know whether the IDPs are able to leave the transit camps if they wish.
The Sri Lankan government said yesterday that the bulk of the released IDPs are still in transit camps awaiting demining of their home villages – http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/COL511714.htm. I don’t know whether the IDPs are able to leave the transit camps if they wish.
Jim Pappa must understand the truth,
Politics Of Ethnic Deception: Will It Lead To Peace? http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2009/12/06/politics…
what is the political solution you have for Tamils? can you open your heart? no more lies.
Jim Pappa must understand the truth,
Politics Of Ethnic Deception: Will It Lead To Peace? http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2009/12/06/politics…
what is the political solution you have for Tamils? can you open your heart? no more lies.
Jim Pappa must understand the truth,
Politics Of Ethnic Deception: Will It Lead To Peace?
http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2009/12/06/politics-of-ethnic-deception-will-it-lead-to-peace/
what is the political solution you have for Tamils? can you open your heart? no more lies.
Truth !!
Regarding your post…
Jim Pappa
I know you 0.100% impartial. What is the political solution you have for Minorities in sri lanka. But all the governments faild to come up with any solution after your independent. Two friendly nations or Two enemy nations?
I don't see a reason for any political solution. I think all politicians are trying to make a big deal out of a situation that has anyway being created by politicians. If i can live with people from any ethnic group peacefully, I don't see any reason why another cannot do it. It is just that you need to change the mind set of a few people from all groups to come in to this reality – there is no need for any kind of solution because there is no problem – the other solution would be to get rid of power hungry politicians, which again the people of the country can do – but then, new leaders should emerge for that, which in any country's political background is unrealistic – that would be my solution where immaterial of government, people will live in peace – now what we have his power hungry politicians creating problems and misleading people.. We are all friends, so why fall in to some idiot's agenda and be enemies ?
Hope I answered you from my point of view…
In General, Since,
1. The War is over (No more "killing innocent people" slogan)
2. The IDP issue is quite sorted (No more "Set em Free" slogan)
3. Development work in the post war period has begun (No more "Living in Hell"
Slogan)
4. The GOSL is kind of getting the recognition Internationally in a bit of a
positive manner (No more lying to the International community)
5. Country is moving towards some kind of development (No way to bring it down)
I see that now we have found a new topic to discuss in these forums – "Political Solution"
If this topic was brought up 30 years ago in this manner – which means in a decent manner – without armed conflicts and killing innocent people, much could have been achieved by all parties….. So now we are talking peaceful solution here as well ha?? Good – better late than never… !!
Sri Lanka is too important a country to be isolated from the West. Sri Lanka has always been a friend of the west. Only that a few managed to mislead the west about the country. Well things are kind of sorted and people are striking reality.
Truth !!
Regarding your post…
Jim Pappa
I know you 0.100% impartial. What is the political solution you have for Minorities in sri lanka. But all the governments faild to come up with any solution after your independent. Two friendly nations or Two enemy nations?
I don’t see a reason for any political solution. I think all politicians are trying to make a big deal out of a situation that has anyway being created by politicians. If i can live with people from any ethnic group peacefully, I don’t see any reason why another cannot do it. It is just that you need to change the mind set of a few people from all groups to come in to this reality – there is no need for any kind of solution because there is no problem – the other solution would be to get rid of power hungry politicians, which again the people of the country can do – but then, new leaders should emerge for that, which in any country’s political background is unrealistic – that would be my solution where immaterial of government, people will live in peace – now what we have his power hungry politicians creating problems and misleading people.. We are all friends, so why fall in to some idiot’s agenda and be enemies ?
Hope I answered you from my point of view…
In General, Since,
1. The War is over (No more “killing innocent people” slogan)
2. The IDP issue is quite sorted (No more “Set em Free” slogan)
3. Development work in the post war period has begun (No more “Living in Hell”
Slogan)
4. The GOSL is kind of getting the recognition Internationally in a bit of a
positive manner (No more lying to the International community)
5. Country is moving towards some kind of development (No way to bring it down)
I see that now we have found a new topic to discuss in these forums – “Political Solution”
If this topic was brought up 30 years ago in this manner – which means in a decent manner – without armed conflicts and killing innocent people, much could have been achieved by all parties….. So now we are talking peaceful solution here as well ha?? Good – better late than never… !!
Sri Lanka is too important a country to be isolated from the West. Sri Lanka has always been a friend of the west. Only that a few managed to mislead the west about the country. Well things are kind of sorted and people are striking reality.
It is interesting to see, by papa
I don’t see a reason for any political solution.
by garfield
mislead the west, who mislead the world?
but don't forget the crime commited to Tamils over 61 yr http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/07/276…
It is interesting to see, by papa
I don’t see a reason for any political solution.
by garfield
mislead the west, who mislead the world?
but don't forget the crime commited to Tamils over 61 yr http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/07/276…
It is interesting to see, by papa
I don’t see a reason for any political solution.
by garfield
mislead the west, who mislead the world?
but don’t forget the crime commited to Tamils over 61 yr
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/07/2764384.htm
In Hell !!
Yep – there is no reason for a political solution because we all can live quite peacefully anywhere for that matter – all these issues are politically motivated, which means they come from power hungry politicians who mislead people than people who wish to get on with their lives immaterial of a religion or Race.
If the people get together and not get aggravated by power hungry politicians and say "Enough is Enough – we don't want anything that you need and we are willing to live peacefully instead of satisfying your political agenda" there would be more prosperity than you could imagine. But, unfortunately, what has happened is that most people tend to believe some uneducated politician than think on their own two feet.
You and I can start this change – Are you willing to lend me a hand ??
In Hell !!
Yep – there is no reason for a political solution because we all can live quite peacefully anywhere for that matter – all these issues are politically motivated, which means they come from power hungry politicians who mislead people than people who wish to get on with their lives immaterial of a religion or Race.
If the people get together and not get aggravated by power hungry politicians and say “Enough is Enough – we don’t want anything that you need and we are willing to live peacefully instead of satisfying your political agenda” there would be more prosperity than you could imagine. But, unfortunately, what has happened is that most people tend to believe some uneducated politician than think on their own two feet.
You and I can start this change – Are you willing to lend me a hand ??
Garfield
From which planet you come from?
Have you ever heard about the colonization of the Tamil Homelands?
There is a great danger of Sinhalese colonization on a large scale in the Tamil dominated areas of Sri Lanka
After annihilating the Tamil population in the north and eastern parts of the island nation, the Sinhalese majority is bent on occupying the Tamil space and change the demographic profile of the country.
In fact, colonization has already commenced.
The current regime is implementing the nationalist project of consolidating a Sinhala majoritarian unitary state and this consolidation works through terror and fear and the instigation of the current humanitarian crisis.
The humanitarian crisis operates through the abductions , extrajudicial killings, forced returns of the displaced, evictions through the HSZ designation , obstacles to humanitarian access , violence over the acquisition or appropriation of land and religious and archaeological sites.
Many high-profile statements of intent and premature celebrations are obviously intended as much for international consumption as for domestic legitimization amongst the majority community and to mask the increasing micro-level instances of violence, harassment and intimidation pursued by the security forces and their proxies, instances which still bear the undeniable logic and expressions of Sinhala nationalism.
Also note the profound militarization of development committees and the whole structure of the administrative machinery. In this sense, despite the gloss and spin of the current professed development strategy, in actuality, we see a return to the militarized and highly nationalistic and exclusifying colonization of old.
The danger here is that the donors and development agencies will be won over by the development discourse and will give up on a political solution in the shared belief that accelerated development is the key to securing the resolution of conflict.
Garfield
" You and I can start this change – Are you willing to lend me a hand ?? "
Sorry your hand (I mean GoSL hand )is a bit to bloody.
The alleged war crimes should be investigated first.
Jim Pappa
” We are all friends, so why fall in to some idiot’s agenda and be enemies ?
We are all friends ?? “
Whoa … Wait a minute… hold your horses
Why are the Tamil orphans not allowed to speak Tamil?
Why are the Sinhalese colonizing the Tamil Homelands?
Why is the weeding out “process not transparent ?
Why are the Sinhalese destroying many ancient Hindu Temples ?
e.g.
An ancient Hindu site called Akaththiyar Thaapanam was destroyed .
And to add insult to injury on Maaveerar Naal !!!!!!!
A Siva temple located at an ancient Hindu site called Akaththiyar Thaapanam, at Kangku-veali in the Moothoor division of the Trincomalee district, where Hindus gather especially to perform the Aadi Amaavaasai ritual for ancestors, was destroyed without any traces coinciding the Maaveerar Naal.
The location of the temple is under the control of Sri Lanka Army stationed at a nearby Sinhala village, Neelaappola.
The Tamil villagers who were shocked and wept to see the temple wiped out, suspect ‘outsiders’ and are scared now whether this is a prelude to wipe out their traditional village as well.
Garfield
From which planet you come from?
Have you ever heard about the colonization of the Tamil Homelands?
There is a great danger of Sinhalese colonization on a large scale in the Tamil dominated areas of Sri Lanka
After annihilating the Tamil population in the north and eastern parts of the island nation, the Sinhalese majority is bent on occupying the Tamil space and change the demographic profile of the country.
In fact, colonization has already commenced.
The current regime is implementing the nationalist project of consolidating a Sinhala majoritarian unitary state and this consolidation works through terror and fear and the instigation of the current humanitarian crisis.
The humanitarian crisis operates through the abductions , extrajudicial killings, forced returns of the displaced, evictions through the HSZ designation , obstacles to humanitarian access , violence over the acquisition or appropriation of land and religious and archaeological sites.
Many high-profile statements of intent and premature celebrations are obviously intended as much for international consumption as for domestic legitimization amongst the majority community and to mask the increasing micro-level instances of violence, harassment and intimidation pursued by the security forces and their proxies, instances which still bear the undeniable logic and expressions of Sinhala nationalism.
Also note the profound militarization of development committees and the whole structure of the administrative machinery. In this sense, despite the gloss and spin of the current professed development strategy, in actuality, we see a return to the militarized and highly nationalistic and exclusifying colonization of old.
The danger here is that the donors and development agencies will be won over by the development discourse and will give up on a political solution in the shared belief that accelerated development is the key to securing the resolution of conflict.
Garfield
” You and I can start this change – Are you willing to lend me a hand ?? ”
Sorry your hand (I mean GoSL hand )is a bit to bloody.
The alleged war crimes should be investigated first.
Jim Pappa
” We are all friends, so why fall in to some idiot’s agenda and be enemies ?
We are all friends ?? “
Whoa … Wait a minute… hold your horses
Why are the Tamil orphans not allowed to speak Tamil?
Why are the Sinhalese colonizing the Tamil Homelands?
Why is the weeding out “process not transparent ?
Why are the Sinhalese destroying many ancient Hindu Temples ?
e.g.
An ancient Hindu site called Akaththiyar Thaapanam was destroyed .
And to add insult to injury on Maaveerar Naal !!!!!!!
A Siva temple located at an ancient Hindu site called Akaththiyar Thaapanam, at Kangku-veali in the Moothoor division of the Trincomalee district, where Hindus gather especially to perform the Aadi Amaavaasai ritual for ancestors, was destroyed without any traces coinciding the Maaveerar Naal.
The location of the temple is under the control of Sri Lanka Army stationed at a nearby Sinhala village, Neelaappola.
The Tamil villagers who were shocked and wept to see the temple wiped out, suspect ‘outsiders’ and are scared now whether this is a prelude to wipe out their traditional village as well.
Mawathe !!
Why are the Tamil orphans not allowed to speak Tamil?
Where on earth is this happening ?? Almost all the Tamil people I know and their children are speaking in tamil and also they go to school and learn in Tamil ?? I am utterly amazed to hear this and I feel this is part of the false propaganda of yours….. There are many Hindu collages in all parts of the Island even in Colombo (as in Wella and Ratmalana where even the former LTTE child soldiers are allowed to study now) and they all do teach, learn and speak Tamil – Hey don't lie man… This is not about lying to achieve your needs, but getting together to build a nation.
Why are the Sinhalese colonizing the Tamil Homelands?
What are these Tamil Homelands you talk about ??? This is Sri Lanka belonging to Sri Lankans. Anyone should be able to live anywhere – if you demarcate as such, Do you think that the singhlees should call Wellawatte area colonization of Singhlala Land by Tamils ?? – Don't talk bullshit mann !!
Why is the weeding out “process not transparent ?
What weeding out process ??????
Why are the Sinhalese destroying many ancient Hindu Temples ?
Dude, only yesterday they found 39 statues of Hindu Gods belonging to a Kovil buried where a Kovil was partially destroyed by the LTTE. These were quite old (500 years) and has been recovered and the government is restoring the Kovil with the statues – So what on earth are you talking about ?? Just over a year ago, a Kovil was reconstructed in Peliyagoda (towards Kelaniya temple) with the fullest support of the government. So what is this nonsense about government destroying Kovils ??? It was your LTTE that destroyed Hindu Temples (Kovils), Muslim Mosques (Like in Kaththankudi) and Buddhist Shrines (Including the sacred Temple of tooth) – So please don't rubbish around with your sorry attempts to mislead those who do not have proper insight to what's happening here.
Over the past thousands of years, this battle between South Indian parties (Chola, Pandya etc) has been going on where they attack the northern part of the Island and many of the countries ancient values have been ruined. Don't forget that Jaffna which was then called "Dambakolapatuna" was very sacred to the Singhalees as that's where most of the sacred relic's of Loard Buddha was brought to the country – These locations were totally destroyed by South Indians (remember there was no Ethnic group called "Tamil" till very recent – it was always Chola, Pandya, Kerala etc.) – The point I am trying to make here is that, majority have come to realize that this country belongs to all those who has any kind of ancestral roots even up to 100 years which includes the British who colonized – the world have moved forward from the mentality they had 500 years ago…. So Why are you still holding on to it ?????? The Sighala Majority (99%) has moved on, The Tamil Majority (at least 85%) has moved on – So why not you ??????????
The rebuilding effort includes all people living in the country – They are called Sri Lankans… !! R U one ??
Tnambi !!
I would say read the previous post as a reply.
As mentioned there, in this planet, I don't understand how you have demarcated a Tamil Homeland or on what grounds you have demarcated it. Is Wellawatte tamil homeland too ??? Don't rubbish around. Learn to live as Sri lankans.
There are several ways one's hands could get bloody. One way is when you kill some living thing another would be when you carry the wounded to safety. I trust the GOSL has got blood in there hands by trying to carry the wounded to safety. Who was responsible for the blood ?? LTTE….
Only Budda can live in sri lanka
SRI LANKA Church attacked after Sunday Mass http://www.ucanews.com/2009/12/07/church-outside-…
In chauvinist and state terror .
Hindu temple of ritual significance destroyed in Trincomalee http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&art…
Ethnic cleansing is a crime against humanity. Ethnic cleansing is about assimilating and digesting a people. It is about destroying the identity of a people, as a people. And in the case of Sri Lanka the theoretical frame was articulated with clarity in July 2009 by Sri Lanka President Mahinda Rajapaksa –
“Now, my theory is: there are no minorities in Sri Lanka, there are only those who love the country and those who don’t… For reconciliation to happen, there must be a mix [of ethnicities]. Here the Sinhalese, the Tamils, and Muslims inter-marry. In my own family, there have been mixed marriages: Sinhalese with Tamils, Sinhalese with Muslims. This is Sri Lankan society…" Sri Lanka President Rajapaksa's Theory of Reconciliation: Intermarriage, 7 July 2009
Only Budda can live in sri lanka
SRI LANKA Church attacked after Sunday Mass http://www.ucanews.com/2009/12/07/church-outside-…
In chauvinist and state terror .
Hindu temple of ritual significance destroyed in Trincomalee http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&art…
Rohan,
Taking one example given by the president and trying to ridicule it showcases your intellectual level. Intermarriage is definitely one of the options and one of the better one's for a better ethnic mix for sure. I know this dearly cause I am a result of such marriage. That is the reason when you all cry out loud with particular ethnic and racist comments, I could hold my head up high and say "We are Sri Lankans"
FYI, there are other means of this mix to happen and one of the ways that we all get involved in such mix is through work environment where all people work for one organization to reach a single goal. This also happens at Church (I will get to the church matter later) and other religious institutions (as you know Buddhists do go to Kovils and there are Hindus who comes to Temples). Another would be the sporting events – Ex. Sanath, Murali, Angelo and Parvees all playing for Sri lankan Cricket team and are supported by all Sri Lankans without favouring their Ethnicity. (Gee – I feel Dumb trying to explain this to you – this is basic common sense)
Let me get to the Church matter now.
There have been several Instance in the past that Tamil Hindu's and Sinhala Buddhists have got together in attacking "Born Again" Christian Churches for unethical conversions (talk about another way to build harmony). This happened purely because of them aggravating extremist (I agree) groups. I think it is the Hindu's who need to be alarmed about this situation anyway as most conversions happen from Hindu to Christian than Buddhist to Christian. This was further aggravated when several people died after they refrained from going to hospitals but conformed to Prayer Healing. Again 4 out of 5 died were Tamil Hindus. I cannot comment on the Ja-ela matter as it was news to me. But if you really wish to, I can get more details on it and comment. However, I personally condemn such attacks by all means as I feel it is up to the priests of each religious group to ensure that their followers are educated enough on their religions to be drawn by another (even for money).
Now the war is over, the racist Sri Lankan Government is going after the minorities.
You remember the Muslims … they shoot bunch of them
And now it is the Christian’s turn
The Sri Lanka will be One Sri Lanka – for the Sinhalese only
I’ve read the GoSL and the Sri Lankan Buddhists are excusing their behavior and point out at the Catholic Church indifference in Nazi Germany, the Mussolini’s Italy, the Africa or many, many others !!!
Why is it that whenever the topic of the 300, 000 people imprisoned within the Sri Lankan concentration camps is brought to attention, narrow minded people choose to dig up the past.
Just because the Catholic Church stood by and allowed 6million jews to be exterminated by Germany , Italy and Africans were being enslaved , does not justify the actions of the Sri Lankan Army( SLA.) and horrific silence of the Buddhist monks.
Although many terrible things have happened in the past, there is no justification for this deplorable treatment of the Tamil people.
The Sri Lankan government says the Tamil Tigers have been wiped out, the war is over, and Sri Lanka is free from conflict.
But if this is true, why there are so many innocents were imprisoned.
Is the war against the Tamil Tigers, or against the Tamil people?
I hope you remember when the Sri Lankan military said they conducted the biggest hostage rescue operation.
Tell me why these people were living like hostages inside their concentration camps?
Mawathe !!
Why are the Tamil orphans not allowed to speak Tamil?
Where on earth is this happening ?? Almost all the Tamil people I know and their children are speaking in tamil and also they go to school and learn in Tamil ?? I am utterly amazed to hear this and I feel this is part of the false propaganda of yours….. There are many Hindu collages in all parts of the Island even in Colombo (as in Wella and Ratmalana where even the former LTTE child soldiers are allowed to study now) and they all do teach, learn and speak Tamil – Hey don’t lie man… This is not about lying to achieve your needs, but getting together to build a nation.
Why are the Sinhalese colonizing the Tamil Homelands?
What are these Tamil Homelands you talk about ??? This is Sri Lanka belonging to Sri Lankans. Anyone should be able to live anywhere – if you demarcate as such, Do you think that the singhlees should call Wellawatte area colonization of Singhlala Land by Tamils ?? – Don’t talk bullshit mann !!
Why is the weeding out “process not transparent ?
What weeding out process ??????
Why are the Sinhalese destroying many ancient Hindu Temples ?
Dude, only yesterday they found 39 statues of Hindu Gods belonging to a Kovil buried where a Kovil was partially destroyed by the LTTE. These were quite old (500 years) and has been recovered and the government is restoring the Kovil with the statues – So what on earth are you talking about ?? Just over a year ago, a Kovil was reconstructed in Peliyagoda (towards Kelaniya temple) with the fullest support of the government. So what is this nonsense about government destroying Kovils ??? It was your LTTE that destroyed Hindu Temples (Kovils), Muslim Mosques (Like in Kaththankudi) and Buddhist Shrines (Including the sacred Temple of tooth) – So please don’t rubbish around with your sorry attempts to mislead those who do not have proper insight to what’s happening here.
Over the past thousands of years, this battle between South Indian parties (Chola, Pandya etc) has been going on where they attack the northern part of the Island and many of the countries ancient values have been ruined. Don’t forget that Jaffna which was then called “Dambakolapatuna” was very sacred to the Singhalees as that’s where most of the sacred relic’s of Loard Buddha was brought to the country – These locations were totally destroyed by South Indians (remember there was no Ethnic group called “Tamil” till very recent – it was always Chola, Pandya, Kerala etc.) – The point I am trying to make here is that, majority have come to realize that this country belongs to all those who has any kind of ancestral roots even up to 100 years which includes the British who colonized – the world have moved forward from the mentality they had 500 years ago…. So Why are you still holding on to it ?????? The Sighala Majority (99%) has moved on, The Tamil Majority (at least 85%) has moved on – So why not you ??????????
The rebuilding effort includes all people living in the country – They are called Sri Lankans… !! R U one ??
Jim Pappa
"Taking one example given by the president and trying to ridicule it showcases your intellectual level. Intermarriage is definitely one of the options and one of the better one’s for a better ethnic mix for sure. I know this dearly cause I am a result of such marriage. That is the reason when you all cry out loud with particular ethnic and racist comments, I could hold my head up high and say “We are Sri Lankans"
****** I know this dearly cause I am a result of such marriage.******
————————————————————————————————————–
I ‘m Sure , you are 🙂
Tnambi !!
I would say read the previous post as a reply.
As mentioned there, in this planet, I don’t understand how you have demarcated a Tamil Homeland or on what grounds you have demarcated it. Is Wellawatte tamil homeland too ??? Don’t rubbish around. Learn to live as Sri lankans.
There are several ways one’s hands could get bloody. One way is when you kill some living thing another would be when you carry the wounded to safety. I trust the GOSL has got blood in there hands by trying to carry the wounded to safety. Who was responsible for the blood ?? LTTE….
Not Intermarriages– The Forced Marriages :0
Ethnic cleansing is a crime against humanity. Ethnic cleansing is about assimilating and digesting a people. It is about destroying the identity of a people, as a people. And in the case of Sri Lanka the theoretical frame was articulated with clarity in July 2009 by Sri Lanka President Mahinda Rajapaksa –
“Now, my theory is: there are no minorities in Sri Lanka, there are only those who love the country and those who don’t… For reconciliation to happen, there must be a mix [of ethnicities]. Here the Sinhalese, the Tamils, and Muslims inter-marry. In my own family, there have been mixed marriages: Sinhalese with Tamils, Sinhalese with Muslims. This is Sri Lankan society…” Sri Lanka President Rajapaksa’s Theory of Reconciliation: Intermarriage, 7 July 2009
I see that all you guys do is live in the past 😀 !!
Feel sorry for you in that sense… !!
There are no 300,000 IDP's anymore… Yes they were held hostage by the LTTE and used as human shields…. Is it wrong to have rescued them ?? If So U R LTTE…. 😀 They were sent to the camps (for the zillionth time) only to separate the Terrorists from the normal citizens.
Intermarriages does not only mean Tamil & Singhala – it could also include Burgher, Muslim, Malay, Ja etc.. Again – issue with Intellectuality I guess 🙂 !! Nothing I can do but feel sorry !!
You know the first ever citizens of this land ?? The Weddah Community ?? They have been given a separate area (though their actual livelihood were in the jungles) – They didn't even ask for it. Why ?? because, everyone understood that they need to be treated special. time you learn something from this awesome people !! (Race may I call ?)
Only Budda can live in sri lanka
SRI LANKA Church attacked after Sunday Mass
http://www.ucanews.com/2009/12/07/church-outside-capital-attacked-after-sunday-mass/
In chauvinist and state terror .
Hindu temple of ritual significance destroyed in Trincomalee
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&artid=30756
T Numb
You remember the Muslims … they shoot bunch of them
Yes very well !! I was in Kaththankudi about 2 months back and indeed saw the Mosque that was shot at by the LTTE. The bullet marks are still there. And, if you are calling 200 + Muslims killed while praying a 'Bunch" I still feel sorry for you… 200 + in my world does not mean a "Bunch" by any means.. It was a brutal attack against an Ethnic group by your most worshiped Piribaharan and the gang !!
And now it is the Christian’s turn
You mean the LTTE killing Christians ?? Yes that also did happen in the 80's… So it is not "Now it's turn" – the turn was taken long time ago !!
The Sri Lanka will be One Sri Lanka – for the Sinhalese only
Sri Lanka is for Sri Lankans – Former Helaya or Heladiva (as it was for more than 2,000 years – was mainly for Singhalees though there were barbarians from southern India (as always been) who attacked the northern peninsula.
I also wonder why you always forget to mention the attacks on Buddhist monks and Buddhist Shrines by the LTTE….. Something fishy about it – rottenly fishy !!
So is it always the GOSL or were Separatist Terrorists part of the issue that the whole country face ??
Machan – don't try to act innocent here – world is getting to know more and more about your intentions and they do not approve it. So snap off and try live a decent life – No need to feel sorry for your selves because it is not your fault. Not too late to change and move on either – have a wonderful life ahead – grab it and live it happily !!
Rohan,
Taking one example given by the president and trying to ridicule it showcases your intellectual level. Intermarriage is definitely one of the options and one of the better one’s for a better ethnic mix for sure. I know this dearly cause I am a result of such marriage. That is the reason when you all cry out loud with particular ethnic and racist comments, I could hold my head up high and say “We are Sri Lankans”
FYI, there are other means of this mix to happen and one of the ways that we all get involved in such mix is through work environment where all people work for one organization to reach a single goal. This also happens at Church (I will get to the church matter later) and other religious institutions (as you know Buddhists do go to Kovils and there are Hindus who comes to Temples). Another would be the sporting events – Ex. Sanath, Murali, Angelo and Parvees all playing for Sri lankan Cricket team and are supported by all Sri Lankans without favouring their Ethnicity. (Gee – I feel Dumb trying to explain this to you – this is basic common sense)
Let me get to the Church matter now.
There have been several Instance in the past that Tamil Hindu’s and Sinhala Buddhists have got together in attacking “Born Again” Christian Churches for unethical conversions (talk about another way to build harmony). This happened purely because of them aggravating extremist (I agree) groups. I think it is the Hindu’s who need to be alarmed about this situation anyway as most conversions happen from Hindu to Christian than Buddhist to Christian. This was further aggravated when several people died after they refrained from going to hospitals but conformed to Prayer Healing. Again 4 out of 5 died were Tamil Hindus. I cannot comment on the Ja-ela matter as it was news to me. But if you really wish to, I can get more details on it and comment. However, I personally condemn such attacks by all means as I feel it is up to the priests of each religious group to ensure that their followers are educated enough on their religions to be drawn by another (even for money).
Jim Pappa
Why so much fireworks here ? ?
Excuses, excuses and excuses ..
So, it is OK to kill the Tamils now ?
It is OK to imprison them in the concentration camps ?
It is OK to colonize their lands and enslave them ?
Even if,many terrible things have happened in the past, there is no justification for this appalling treatment of the Tamil people.
Now the war is over, the racist Sri Lankan Government is going after the minorities.
You remember the Muslims … they shoot bunch of them
And now it is the Christian’s turn
The Sri Lanka will be One Sri Lanka – for the Sinhalese only
I’ve read the GoSL and the Sri Lankan Buddhists are excusing their behavior and point out at the Catholic Church indifference in Nazi Germany, the Mussolini’s Italy, the Africa or many, many others !!!
Why is it that whenever the topic of the 300, 000 people imprisoned within the Sri Lankan concentration camps is brought to attention, narrow minded people choose to dig up the past.
Just because the Catholic Church stood by and allowed 6million jews to be exterminated by Germany , Italy and Africans were being enslaved , does not justify the actions of the Sri Lankan Army( SLA.) and horrific silence of the Buddhist monks.
Although many terrible things have happened in the past, there is no justification for this deplorable treatment of the Tamil people.
The Sri Lankan government says the Tamil Tigers have been wiped out, the war is over, and Sri Lanka is free from conflict.
But if this is true, why there are so many innocents were imprisoned.
Is the war against the Tamil Tigers, or against the Tamil people?
I hope you remember when the Sri Lankan military said they conducted the biggest hostage rescue operation.
Tell me why these people were living like hostages inside their concentration camps?
Jim Pappa
“Taking one example given by the president and trying to ridicule it showcases your intellectual level. Intermarriage is definitely one of the options and one of the better one’s for a better ethnic mix for sure. I know this dearly cause I am a result of such marriage. That is the reason when you all cry out loud with particular ethnic and racist comments, I could hold my head up high and say “We are Sri Lankans”
****** I know this dearly cause I am a result of such marriage.******
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I ‘m Sure , you are 🙂
Not Intermarriages– The Forced Marriages :0
I see that all you guys do is live in the past 😀 !!
Feel sorry for you in that sense… !!
There are no 300,000 IDP’s anymore… Yes they were held hostage by the LTTE and used as human shields…. Is it wrong to have rescued them ?? If So U R LTTE…. 😀 They were sent to the camps (for the zillionth time) only to separate the Terrorists from the normal citizens.
Intermarriages does not only mean Tamil & Singhala – it could also include Burgher, Muslim, Malay, Ja etc.. Again – issue with Intellectuality I guess 🙂 !! Nothing I can do but feel sorry !!
You know the first ever citizens of this land ?? The Weddah Community ?? They have been given a separate area (though their actual livelihood were in the jungles) – They didn’t even ask for it. Why ?? because, everyone understood that they need to be treated special. time you learn something from this awesome people !! (Race may I call ?)
T Numb
You remember the Muslims … they shoot bunch of them
Yes very well !! I was in Kaththankudi about 2 months back and indeed saw the Mosque that was shot at by the LTTE. The bullet marks are still there. And, if you are calling 200 + Muslims killed while praying a ‘Bunch” I still feel sorry for you… 200 + in my world does not mean a “Bunch” by any means.. It was a brutal attack against an Ethnic group by your most worshiped Piribaharan and the gang !!
And now it is the Christian’s turn
You mean the LTTE killing Christians ?? Yes that also did happen in the 80’s… So it is not “Now it’s turn” – the turn was taken long time ago !!
The Sri Lanka will be One Sri Lanka – for the Sinhalese only
Sri Lanka is for Sri Lankans – Former Helaya or Heladiva (as it was for more than 2,000 years – was mainly for Singhalees though there were barbarians from southern India (as always been) who attacked the northern peninsula.
I also wonder why you always forget to mention the attacks on Buddhist monks and Buddhist Shrines by the LTTE….. Something fishy about it – rottenly fishy !!
So is it always the GOSL or were Separatist Terrorists part of the issue that the whole country face ??
Machan – don’t try to act innocent here – world is getting to know more and more about your intentions and they do not approve it. So snap off and try live a decent life – No need to feel sorry for your selves because it is not your fault. Not too late to change and move on either – have a wonderful life ahead – grab it and live it happily !!
Jim Pappa
Why so much fireworks here ? ?
Excuses, excuses and excuses ..
So, it is OK to kill the Tamils now ?
It is OK to imprison them in the concentration camps ?
It is OK to colonize their lands and enslave them ?
Even if,many terrible things have happened in the past, there is no justification for this appalling treatment of the Tamil people.
Jim Pappa Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Let me get to the Church matter now.
Churches damaged/destroyed by Aerial bombing and shelling in the North of Sri Lanka http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/610
T Numb !!
Why so much fireworks here ? ?
Where ???????? Fire works are over mate !! Was more than 6 months back 🙂 !
Excuses, excuses and excuses ..
Ane – please give me one example of a single excuse I gave – Please – I don't recall any !! Please highlight them – Please 😉 !!
So, it is OK to kill the Tamils now ?
Again – please tell me where I have mentioned such thing … Please !! 😉 !!
It is OK to imprison them in the concentration camps ?
Ane – please tell me where I have mentioned such thing again !!!
May be that negative IQ of yours is playing up and the immediate necessity has been misinterpreted by your brain as a permanent solution. But, then again, since you were involved in this forum for some time now, I expect you to have got the holistic picture by now…
It is OK to colonize their lands and enslave them ?
Their Land / My Land/your Land/ Our Land/ – all land is Sri Lanka Land belonging to Sri Lankans….. I think I gave you a good example in Wellawatte Land… Tell me which part you don't understand please 🙂 🙂 😀 😉 !!
All in all, in all your posts, I only see a pathetic effort to justify Priribaharans Terror acts !!
Jim Pappa Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Let me get to the Church matter now.
Churches damaged/destroyed by Aerial bombing and shelling in the North of Sri Lanka http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/610
Rohan !!
Churches damaged/destroyed by Aerial bombing and shelling in the North of Sri Lanka
What do U expect in a war situation when you get a bunch of none-religious barbarians use these sacred religious locations as their shelter ??? Did you see on any instance Sri Lanka army seeking cover in any kind of religious institution or using them to fire mortar at the LTTE ?????? Even your covertly leader Piribaharan hid inside a church during Wadamarachchi and Vanni battle.
Try to prove that the SLA deliberately planned and fired at a location that did not house LTTE carders with malicious intent like the ones your great fat bastard piribaharan did at Kaththankudi Mosque, Aranthalawa Shrine and Temple of tooth (out of many) …
It is the Terrorists that chased out the divine spirits that were housed in these holy shrines and made them Bunkers instead of Churches. You don't even see the Taliban using such cheap tactics which goes on to show the levels of your mentality and the levels you have stooped down, only to save a few sorry asses… 🙂
T Numb !!
Why so much fireworks here ? ?
Where ???????? Fire works are over mate !! Was more than 6 months back 🙂 !
Excuses, excuses and excuses ..
Ane – please give me one example of a single excuse I gave – Please – I don’t recall any !! Please highlight them – Please 😉 !!
So, it is OK to kill the Tamils now ?
Again – please tell me where I have mentioned such thing … Please !! 😉 !!
It is OK to imprison them in the concentration camps ?
Ane – please tell me where I have mentioned such thing again !!!
May be that negative IQ of yours is playing up and the immediate necessity has been misinterpreted by your brain as a permanent solution. But, then again, since you were involved in this forum for some time now, I expect you to have got the holistic picture by now…
It is OK to colonize their lands and enslave them ?
Their Land / My Land/your Land/ Our Land/ – all land is Sri Lanka Land belonging to Sri Lankans….. I think I gave you a good example in Wellawatte Land… Tell me which part you don’t understand please 🙂 🙂 😀 😉 !!
All in all, in all your posts, I only see a pathetic effort to justify Priribaharans Terror acts !!
Jim Pappa Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Let me get to the Church matter now.
Churches damaged/destroyed by Aerial bombing and shelling in the North of Sri Lanka
http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/610
Rohan !!
Churches damaged/destroyed by Aerial bombing and shelling in the North of Sri Lanka
What do U expect in a war situation when you get a bunch of none-religious barbarians use these sacred religious locations as their shelter ??? Did you see on any instance Sri Lanka army seeking cover in any kind of religious institution or using them to fire mortar at the LTTE ?????? Even your covertly leader Piribaharan hid inside a church during Wadamarachchi and Vanni battle.
Try to prove that the SLA deliberately planned and fired at a location that did not house LTTE carders with malicious intent like the ones your great fat bastard piribaharan did at Kaththankudi Mosque, Aranthalawa Shrine and Temple of tooth (out of many) …
It is the Terrorists that chased out the divine spirits that were housed in these holy shrines and made them Bunkers instead of Churches. You don’t even see the Taliban using such cheap tactics which goes on to show the levels of your mentality and the levels you have stooped down, only to save a few sorry asses… 🙂
See papa religious barbarians hide in the name of budda, destroy churches
Sinhala Buddhist Ethno Nationalism & Sinhalese Chuvanism http://www.nowpublic.com/world/sinhala-buddhist-e…
See papa religious barbarians hide in the name of budda, destroy churches
Sinhala Buddhist Ethno Nationalism & Sinhalese Chuvanism http://www.nowpublic.com/world/sinhala-buddhist-e…
See papa religious barbarians hide in the name of budda, destroy churches
Sinhala Buddhist Ethno Nationalism & Sinhalese Chuvanism
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/sinhala-buddhist-ethno-nationalism-sinhalese-chuvanism
Jim Pappa,
u can make any story & write anything, that is the freedon u enjoy in the western world, but in sin hell a, the fact is, SINHALA BUDDHIST ETHNO nationalism http://www.tamilnation.org/tamileelam/fundamental…
do u think Sinhella buddhism is an religion in SL, no, it is terrorism, sponsored by state, that STATE TERRORISM.
Jim Pappa,
u can make any story & write anything, that is the freedon u enjoy in the western world, but in sin hell a, the fact is, SINHALA BUDDHIST ETHNO nationalism http://www.tamilnation.org/tamileelam/fundamental…
do u think Sinhella buddhism is an religion in SL, no, it is terrorism, sponsored by state, that STATE TERRORISM.
Today, AIUSA testified at a Congressional hearing about the IDPs in Sri Lanka – http://www.amnestyusa.org/documents/AIUSA_sri_lan…
Today, AIUSA testified at a Congressional hearing about the IDPs in Sri Lanka – http://www.amnestyusa.org/documents/AIUSA_sri_lan…
Jim Pappa,
u can make any story & write anything, that is the freedon u enjoy in the western world, but in sin hell a, the fact is, SINHALA BUDDHIST ETHNO nationalism
http://www.tamilnation.org/tamileelam/fundamentalism/index.htm
do u think Sinhella buddhism is an religion in SL, no, it is terrorism, sponsored by state, that STATE TERRORISM.
Jim Pappa Says:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:47 am
Attack on innocent muslim brothers, Kaththankudi Mosque http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/how-did-sri-lanka…
Hon. Minister/ruling party's vice president resposible?
I don't understand how you justify the SLA attacks on church, take one church
Navali Massacre: St.Peters Church in Navaly bombed with refugees inside http://www.tamilnation.org/indictment/genocide95/…
Having dropped leaflets asking the people to move to places of worship the Sri Lanka air force there after attacked the places of worship where Tamil civilians had sought refuge.
In Hell !
Let me challenge you !!
When you say "u can make any story & write anything, that is the freedon u enjoy" do you agree that I make sense ?????
I don't see you counter arguing with me – any of you which I feel is a cowardly act and following your fatty Piribaharan….
You put forward some bogus link and when I comment, instead of counter attacking me, you try to bring in a different subject – Why all these cowardliness ?
Try answer me for a change !!! – If not you it will prove more that you have a different agenda !
Dear Jim MD,
Good to be writing to you again as I was kind of getting tired of replying to bogus, baseless, false claims from the LTTE.
As much as I appreciate you guys trying to keep us informed of the activities you carry out opposing the IDP situation, I would love to see some articles that would prove your unbiased attitude too.
Say for example, if we stick this the subject of US government's point of view on the IDP situation, recently, senator John Kerry has mentioned the importance of SL also Robert Blake has praised the efforts of the GOSL on the case of the IDP's. India is 100% behind the GOSL and has made several statements. Etc…
Why not we talk of them too ??? After all, AI should be unbiased and as citizens of the world, we expect that from you.
Jim Pappa Says:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:47 am
Attack on innocent muslim brothers, Kaththankudi Mosque http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/how-did-sri-lanka…
Hon. Minister/ruling party's vice president resposible?
I don't understand how you justify the SLA attacks on church, take one church
Navali Massacre: St.Peters Church in Navaly bombed with refugees inside http://www.tamilnation.org/indictment/genocide95/…
Having dropped leaflets asking the people to move to places of worship the Sri Lanka air force there after attacked the places of worship where Tamil civilians had sought refuge.
Hello there Rohan !!
Indeed the Kaththankudi case – masterminded by Piribaharan and his followers had to act upon. However, some of the followers were at least brainy enough to realize the stupidity and get out of it once they matured – What happened to you ??
Having dropped leaflets to the civilians, the GOSL never expected the LTTE to get in to these churches and start firing rockets and mortar at the forces. GOSL had more respect to the LTTE thinking that they were true fighters and not cowards only to realize that the people were kept out and the LTTE went inside the religious institutes. In what mind could a religious soul fix arms and missiles inside the very institute he/she worships his/her god ?? I call them cowards – what about you ?
Today, AIUSA testified at a Congressional hearing about the IDPs in Sri Lanka – http://www.amnestyusa.org/documents/AIUSA_sri_lanka_testimony.pdf
In Hell !
Let me challenge you !!
When you say “u can make any story & write anything, that is the freedon u enjoy” do you agree that I make sense ?????
I don’t see you counter arguing with me – any of you which I feel is a cowardly act and following your fatty Piribaharan….
You put forward some bogus link and when I comment, instead of counter attacking me, you try to bring in a different subject – Why all these cowardliness ?
Try answer me for a change !!! – If not you it will prove more that you have a different agenda !
Dear Jim MD,
Good to be writing to you again as I was kind of getting tired of replying to bogus, baseless, false claims from the LTTE.
As much as I appreciate you guys trying to keep us informed of the activities you carry out opposing the IDP situation, I would love to see some articles that would prove your unbiased attitude too.
Say for example, if we stick this the subject of US government’s point of view on the IDP situation, recently, senator John Kerry has mentioned the importance of SL also Robert Blake has praised the efforts of the GOSL on the case of the IDP’s. India is 100% behind the GOSL and has made several statements. Etc…
Why not we talk of them too ??? After all, AI should be unbiased and as citizens of the world, we expect that from you.
Jim Pappa Says:
December 10th, 2009 at 12:47 am
Attack on innocent muslim brothers, Kaththankudi Mosque
http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/how-did-sri-lanka-end-up-in-this-crisis/#comment-4293
Hon. Minister/ruling party’s vice president resposible?
I don’t understand how you justify the SLA attacks on church, take one church
Navali Massacre: St.Peters Church in Navaly bombed with refugees inside
http://www.tamilnation.org/indictment/genocide95/gen95012.htm
Having dropped leaflets asking the people to move to places of worship the Sri Lanka air force there after attacked the places of worship where Tamil civilians had sought refuge.
Palitha Kohona’d be prosecuted for war crimes in Australia
In light of accusations laid out by a US State Department report to Congress on possible war crimes carried out by the Sri Lankan armed forces, diplomatic immunity should be wavered and investigations carried out on the role played by Australian dual citizen and former Sri Lankan Foreign Secretary Palitha Kohona in the execution of LTTE Political heads B. Nadesan and the Director of LTTE's Peace Secretariat S. Puleedevan
Dr Kohona is a dual Australian-Sri Lankan citizen. The fact that he is an Australian citizen automatically activates obligations for Australia to investigate this matter at the legal level, but the fact that he was a former high-profile official for the Australian Government representing Australia in international negotiations, I think perhaps places an even stronger responsibility on Australia to at least conduct the initial investigations into this matter.
US State Department report to Congress stated that: "the leaders, Nadesan and Puleedevan, spoke to international and domestic figures, who acted as intermediaries with the then foreign secretary, Dr Palitha Kohona, to negotiate surrender. Nadesan requested a UN witness but was told he had the Sri Lankan President's guarantee of safety".
Yes, I think the Palitha Kohona is a War Criminal.
In the last days of the civil war, it is alleged two political leaders of the rebel Tamil Tiger fighters were killed as they tried to lay down their arms and surrender.
The men led about a dozen men and women under a white flag to waiting Sri Lankan army troops.
A Tamil eyewitness said the soldiers fired on them with machine guns. Everyone in the group was killed.
When asked what his role was in arranging the surrender, Kohona told:
"I don't think anybody else was involved in such a surrender either.
"There was an attempt to wake me up in the middle of the night, and I told them that I was not the person to contact about those demands.
"There was a general query about surrendering and I told them that I was the wrong person, that I had nothing to do with surrendering and asked them to go and deal with the matter in the way it ought to be dealt with."
Three weeks after the shooting, Sri Lanka's army chief General Sarath Fonseka was reported as saying the military had to overlook traditional rules of war and kill Tamil Tiger rebels who had come under white flags to surrender.
Hello there Rohan !!
Indeed the Kaththankudi case – masterminded by Piribaharan and his followers had to act upon. However, some of the followers were at least brainy enough to realize the stupidity and get out of it once they matured – What happened to you ??
Having dropped leaflets to the civilians, the GOSL never expected the LTTE to get in to these churches and start firing rockets and mortar at the forces. GOSL had more respect to the LTTE thinking that they were true fighters and not cowards only to realize that the people were kept out and the LTTE went inside the religious institutes. In what mind could a religious soul fix arms and missiles inside the very institute he/she worships his/her god ?? I call them cowards – what about you ?
LOL – Ha Ha Ha @ Both of you !!
Now we know for sure where you guys are coming from !!
You guys are seriously LTTE !!!!!!!
Shame on you – how could you sleep at night after killing so many innocent people and creating chaos in this once (and now) peaceful island ?? At least tell me why you killed an Honorable decent man like Lakshman Kadiragamar who was a Tamil himself ?? He was such a nice Gentleman and the whole world would agree with me on that.
AI – at least now you should know whom you stand for – Terrorists with ulterior motives or Legally elected democratic governments that stands for their citizens.
Sinhalese only for the Tamil students in Jaffna
A "national" event of issuing free text books and school uniforms to students in Jaffna was held entirely in Sinhalese Wednesday in Jaffna Veampadi Girls’ College.
Sri Lankan Minister of Education Susil Premajayantha, SL Media Minister Anura Priyadharshana Yapa, Deputy Education Minister Nirmala Kotalawela, Deputy Education Minister Sachithananthan and EPDP leader and Minister Douglas Devananda were present at the event in which Education ministers spoke in Sinhalese to the students who understood nothing of what was being said.
T Numb !
I still feel that you don't even try to appreciate the fact that the Government is trying their best to provide stuff for the people in Jaffna ha ??
I think the underlying factor of the article is that the Government of Sri Lanka Gave away Free Books and Uniforms to the innocent children. the west would not have even heard of distribution of free items to students of any caliber.
I doubt whether the Hon. Minister would himself know how to communicate in Tamil. Even the president tried very hard to do so by getting his Tamil speeches written in Singhala for delivery. I trust these are efforts that should be commended and condemned. This shows the lack of gratitude you have for those who try to support you. When will you learn your manners – now the west definitely understands this as they are people who value these kind of offerings and do commend them.
What you probably forgot to mention here or conveniently forgot as your intentions were to ridicule a good deed was that there were translators for the benefit of those who did not understand Sinhala. However, it is known fact that 99% of all Sri Lankans understand Singhales immaterial of Ethnic divide.
All in all – another pathetic attempt of the LTTE diaspora to ridicule the GOSL that failed miserably 🙂 !!
P.S. – I trust Hon. Minister Douglas Devananda who is a Tamil himself (Whom you tried to kill in many as 5 attempts and failed miserably) would have done the needful for the benefit of the Students who do not understand Singhala.
Jim Pappa
Don’t blame the Tamil combatants, for everything.
Don’t you see Sri Lanka is falling apart in front of your eyes ?
Let’s start from the human rights fiasco.
Sadly the human rights has become a non-word in official circles in Sri Lanka because of its universality and wide non-applicability in the absence of the ‘rule of law’.
As a result anything goes with regard to human rights.
The degradation of human rights over the past 35 years has been progressive and reached epic total proportions at the present time.
It is well known that politics has trumped all laws and norms.
Even in wars there are accepted international rules under the Geneva Conventions which had been ratified by Sri Lanka too.
Not so for Sri Lanka today .
Why?
Is it because of ethnic and religious reasons which underlies the perverse conduct of the internal war based on failed political governance anyway?
Those who question wrong doing have to live in mortal fear of being abducted, tortured or murdered?
And not even give vent to public outcry on pain of being incarcerated or killed?
That is overt sadism.
Palitha Kohona’d be prosecuted for war crimes in Australia
In light of accusations laid out by a US State Department report to Congress on possible war crimes carried out by the Sri Lankan armed forces, diplomatic immunity should be wavered and investigations carried out on the role played by Australian dual citizen and former Sri Lankan Foreign Secretary Palitha Kohona in the execution of LTTE Political heads B. Nadesan and the Director of LTTE’s Peace Secretariat S. Puleedevan
Dr Kohona is a dual Australian-Sri Lankan citizen. The fact that he is an Australian citizen automatically activates obligations for Australia to investigate this matter at the legal level, but the fact that he was a former high-profile official for the Australian Government representing Australia in international negotiations, I think perhaps places an even stronger responsibility on Australia to at least conduct the initial investigations into this matter.
US State Department report to Congress stated that: “the leaders, Nadesan and Puleedevan, spoke to international and domestic figures, who acted as intermediaries with the then foreign secretary, Dr Palitha Kohona, to negotiate surrender. Nadesan requested a UN witness but was told he had the Sri Lankan President’s guarantee of safety”.
Yes, I think the Palitha Kohona is a War Criminal.
In the last days of the civil war, it is alleged two political leaders of the rebel Tamil Tiger fighters were killed as they tried to lay down their arms and surrender.
The men led about a dozen men and women under a white flag to waiting Sri Lankan army troops.
A Tamil eyewitness said the soldiers fired on them with machine guns. Everyone in the group was killed.
When asked what his role was in arranging the surrender, Kohona told:
“I don’t think anybody else was involved in such a surrender either.
“There was an attempt to wake me up in the middle of the night, and I told them that I was not the person to contact about those demands.
“There was a general query about surrendering and I told them that I was the wrong person, that I had nothing to do with surrendering and asked them to go and deal with the matter in the way it ought to be dealt with.”
Three weeks after the shooting, Sri Lanka’s army chief General Sarath Fonseka was reported as saying the military had to overlook traditional rules of war and kill Tamil Tiger rebels who had come under white flags to surrender.
LOL – Ha Ha Ha @ Both of you !!
Now we know for sure where you guys are coming from !!
You guys are seriously LTTE !!!!!!!
Shame on you – how could you sleep at night after killing so many innocent people and creating chaos in this once (and now) peaceful island ?? At least tell me why you killed an Honorable decent man like Lakshman Kadiragamar who was a Tamil himself ?? He was such a nice Gentleman and the whole world would agree with me on that.
AI – at least now you should know whom you stand for – Terrorists with ulterior motives or Legally elected democratic governments that stands for their citizens.
Sinhalese only for the Tamil students in Jaffna
A “national” event of issuing free text books and school uniforms to students in Jaffna was held entirely in Sinhalese Wednesday in Jaffna Veampadi Girls’ College.
Sri Lankan Minister of Education Susil Premajayantha, SL Media Minister Anura Priyadharshana Yapa, Deputy Education Minister Nirmala Kotalawela, Deputy Education Minister Sachithananthan and EPDP leader and Minister Douglas Devananda were present at the event in which Education ministers spoke in Sinhalese to the students who understood nothing of what was being said.
T Numb !
I still feel that you don’t even try to appreciate the fact that the Government is trying their best to provide stuff for the people in Jaffna ha ??
I think the underlying factor of the article is that the Government of Sri Lanka Gave away Free Books and Uniforms to the innocent children. the west would not have even heard of distribution of free items to students of any caliber.
I doubt whether the Hon. Minister would himself know how to communicate in Tamil. Even the president tried very hard to do so by getting his Tamil speeches written in Singhala for delivery. I trust these are efforts that should be commended and condemned. This shows the lack of gratitude you have for those who try to support you. When will you learn your manners – now the west definitely understands this as they are people who value these kind of offerings and do commend them.
What you probably forgot to mention here or conveniently forgot as your intentions were to ridicule a good deed was that there were translators for the benefit of those who did not understand Sinhala. However, it is known fact that 99% of all Sri Lankans understand Singhales immaterial of Ethnic divide.
All in all – another pathetic attempt of the LTTE diaspora to ridicule the GOSL that failed miserably 🙂 !!
P.S. – I trust Hon. Minister Douglas Devananda who is a Tamil himself (Whom you tried to kill in many as 5 attempts and failed miserably) would have done the needful for the benefit of the Students who do not understand Singhala.
Jim Pappa
Don’t blame the Tamil combatants, for everything.
Don’t you see Sri Lanka is falling apart in front of your eyes ?
Let’s start from the human rights fiasco.
Sadly the human rights has become a non-word in official circles in Sri Lanka because of its universality and wide non-applicability in the absence of the ‘rule of law’.
As a result anything goes with regard to human rights.
The degradation of human rights over the past 35 years has been progressive and reached epic total proportions at the present time.
It is well known that politics has trumped all laws and norms.
Even in wars there are accepted international rules under the Geneva Conventions which had been ratified by Sri Lanka too.
Not so for Sri Lanka today .
Why?
Is it because of ethnic and religious reasons which underlies the perverse conduct of the internal war based on failed political governance anyway?
Those who question wrong doing have to live in mortal fear of being abducted, tortured or murdered?
And not even give vent to public outcry on pain of being incarcerated or killed?
That is overt sadism.
Jim Pappa
Why so jolly !!
You are playing the same record over and over again and all pure fantasy.
Mahinda’s pandangkaraya has been given a biscuit to endorse his master verbatim ? 🙁
Tnambi
this propaganda papa is big story teller/lier. Take him as a joker. He try to block AIUSA posting anymore blog on Human right violation under sri lanka.
Sin Hell
You are right 🙂
When you read his posts, you deduct that SL doing nothing wrong !!
EVER ?!?!
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 10, 10:48 P.M., I've mentioned, in my subsequent comments to this and other blog entries, articles or statements that I thought were relevant to the issues raised in my original posts. I've highlighted statements both from critics of the Sri Lankan government as well as statements by the Sri Lankan government, in each case that were relevant to the issues raised initially. If there have been other statements made by officials from other governments that are relevant to the issues raised initially, I'd have no objection to having them mentioned in a comment. But I don't necessarily see every comment made by every official and don't think it's my responsibility to highlight every one that could be mentioned.
Jim Pappa
Why so jolly !!
You are playing the same record over and over again and all pure fantasy.
Mahinda’s pandangkaraya has been given a biscuit to endorse his master verbatim ? 🙁
Tnambi
this propaganda papa is big story teller/lier. Take him as a joker. He try to block AIUSA posting anymore blog on Human right violation under sri lanka.
Sin Hell
You are right 🙂
When you read his posts, you deduct that SL doing nothing wrong !!
EVER ?!?!
In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Dec. 10, 10:48 P.M., I’ve mentioned, in my subsequent comments to this and other blog entries, articles or statements that I thought were relevant to the issues raised in my original posts. I’ve highlighted statements both from critics of the Sri Lankan government as well as statements by the Sri Lankan government, in each case that were relevant to the issues raised initially. If there have been other statements made by officials from other governments that are relevant to the issues raised initially, I’d have no objection to having them mentioned in a comment. But I don’t necessarily see every comment made by every official and don’t think it’s my responsibility to highlight every one that could be mentioned.
jim pappa, from your comments
It looks you mastermind the state terror in sri lanka, u are the adviser to "Sri lanka has been ruled by 4 Ruthless Brothers Mahinda, Don Alwin, Basil ,Gotabhaya Rajapaksa" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORNtf6sNynY&fe…
sri lanka is a family business, is it right pappa?
pappa! what happend to this tamil doctor, tell a story about him too http://www.lakbimanews.lk/archvi/lakbimanews_09_1…
Pappa, u said u r in SL, are u going to vote 4 rajapa../fosega/whoever kill more Tamils. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM…
pappa,pl one more story before bed.
jim pappa, from your comments
It looks you mastermind the state terror in sri lanka, u are the adviser to "Sri lanka has been ruled by 4 Ruthless Brothers Mahinda, Don Alwin, Basil ,Gotabhaya Rajapaksa" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORNtf6sNynY&fe…
sri lanka is a family business, is it right pappa?
pappa! what happend to this tamil doctor, tell a story about him too http://www.lakbimanews.lk/archvi/lakbimanews_09_1…
Pappa, u said u r in SL, are u going to vote 4 rajapa../fosega/whoever kill more Tamils. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM…
pappa,pl one more story before bed.
jim pappa, from your comments
It looks you mastermind the state terror in sri lanka, u are the adviser to “Sri lanka has been ruled by 4 Ruthless Brothers Mahinda, Don Alwin, Basil ,Gotabhaya Rajapaksa”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORNtf6sNynY&feature=related
sri lanka is a family business, is it right pappa?
pappa! what happend to this tamil doctor, tell a story about him too
http://www.lakbimanews.lk/archvi/lakbimanews_09_12_06/special/spe10.htm
Pappa, u said u r in SL, are u going to vote 4 rajapa../fosega/whoever kill more Tamils.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g_9sW41cv-HCtKEEn7SIzXK3kQWQD9CH2LL80
pappa,pl one more story before bed.
Those who respect the Humanity must see, The truths are coming out
General Fonseka speaks on the killings of the LTTE’s Pulidevan, Nadeson and Ramesh
Common opposition candidate General Sarath Fonseka says Defense Secretary Gothabaya Rajapaksa instructed a key ground commander in the north that all LTTE leaders must be killed and not allowed to surrender.
Fonseka charged that communications were instead confined between the LTTE leaders, Norway, various foreign parties, Basil Rajapaksa, Member of Parliament and the powerful senior adviser to the President and such information was never conveyed to him as he supervised the final stages of the war. “Later, I learnt that Basil had conveyed this information to the Defense Secretary Gothabaya Rajapaksa – who in turn spoke with Brigadier Shavendra Silva, Commander of the Army’s 58th Division, giving orders not to accommodate any LTTE leaders attempting surrender and that “they must all be killed.”
http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2009/12/13/%E2%80%9…
Those who respect the Humanity must see, The truths are coming out
General Fonseka speaks on the killings of the LTTE’s Pulidevan, Nadeson and Ramesh
Common opposition candidate General Sarath Fonseka says Defense Secretary Gothabaya Rajapaksa instructed a key ground commander in the north that all LTTE leaders must be killed and not allowed to surrender.
Fonseka charged that communications were instead confined between the LTTE leaders, Norway, various foreign parties, Basil Rajapaksa, Member of Parliament and the powerful senior adviser to the President and such information was never conveyed to him as he supervised the final stages of the war. “Later, I learnt that Basil had conveyed this information to the Defense Secretary Gothabaya Rajapaksa – who in turn spoke with Brigadier Shavendra Silva, Commander of the Army’s 58th Division, giving orders not to accommodate any LTTE leaders attempting surrender and that “they must all be killed.”
http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2009/12/13/%E2%80%9…
Those who respect the Humanity must see, The truths are coming out
General Fonseka speaks on the killings of the LTTE’s Pulidevan, Nadeson and Ramesh
Common opposition candidate General Sarath Fonseka says Defense Secretary Gothabaya Rajapaksa instructed a key ground commander in the north that all LTTE leaders must be killed and not allowed to surrender.
Fonseka charged that communications were instead confined between the LTTE leaders, Norway, various foreign parties, Basil Rajapaksa, Member of Parliament and the powerful senior adviser to the President and such information was never conveyed to him as he supervised the final stages of the war. “Later, I learnt that Basil had conveyed this information to the Defense Secretary Gothabaya Rajapaksa – who in turn spoke with Brigadier Shavendra Silva, Commander of the Army’s 58th Division, giving orders not to accommodate any LTTE leaders attempting surrender and that “they must all be killed.”
http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2009/12/13/%E2%80%9Cgota-ordered-them-to-be-shot%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%93-general-sarath-fonseka/
President's Brother, US green card holder order to kill Tamils?
'Defence secretary ordered war crimes' say Fonseka http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/12/0…
President's Brother, US green card holder order to kill Tamils?
'Defence secretary ordered war crimes' say Fonseka http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/12/0…
President’s Brother, US green card holder order to kill Tamils?
‘Defence secretary ordered war crimes’ say Fonseka
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/12/091213_fonseka.shtml
It is again and again proved that sri lanka still lieing to the world, Can AI voice for the international investigation?
Sri Lankan war crimes video is authentic, Times investigation finds http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/…
Gee – So many questions posted at me 🙂 🙂 🙂 !!
Let me start with Jim as it is easier to converse with him.
Jim – I do understand that you are not bound to post every thing that is related to a subject. But, sometimes, when you don't talk of Pro's and cons, it sounds Biased. AI cannot do that. This is the reason I say that you need to show the balance in your postings. Do you agree ?????
Others – I am telling the same things over and over because you are asking the same questions over and over 😀 Simple ha ??
Silva – you got some nerve to tell not to blame the LTTE for everything – You want me to agree with a Terrorist group ?? You might be able to but I don't want to be associated with such Barbarians. No matter how much you try to bring up a HR issue in Sri Lanka, there is no such issue – those who live here know it and they do live happily – the sad thing is that the people who do not live in SL are those who talk of HR issues here – Very surprising.. !!
Also from your previous posts, it has been pretty obvious that you guys are not supporters, but members of the LTTE – So why do I try to justify anything with a Barbarian group ? Have you answered any question posted by me or Mango or Vichara or anyone opposing you for that matter ??
Personally, I don't see why Nadesan or anyone you mentioned should live after all the blood they have shed (Including Tamils) Do you think that Bin Laden will be spared by the US army if he comes out with his white underwear waving ?? Someone really should be stupid to do so. However, General Fonseka has mentioned that the press has misinterpreted what he said and there was no such ordering by anyone.
As per my vote – 😀 Rohan – I intend to draw an elephant on my voting card and put a cross in front as I am a UNPer. I am quite pissed with my party for not having a candidate – and as mentioned before, it has nothing to do with a race or ethnic group 🙂 See i did not kill Tamils or Singhales or anyone for that matter – it is the LTTE who killed people who opposed – and by the looks of some of your posts, you are one – So, what ever vote you make, will be for killing Tamils I guess… 😀 😀 😀 – Cheers !!
It is again and again proved that sri lanka still lieing to the world, Can AI voice for the international investigation?
Sri Lankan war crimes video is authentic, Times investigation finds http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/…
Rohan – You seriously want the world to think that Singhales are a bunch of people with Scratchy Anuses to kill all Tamils that come in front of them noh ???
The world knows the truth man, so stop it or it's you who look ridiculous trying to do so. The whole world knows that there are many ministers even in the government and it is the LTTE who killed a world renowned Tamil politician like Laksman K. You sound hideous and more suitable to be a clown. The others supporting you are also in the same boat – so, before calling others Jokers, look deep in to the efforts that you put in to show as if you are such intellectuals – If you go back a several posts, you will see how I have questioned your intellectual abilities – So better know your limits in that sense… 😀
Pappa banda,
don't Q about my abilities, stop barking lies 4 terror state.
Sri Lankan government killed surrendering Tamil Tigers, says general http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/14/srila…
Before the election these war criminals are going to vomit more truth
Pappa banda
I don't need to tell any story, media all over the world tell what u did to Tamil over 61 years of Racist babarian rule.
Sri Lanka President 'war criminal', try him: Tamils http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sri-lanka-president-wa…
Pappa banda,
don't Q about my abilities, stop barking lies 4 terror state.
Sri Lankan government killed surrendering Tamil Tigers, says general http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/14/srila…
Before the election these war criminals are going to vomit more truth
Rohan !!
Don't try to be smart cause you are dumb… Stop lying and supporting a Terrorist group that killed many Tamils. Your agenda is different and you lie to achieve it.
Tamil leaders Surrender ????? it was Terrorists who did not Surrender – this shows that it was your leaders who were shot because only you call them leaders – meaning you are a terrorist – you have blood in your body and soul ! Go cleanse your self your Barbarian !!
Pappa banda
I don't need to tell any story, media all over the world tell what u did to Tamil over 61 years of Racist babarian rule.
Sri Lanka President 'war criminal', try him: Tamils http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sri-lanka-president-wa…
Gee – So many questions posted at me 🙂 🙂 🙂 !!
Let me start with Jim as it is easier to converse with him.
Jim – I do understand that you are not bound to post every thing that is related to a subject. But, sometimes, when you don’t talk of Pro’s and cons, it sounds Biased. AI cannot do that. This is the reason I say that you need to show the balance in your postings. Do you agree ?????
Others – I am telling the same things over and over because you are asking the same questions over and over 😀 Simple ha ??
Silva – you got some nerve to tell not to blame the LTTE for everything – You want me to agree with a Terrorist group ?? You might be able to but I don’t want to be associated with such Barbarians. No matter how much you try to bring up a HR issue in Sri Lanka, there is no such issue – those who live here know it and they do live happily – the sad thing is that the people who do not live in SL are those who talk of HR issues here – Very surprising.. !!
Also from your previous posts, it has been pretty obvious that you guys are not supporters, but members of the LTTE – So why do I try to justify anything with a Barbarian group ? Have you answered any question posted by me or Mango or Vichara or anyone opposing you for that matter ??
Personally, I don’t see why Nadesan or anyone you mentioned should live after all the blood they have shed (Including Tamils) Do you think that Bin Laden will be spared by the US army if he comes out with his white underwear waving ?? Someone really should be stupid to do so. However, General Fonseka has mentioned that the press has misinterpreted what he said and there was no such ordering by anyone.
As per my vote – 😀 Rohan – I intend to draw an elephant on my voting card and put a cross in front as I am a UNPer. I am quite pissed with my party for not having a candidate – and as mentioned before, it has nothing to do with a race or ethnic group 🙂 See i did not kill Tamils or Singhales or anyone for that matter – it is the LTTE who killed people who opposed – and by the looks of some of your posts, you are one – So, what ever vote you make, will be for killing Tamils I guess… 😀 😀 😀 – Cheers !!
It is again and again proved that sri lanka still lieing to the world, Can AI voice for the international investigation?
Sri Lankan war crimes video is authentic, Times investigation finds
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6956569.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093
Rohan – You seriously want the world to think that Singhales are a bunch of people with Scratchy Anuses to kill all Tamils that come in front of them noh ???
The world knows the truth man, so stop it or it’s you who look ridiculous trying to do so. The whole world knows that there are many ministers even in the government and it is the LTTE who killed a world renowned Tamil politician like Laksman K. You sound hideous and more suitable to be a clown. The others supporting you are also in the same boat – so, before calling others Jokers, look deep in to the efforts that you put in to show as if you are such intellectuals – If you go back a several posts, you will see how I have questioned your intellectual abilities – So better know your limits in that sense… 😀
Pappa banda,
don’t Q about my abilities, stop barking lies 4 terror state.
Sri Lankan government killed surrendering Tamil Tigers, says general
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/14/srilanka-tamil-leaders-surrender-shot
Before the election these war criminals are going to vomit more truth
Rohan !!
Don’t try to be smart cause you are dumb… Stop lying and supporting a Terrorist group that killed many Tamils. Your agenda is different and you lie to achieve it.
Tamil leaders Surrender ????? it was Terrorists who did not Surrender – this shows that it was your leaders who were shot because only you call them leaders – meaning you are a terrorist – you have blood in your body and soul ! Go cleanse your self your Barbarian !!
Pappa banda
I don’t need to tell any story, media all over the world tell what u did to Tamil over 61 years of Racist babarian rule.
Sri Lanka President ‘war criminal’, try him: Tamils
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sri-lanka-president-war-criminal-try-him-tamils/107082-2.html
In response to several comments above, please review the Terms of Use for this site. Comments that are abusive, defamatory or otherwise offensive do not belong here; those persisting in posting such comments may be restricted from commenting.
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 14, 11:20 P.M., AI has shown its lack of bias by criticizing abuses by both sides in Sri Lanka. I don't agree that it's necessary for AI to demonstrate a lack of bias by praising a violator of human rights, when that party does something right, as often as we criticize that party. Or by mentioning positive comments about that party as often as we mention criticisms.
Those reading this comment may be interested in viewing a CNN interview of Ambassador Palitha Kohona and others which relates to the IDPs in the camps, among other topics – http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/12/14/sri-l…
In response to several comments above, please review the Terms of Use for this site. Comments that are abusive, defamatory or otherwise offensive do not belong here; those persisting in posting such comments may be restricted from commenting.
In response to Jim Pappa's comment of Dec. 14, 11:20 P.M., AI has shown its lack of bias by criticizing abuses by both sides in Sri Lanka. I don't agree that it's necessary for AI to demonstrate a lack of bias by praising a violator of human rights, when that party does something right, as often as we criticize that party. Or by mentioning positive comments about that party as often as we mention criticisms.
Those reading this comment may be interested in viewing a CNN interview of Ambassador Palitha Kohona and others which relates to the IDPs in the camps, among other topics – http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/12/14/sri-l…
seasonal rainfall expected, IDPs are suffering again
Heavy floods in East, 3 killed, IDP camps under water http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
In response to several comments above, please review the Terms of Use for this site. Comments that are abusive, defamatory or otherwise offensive do not belong here; those persisting in posting such comments may be restricted from commenting.
In response to Jim Pappa’s comment of Dec. 14, 11:20 P.M., AI has shown its lack of bias by criticizing abuses by both sides in Sri Lanka. I don’t agree that it’s necessary for AI to demonstrate a lack of bias by praising a violator of human rights, when that party does something right, as often as we criticize that party. Or by mentioning positive comments about that party as often as we mention criticisms.
Those reading this comment may be interested in viewing a CNN interview of Ambassador Palitha Kohona and others which relates to the IDPs in the camps, among other topics – http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/12/14/sri-lanka.human.rights/index.html?iref=allsearch
seasonal rainfall expected, IDPs are suffering again
Heavy floods in East, 3 killed, IDP camps under water http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
seasonal rainfall expected, IDPs are suffering again
Heavy floods in East, 3 killed, IDP camps under water
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=30804
Rohan Gemba !
Pappa banda
I don’t need to tell any story, media all over the world tell what u did to Tamil over 61 years of Racist babarian rule.
If you insist that there were 61 years of Barbarian rule against Tamils, tell me do you call Laksman Kadiragamar, the Thondaman's, Mano Ganeshan, Chelvanayagam and many hundreds of other Tamil politicians who were involved with those governments also as going against Tamils ????? I challange you to answer this question – I am sure you will slip out and stay without answering this question as a true LTTE member would do.
As for your link, you want to bring MR to HR courts for killing Pulidevan and Nadesan ???? How can you value two idiotic, mentally challenged terrorists over a democratically elected president of a country ?? (Oh I forgot that you are also a part of this idiotic, mentally challenged menace)
Dear Jim,
What's necessary in your thoughts might not be the most necessary for the others. Remember, we (the other Bloggers) represent our selves and our thoughts. You represent an internationally renowned organization. Hence, you are kind of under obligation to put down stuff that might not only be necessary for you, but for the others and the organization you represent too…
Hope you could just go beyond your current thought process a little bit more, so that we could make this world a better place for you and for me and the entire human race.. 😀 –
Thanks
Jim – Sorry I had to post again – Is it bad to be a bit harsh on LTTE supporters too ?? I mean it is a terrorist organization that killed many innocent civilians, political leaders of many countries, supported other terror groups and was involved in Bad Bad activities as Drug Trafficking etc.. ??
In Hell !!
You mean the IDP's who are in the east ? Yes, I agree with you – poor people… I mean they have been in these camps for almost 15 years after the LTTE chased them out from the northern part of the Island. And now they have to suffer because of the floods. Most are Muslims and Singhales noh ??
More info about Chelvanayagam http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2008/4/27046_…
1957 – The agreement, signed by SWRD Bandaranaike and SJV Chelvanayagam in 1957 http://www.google.ca/search?q=Chelvanayagam,&…
Sri Lanka execution video 'not fake', says expert
A forensic video specialist says footage broadcast by Channel 4 News, appearing to show the summary execution of Tamil Tiger fighters, wasn't fabricated, as the Sri Lankan government has claimed.
It was a quick and violent end to a long and violent war; 80,000 dead; maybe 20,000 in what was called the No Fire Zone in the last few bloody weeks.
Tens of thousands of Tamil civilians caught up in the final showdown as artillery shells slammed down; both government forces and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam accused of war crimes.
But journalists and independent investigators were denied access to the combat zone, and even after it was all over to eye-witnesses too. But reports still filtered out of unspeakable suffering.
Then, in August, this grim video was obtained by and broadcast by Channel 4 News.
The raw footage, a continuous shot one minute eight seconds long, purported to show the casual execution of eight bound, blindfolded, naked Tamil men by Sri Lankan government soldiers.
If this was what was claimed, this video would bolster international demands for an independent war crimes investigation – something the victorious Sri Lankan government has resisted.
The government denounced the controversial video as a fake, but the UN expert on extrajudicial killings wasn't convinced.
"This video tape seems to have most of the characteristics of a genuine article and that in itself is sufficient to impose an obligation on a government to undertake a sustained and effective impartial investigation to ascertain the truth." – Philip Alston, UN Special Rapporteur
Now, an independent expert in forensic video analysis has examined the footage, at the request of The Times. Grant Fredericks is a former policeman who works with the FBI as an expert witness.
He concluded that the video, consistent with a cell-phone recording, showed "no evidence of digital manipulation, editing or any other special effects."
The level of subtle detail, he said, could not have been virtually produced, citing the visible discharge of gas – from the barrel of the weapon and bleeding from the injury, which, he said, could not have been reproduced without special effects.
No errors exist anywhere to support a technical fabrication, he said.
"All the events that are purported to have taken place in the field of view of the camera are authentic.
"There's no signs of editing, there is no signs of any errors in the video. It's impossible to reproduce virtually in a computer environment." – Grant Fredericks, Forensics Video Analyst
With a presidential election looming next month, there is growing dissent in the ranks of the leadership.
President Mahinda Rajapaksa's brother and defence minister has now been accused of ordering other such killings at the end of the war by a former army commander.
With their victory receding into the past, the cabal who won the war are now turning on each other and tonight Channel 4 News has learned that the UN's special rapporteur will soon announce the findings of another independent report into the executions' video.
Thanthai "Chelvanayagam" had many peaceful negotiation with sri lanka, even banda-chelva agreement was thrown in the gabage. Under the ledership of Thanthai Chelvanayagam "Vaddukkoadai Resolution" passed in 1976.
Calling for the creation of independent and sovereign Tamil Eelam, based on Vaddukkoadai Resolution (VR) was the last spontaneous and definite mandate by Eezham Tamils in a totally free and democratic atmosphere. As the need for democratic political organisation unfolds afresh, Tamils have to take up the thread directly from the VR. The Thimphu principles and all the other formulas put forward subsequently under the duress of powers, and failed as negotiation models, do not get precedence over the VR as bases for political organization. Mu’l’livaaykkaal was not the real defeat. The defeat comes only when Tamils are made to politically denounce their heart-felt aspirations. The diaspora needs to peruse and correct course of any proposal that stops just at self-determination. In UN charter and in international law it is just an empty phrase that doesn’t protect nations or ethnicities.
The Vaddukkoaddai Resolution of 1976, calling for independent, sovereign, Tamil Eelam in the North and East of the island of Sri Lanka was a proclamation of all democratic Tamil political parties, including Ceylon Workers Congress, the then united political party of the Upcountry Tamils. The Eezham Tamil voters of the North and East overwhelmingly endorsed it in the 1977 elections. Thus it was a definite democratic mandate of Tamils and so far they didn’t get another chance to democratically tell what is in their heart.
The Thimphu principles of 1985 were a diluted version of Vaddukkoaddai Resolution, after truncating independence and sovereignty and stopping just at Tamil nation, homeland and self-determination.
The Thimphu principles, diluted to facilitate negotiation with Colombo, were jointly put forward by all the Tamil militant organizations of that time and the TULF. There was no mandate of the people. The most important fact to be noted is that the Indian Establishment that was always keen in nullifying Tamil independence in the island was behind making Tamil militancy then under its influence agreeable to the principles as a minimum platform for negotiation.
The Indo-Sri Lanka agreement of 1987 imposed on Tamils touched only the point of homeland, that too temporarily, and it was recently breached by Colombo. There was no credible mandate as the LTTE boycotted and the elections took place under the coercing presence of the Indian military. However, the provincial government elected under it finally felt it necessary to declare independent and sovereign Eelam, before winding up and while the Indian military was present.
The Oslo communiqué of 2002 was a further dilution of Vaddukkoaddai in another way, by its adoption of an invented phrase ‘internal self-determination’. Norway and some other powers that later became the Co-Chairs were behind making the LTTE agreeable to experiment negotiation with this dilution. Again there was no mandate of people. LTTE's chief negotiator Anton Balasingham, writing in 2004, questioned the concept of Oslo Declaration and implied the expiry of LTTE's concession on internal self-determination.
The ISGA of 2003, which has reference to Vaddukkoaddai but not to Thimphu, was only an interim proposal during the Co-Chair sponsored peace. It was apparently a move of the LTTE to supersede Oslo Communiqué. The mandate it received from Tamils has to be considered limited as the elections took place with the 6th Amendment to the constitution in effect. Its only electoral validity today is that it binds the TNA.
This week, 99% assent Tamil Eelam in overwhelming turn out of 31,000 in France
31,148 eligible Eezham Tamil diaspora voters over 18 in France participated this weekend in the referendum to say yes or no to independent and sovereign Tamil Eelam and 30,936 of them have said yes. The postal votes permitted to interior areas of France are yet to be counted and the number is expected to be between 2,000 and 3,000. In the absence of any official statistics, police estimates earlier placed the number of adult Eezham Tamils in France between 25,000 and 35,000. The near total turn out of voters amidst international campaign that Tamil Eelam is drowned in Mu'l'livaaykkal has stunned the observers. The public spirit has made sections of Tamil media, initially engaged in vicious campaign against the referendum, to make a U-turn supporting it later.
More info about Chelvanayagam http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2008/4/27046_…
1957 – The agreement, signed by SWRD Bandaranaike and SJV Chelvanayagam in 1957 http://www.google.ca/search?q=Chelvanayagam,&…
Rohan Gemba !
Pappa banda
I don’t need to tell any story, media all over the world tell what u did to Tamil over 61 years of Racist babarian rule.
If you insist that there were 61 years of Barbarian rule against Tamils, tell me do you call Laksman Kadiragamar, the Thondaman’s, Mano Ganeshan, Chelvanayagam and many hundreds of other Tamil politicians who were involved with those governments also as going against Tamils ????? I challange you to answer this question – I am sure you will slip out and stay without answering this question as a true LTTE member would do.
As for your link, you want to bring MR to HR courts for killing Pulidevan and Nadesan ???? How can you value two idiotic, mentally challenged terrorists over a democratically elected president of a country ?? (Oh I forgot that you are also a part of this idiotic, mentally challenged menace)
Dear Jim,
What’s necessary in your thoughts might not be the most necessary for the others. Remember, we (the other Bloggers) represent our selves and our thoughts. You represent an internationally renowned organization. Hence, you are kind of under obligation to put down stuff that might not only be necessary for you, but for the others and the organization you represent too…
Hope you could just go beyond your current thought process a little bit more, so that we could make this world a better place for you and for me and the entire human race.. 😀 –
Thanks
Jim – Sorry I had to post again – Is it bad to be a bit harsh on LTTE supporters too ?? I mean it is a terrorist organization that killed many innocent civilians, political leaders of many countries, supported other terror groups and was involved in Bad Bad activities as Drug Trafficking etc.. ??
In Hell !!
You mean the IDP’s who are in the east ? Yes, I agree with you – poor people… I mean they have been in these camps for almost 15 years after the LTTE chased them out from the northern part of the Island. And now they have to suffer because of the floods. Most are Muslims and Singhales noh ??
Rohan !
You still haven't answered me, but done a cut and paste job which you are quite brilliant in doing.
I will make the question easy for you – the answer only has to be a Yes or a NO !
1. Any Tamil Leader who does not stand for Eelam is not a Tamil – (Yes / No )
2. Piribaharan was great leader – (Yes / No)
3. Lakshman K, Thondaman etc. are not considered Tamil Leaders ( Yes / No )
4. All anti LTTE Tamil Politicians / leaders were involved in Killing Tamil people in Sri Lanka ( Yes / No )
Harida ?? Lesida ?? Now can ??
Seyol !
Do U think it is not fake ?? Have U seen the video ??
Don't you think that when a bullet hit's a head of a live person (head is a place where there is a lot of blood at a given time) a load of blood should be splashed ??
Dude – don't let people laugh at you – I mean i don't liked to be laughed at ? Why you ?
Sri Lanka execution video ‘not fake’, says expert
A forensic video specialist says footage broadcast by Channel 4 News, appearing to show the summary execution of Tamil Tiger fighters, wasn’t fabricated, as the Sri Lankan government has claimed.
It was a quick and violent end to a long and violent war; 80,000 dead; maybe 20,000 in what was called the No Fire Zone in the last few bloody weeks.
Tens of thousands of Tamil civilians caught up in the final showdown as artillery shells slammed down; both government forces and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam accused of war crimes.
But journalists and independent investigators were denied access to the combat zone, and even after it was all over to eye-witnesses too. But reports still filtered out of unspeakable suffering.
Then, in August, this grim video was obtained by and broadcast by Channel 4 News.
The raw footage, a continuous shot one minute eight seconds long, purported to show the casual execution of eight bound, blindfolded, naked Tamil men by Sri Lankan government soldiers.
If this was what was claimed, this video would bolster international demands for an independent war crimes investigation – something the victorious Sri Lankan government has resisted.
The government denounced the controversial video as a fake, but the UN expert on extrajudicial killings wasn’t convinced.
“This video tape seems to have most of the characteristics of a genuine article and that in itself is sufficient to impose an obligation on a government to undertake a sustained and effective impartial investigation to ascertain the truth.” – Philip Alston, UN Special Rapporteur
Now, an independent expert in forensic video analysis has examined the footage, at the request of The Times. Grant Fredericks is a former policeman who works with the FBI as an expert witness.
He concluded that the video, consistent with a cell-phone recording, showed “no evidence of digital manipulation, editing or any other special effects.”
The level of subtle detail, he said, could not have been virtually produced, citing the visible discharge of gas – from the barrel of the weapon and bleeding from the injury, which, he said, could not have been reproduced without special effects.
No errors exist anywhere to support a technical fabrication, he said.
“All the events that are purported to have taken place in the field of view of the camera are authentic.
“There’s no signs of editing, there is no signs of any errors in the video. It’s impossible to reproduce virtually in a computer environment.” – Grant Fredericks, Forensics Video Analyst
With a presidential election looming next month, there is growing dissent in the ranks of the leadership.
President Mahinda Rajapaksa’s brother and defence minister has now been accused of ordering other such killings at the end of the war by a former army commander.
With their victory receding into the past, the cabal who won the war are now turning on each other and tonight Channel 4 News has learned that the UN’s special rapporteur will soon announce the findings of another independent report into the executions’ video.
Thanthai “Chelvanayagam” had many peaceful negotiation with sri lanka, even banda-chelva agreement was thrown in the gabage. Under the ledership of Thanthai Chelvanayagam “Vaddukkoadai Resolution” passed in 1976.
Calling for the creation of independent and sovereign Tamil Eelam, based on Vaddukkoadai Resolution (VR) was the last spontaneous and definite mandate by Eezham Tamils in a totally free and democratic atmosphere. As the need for democratic political organisation unfolds afresh, Tamils have to take up the thread directly from the VR. The Thimphu principles and all the other formulas put forward subsequently under the duress of powers, and failed as negotiation models, do not get precedence over the VR as bases for political organization. Mu’l’livaaykkaal was not the real defeat. The defeat comes only when Tamils are made to politically denounce their heart-felt aspirations. The diaspora needs to peruse and correct course of any proposal that stops just at self-determination. In UN charter and in international law it is just an empty phrase that doesn’t protect nations or ethnicities.
The Vaddukkoaddai Resolution of 1976, calling for independent, sovereign, Tamil Eelam in the North and East of the island of Sri Lanka was a proclamation of all democratic Tamil political parties, including Ceylon Workers Congress, the then united political party of the Upcountry Tamils. The Eezham Tamil voters of the North and East overwhelmingly endorsed it in the 1977 elections. Thus it was a definite democratic mandate of Tamils and so far they didn’t get another chance to democratically tell what is in their heart.
The Thimphu principles of 1985 were a diluted version of Vaddukkoaddai Resolution, after truncating independence and sovereignty and stopping just at Tamil nation, homeland and self-determination.
The Thimphu principles, diluted to facilitate negotiation with Colombo, were jointly put forward by all the Tamil militant organizations of that time and the TULF. There was no mandate of the people. The most important fact to be noted is that the Indian Establishment that was always keen in nullifying Tamil independence in the island was behind making Tamil militancy then under its influence agreeable to the principles as a minimum platform for negotiation.
The Indo-Sri Lanka agreement of 1987 imposed on Tamils touched only the point of homeland, that too temporarily, and it was recently breached by Colombo. There was no credible mandate as the LTTE boycotted and the elections took place under the coercing presence of the Indian military. However, the provincial government elected under it finally felt it necessary to declare independent and sovereign Eelam, before winding up and while the Indian military was present.
The Oslo communiqué of 2002 was a further dilution of Vaddukkoaddai in another way, by its adoption of an invented phrase ‘internal self-determination’. Norway and some other powers that later became the Co-Chairs were behind making the LTTE agreeable to experiment negotiation with this dilution. Again there was no mandate of people. LTTE’s chief negotiator Anton Balasingham, writing in 2004, questioned the concept of Oslo Declaration and implied the expiry of LTTE’s concession on internal self-determination.
The ISGA of 2003, which has reference to Vaddukkoaddai but not to Thimphu, was only an interim proposal during the Co-Chair sponsored peace. It was apparently a move of the LTTE to supersede Oslo Communiqué. The mandate it received from Tamils has to be considered limited as the elections took place with the 6th Amendment to the constitution in effect. Its only electoral validity today is that it binds the TNA.
This week, 99% assent Tamil Eelam in overwhelming turn out of 31,000 in France
31,148 eligible Eezham Tamil diaspora voters over 18 in France participated this weekend in the referendum to say yes or no to independent and sovereign Tamil Eelam and 30,936 of them have said yes. The postal votes permitted to interior areas of France are yet to be counted and the number is expected to be between 2,000 and 3,000. In the absence of any official statistics, police estimates earlier placed the number of adult Eezham Tamils in France between 25,000 and 35,000. The near total turn out of voters amidst international campaign that Tamil Eelam is drowned in Mu’l’livaaykkal has stunned the observers. The public spirit has made sections of Tamil media, initially engaged in vicious campaign against the referendum, to make a U-turn supporting it later.
More info about Chelvanayagam
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2008/4/27046_space.html
1957 – The agreement, signed by SWRD Bandaranaike and SJV Chelvanayagam in 1957
http://www.google.ca/search?q=Chelvanayagam,&hl=en&safe=off&sa=G&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=CIYoS7HjGJS-lAfjhsCgDQ&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=16&ved=0CDMQ5wIwDw
Rohan !
You still haven’t answered me, but done a cut and paste job which you are quite brilliant in doing.
I will make the question easy for you – the answer only has to be a Yes or a NO !
1. Any Tamil Leader who does not stand for Eelam is not a Tamil – (Yes / No )
2. Piribaharan was great leader – (Yes / No)
3. Lakshman K, Thondaman etc. are not considered Tamil Leaders ( Yes / No )
4. All anti LTTE Tamil Politicians / leaders were involved in Killing Tamil people in Sri Lanka ( Yes / No )
Harida ?? Lesida ?? Now can ??
Seyol !
Do U think it is not fake ?? Have U seen the video ??
Don’t you think that when a bullet hit’s a head of a live person (head is a place where there is a lot of blood at a given time) a load of blood should be splashed ??
Dude – don’t let people laugh at you – I mean i don’t liked to be laughed at ? Why you ?
Professor Boyle said, this War Crime also constituted a gross violation of Common Article 3 to the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, to which Sri Lanka is a party and also constitutes customary international law:
"Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms…shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.
To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds…
….
(d)…the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples."
Jim Pappa are you an independent forensic video specialist ?
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A report of preliminary findings from a US-based forensic company that took nearly three weeks to analyze the Channel-4 broadcast video allegedly showing Sri Lanka Army (SLA) soldiers extra-judicially executing Tamil captives stripped naked and hands tied behind their back, said “the video and audio of the events depicted in the Video, were continuous without any evidence of start/stops, insertions, deletions, over recordings, editing or tampering of any kind.”
The report contained determinations on ten different critical issues on the characteristics of the video and audio portions of the 3gp format file distributed by the German-based Journalists for Democracy in Sri Lanka (JDS) on 25th August.
The forensic firm used a firing range to conduct field experiments to arrive at some of the findings according to the report.
Key findings listed in the preliminary report follow:
•No evidence of tampering or editing was discovered with either the video or audio portions of Video.
•The blood pooled around the previous victim with the white shirt and with the victim of the 2nd shooting is consistent with blood from the brain, which would contain high amounts of oxygen giving the blood its bright color. The fact that it is still bright in color is consistent with it being very recent.
•The audio delay with respect to both gun shots’ audio compared with each corresponding rifle recoil is consistent for some, if not most, camera cell phones that are capable of video recording.
•Preliminary field test with a typical camera cell phone of similar audio qualities (per header information in Exhibit “A”), was able to record a MAK-90 (AK variant w/16” barrel) gun shot w/7.62×39mm ammo, with the camera cell phone being positioned in a similar camera field of view of the 2nd gun shot, or 12 feet away from the muzzle, without any distortion of the audio.
•The leg of an apparent previous shooting victim lying prone on the ground, down range and at the feet of the first victim, rises in the air when the first victim is shot, and then slowly drops to its former position. This reaction appears to be from the bullet that passed through the first victim and then striking the down range victim and would be consistent with a victim that was very recently shot that has not died yet.
Jim Pappa Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 12:33 am
In Hell !!
You mean the IDP’s who are in the east ? Yes, I agree with you – poor people…
Did you read the full content
"Lightning claimed the lives of three people and more than 25,000 have been displaced due to heavy floods as cyclone 'Ward' entered the Eastern coast Monday night. Vaakarai, Vaazhaichcheanai, Kaaththaankudi and Vavu'natheevu are among the worst affected areas in Batticaloa. Meanwhile, all the huts of 'welfare centers' located in Moothoor East and Eechchilampattu in Trincomalee district where hundreds of internally displaced Tamil families, still sheltered awaiting resettlement in their own villages, are under water due to torrential rain now being experienced. Roofs of these huts have been blown off due to gale winds due to depression that moves along the coast of North and East.
In Ampaa'rai district, almost 70 per cent of the paddy cultivation, including most of the district's interior roads, are flooded, according to news reports from the district.
The lightning deaths were reported from Ampaa'rai and Batticaloa.
Meanwhile huts in welfare centers located in Paddiththidal, Ma'nal-cheanai and Ki'liveddi where IDPs of Champoor area are sheltered have also been damaged by rain water and gale winds. Inmates of these centers including children, elders and pregnant women are undergoing immense hardships without proper dwelling facilities. About three thousand IDPs of villages in Champoor area have been staying in these welfare centers as they are not allowed to return to their homes that have come under the so-called High Security Zones claimed by the Sri Lanka Army.
Three hundred members of twenty nine IDP families of Eechchilampattu and currently being sheltered in welfare centers in Chinnaku'lam and Udaapukkea'ni are again displaced. The IDPs have sought refuge in alternative sites, according to Trincomalee district parliamentarian K.Thurairetnasingham.
Mr. Thurairatnesingham has brought the plight of the IPDs to the notice of the District Additional Government Agent urging him to make immediate arrangement to provide alternative shelters to them. The IDPs have not been allowed to resettle in their own villages in Eechchilampattu division by the Sri Lanka Army but being held in the so-called welfare centers. "
you still believe they are not Tamil speaking people. you know how http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/8/47309_…
Your are colonizing Tamil/muslim land. ltte is dead & gone, don't say ltte anymore. Did you bring more sin hell a for new settlement in the east.
You have Question for YES/NO from rohan, see one more q for tamils http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
I am YES, YES, YES… for this you?
Jim Pappa Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 12:33 am
In Hell !!
You mean the IDP’s who are in the east ? Yes, I agree with you – poor people…
Did you read the full content
"Lightning claimed the lives of three people and more than 25,000 have been displaced due to heavy floods as cyclone 'Ward' entered the Eastern coast Monday night. Vaakarai, Vaazhaichcheanai, Kaaththaankudi and Vavu'natheevu are among the worst affected areas in Batticaloa. Meanwhile, all the huts of 'welfare centers' located in Moothoor East and Eechchilampattu in Trincomalee district where hundreds of internally displaced Tamil families, still sheltered awaiting resettlement in their own villages, are under water due to torrential rain now being experienced. Roofs of these huts have been blown off due to gale winds due to depression that moves along the coast of North and East.
In Ampaa'rai district, almost 70 per cent of the paddy cultivation, including most of the district's interior roads, are flooded, according to news reports from the district.
The lightning deaths were reported from Ampaa'rai and Batticaloa.
Meanwhile huts in welfare centers located in Paddiththidal, Ma'nal-cheanai and Ki'liveddi where IDPs of Champoor area are sheltered have also been damaged by rain water and gale winds. Inmates of these centers including children, elders and pregnant women are undergoing immense hardships without proper dwelling facilities. About three thousand IDPs of villages in Champoor area have been staying in these welfare centers as they are not allowed to return to their homes that have come under the so-called High Security Zones claimed by the Sri Lanka Army.
Three hundred members of twenty nine IDP families of Eechchilampattu and currently being sheltered in welfare centers in Chinnaku'lam and Udaapukkea'ni are again displaced. The IDPs have sought refuge in alternative sites, according to Trincomalee district parliamentarian K.Thurairetnasingham.
Mr. Thurairatnesingham has brought the plight of the IPDs to the notice of the District Additional Government Agent urging him to make immediate arrangement to provide alternative shelters to them. The IDPs have not been allowed to resettle in their own villages in Eechchilampattu division by the Sri Lanka Army but being held in the so-called welfare centers. "
you still believe they are not Tamil speaking people. you know how http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/8/47309_…
Your are colonizing Tamil/muslim land. ltte is dead & gone, don't say ltte anymore. Did you bring more sin hell a for new settlement in the east.
You have Question for YES/NO from rohan, see one more q for tamils http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
I am YES, YES, YES… for this you?
Professor Boyle said, this War Crime also constituted a gross violation of Common Article 3 to the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, to which Sri Lanka is a party and also constitutes customary international law:
“Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms…shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.
To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds…
….
(d)…the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.”
Jim Pappa are you an independent forensic video specialist ?
——————————————————————————————-
A report of preliminary findings from a US-based forensic company that took nearly three weeks to analyze the Channel-4 broadcast video allegedly showing Sri Lanka Army (SLA) soldiers extra-judicially executing Tamil captives stripped naked and hands tied behind their back, said “the video and audio of the events depicted in the Video, were continuous without any evidence of start/stops, insertions, deletions, over recordings, editing or tampering of any kind.”
The report contained determinations on ten different critical issues on the characteristics of the video and audio portions of the 3gp format file distributed by the German-based Journalists for Democracy in Sri Lanka (JDS) on 25th August.
The forensic firm used a firing range to conduct field experiments to arrive at some of the findings according to the report.
Key findings listed in the preliminary report follow:
•No evidence of tampering or editing was discovered with either the video or audio portions of Video.
•The blood pooled around the previous victim with the white shirt and with the victim of the 2nd shooting is consistent with blood from the brain, which would contain high amounts of oxygen giving the blood its bright color. The fact that it is still bright in color is consistent with it being very recent.
•The audio delay with respect to both gun shots’ audio compared with each corresponding rifle recoil is consistent for some, if not most, camera cell phones that are capable of video recording.
•Preliminary field test with a typical camera cell phone of similar audio qualities (per header information in Exhibit “A”), was able to record a MAK-90 (AK variant w/16” barrel) gun shot w/7.62×39mm ammo, with the camera cell phone being positioned in a similar camera field of view of the 2nd gun shot, or 12 feet away from the muzzle, without any distortion of the audio.
•The leg of an apparent previous shooting victim lying prone on the ground, down range and at the feet of the first victim, rises in the air when the first victim is shot, and then slowly drops to its former position. This reaction appears to be from the bullet that passed through the first victim and then striking the down range victim and would be consistent with a victim that was very recently shot that has not died yet.
Jim Pappa Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 12:33 am
In Hell !!
You mean the IDP’s who are in the east ? Yes, I agree with you – poor people…
Did you read the full content
“Lightning claimed the lives of three people and more than 25,000 have been displaced due to heavy floods as cyclone ‘Ward’ entered the Eastern coast Monday night. Vaakarai, Vaazhaichcheanai, Kaaththaankudi and Vavu’natheevu are among the worst affected areas in Batticaloa. Meanwhile, all the huts of ‘welfare centers’ located in Moothoor East and Eechchilampattu in Trincomalee district where hundreds of internally displaced Tamil families, still sheltered awaiting resettlement in their own villages, are under water due to torrential rain now being experienced. Roofs of these huts have been blown off due to gale winds due to depression that moves along the coast of North and East.
In Ampaa’rai district, almost 70 per cent of the paddy cultivation, including most of the district’s interior roads, are flooded, according to news reports from the district.
The lightning deaths were reported from Ampaa’rai and Batticaloa.
Meanwhile huts in welfare centers located in Paddiththidal, Ma’nal-cheanai and Ki’liveddi where IDPs of Champoor area are sheltered have also been damaged by rain water and gale winds. Inmates of these centers including children, elders and pregnant women are undergoing immense hardships without proper dwelling facilities. About three thousand IDPs of villages in Champoor area have been staying in these welfare centers as they are not allowed to return to their homes that have come under the so-called High Security Zones claimed by the Sri Lanka Army.
Three hundred members of twenty nine IDP families of Eechchilampattu and currently being sheltered in welfare centers in Chinnaku’lam and Udaapukkea’ni are again displaced. The IDPs have sought refuge in alternative sites, according to Trincomalee district parliamentarian K.Thurairetnasingham.
Mr. Thurairatnesingham has brought the plight of the IPDs to the notice of the District Additional Government Agent urging him to make immediate arrangement to provide alternative shelters to them. The IDPs have not been allowed to resettle in their own villages in Eechchilampattu division by the Sri Lanka Army but being held in the so-called welfare centers. ”
you still believe they are not Tamil speaking people. you know how
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/8/47309_space.html
Your are colonizing Tamil/muslim land. ltte is dead & gone, don’t say ltte anymore. Did you bring more sin hell a for new settlement in the east.
You have Question for YES/NO from rohan, see one more q for tamils
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=30811
I am YES, YES, YES… for this you?
In Hell !!
Thanks for the link
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/8/47309_…
I love that Guy Udawatte's comments – Right on Target !!
Mawatha Silva !
To keep things Short, I like the explanation you believe in.
But, I believe the evidence and explanation the other one did 😀
I am pretty sure it is Bad Acting and not real – I mean for me it is defa not real and quite hideous. Amazing how a person is shot and not dead so that he would react to a gun shot to another – Hmmm.. Wonder why the forces "Half Killed" him – probably to get the reaction captured on tape 😀 😀 😀
In Hell !!
I like it when you say that the LTTE is dead and gone 😀 Bravo !!
But, my issue is that though the tiger is dead, a few Pussy Cats with Stripes are trying to show off as the tigers. But all we hear is a purr and sympathy towards the dead Tiger – (I wish to call them "mentally challenged" tigers)
The eastern IDP's are mainly those who were thrown out from North by the LTTE – the government is trying to re-settle them – what's wrong in that ? What's wrong with people of any Ethnic group going and licing in Yapa Patuna and Gokanna ? also you have said Tamil / Muslim Land ??? Amazing !! The Muslims came to SL only about a 1000 years ago (as a religious divide – remember they were Hindu's and Buddhists (as in Iran & Afghanistan – Bhamian ) prior to Prophet Mohammad who converted them.
Is your theory based on getting peaces of lands from every country a set of Ethnic group migrates to ??? Why not you guys ask for Quebec from Canada ? (Oh this is of course in your agenda – I forgot – sorry) I feel the best would still be TamilNadu – Imagine – 70 million there – SL only 1.5 Mil (as you do not consider the up country Tamils to be "Your" type). This also makes me wonder how while the home lands have 1.5 mil could invade part of another country to increase the population to 70 mil ?? 😕 I really need to learn Rocket Science to make this equation !!
In Hell !!
Thanks for the link
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/8/47309_…
I love that Guy Udawatte's comments – Right on Target !!
Jim Pappa Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 4:35 am
You always say sorry to JIM MD, but others to "mentally challenged menace",
definetly you must be mentally challenged menace sinhalla moron.
Why did u drop Chelvanayagam from your Q's list.
1. Any Tamil Leader who does not stand for Eelam is not a Tamil – (Yes / No )
No, If there is any Tamil leader, that is their right. U C in france 99% YES 4 Eelam, U mean leaders from 1%. still that is their Democratic right. But paramilitary can't be assumed as Tamil leaders. they are part of Sinhala chauvinism/military machine. Do u want any example, today news http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
2. Piribaharan was great leader – (Yes / No) YES for the Cause, no for some of the method adopted.
YES, he is a symptom of Sinhala chauvinism state. After 1948 to 1978 – almost three decades,frustrated Tamil youth formed the liberation forces to protect Tamils from Sinhala chauvinism.
3. Lakshman K, Thondaman etc. are not considered Tamil Leaders ( Yes / No )
There are 2 Thondaman, both were elected by their own people, both have leadership, try to help their people. Many time, they were threten by the state forces to accept gorvernment policies. ya, poor helpless Tamil leaders.
But for Lakshman, only the name is Tamil, he was not elected by the people, but selected by the states for their propaganda purposes. He does not know Tamil. How can he talk to ordinary Tamils without knowing their language. He can't be a Tamil leader. He is a selected state propaganda agent. even rajapak's family members were not elected by the people, but selected by rajapaker.
SJV Chelvanayagam is the real Tamil leader.
4. All anti LTTE Tamil Politicians / leaders were involved in Killing Tamil people in Sri Lanka ( Yes / No ) YES
As I mentioned earlier, they are members of paramilitary, still killing Tamils.
By the way another YES for http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
Prabakaran’s Daughter Dwaraka’s photos released http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_16_00…
LTTE Leaders including Prabhakaran were killed after the surrendered to the Army http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_16_00…
Crime commited to their family members too
Jim Pappa Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 4:35 am
You always say sorry to JIM MD, but others to "mentally challenged menace",
definetly you must be mentally challenged menace sinhalla moron.
Why did u drop Chelvanayagam from your Q's list.
1. Any Tamil Leader who does not stand for Eelam is not a Tamil – (Yes / No )
No, If there is any Tamil leader, that is their right. U C in france 99% YES 4 Eelam, U mean leaders from 1%. still that is their Democratic right. But paramilitary can't be assumed as Tamil leaders. they are part of Sinhala chauvinism/military machine. Do u want any example, today news http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
2. Piribaharan was great leader – (Yes / No) YES for the Cause, no for some of the method adopted.
YES, he is a symptom of Sinhala chauvinism state. After 1948 to 1978 – almost three decades,frustrated Tamil youth formed the liberation forces to protect Tamils from Sinhala chauvinism.
3. Lakshman K, Thondaman etc. are not considered Tamil Leaders ( Yes / No )
There are 2 Thondaman, both were elected by their own people, both have leadership, try to help their people. Many time, they were threten by the state forces to accept gorvernment policies. ya, poor helpless Tamil leaders.
But for Lakshman, only the name is Tamil, he was not elected by the people, but selected by the states for their propaganda purposes. He does not know Tamil. How can he talk to ordinary Tamils without knowing their language. He can't be a Tamil leader. He is a selected state propaganda agent. even rajapak's family members were not elected by the people, but selected by rajapaker.
SJV Chelvanayagam is the real Tamil leader.
4. All anti LTTE Tamil Politicians / leaders were involved in Killing Tamil people in Sri Lanka ( Yes / No ) YES
As I mentioned earlier, they are members of paramilitary, still killing Tamils.
By the way another YES for http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
Following the adoption of a Commission proposal on Sri Lanka and GSP+ treatment, Christiane Hohmann, European Commission Spokesperson for Trade said : "The Commission completed a thorough investigation into the human rights situation in Sri Lanka and in particular whether Sri Lanka is living up to the commitments it made to respect international human rights standards when it became a beneficiary of the European Union�s GSP+ trade incentive scheme which provides for additional trade benefits. The report came to the conclusion that there are significant shortcomings in this area and that Sri Lanka is in breach of its GSP+ commitments. After consulting with Member States, the Commission has adopted today a proposal with a view to temporarily suspending these additional trade benefits. EU Member States will have two months in which to decide on it.
YES, this is atlest temporarily good news
Prabakaran’s Daughter Dwaraka’s photos released http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_16_00…
LTTE Leaders including Prabhakaran were killed after the surrendered to the Army http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_16_00…
Crime commited to their family members too
Hey there Cut and Paste Rohan,
Indeed you are Mentally Challenged to
1. Support a Mentally Challenged Terrorist
2. To cut and paste instead of share your own thoughts
3. Be stupid enough to tell that I say Sorry to Jim instead of understanding the reasoning behind it
4. For calling me a Singhalees – I am not 😀
Let me check out the other comments
U C in france 99% YES 4 Eelam
Don't get the people in France to laugh from their Anus instead of their face – You seriously are Mentally Challenged to think that the French applauds Eelam – If you are taking of the Sri Lankan "LTTE" Asylum seekers in France, I understand cause if not they will have to come back to Sri Lanka noh ?? I don't think you will like to do so. Also we are talking about Tamils in SL – not in France. If you want something in SL, you ask the Tamils here… If you can't understand that you are Mentally challenged 😀
But paramilitary can’t be assumed as Tamil leaders. they are part of Sinhala chauvinism/military machine. Do u want any example, today news http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
So Lakshman K is not a Tamil leader ??
I don't take Tamilnut to be a credible source – Not a terrorist Mouth peice – never – Sorry…
2. Piribaharan was great leader – (Yes / No) YES for the Cause, no for some of the method adopted.
Partially Mentally challenged ??
YES, he is a symptom of Sinhala chauvinism state. After 1948 to 1978 – almost three decades,frustrated Tamil youth formed the liberation forces to protect Tamils from Sinhala chauvinism.
Then He should have fought against the GOSL not against all the Tamils who opposed him nor the innocent Singhalees or Muslims living in the North and the East. He should have given political leadership and not military leadership. He would have got the support from many overseas governments if he had done so – Why he couldn't do that ? Because there was no reason or requirement – no government would have supported because it was a false claim. That's why he tried Military – His own agenda and not fighting for a cause. – Lunetic !! Mentally Challenged 😀
3. Lakshman K, Thondaman etc. are not considered Tamil Leaders ( Yes / No )
There are 2 Thondaman, both were elected by their own people, both have leadership, try to help their people. Many time, they were threten by the state forces to accept gorvernment policies. ya, poor helpless Tamil leaders.
In your dreams my friend – they even got the votes of other ethnic groups who worked in Estates – they represented estate workers and not an Ethnic group – the majority of the Ethnicity was Tamils – true.. But all Estate workers immaterial of Ethnicity voted for them.
But for Lakshman, only the name is Tamil, he was not elected by the people, but selected by the states for their propaganda purposes. He does not know Tamil. How can he talk to ordinary Tamils without knowing their language. He can’t be a Tamil leader. He is a selected state propaganda agent. even rajapak’s family members were not elected by the people, but selected by rajapaker.
LOL – So Lakshman K is not a Tamil for you now ???? This is why I called you Mentally challenged – You don't respect another persons point of view… How about Neelan T whom you killed ?? He was not Tamil too ?? Ponnambalam ?? Not tamil ? Do I need to give the list ???
SJV Chelvanayagam is the real Tamil leader. – So why not follow his path – not taking guns ??
4. All anti LTTE Tamil Politicians / leaders were involved in Killing Tamil people in Sri Lanka ( Yes / No ) YES
As I mentioned earlier, they are members of paramilitary, still killing Tamils.
The exact answer I expected from you folks.
NOW it is up to the international community and Organizations like AI to realise that these bunch of people are there to satisfy their own agenda where they stoop down to levels of calling the Tamils who are not in favour of their movement to be of a different nature – and they kill them though it is kind of mentioned the other way around here
it is high time that the world get to know that We Sri Lankans do not believe in Ethnic Divide and are Happy to live in this Island as One Nation. There is a minority (very minimal – less than 0.5%) of the population who wishes otherwise for different reasons from which one is to seek asylum in Western countries. There is no proper political reason behind this.
LTTE Leaders including Prabhakaran were killed after the surrendered to the Army http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_16_00…
Crime commited to their family members too
Hey Rohan – U know that Wickramabahu is Mentally Challenged too ?? LOL
He get's only 1000 votes from Whole Sri Lanka every time he contest for Presidential elections – LOL
Bottom line – source not credible !!
However, my personal opinion – You don't play around with Terrorists. I bet US army will shoot down bin Laden if he comes crawling on all 4..
Mawatha Silva !
To keep things Short, I like the explanation you believe in.
But, I believe the evidence and explanation the other one did 😀
I am pretty sure it is Bad Acting and not real – I mean for me it is defa not real and quite hideous. Amazing how a person is shot and not dead so that he would react to a gun shot to another – Hmmm.. Wonder why the forces “Half Killed” him – probably to get the reaction captured on tape 😀 😀 😀
Hey there Cut and Paste Rohan,
Indeed you are Mentally Challenged to
1. Support a Mentally Challenged Terrorist
2. To cut and paste instead of share your own thoughts
3. Be stupid enough to tell that I say Sorry to Jim instead of understanding the reasoning behind it
4. For calling me a Singhalees – I am not 😀
Let me check out the other comments
U C in france 99% YES 4 Eelam
Don't get the people in France to laugh from their Anus instead of their face – You seriously are Mentally Challenged to think that the French applauds Eelam – If you are taking of the Sri Lankan "LTTE" Asylum seekers in France, I understand cause if not they will have to come back to Sri Lanka noh ?? I don't think you will like to do so. Also we are talking about Tamils in SL – not in France. If you want something in SL, you ask the Tamils here… If you can't understand that you are Mentally challenged 😀
But paramilitary can’t be assumed as Tamil leaders. they are part of Sinhala chauvinism/military machine. Do u want any example, today news http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
So Lakshman K is not a Tamil leader ??
I don't take Tamilnut to be a credible source – Not a terrorist Mouth peice – never – Sorry…
2. Piribaharan was great leader – (Yes / No) YES for the Cause, no for some of the method adopted.
Partially Mentally challenged ??
YES, he is a symptom of Sinhala chauvinism state. After 1948 to 1978 – almost three decades,frustrated Tamil youth formed the liberation forces to protect Tamils from Sinhala chauvinism.
Then He should have fought against the GOSL not against all the Tamils who opposed him nor the innocent Singhalees or Muslims living in the North and the East. He should have given political leadership and not military leadership. He would have got the support from many overseas governments if he had done so – Why he couldn't do that ? Because there was no reason or requirement – no government would have supported because it was a false claim. That's why he tried Military – His own agenda and not fighting for a cause. – Lunetic !! Mentally Challenged 😀
3. Lakshman K, Thondaman etc. are not considered Tamil Leaders ( Yes / No )
There are 2 Thondaman, both were elected by their own people, both have leadership, try to help their people. Many time, they were threten by the state forces to accept gorvernment policies. ya, poor helpless Tamil leaders.
In your dreams my friend – they even got the votes of other ethnic groups who worked in Estates – they represented estate workers and not an Ethnic group – the majority of the Ethnicity was Tamils – true.. But all Estate workers immaterial of Ethnicity voted for them.
But for Lakshman, only the name is Tamil, he was not elected by the people, but selected by the states for their propaganda purposes. He does not know Tamil. How can he talk to ordinary Tamils without knowing their language. He can’t be a Tamil leader. He is a selected state propaganda agent. even rajapak’s family members were not elected by the people, but selected by rajapaker.
LOL – So Lakshman K is not a Tamil for you now ???? This is why I called you Mentally challenged – You don't respect another persons point of view… How about Neelan T whom you killed ?? He was not Tamil too ?? Ponnambalam ?? Not tamil ? Do I need to give the list ???
SJV Chelvanayagam is the real Tamil leader. – So why not follow his path – not taking guns ??
4. All anti LTTE Tamil Politicians / leaders were involved in Killing Tamil people in Sri Lanka ( Yes / No ) YES
As I mentioned earlier, they are members of paramilitary, still killing Tamils.
The exact answer I expected from you folks.
NOW it is up to the international community and Organizations like AI to realise that these bunch of people are there to satisfy their own agenda where they stoop down to levels of calling the Tamils who are not in favour of their movement to be of a different nature – and they kill them though it is kind of mentioned the other way around here
it is high time that the world get to know that We Sri Lankans do not believe in Ethnic Divide and are Happy to live in this Island as One Nation. There is a minority (very minimal – less than 0.5%) of the population who wishes otherwise for different reasons from which one is to seek asylum in Western countries. There is no proper political reason behind this.
Also Rohan !!
It is you guys who said that Piribaharan's Daughter fled to India – If so, was she killed by the Indian Forces when she went waving her white "whatever" to them ??
In Hell !!
I like it when you say that the LTTE is dead and gone 😀 Bravo !!
But, my issue is that though the tiger is dead, a few Pussy Cats with Stripes are trying to show off as the tigers. But all we hear is a purr and sympathy towards the dead Tiger – (I wish to call them “mentally challenged” tigers)
The eastern IDP’s are mainly those who were thrown out from North by the LTTE – the government is trying to re-settle them – what’s wrong in that ? What’s wrong with people of any Ethnic group going and licing in Yapa Patuna and Gokanna ? also you have said Tamil / Muslim Land ??? Amazing !! The Muslims came to SL only about a 1000 years ago (as a religious divide – remember they were Hindu’s and Buddhists (as in Iran & Afghanistan – Bhamian ) prior to Prophet Mohammad who converted them.
Is your theory based on getting peaces of lands from every country a set of Ethnic group migrates to ??? Why not you guys ask for Quebec from Canada ? (Oh this is of course in your agenda – I forgot – sorry) I feel the best would still be TamilNadu – Imagine – 70 million there – SL only 1.5 Mil (as you do not consider the up country Tamils to be “Your” type). This also makes me wonder how while the home lands have 1.5 mil could invade part of another country to increase the population to 70 mil ?? 😕 I really need to learn Rocket Science to make this equation !!
LTTE Leaders including Prabhakaran were killed after the surrendered to the Army http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_16_00…
Crime commited to their family members too
Hey Rohan – U know that Wickramabahu is Mentally Challenged too ?? LOL
He get's only 1000 votes from Whole Sri Lanka every time he contest for Presidential elections – LOL
Bottom line – source not credible !!
However, my personal opinion – You don't play around with Terrorists. I bet US army will shoot down bin Laden if he comes crawling on all 4..
In Hell !!
Thanks for the link
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/8/47309_space.html
I love that Guy Udawatte’s comments – Right on Target !!
Jim Pappa Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 4:35 am
You always say sorry to JIM MD, but others to “mentally challenged menace”,
definetly you must be mentally challenged menace sinhalla moron.
Why did u drop Chelvanayagam from your Q’s list.
1. Any Tamil Leader who does not stand for Eelam is not a Tamil – (Yes / No )
No, If there is any Tamil leader, that is their right. U C in france 99% YES 4 Eelam, U mean leaders from 1%. still that is their Democratic right. But paramilitary can’t be assumed as Tamil leaders. they are part of Sinhala chauvinism/military machine. Do u want any example, today news
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=30815
2. Piribaharan was great leader – (Yes / No) YES for the Cause, no for some of the method adopted.
YES, he is a symptom of Sinhala chauvinism state. After 1948 to 1978 – almost three decades,frustrated Tamil youth formed the liberation forces to protect Tamils from Sinhala chauvinism.
3. Lakshman K, Thondaman etc. are not considered Tamil Leaders ( Yes / No )
There are 2 Thondaman, both were elected by their own people, both have leadership, try to help their people. Many time, they were threten by the state forces to accept gorvernment policies. ya, poor helpless Tamil leaders.
But for Lakshman, only the name is Tamil, he was not elected by the people, but selected by the states for their propaganda purposes. He does not know Tamil. How can he talk to ordinary Tamils without knowing their language. He can’t be a Tamil leader. He is a selected state propaganda agent. even rajapak’s family members were not elected by the people, but selected by rajapaker.
SJV Chelvanayagam is the real Tamil leader.
4. All anti LTTE Tamil Politicians / leaders were involved in Killing Tamil people in Sri Lanka ( Yes / No ) YES
As I mentioned earlier, they are members of paramilitary, still killing Tamils.
By the way another YES for
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=30811
Following the adoption of a Commission proposal on Sri Lanka and GSP+ treatment, Christiane Hohmann, European Commission Spokesperson for Trade said : “The Commission completed a thorough investigation into the human rights situation in Sri Lanka and in particular whether Sri Lanka is living up to the commitments it made to respect international human rights standards when it became a beneficiary of the European Union�s GSP+ trade incentive scheme which provides for additional trade benefits. The report came to the conclusion that there are significant shortcomings in this area and that Sri Lanka is in breach of its GSP+ commitments. After consulting with Member States, the Commission has adopted today a proposal with a view to temporarily suspending these additional trade benefits. EU Member States will have two months in which to decide on it.
YES, this is atlest temporarily good news
Prabakaran’s Daughter Dwaraka’s photos released
http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_16_009.html
LTTE Leaders including Prabhakaran were killed after the surrendered to the Army
http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_16_003.html
Crime commited to their family members too
Hey there Cut and Paste Rohan,
Indeed you are Mentally Challenged to
1. Support a Mentally Challenged Terrorist
2. To cut and paste instead of share your own thoughts
3. Be stupid enough to tell that I say Sorry to Jim instead of understanding the reasoning behind it
4. For calling me a Singhalees – I am not 😀
Let me check out the other comments
U C in france 99% YES 4 Eelam
Don’t get the people in France to laugh from their Anus instead of their face – You seriously are Mentally Challenged to think that the French applauds Eelam – If you are taking of the Sri Lankan “LTTE” Asylum seekers in France, I understand cause if not they will have to come back to Sri Lanka noh ?? I don’t think you will like to do so. Also we are talking about Tamils in SL – not in France. If you want something in SL, you ask the Tamils here… If you can’t understand that you are Mentally challenged 😀
But paramilitary can’t be assumed as Tamil leaders. they are part of Sinhala chauvinism/military machine. Do u want any example, today news
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=30815
So Lakshman K is not a Tamil leader ??
I don’t take Tamilnut to be a credible source – Not a terrorist Mouth peice – never – Sorry…
2. Piribaharan was great leader – (Yes / No) YES for the Cause, no for some of the method adopted.
Partially Mentally challenged ??
YES, he is a symptom of Sinhala chauvinism state. After 1948 to 1978 – almost three decades,frustrated Tamil youth formed the liberation forces to protect Tamils from Sinhala chauvinism.
Then He should have fought against the GOSL not against all the Tamils who opposed him nor the innocent Singhalees or Muslims living in the North and the East. He should have given political leadership and not military leadership. He would have got the support from many overseas governments if he had done so – Why he couldn’t do that ? Because there was no reason or requirement – no government would have supported because it was a false claim. That’s why he tried Military – His own agenda and not fighting for a cause. – Lunetic !! Mentally Challenged 😀
3. Lakshman K, Thondaman etc. are not considered Tamil Leaders ( Yes / No )
There are 2 Thondaman, both were elected by their own people, both have leadership, try to help their people. Many time, they were threten by the state forces to accept gorvernment policies. ya, poor helpless Tamil leaders.
In your dreams my friend – they even got the votes of other ethnic groups who worked in Estates – they represented estate workers and not an Ethnic group – the majority of the Ethnicity was Tamils – true.. But all Estate workers immaterial of Ethnicity voted for them.
But for Lakshman, only the name is Tamil, he was not elected by the people, but selected by the states for their propaganda purposes. He does not know Tamil. How can he talk to ordinary Tamils without knowing their language. He can’t be a Tamil leader. He is a selected state propaganda agent. even rajapak’s family members were not elected by the people, but selected by rajapaker.
LOL – So Lakshman K is not a Tamil for you now ???? This is why I called you Mentally challenged – You don’t respect another persons point of view… How about Neelan T whom you killed ?? He was not Tamil too ?? Ponnambalam ?? Not tamil ? Do I need to give the list ???
SJV Chelvanayagam is the real Tamil leader. – So why not follow his path – not taking guns ??
4. All anti LTTE Tamil Politicians / leaders were involved in Killing Tamil people in Sri Lanka ( Yes / No ) YES
As I mentioned earlier, they are members of paramilitary, still killing Tamils.
The exact answer I expected from you folks.
NOW it is up to the international community and Organizations like AI to realise that these bunch of people are there to satisfy their own agenda where they stoop down to levels of calling the Tamils who are not in favour of their movement to be of a different nature – and they kill them though it is kind of mentioned the other way around here
it is high time that the world get to know that We Sri Lankans do not believe in Ethnic Divide and are Happy to live in this Island as One Nation. There is a minority (very minimal – less than 0.5%) of the population who wishes otherwise for different reasons from which one is to seek asylum in Western countries. There is no proper political reason behind this.
Also Rohan !!
It is you guys who said that Piribaharan’s Daughter fled to India – If so, was she killed by the Indian Forces when she went waving her white “whatever” to them ??
LTTE Leaders including Prabhakaran were killed after the surrendered to the Army
http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_16_003.html
Crime commited to their family members too
Hey Rohan – U know that Wickramabahu is Mentally Challenged too ?? LOL
He get’s only 1000 votes from Whole Sri Lanka every time he contest for Presidential elections – LOL
Bottom line – source not credible !!
However, my personal opinion – You don’t play around with Terrorists. I bet US army will shoot down bin Laden if he comes crawling on all 4..
War criminals has no escape, including Jim Pappa http://www.groundviews.org/2009/12/17/don%E2%80%9…
Jim Pappa Says: knows every thing, say every thing. He must be the master planer for war crimes commited to Tamils. He must be Mentally Challenged WAR CRIMINAL. Better to be away from Mentally Challenged WAR CRIMINAL.
I think he didn't expect answers from Rohan…, good Raohan, keep it up.
War criminals has no escape, including Jim Pappa http://www.groundviews.org/2009/12/17/don%E2%80%9…
Jim Pappa Says: knows every thing, say every thing. He must be the master planer for war crimes commited to Tamils. He must be Mentally Challenged WAR CRIMINAL. Better to be away from Mentally Challenged WAR CRIMINAL.
I think he didn’t expect answers from Rohan…, good Raohan, keep it up.
War criminals has no escape, including Jim Pappa
http://www.groundviews.org/2009/12/17/don%E2%80%99t-mix-up-war-crimes-investigations-with-political-issues-in-sri-lanka/
LOL @ Rohan / truth
Mokada Penala Duwanne ????????
Dude – Yes I know everything – I am Mahinda Rajapakse – LOL 😀 😀 😀 – Just like you know everything and you are ? Hmmm.. let me see, Piribaharan is gone, Nadesan is gone, Bala is long gone, so is Nondiya, KP is under arrest…hmmm.. wonder who … !!!
War criminals are those who kill innocent people for no reason. Not the party who would save innocent people from crutches of Terrorism. !!
Very Funny Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 2:36 am , U Roshan/ then many names../Jim pappa/ then funny/ now very funny/ next Mentally funny,
your comments are funny too. When u use Jim pappa, u say sorry, but when u "Very Funny Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
I asked about your stand ! Not UN !!"
Jim Pappa Says
December 17th, 2009 at 2:41 am
Also Rohan !!
It is you guys who said that Piribaharan’s Daughter fled to India – If so, was she killed by the Indian Forces when she went waving her white “whatever” to them ??
That is your propaganda, your state/allies propaganda, but your forces killed every one family by family. Even Nadesan was killed infront of his wife and then his wife(Singhala women) was killed. http://www.lankanewsweb.com/EN_FEATURE/FEATURE_09…
1st Referendum was in Norway, then france 99% YES for Eelam, now in canada, http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
Very Funny Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 2:36 am , U Roshan/ then many names../Jim pappa/ then funny/ now very funny/ next Mentally funny,
your comments are funny too. When u use Jim pappa, u say sorry, but when u "Very Funny Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
I asked about your stand ! Not UN !!"
Jim Pappa Says
December 17th, 2009 at 2:41 am
Also Rohan !!
It is you guys who said that Piribaharan’s Daughter fled to India – If so, was she killed by the Indian Forces when she went waving her white “whatever” to them ??
That is your propaganda, your state/allies propaganda, but your forces killed every one family by family. Even Nadesan was killed infront of his wife and then his wife(Singhala women) was killed. http://www.lankanewsweb.com/EN_FEATURE/FEATURE_09…
1st Referendum was in Norway, then france 99% YES for Eelam, now in canada, http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&art…
On behalf of your government, Jim Pappa, can you answer?
Sri Lanka's main Opposition leader Ranil Wickramasinghe today sought an explanation from Colombo on former army chief Gen Sarath Fonseka's allegation that some surrendering LTTE leaders were killed on the orders of the government.
"Government must say. We have already asked the government to tell us the background of this," Wickramasinghe, who held talks with External Affairs Minister S M Krishna in Delhi, told reporters here enroute to Colombo on winding up his three-day visit to India. Replying to a question on the charge by opposition Presidential election candidate Fonseka, which he has later subsequently denied, the United National Party (UNP) leader said the Sri Lankan Government should explain in the next Parliament session. "We have heard that they had a discussion. The government has not yet explained. They should explain in the next Parliament session. They can't shift the blame," he said.
Jim pappa, Pl answer 4 this 1 2
Whether the armed group functioning in the Eastern province, belongs to Karuna’s? http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22TmIcc3oO34…
On behalf of your government, Jim Pappa, can you answer?
Sri Lanka's main Opposition leader Ranil Wickramasinghe today sought an explanation from Colombo on former army chief Gen Sarath Fonseka's allegation that some surrendering LTTE leaders were killed on the orders of the government.
"Government must say. We have already asked the government to tell us the background of this," Wickramasinghe, who held talks with External Affairs Minister S M Krishna in Delhi, told reporters here enroute to Colombo on winding up his three-day visit to India. Replying to a question on the charge by opposition Presidential election candidate Fonseka, which he has later subsequently denied, the United National Party (UNP) leader said the Sri Lankan Government should explain in the next Parliament session. "We have heard that they had a discussion. The government has not yet explained. They should explain in the next Parliament session. They can't shift the blame," he said.
Jim pappa, Pl answer 4 this 1 2
Whether the armed group functioning in the Eastern province, belongs to Karuna’s? http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22TmIcc3oO34…
Rohan Rohan Rohan !!!!
On behalf of your government, Jim Pappa, can you answer?
Dude, you might be able to answer on behalf of the LTTE and it's helpless Diaspora. But, I cannot answer on behalf of the GOSL – see I am not in anyway involved with the government of SL and it is indeed a legal entity. Not an illegal entity like the Terrorist, mentally challenged LTTE. I sepak for my self and my future well-being. Not for any other.
Sri Lanka’s main Opposition leader Ranil Wickramasinghe today sought an explanation from Colombo on former army chief Gen Sarath Fonseka’s allegation that some surrendering LTTE leaders were killed on the orders of the government.
So what ?? Ask Ranil ?? Not me.. I don't see any reason why anyone should give any kind of explanation to such allegation anyway in a war situation. However, there is no need for Ranil W to ask such question because SF has said that his statement was misinterpreted. If so, such statement does not carry any validity ha ?? My personal belief is that even if it is so, I totally agree – have had enough for 30 years and I have lost my childhood and I don't want my Children to go through same.
as per your other question, Eastern Province probably has 3 armed groups ya ?? Karuna's Group, Pillayan's Group and then the Government forces with arms. So I guess there are 3 owners 😀 right??
Rohan !
Yes I do change the display name as an when required to suit the matter I put down. I try to stick to Jim Pappa as I don't want to be bothered much with name changes, however, I do when I feel like – Just like you 😀 – But I don't see any issue with regard to that as the content matter is what matters and not the name. none of us will obviously display our real names here ha ??
Anyways, about Piribaharan's daughter, I very well remember you guys saying that she is safe in UK and then in India – so can you blame the GOSL now ??
BTW, who told you that they surrendered and was shot dead upon surrendering ? We never heard of such thing than the recent paper article claiming SF told so, which he denounce… ??
As per the referendum, Good luck – may be you can get a few acres to start eelam in those countries. You can try learn a lesson from Protegees who invaded SL – remember the Bull's skin story ??
LOL @ Rohan / truth
Mokada Penala Duwanne ????????
Dude – Yes I know everything – I am Mahinda Rajapakse – LOL 😀 😀 😀 – Just like you know everything and you are ? Hmmm.. let me see, Piribaharan is gone, Nadesan is gone, Bala is long gone, so is Nondiya, KP is under arrest…hmmm.. wonder who … !!!
War criminals are those who kill innocent people for no reason. Not the party who would save innocent people from crutches of Terrorism. !!
Very Funny Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 2:36 am , U Roshan/ then many names../Jim pappa/ then funny/ now very funny/ next Mentally funny,
your comments are funny too. When u use Jim pappa, u say sorry, but when u “Very Funny Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
I asked about your stand ! Not UN !!”
Jim Pappa Says
December 17th, 2009 at 2:41 am
Also Rohan !!
It is you guys who said that Piribaharan’s Daughter fled to India – If so, was she killed by the Indian Forces when she went waving her white “whatever” to them ??
That is your propaganda, your state/allies propaganda, but your forces killed every one family by family. Even Nadesan was killed infront of his wife and then his wife(Singhala women) was killed.
http://www.lankanewsweb.com/EN_FEATURE/FEATURE_09_12_15_001.html
1st Referendum was in Norway, then france 99% YES for Eelam, now in canada,
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=30819
On behalf of your government, Jim Pappa, can you answer?
Sri Lanka’s main Opposition leader Ranil Wickramasinghe today sought an explanation from Colombo on former army chief Gen Sarath Fonseka’s allegation that some surrendering LTTE leaders were killed on the orders of the government.
“Government must say. We have already asked the government to tell us the background of this,” Wickramasinghe, who held talks with External Affairs Minister S M Krishna in Delhi, told reporters here enroute to Colombo on winding up his three-day visit to India. Replying to a question on the charge by opposition Presidential election candidate Fonseka, which he has later subsequently denied, the United National Party (UNP) leader said the Sri Lankan Government should explain in the next Parliament session. “We have heard that they had a discussion. The government has not yet explained. They should explain in the next Parliament session. They can’t shift the blame,” he said.
Jim pappa, Pl answer 4 this 1 2
Whether the armed group functioning in the Eastern province, belongs to Karuna’s?
http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22TmIcc3oO34doYd302JOo4d2YlH0aL5A3e2KMC3a34Bfe
Rohan Rohan Rohan !!!!
On behalf of your government, Jim Pappa, can you answer?
Dude, you might be able to answer on behalf of the LTTE and it’s helpless Diaspora. But, I cannot answer on behalf of the GOSL – see I am not in anyway involved with the government of SL and it is indeed a legal entity. Not an illegal entity like the Terrorist, mentally challenged LTTE. I sepak for my self and my future well-being. Not for any other.
Sri Lanka’s main Opposition leader Ranil Wickramasinghe today sought an explanation from Colombo on former army chief Gen Sarath Fonseka’s allegation that some surrendering LTTE leaders were killed on the orders of the government.
So what ?? Ask Ranil ?? Not me.. I don’t see any reason why anyone should give any kind of explanation to such allegation anyway in a war situation. However, there is no need for Ranil W to ask such question because SF has said that his statement was misinterpreted. If so, such statement does not carry any validity ha ?? My personal belief is that even if it is so, I totally agree – have had enough for 30 years and I have lost my childhood and I don’t want my Children to go through same.
as per your other question, Eastern Province probably has 3 armed groups ya ?? Karuna’s Group, Pillayan’s Group and then the Government forces with arms. So I guess there are 3 owners 😀 right??
Rohan !
Yes I do change the display name as an when required to suit the matter I put down. I try to stick to Jim Pappa as I don’t want to be bothered much with name changes, however, I do when I feel like – Just like you 😀 – But I don’t see any issue with regard to that as the content matter is what matters and not the name. none of us will obviously display our real names here ha ??
Anyways, about Piribaharan’s daughter, I very well remember you guys saying that she is safe in UK and then in India – so can you blame the GOSL now ??
BTW, who told you that they surrendered and was shot dead upon surrendering ? We never heard of such thing than the recent paper article claiming SF told so, which he denounce… ??
As per the referendum, Good luck – may be you can get a few acres to start eelam in those countries. You can try learn a lesson from Protegees who invaded SL – remember the Bull’s skin story ??
Jim Pappa
" Anyways, about Piribaharan’s daughter, I very well remember you guys saying that she is safe in UK and then in India – so can you blame the GOSL now ?? "
You describe this despicable murder of a young Tamil girl with such a giddy laugh ?!?!
It is sickening !!!!!!
I always wonder , why the female combatants dead bodies are strip naked and spread –eagled ?
Where do the Sinhalese checking their identifications?? Between the dead women’s legs ?
Degrading amd humiliating -even in death -is a vile and depraved act of pure evil !!!
http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22TmIcc3oO34…
Jim Pappa
" Anyways, about Piribaharan’s daughter, I very well remember you guys saying that she is safe in UK and then in India – so can you blame the GOSL now ?? "
You describe this despicable murder of a young Tamil girl with such a giddy laugh ?!?!
It is sickening !!!!!!
I always wonder , why the female combatants dead bodies are strip naked and spread –eagled ?
Where do the Sinhalese checking their identifications?? Between the dead women’s legs ?
Degrading amd humiliating -even in death -is a vile and depraved act of pure evil !!!
http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22TmIcc3oO34…
Jim Pappa
” Anyways, about Piribaharan’s daughter, I very well remember you guys saying that she is safe in UK and then in India – so can you blame the GOSL now ?? ”
You describe this despicable murder of a young Tamil girl with such a giddy laugh ?!?!
It is sickening !!!!!!
I always wonder , why the female combatants dead bodies are strip naked and spread –eagled ?
Where do the Sinhalese checking their identifications?? Between the dead women’s legs ?
Degrading amd humiliating -even in death -is a vile and depraved act of pure evil !!!
http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22TmIcc3oO34doYd302JOo4d2Yl30aL5A3e2KMC3a34B5e
This is SLA's culture on minorities http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/20/tamil…
This is SLA's culture on minorities http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/20/tamil…
Jim Pappa Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 2:03 am
"As per the referendum, Good luck"
Thanks Jim pappa
99.9% Canadian Tamils mandated Independent State by Voting YES to the Vaddukoaddai Resolution http://www.tamileelamnews.com/news/publish/tns_12…
Jim Pappa Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 2:03 am
"As per the referendum, Good luck"
Thanks Jim pappa
99.9% Canadian Tamils mandated Independent State by Voting YES to the Vaddukoaddai Resolution http://www.tamileelamnews.com/news/publish/tns_12…
This is SLA’s culture on minorities
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/20/tamil-tigers-sri-lanka-refugees
Jim Pappa Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 2:03 am
“As per the referendum, Good luck”
Thanks Jim pappa
99.9% Canadian Tamils mandated Independent State by Voting YES to the Vaddukoaddai Resolution
http://www.tamileelamnews.com/news/publish/tns_12164.shtml
The Canadian Tamil community has voted on the following question:
I aspire for the formation of the independent and sovereign state of Tamil Eelam in the North and East territory of the Island of Sri Lanka on the basis that the Tamils in the Island of Sri Lanka make a distinct nation, have a traditional homeland and have the right to Self-Determination. http://www.tamilelections.ca/english.shtml
well done!!!
The Canadian Tamil community has voted on the following question:
I aspire for the formation of the independent and sovereign state of Tamil Eelam in the North and East territory of the Island of Sri Lanka on the basis that the Tamils in the Island of Sri Lanka make a distinct nation, have a traditional homeland and have the right to Self-Determination. http://www.tamilelections.ca/english.shtml
well done!!!
The Canadian Tamil community has voted on the following question:
I aspire for the formation of the independent and sovereign state of Tamil Eelam in the North and East territory of the Island of Sri Lanka on the basis that the Tamils in the Island of Sri Lanka make a distinct nation, have a traditional homeland and have the right to Self-Determination.
http://www.tamilelections.ca/english.shtml
well done!!!
You describe this despicable murder of a young Tamil girl with such a giddy laugh ?!?!
T Numb !!
You describe this despicable murder of a young Tamil girl with such a giddy laugh ?!?!
It is sickening !!!!!!
I don't know how you found humour in my comment to make the comment "Giddy Laugh" ???? 😕 – Did I have a 😀 in that sentence ?? – If you thought of it in that way, it is you who are SICK !! 🙁 – You don't laugh when someone is murdered for sure, but Piribaharan's death defa was a mixture of feelings – raise of eyebrows and also a slight smile on face. But, imagine how many times he would have done it when zillions of people were killed by his brutality ? Imagine how he would have smiled when he got to know that Lakshman K was killed ?? I only hope that you, being his faithful followers did not !!
I always wonder , why the female combatants dead bodies are strip naked and spread –eagled ?
Where do the Sinhalese checking their identifications?? Between the dead women’s legs ?
Degrading amd humiliating -even in death -is a vile and depraved act of pure evil !!!
I wonder how you know about this stripping stuff – even Piribha was stripped ya ?? not only to check whether he actually had balls, but, I am no doctor, I guess it is kinda necessary to do so for some reason ?? Why not ask a doc ? I am sure no one wanted to molest dead Piriba though lot would have said "Ahu Unoth @#$% Arinawa" 😀
You also need to see some of the scenes from Gulf war – after shelling, most cloths do get burned ha ? You see a load of Talibhan fighters almost naked – you see the AL army dead soldiers naked – may be it is to do with the burning that occurs and a war expert could describe better – Unless you want to say that the very governments that give you the dole (i.e. USA / Canada etc.) are molesting the Dead Taliban terrors. – In my mind, for you to think of such disgusting matter, you should be really sick 🙁 🙁 🙁
Brother Rohan !!
99.9% Canadian Tamils mandated Independent State by Voting YES to the Vaddukoaddai Resolution
I aspire for the formation of the independent and sovereign state of Tamil Eelam in the North and East territory of the Island of Sri Lanka on the basis that the Tamils in the Island of Sri Lanka make a distinct nation, have a traditional homeland and have the right to Self-Determination.
Do you think that the Sri Lankan government or the Canadian government or any government for that matter would care a Rat's A$$ for a referendum passed by a few people living in Canada ?? If majority of Canada said that, it would have at least some impact. Even if so, what do we in SL care of ?? If the Tamils in SL say that, then it is a huge issue and we need to have a serious though – but we don't see that here.. Almost all groups are with the President MR or with Sarath F ???? 😕
And for the Zillionth time, this traditional homeland story is Bull Dung – you really need to get a life than to believe this crap mannn !! You really have been brain washed !
You describe this despicable murder of a young Tamil girl with such a giddy laugh ?!?!
T Numb !!
You describe this despicable murder of a young Tamil girl with such a giddy laugh ?!?!
It is sickening !!!!!!
I don’t know how you found humour in my comment to make the comment “Giddy Laugh” ???? 😕 – Did I have a 😀 in that sentence ?? – If you thought of it in that way, it is you who are SICK !! 🙁 – You don’t laugh when someone is murdered for sure, but Piribaharan’s death defa was a mixture of feelings – raise of eyebrows and also a slight smile on face. But, imagine how many times he would have done it when zillions of people were killed by his brutality ? Imagine how he would have smiled when he got to know that Lakshman K was killed ?? I only hope that you, being his faithful followers did not !!
I always wonder , why the female combatants dead bodies are strip naked and spread –eagled ?
Where do the Sinhalese checking their identifications?? Between the dead women’s legs ?
Degrading amd humiliating -even in death -is a vile and depraved act of pure evil !!!
I wonder how you know about this stripping stuff – even Piribha was stripped ya ?? not only to check whether he actually had balls, but, I am no doctor, I guess it is kinda necessary to do so for some reason ?? Why not ask a doc ? I am sure no one wanted to molest dead Piriba though lot would have said “Ahu Unoth @#$% Arinawa” 😀
You also need to see some of the scenes from Gulf war – after shelling, most cloths do get burned ha ? You see a load of Talibhan fighters almost naked – you see the AL army dead soldiers naked – may be it is to do with the burning that occurs and a war expert could describe better – Unless you want to say that the very governments that give you the dole (i.e. USA / Canada etc.) are molesting the Dead Taliban terrors. – In my mind, for you to think of such disgusting matter, you should be really sick 🙁 🙁 🙁
Brother Rohan !!
99.9% Canadian Tamils mandated Independent State by Voting YES to the Vaddukoaddai Resolution
I aspire for the formation of the independent and sovereign state of Tamil Eelam in the North and East territory of the Island of Sri Lanka on the basis that the Tamils in the Island of Sri Lanka make a distinct nation, have a traditional homeland and have the right to Self-Determination.
Do you think that the Sri Lankan government or the Canadian government or any government for that matter would care a Rat’s A$$ for a referendum passed by a few people living in Canada ?? If majority of Canada said that, it would have at least some impact. Even if so, what do we in SL care of ?? If the Tamils in SL say that, then it is a huge issue and we need to have a serious though – but we don’t see that here.. Almost all groups are with the President MR or with Sarath F ???? 😕
And for the Zillionth time, this traditional homeland story is Bull Dung – you really need to get a life than to believe this crap mannn !! You really have been brain washed !
jim pappa, UN ask from u? http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeq…
jim pappa, UN ask from u? http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeq…
jim pappa, UN ask from u?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j-Ve7ZwMMduQLC88El9Pmercyg7g
Jim Pappa Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 11:02 pm
"In SL’s case, we have video evidence of how they were killed. When the army marched in front, they found the bodies lying dead already"
very interesting, how do u know, UN may ask 4 a an evident in the future and u need to make an movie on this. Still no media allowed even after 6 months. who was the camara man?, did UN send a high tech camera wirh camera man? oh ya , from the movie is it possible to find the time U murdered them? it is a good story 4 kids? what these days kids will ask many more Q's than us.
I fd a good link
Massacres of Tamils by Sri lanka State Terror from 1956 http://www.topix.com/forum/world/sri-lanka/TPHS2B…
In Hell / Rohan,
Yes, UN also asked from Israel and they had evidence against them. UK court filed a suit against Israel and withdrew as Israel threatened to withdraw Relationship with Britain ha ?? Un still has got no reply from Israel or USA re. Gaza.
In SL's case, we have video evidence of how they were killed. When the army marched in front, they found the bodies lying dead already – We will show this to UN. Even General SF will witness these videos. 😀
Jim Pappa Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 11:02 pm
"In SL’s case, we have video evidence of how they were killed. When the army marched in front, they found the bodies lying dead already"
very interesting, how do u know, UN may ask 4 a an evident in the future and u need to make an movie on this. Still no media allowed even after 6 months. who was the camara man?, did UN send a high tech camera wirh camera man? oh ya , from the movie is it possible to find the time U murdered them? it is a good story 4 kids? what these days kids will ask many more Q's than us.
I fd a good link
Massacres of Tamils by Sri lanka State Terror from 1956 http://www.topix.com/forum/world/sri-lanka/TPHS2B…
Rohan !
UN has asked for Video evidence – So we shall give the stuff we have.
We don't make movies like some of you do with horrid actors who shake legs after dying :D..
Actually, we do have the media footage of this – from Derana and Swarnawahini which could be produced if I am correct. Unfortunately, I would not know the name of the Camera Men as i don't know any of them personally. Who said media is not allowed, we get enough media coverage of the areas – why not you ??
I am not sure whether the camera men have entered or turned on the "time" function on the footage, if so, yes it will be.
However, what you, my dear small child need to understand is that it's all the physical evidence the world would ever have on it..
In Hell / Rohan,
Yes, UN also asked from Israel and they had evidence against them. UK court filed a suit against Israel and withdrew as Israel threatened to withdraw Relationship with Britain ha ?? Un still has got no reply from Israel or USA re. Gaza.
In SL’s case, we have video evidence of how they were killed. When the army marched in front, they found the bodies lying dead already – We will show this to UN. Even General SF will witness these videos. 😀
Jim Pappa Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 11:02 pm
“In SL’s case, we have video evidence of how they were killed. When the army marched in front, they found the bodies lying dead already”
very interesting, how do u know, UN may ask 4 a an evident in the future and u need to make an movie on this. Still no media allowed even after 6 months. who was the camara man?, did UN send a high tech camera wirh camera man? oh ya , from the movie is it possible to find the time U murdered them? it is a good story 4 kids? what these days kids will ask many more Q’s than us.
I fd a good link
Massacres of Tamils by Sri lanka State Terror from 1956
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/sri-lanka/TPHS2BRT61CRONBGP
Rohan !
UN has asked for Video evidence – So we shall give the stuff we have.
We don’t make movies like some of you do with horrid actors who shake legs after dying :D..
Actually, we do have the media footage of this – from Derana and Swarnawahini which could be produced if I am correct. Unfortunately, I would not know the name of the Camera Men as i don’t know any of them personally. Who said media is not allowed, we get enough media coverage of the areas – why not you ??
I am not sure whether the camera men have entered or turned on the “time” function on the footage, if so, yes it will be.
However, what you, my dear small child need to understand is that it’s all the physical evidence the world would ever have on it..
Sacrifices made by this young girl will only strengthen our resolve to intensify our involvement more and more towards the cause of the struggle .
But our heart bleeds at the sufferings undergone by our people…
In history I have never come across a leader who has put himself and his family on par with his people and sacrificed everything for the cause.
http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22TmIcc3oO34…
Sacrifices made by this young girl will only strengthen our resolve to intensify our involvement more and more towards the cause of the struggle .
But our heart bleeds at the sufferings undergone by our people…
In history I have never come across a leader who has put himself and his family on par with his people and sacrificed everything for the cause.
http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22TmIcc3oO34…
2042 years ago Jesus Christ was born to fulfill a promise made to redeem the world of sin and save mankind from hell. The birth of Christ which was awaited for years with interest by sages and Kings did not take place in a palace or a beautiful home. There were no royalty or dignitary to receive him. Was he born in his parental house or a decent hospital? The answer is no. His birth took place in a manger, away from the home and country of his parents, who at the time of his birth could have been described as internally displaced.
Yes, internally displaced, because his parents Joseph and Mary had to leave Nazareth and go to Bethlehem, their city of birth for enumeration. Joseph and Mary even though they were of royal descent did not have sufficient resources to book into a decent place or hotel for the arrival of the precious child. They were turned away from inns and hotels which were said to be full.
Born in the manger covered with straw and watched by rams, ewes and the Shepherds shorn of any semblance of luxury for a divine child. The swathing clothes in which he was wrapped at birth was a forerunner of the bandages that were to cover his body, when he was laid in the tomb. There were many attempts on his life within days of his birth, but they were all averted with divine intervention.
Many infants became victims of those attempts to kill him. The world that despised him at birth as well as when he preached the good news of an after-life, mocked him, tortured him made him carry a cross and killed him like a criminal. The Jews considered Barabbas, a convict and murderer more eligible to live than Jesus.
Today Christmas is celebrated in all nooks and corners of the world. Preparations for Christmas start very early in the year, not only among the Christians, but among every other group of persons who wants to make a quick buck or two. The house decorator, the textile trader, furniture dealer, travel agent, hotelier and others who benefit from making Christmas a season to make money. The birth of Christ and the Christmas day have now become symbols of trade.
Even the Christians who celebrate Christmas think of lavish food, drinks, new dresses and entertainments as the main events in their Christmas wish list. No one thinks of the have-nots around the world or those just next to them who do not even possess a change of dress or have a square meal. Jesus Christ resides among the internally displaced persons around the world, who have been rendered homeless. He is there in Rwanda, Darfur, Palestine and Ceylon, now Sri Lanka, where citizens are denied even the basic human rights. The right to walk in their own country without fear or to seek employment or to engage in agriculture, fishing or any other pursuit.
The words Internally displaced persons or IDPs, have been mentioned millions of times in the newspaper, radio, television, from public platforms and in private conversations. How does a person become an IDP? In Sri Lanka, the entire Tamil community became internally displaced due to the government of the country waging a war with her own people, who wanted certain rights as human beings in the land of their birth. The war lasted over sixty years since independence, aided and abetted by several countries, who instead of mediating, have remained patient observers or co-conspirators to support a genocide on the citizens of that country.
Like Mary, there have been thousands of Tamil mothers, who were internally displaced while being pregnant. Bizarre stories coming from the witness-less war zone tells of forced abortion performed on those mothers by government doctors on the orders of the government. There is similarity between the abortions of unborn Tamil children in Sri Lanka's war zone and the massacre of children ordered by Herod with the hope of killing baby Jesus.
There are plenty of messages emanating from the President and or his Ministers, wishing the people merry Christmas and extending to them their share of the joy. However, thousands and thousands of civilians continue to live under sub-human conditions in temporary huts, enclosed by barbed wire fences and supervised around the clock by armed guards with order to shoot in the democratic republic called Sri Lanka.
The Tamil people have during the last fifty to sixty Christmas seasons endured brutal bombings of churches and places of worship. Can we forget what happened on Christmas mid-night mass at the Cathedral in Batticaloa, where the Tamil Member of Parliament was brutally killed in the presence of the Bishop, clergy and thousands of worshippers? Several years have passed, but the hidden hand that drew the trigger could not be identified by the government of this democracy. Terrorism was a pass word used to subjugate the Tamils and arrest innocent civilians under draconian laws that has no place in a democratic society.
The President has called for an election, hoping that the victories gained by subduing the Tamils (his country men), who wanted their birth right, will have him returned. His promise of settling the sixty year old Constitutional problem after his re-election is a ploy to satisfy the UN and other world bodies. The contestant for Presidency with him is his former Army Commander whose attitude towards the Tamils is well known. For the Tamils it is a "Hobson's choice". They hunted the Tamils collectively. Now they want to have a chance to annihilate them completely. Another bleak Christmas and yet another uneventful new year are expected for those Tamils, Rwandans, Kenyans and Palestinians who have become internally displaced in their own lands.
Canada's Parliament has been discussing for the last weeks about the Taliban detainees being given to the Afghan soldiers for abuse, but in Sri Lanka the Tamils have been brutally abused without discrimination of age, gender or civil status for so many years. There is none to take up the case of those abuses. The media personnel, the members of Parliament, pregnant mothers, babies, and seniors, have been victims of a government's brutal rule.
Law and order are absent in a country, where law enforcers are fully involved in killing the innocent, like those young babies sacrificed in the story of the pursuit of Jesus, protected through Divine intervention. Unfortunately, in this situation there are no such underlying circumstances, no Saviour in waiting… no hope?
Truth come out
Thanks for informative post and just in time for Christmas 🙂
Happy Holidays to ALL , AI and Jim McDonald !!!
Sacrifices made by this young girl will only strengthen our resolve to intensify our involvement more and more towards the cause of the struggle .
But our heart bleeds at the sufferings undergone by our people…
In history I have never come across a leader who has put himself and his family on par with his people and sacrificed everything for the cause.
http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22TmIcc3oO34doYd302JOo4d2Yl30aL5A3e2KMC3a34B5e
2042 years ago Jesus Christ was born to fulfill a promise made to redeem the world of sin and save mankind from hell. The birth of Christ which was awaited for years with interest by sages and Kings did not take place in a palace or a beautiful home. There were no royalty or dignitary to receive him. Was he born in his parental house or a decent hospital? The answer is no. His birth took place in a manger, away from the home and country of his parents, who at the time of his birth could have been described as internally displaced.
Yes, internally displaced, because his parents Joseph and Mary had to leave Nazareth and go to Bethlehem, their city of birth for enumeration. Joseph and Mary even though they were of royal descent did not have sufficient resources to book into a decent place or hotel for the arrival of the precious child. They were turned away from inns and hotels which were said to be full.
Born in the manger covered with straw and watched by rams, ewes and the Shepherds shorn of any semblance of luxury for a divine child. The swathing clothes in which he was wrapped at birth was a forerunner of the bandages that were to cover his body, when he was laid in the tomb. There were many attempts on his life within days of his birth, but they were all averted with divine intervention.
Many infants became victims of those attempts to kill him. The world that despised him at birth as well as when he preached the good news of an after-life, mocked him, tortured him made him carry a cross and killed him like a criminal. The Jews considered Barabbas, a convict and murderer more eligible to live than Jesus.
Today Christmas is celebrated in all nooks and corners of the world. Preparations for Christmas start very early in the year, not only among the Christians, but among every other group of persons who wants to make a quick buck or two. The house decorator, the textile trader, furniture dealer, travel agent, hotelier and others who benefit from making Christmas a season to make money. The birth of Christ and the Christmas day have now become symbols of trade.
Even the Christians who celebrate Christmas think of lavish food, drinks, new dresses and entertainments as the main events in their Christmas wish list. No one thinks of the have-nots around the world or those just next to them who do not even possess a change of dress or have a square meal. Jesus Christ resides among the internally displaced persons around the world, who have been rendered homeless. He is there in Rwanda, Darfur, Palestine and Ceylon, now Sri Lanka, where citizens are denied even the basic human rights. The right to walk in their own country without fear or to seek employment or to engage in agriculture, fishing or any other pursuit.
The words Internally displaced persons or IDPs, have been mentioned millions of times in the newspaper, radio, television, from public platforms and in private conversations. How does a person become an IDP? In Sri Lanka, the entire Tamil community became internally displaced due to the government of the country waging a war with her own people, who wanted certain rights as human beings in the land of their birth. The war lasted over sixty years since independence, aided and abetted by several countries, who instead of mediating, have remained patient observers or co-conspirators to support a genocide on the citizens of that country.
Like Mary, there have been thousands of Tamil mothers, who were internally displaced while being pregnant. Bizarre stories coming from the witness-less war zone tells of forced abortion performed on those mothers by government doctors on the orders of the government. There is similarity between the abortions of unborn Tamil children in Sri Lanka’s war zone and the massacre of children ordered by Herod with the hope of killing baby Jesus.
There are plenty of messages emanating from the President and or his Ministers, wishing the people merry Christmas and extending to them their share of the joy. However, thousands and thousands of civilians continue to live under sub-human conditions in temporary huts, enclosed by barbed wire fences and supervised around the clock by armed guards with order to shoot in the democratic republic called Sri Lanka.
The Tamil people have during the last fifty to sixty Christmas seasons endured brutal bombings of churches and places of worship. Can we forget what happened on Christmas mid-night mass at the Cathedral in Batticaloa, where the Tamil Member of Parliament was brutally killed in the presence of the Bishop, clergy and thousands of worshippers? Several years have passed, but the hidden hand that drew the trigger could not be identified by the government of this democracy. Terrorism was a pass word used to subjugate the Tamils and arrest innocent civilians under draconian laws that has no place in a democratic society.
The President has called for an election, hoping that the victories gained by subduing the Tamils (his country men), who wanted their birth right, will have him returned. His promise of settling the sixty year old Constitutional problem after his re-election is a ploy to satisfy the UN and other world bodies. The contestant for Presidency with him is his former Army Commander whose attitude towards the Tamils is well known. For the Tamils it is a “Hobson’s choice”. They hunted the Tamils collectively. Now they want to have a chance to annihilate them completely. Another bleak Christmas and yet another uneventful new year are expected for those Tamils, Rwandans, Kenyans and Palestinians who have become internally displaced in their own lands.
Canada’s Parliament has been discussing for the last weeks about the Taliban detainees being given to the Afghan soldiers for abuse, but in Sri Lanka the Tamils have been brutally abused without discrimination of age, gender or civil status for so many years. There is none to take up the case of those abuses. The media personnel, the members of Parliament, pregnant mothers, babies, and seniors, have been victims of a government’s brutal rule.
Law and order are absent in a country, where law enforcers are fully involved in killing the innocent, like those young babies sacrificed in the story of the pursuit of Jesus, protected through Divine intervention. Unfortunately, in this situation there are no such underlying circumstances, no Saviour in waiting… no hope?
Truth come out
Thanks for informative post and just in time for Christmas 🙂
Happy Holidays to ALL , AI and Jim McDonald !!!
International inquiry will expose the criminals, why sri lanka not allowing any international inquiry? sri lanka is a demo-crazy country?
On Sri Lankan Killings, As Alston Asks Rajapaksas, Why Not UN's Nambiar? http://www.innercitypress.com/slanka1alston122109…
Rohan (truth)
I applaud the a pathetic attempt you have made to make the story of Jesus and the story of innocent Tamil civilians alike. Someone with lesser knowladge on happenings here would actually think it is right. Let me take some exerts from the article as I cannot waste time repeating stuff I have mentioned before on many forums here.
The right to walk in their own country without fear or to seek employment or to engage in agriculture, fishing or any other pursuit.
Who says so ? We today enjoy the food brought in from Jaffna and many new vegetable items are now cultivated in Jaffna by people who were forced to take the gun instead of the Rakes and Shovels. We eat the delicious Crabs and Prawns farmed by the Jaffna fisherman who's boats were used for suicide missions by the Terrorist group you support. There is no fear anywhere as you try to describe. – Do Not Lie !!
In Sri Lanka, the entire Tamil community became internally displaced due to the government of the country waging a war with her own people, who wanted certain rights as human beings in the land of their birth.
Again rubbish – Mr. Thambaiah has been living in his Colombo house for the past 50 years and prior to that it was his fathers. You call him displaced ?? My friend Thiya's dad and mom are living in Jaffna with all the trouble they had to go through for the past 40 + years in their ancestral homes. Not displaced ha ?? There were 300,000 + tamils who were displaced – Ture – but do you wish to call them the whole Tamil community of the country ?? What rubbish – either your English so bad you don't have the required skills to write things right or it is your deliberate pathetic attempt to mislead the public. Majority of Tamils vehemently condemned the LTTE – that is the truth and you guys who supported them know this truth too…. They lived quite peacefully and happilly in other parts of the Island while you were suffering for nothing. In Singhlala we call this "Illan Kanawa" (Asking and eating)
Can we forget what happened on Christmas mid-night mass at the Cathedral in Batticaloa, where the Tamil Member of Parliament was brutally killed in the presence of the Bishop, clergy and thousands of worshippers?
Who killed him ? Your God – Piribaharan and his LTTE… Not Jesus Christ or Herald…
The President has called for an election, hoping that the victories gained by subduing the Tamils (his country men), who wanted their birth right, will have him returned.
He has support from More tamil groups than General SF – doesn't thins go against the story you are trying to say here ???? If he wins, he surely will have quite a number of Tamil votes in it too… So role up the subduing story and stick it up your "Papa Roach".
In Sri Lanka the Tamils have been brutally abused without discrimination of age, gender or civil status for so many years.
Again Rubbish…… As I mentioned before, majority of the Tamils were and are living peacefully in all parts of the land with other Ethnic groups. no brutality came up on them ? It was a minority who supported the Mentally Challenged Piribaharan who dug their own graves.
All in all, you have disgraced Jesus Christ by trying to get the good lord involved in your Terrorist Comments. Think to your self whether Jesus would have admired what you have mentioned and what your Mentally Challenged leader did to Thousands of civilians.
Merry Christmas !!
International inquiry will expose the criminals, why sri lanka not allowing any international inquiry? sri lanka is a demo-crazy country?
On Sri Lankan Killings, As Alston Asks Rajapaksas, Why Not UN's Nambiar? http://www.innercitypress.com/slanka1alston122109…
Pappa u alway ay pirabakaran killed, even in 1956, could he born in 1954
Inginiyakala massacre 05.06.1956
In the 1940s, the Minister of Agriculture at that time created several Sinhala settlements in the Amparai district using state funds. The minister created the Galoya development scheme in the Amparai district and the Kantalai and Allai development scheme in the Trincomalee district and brought Sinhala settlers for these schemes from other districts. They were given several incentives. Police and military protection were given as well. Buddhist temples were built and big bells were fixed to these temples. An arbitrary declaration was made that wherever the ringing of these bells could be heard are lands belonging to Sinhala Buddhist people. In this land grab, land belonging to Tamils and Muslims were confiscated. Thikavabi is a Sinhala settlement created in this manner. In the parliamentary elections of 1956, S W R D Bandaranayake was elected as the new prime minister.
He submitted to the parliament the Sinhala Only law which was his campaign promise. The main Tamil political party of that time decided to protest this law peacefully. On 05.06.1956, it launched a Satyagragha protest in front of the old parliament building in the Gale Face beach in Colombo. Tamil politicians from all political parties joined in this protest. Fr Thaninayagam, a priest and a world famous Tamil language expert also joined the protest. This protest was attacked by Sinhala thugs on that same day it was launched. Following this attack shops in Colombo owned by Tamils were looted and then the shops were burnt down. Tamil people were attacked. Echoing this violence, pogrom
against Tamils broke out throughout the island. In the Amparai district the recently settled Sinhala thugs started violent attacks against the Tamils. 150 Tamils working in a sugar cane farm and factory in Inginiyagala under the Galoya scheme were killed. The bodies of the dead and injured were thrown on a fire. This is the first large scale massacre of Tamil in the island and many more followed over the following decades. The book “Emergency 58” by Tarzi Vittachi stated that 150 Tamils were killed in this pogrom.
Rohan,
I did read this article you have posted on the Inginiyagala issue etc.. yesterday. You had posted the link and I don't see why you had to cut and paste the article instead of referring to the article ?? Most astonishing is the moderators who turn a blind eye to it… 😕
Anyways, if I go back to the history dear Rohan, I can bring out many instances where this tiny Island was attacked by south Indian parties and where zillions of innocent Singhlala citizens were massacred and our heritage smashed to the floor. Most of the kingdoms of SL are in ruins today because of these attacks of those decedents are you guys… Take for example the water fountains of Sigiriya, if that technology was preserved, today, we could have done the whole world and the nature a favour of letting them know how to pump water to higher grounds without electricity ha ?? There would have been lesser impact on earth where Obama or any wouldn't have to tear their hair off to think how to save the planet or burn less fuel…
Now, I feel that you still should be thankful to our forefathers who actually did not chase all you guys back to where you came from, but pardoned you and let you live among us. This included the great king Dutugamunu, who after Elara (a chola king – not Tamil) ensured that all Chola's who came down and settled here were looked after well. He clearly stated and it is mentioned in the oldest book of a nation – the Mahavansa as "This fight is not against the Chola's (ethnic group), it is against the people who have unlawfully held our land" !
So, if you are going to throw an incident that happened a mere 60 years ago on to my face, remember, I can list from year 2000 B.C. about your unlawful activities.
Coming to the incident of Inginiyagala, this was fueled by the low insightful-ness of Ponnambalam. As much as we respect him as a good leader, sometimes, this mindless activities do create communal riots, as in case of Bati, where Tamils used to get harassed by Muslims vise verse.
In any country that is multi-communal, you can expect these kind of fights – take India (your motherland) for an example…. It even happens in USA – (Doesn't it happen in Canada or France ?) – Hence, to make a big issue out of it means that you have a different agenda or you are mentally challenged as Piribaharan – I hope that it is your agenda as I don't wish to see you as a retarded.
Rohan (truth)
I applaud the a pathetic attempt you have made to make the story of Jesus and the story of innocent Tamil civilians alike. Someone with lesser knowladge on happenings here would actually think it is right. Let me take some exerts from the article as I cannot waste time repeating stuff I have mentioned before on many forums here.
The right to walk in their own country without fear or to seek employment or to engage in agriculture, fishing or any other pursuit.
Who says so ? We today enjoy the food brought in from Jaffna and many new vegetable items are now cultivated in Jaffna by people who were forced to take the gun instead of the Rakes and Shovels. We eat the delicious Crabs and Prawns farmed by the Jaffna fisherman who’s boats were used for suicide missions by the Terrorist group you support. There is no fear anywhere as you try to describe. – Do Not Lie !!
In Sri Lanka, the entire Tamil community became internally displaced due to the government of the country waging a war with her own people, who wanted certain rights as human beings in the land of their birth.
Again rubbish – Mr. Thambaiah has been living in his Colombo house for the past 50 years and prior to that it was his fathers. You call him displaced ?? My friend Thiya’s dad and mom are living in Jaffna with all the trouble they had to go through for the past 40 + years in their ancestral homes. Not displaced ha ?? There were 300,000 + tamils who were displaced – Ture – but do you wish to call them the whole Tamil community of the country ?? What rubbish – either your English so bad you don’t have the required skills to write things right or it is your deliberate pathetic attempt to mislead the public. Majority of Tamils vehemently condemned the LTTE – that is the truth and you guys who supported them know this truth too…. They lived quite peacefully and happilly in other parts of the Island while you were suffering for nothing. In Singhlala we call this “Illan Kanawa” (Asking and eating)
Can we forget what happened on Christmas mid-night mass at the Cathedral in Batticaloa, where the Tamil Member of Parliament was brutally killed in the presence of the Bishop, clergy and thousands of worshippers?
Who killed him ? Your God – Piribaharan and his LTTE… Not Jesus Christ or Herald…
The President has called for an election, hoping that the victories gained by subduing the Tamils (his country men), who wanted their birth right, will have him returned.
He has support from More tamil groups than General SF – doesn’t thins go against the story you are trying to say here ???? If he wins, he surely will have quite a number of Tamil votes in it too… So role up the subduing story and stick it up your “Papa Roach”.
In Sri Lanka the Tamils have been brutally abused without discrimination of age, gender or civil status for so many years.
Again Rubbish…… As I mentioned before, majority of the Tamils were and are living peacefully in all parts of the land with other Ethnic groups. no brutality came up on them ? It was a minority who supported the Mentally Challenged Piribaharan who dug their own graves.
All in all, you have disgraced Jesus Christ by trying to get the good lord involved in your Terrorist Comments. Think to your self whether Jesus would have admired what you have mentioned and what your Mentally Challenged leader did to Thousands of civilians.
Merry Christmas !!
International inquiry will expose the criminals, why sri lanka not allowing any international inquiry? sri lanka is a demo-crazy country?
On Sri Lankan Killings, As Alston Asks Rajapaksas, Why Not UN’s Nambiar?
http://www.innercitypress.com/slanka1alston122109.html
Pappa u alway ay pirabakaran killed, even in 1956, could he born in 1954
Inginiyakala massacre 05.06.1956
In the 1940s, the Minister of Agriculture at that time created several Sinhala settlements in the Amparai district using state funds. The minister created the Galoya development scheme in the Amparai district and the Kantalai and Allai development scheme in the Trincomalee district and brought Sinhala settlers for these schemes from other districts. They were given several incentives. Police and military protection were given as well. Buddhist temples were built and big bells were fixed to these temples. An arbitrary declaration was made that wherever the ringing of these bells could be heard are lands belonging to Sinhala Buddhist people. In this land grab, land belonging to Tamils and Muslims were confiscated. Thikavabi is a Sinhala settlement created in this manner. In the parliamentary elections of 1956, S W R D Bandaranayake was elected as the new prime minister.
He submitted to the parliament the Sinhala Only law which was his campaign promise. The main Tamil political party of that time decided to protest this law peacefully. On 05.06.1956, it launched a Satyagragha protest in front of the old parliament building in the Gale Face beach in Colombo. Tamil politicians from all political parties joined in this protest. Fr Thaninayagam, a priest and a world famous Tamil language expert also joined the protest. This protest was attacked by Sinhala thugs on that same day it was launched. Following this attack shops in Colombo owned by Tamils were looted and then the shops were burnt down. Tamil people were attacked. Echoing this violence, pogrom
against Tamils broke out throughout the island. In the Amparai district the recently settled Sinhala thugs started violent attacks against the Tamils. 150 Tamils working in a sugar cane farm and factory in Inginiyagala under the Galoya scheme were killed. The bodies of the dead and injured were thrown on a fire. This is the first large scale massacre of Tamil in the island and many more followed over the following decades. The book “Emergency 58” by Tarzi Vittachi stated that 150 Tamils were killed in this pogrom.
Rohan,
I did read this article you have posted on the Inginiyagala issue etc.. yesterday. You had posted the link and I don’t see why you had to cut and paste the article instead of referring to the article ?? Most astonishing is the moderators who turn a blind eye to it… 😕
Anyways, if I go back to the history dear Rohan, I can bring out many instances where this tiny Island was attacked by south Indian parties and where zillions of innocent Singhlala citizens were massacred and our heritage smashed to the floor. Most of the kingdoms of SL are in ruins today because of these attacks of those decedents are you guys… Take for example the water fountains of Sigiriya, if that technology was preserved, today, we could have done the whole world and the nature a favour of letting them know how to pump water to higher grounds without electricity ha ?? There would have been lesser impact on earth where Obama or any wouldn’t have to tear their hair off to think how to save the planet or burn less fuel…
Now, I feel that you still should be thankful to our forefathers who actually did not chase all you guys back to where you came from, but pardoned you and let you live among us. This included the great king Dutugamunu, who after Elara (a chola king – not Tamil) ensured that all Chola’s who came down and settled here were looked after well. He clearly stated and it is mentioned in the oldest book of a nation – the Mahavansa as “This fight is not against the Chola’s (ethnic group), it is against the people who have unlawfully held our land” !
So, if you are going to throw an incident that happened a mere 60 years ago on to my face, remember, I can list from year 2000 B.C. about your unlawful activities.
Coming to the incident of Inginiyagala, this was fueled by the low insightful-ness of Ponnambalam. As much as we respect him as a good leader, sometimes, this mindless activities do create communal riots, as in case of Bati, where Tamils used to get harassed by Muslims vise verse.
In any country that is multi-communal, you can expect these kind of fights – take India (your motherland) for an example…. It even happens in USA – (Doesn’t it happen in Canada or France ?) – Hence, to make a big issue out of it means that you have a different agenda or you are mentally challenged as Piribaharan – I hope that it is your agenda as I don’t wish to see you as a retarded.
Asylum seeker dies on Merak boat http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/asylum…
earlier 12 were missing when their boat sank close to cocos island.
Permanent Representative of Sri Lanka to the UN confirming the statement of Sarath Fonseka again http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_23_00…
Palitha Kohona's previoue statements(he's australian citizen, now permanent rep. of sri lanka in UN)
"Victorious soldiers could have raped every single woman" "If you look at the history of war crimes there isn’t one instance where a winner of a war has been tried before a Tribunal. They have always been set up for losers."
"“There is this thinking that all our problems can be solved by applying a political solution. I fail to see the logic behind this”
Asylum seeker dies on Merak boat http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/asylum…
earlier 12 were missing when their boat sank close to cocos island.
Permanent Representative of Sri Lanka to the UN confirming the statement of Sarath Fonseka again http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_23_00…
Palitha Kohona's previoue statements(he's australian citizen, now permanent rep. of sri lanka in UN)
"Victorious soldiers could have raped every single woman" "If you look at the history of war crimes there isn’t one instance where a winner of a war has been tried before a Tribunal. They have always been set up for losers."
"“There is this thinking that all our problems can be solved by applying a political solution. I fail to see the logic behind this”
Asylum seeker dies on Merak boat
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/asylum-seeker-dies-on-merak-boat-20091224-ldpm.html
earlier 12 were missing when their boat sank close to cocos island.
Permanent Representative of Sri Lanka to the UN confirming the statement of Sarath Fonseka again
http://www.lankanewsweb.com/news/EN_2009_12_23_004.html
Palitha Kohona’s previoue statements(he’s australian citizen, now permanent rep. of sri lanka in UN)
“Victorious soldiers could have raped every single woman” “If you look at the history of war crimes there isn’t one instance where a winner of a war has been tried before a Tribunal. They have always been set up for losers.”
““There is this thinking that all our problems can be solved by applying a political solution. I fail to see the logic behind this”
Rohan
Permanent Representative of Sri Lanka to the UN confirming the statement of Sarath Fonseka again
Palitha Kohona’s previoue statements(he’s australian citizen, now permanent rep. of sri lanka in UN)
“Victorious soldiers could have raped every single woman” “If you look at the history of war crimes there isn’t one instance where a winner of a war has been tried before a Tribunal. They have always been set up for losers.”
““There is this thinking that all our problems can be solved by applying a political solution. I fail to see the logic behind this”
Palitha Kohona, said that?
A top Sri Lankan diplomat to UN???
No wonder, UK refused him visa 😉 🙂
Rohan
Permanent Representative of Sri Lanka to the UN confirming the statement of Sarath Fonseka again
Palitha Kohona’s previoue statements(he’s australian citizen, now permanent rep. of sri lanka in UN)
“Victorious soldiers could have raped every single woman” “If you look at the history of war crimes there isn’t one instance where a winner of a war has been tried before a Tribunal. They have always been set up for losers.”
““There is this thinking that all our problems can be solved by applying a political solution. I fail to see the logic behind this”
Palitha Kohona, said that?
A top Sri Lankan diplomat to UN???
No wonder, UK refused him visa 😉 🙂
The international humanitarian organization Doctors Without Borders has included Sri Lanka in its annual list of top 10 worst humanitarian crises. should be #1 http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22mOo0203XlY…
In sri lanka, leaders get 10% or more, but victims never get anything. but if they are Tamils, they will get shell pieces/bullets
It is like missing person, $537 million in tsunami aid missing http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/sri-la…
The international humanitarian organization Doctors Without Borders has included Sri Lanka in its annual list of top 10 worst humanitarian crises. should be #1 http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22mOo0203XlY…
In sri lanka, leaders get 10% or more, but victims never get anything. but if they are Tamils, they will get shell pieces/bullets
It is like missing person, $537 million in tsunami aid missing http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/sri-la…
The international humanitarian organization Doctors Without Borders has included Sri Lanka in its annual list of top 10 worst humanitarian crises. should be #1
http://www.lankasrinews.net/view.php?22mOo0203XlY42e3JB4A3a3V5Ac4d2oYd4cc3ImTcd404OJda0eMMKbe
In sri lanka, leaders get 10% or more, but victims never get anything. but if they are Tamils, they will get shell pieces/bullets
It is like missing person, $537 million in tsunami aid missing
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/sri-lankan-aid-projects-investigated/story-e6frg6so-1225813989191
Jim MD,
Rohan Says:
December 28th, 2009 at 12:04 am
In sri lanka, leaders get 10% or more, but victims never get anything. but if they are Tamils, they will get shell pieces/bullets
It is like missing person, $537 million in tsunami aid missing http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/sri-la…
Can you please tell me the relevance of this 'Cut and Paste" to this topic ????
Now if it is in reply to something that another posted, understood. But, this guy is quite famous for cutting and pasting stuff that are not at all relevant to anything that is to do with the subject or the discussed matter…
Why is Mango blocked ??????
Palitha Kohona’s previoue statements(he’s australian citizen, now permanent rep. of sri lanka in UN)
“Victorious soldiers could have raped every single woman” “If you look at the history of war crimes there isn’t one instance where a winner of a war has been tried before a Tribunal. They have always been set up for losers.”
““There is this thinking that all our problems can be solved by applying a political solution. I fail to see the logic behind this”
What is so Astonishing about this statement ???????????
He says that they "COULD" have raped ????? Not that they "SHOULD" or " Have been" raped ??
Ain't it true ?? No one would know anything – and it is indeed the looser who always cry out "Foul Play" not the winners ha ??
Anyways, Again it bottoms down to the intellectual levels I guess 🙁 🙁 🙁 !!
Jim MD,
Rohan Says:
December 28th, 2009 at 12:04 am
In sri lanka, leaders get 10% or more, but victims never get anything. but if they are Tamils, they will get shell pieces/bullets
It is like missing person, $537 million in tsunami aid missing http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/sri-la…
Can you please tell me the relevance of this 'Cut and Paste" to this topic ????
Now if it is in reply to something that another posted, understood. But, this guy is quite famous for cutting and pasting stuff that are not at all relevant to anything that is to do with the subject or the discussed matter…
Why is Mango blocked ??????
Hi jim pappa
how is your long weekend? u never do overtime? always weekend missing?
VIP's don't do overtime! did u participated any tsunami 5 yrs rememberance day? oh ya?
Hello Rohan !!
Indeed, I wish to spend time with family during weekends – after all, we can go places without any fear now !
Actually, executives in this country do not get overtime paid. We don't intend to either and yes, I am not a junior at my work place, but would defa not call my self an elite VIP… Just an ordinary citizen 🙂 !
I do remember the day – was caught in it myself. Luckily I escaped to help a few Hundreds later on. Unfortunately, I could not make it to the north or the east as the situation was not that great and LTTE was asking for Ransom to enter areas and basically took all the aids we sent there. But I indeed helped a lot down south – specially in Hikkaduwa and Galle.
This time around, I did spend the 2 mins from 9.25 – 9.27 in silent at home remembering those whom we lost – Indeed sad – U watched the Discovery program showing the latest findings behind it ?? Awesome !!
Palitha Kohona’s previoue statements(he’s australian citizen, now permanent rep. of sri lanka in UN)
“Victorious soldiers could have raped every single woman” “If you look at the history of war crimes there isn’t one instance where a winner of a war has been tried before a Tribunal. They have always been set up for losers.”
““There is this thinking that all our problems can be solved by applying a political solution. I fail to see the logic behind this”
What is so Astonishing about this statement ???????????
He says that they “COULD” have raped ????? Not that they “SHOULD” or ” Have been” raped ??
Ain’t it true ?? No one would know anything – and it is indeed the looser who always cry out “Foul Play” not the winners ha ??
Anyways, Again it bottoms down to the intellectual levels I guess 🙁 🙁 🙁 !!
Jim MD,
Rohan Says:
December 28th, 2009 at 12:04 am
In sri lanka, leaders get 10% or more, but victims never get anything. but if they are Tamils, they will get shell pieces/bullets
It is like missing person, $537 million in tsunami aid missing
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/sri-lankan-aid-projects-investigated/story-e6frg6so-1225813989191
Can you please tell me the relevance of this ‘Cut and Paste” to this topic ????
Now if it is in reply to something that another posted, understood. But, this guy is quite famous for cutting and pasting stuff that are not at all relevant to anything that is to do with the subject or the discussed matter…
Why is Mango blocked ??????
Hi jim pappa
how is your long weekend? u never do overtime? always weekend missing?
VIP’s don’t do overtime! did u participated any tsunami 5 yrs rememberance day? oh ya?
Hello Rohan !!
Indeed, I wish to spend time with family during weekends – after all, we can go places without any fear now !
Actually, executives in this country do not get overtime paid. We don’t intend to either and yes, I am not a junior at my work place, but would defa not call my self an elite VIP… Just an ordinary citizen 🙂 !
I do remember the day – was caught in it myself. Luckily I escaped to help a few Hundreds later on. Unfortunately, I could not make it to the north or the east as the situation was not that great and LTTE was asking for Ransom to enter areas and basically took all the aids we sent there. But I indeed helped a lot down south – specially in Hikkaduwa and Galle.
This time around, I did spend the 2 mins from 9.25 – 9.27 in silent at home remembering those whom we lost – Indeed sad – U watched the Discovery program showing the latest findings behind it ?? Awesome !!
Why IDP's are not allowed to go Home? colonize Tamil homeland? http://genocidesrilanka.blogspot.com/2009/10/raja…
Brief history, it give more infomation on colonize of Tamil Homeland? http://www.tchr.net/colonisation_detail.htm
Since 1827 – Tamil and Sinhala populations in the Eastern province
(Table is shown on a language basis)
Tamil Sinhala
Year Speaking Speaking
1827 99.24% 0.53%
1881 93.82% 4.66%
1891 93.89% 5.06%
1901 91.8% 5.05%
1911 93.4% 3.76%
1921 93.95% 4.53%
1946 87.8% 9.87%
1953 85.5% 13.11%
1963 79.25% 19.9%
1971 78.61% 20.7%
1981 74.4% 24.92%
Why IDP's are not allowed to go Home? colonize Tamil homeland? http://genocidesrilanka.blogspot.com/2009/10/raja…
Brief history, it give more infomation on colonize of Tamil Homeland? http://www.tchr.net/colonisation_detail.htm
Since 1827 – Tamil and Sinhala populations in the Eastern province
(Table is shown on a language basis)
Tamil Sinhala
Year Speaking Speaking
1827 99.24% 0.53%
1881 93.82% 4.66%
1891 93.89% 5.06%
1901 91.8% 5.05%
1911 93.4% 3.76%
1921 93.95% 4.53%
1946 87.8% 9.87%
1953 85.5% 13.11%
1963 79.25% 19.9%
1971 78.61% 20.7%
1981 74.4% 24.92%
Why IDP’s are not allowed to go Home? colonize Tamil homeland?
http://genocidesrilanka.blogspot.com/2009/10/rajapaksa-drunk-with-triumphalism-to.html
Brief history, it give more infomation on colonize of Tamil Homeland?
http://www.tchr.net/colonisation_detail.htm
Since 1827 – Tamil and Sinhala populations in the Eastern province
(Table is shown on a language basis)
Tamil Sinhala
Year Speaking Speaking
1827 99.24% 0.53%
1881 93.82% 4.66%
1891 93.89% 5.06%
1901 91.8% 5.05%
1911 93.4% 3.76%
1921 93.95% 4.53%
1946 87.8% 9.87%
1953 85.5% 13.11%
1963 79.25% 19.9%
1971 78.61% 20.7%
1981 74.4% 24.92%
In Hell !
Re. your previous post – I wonder who gave you these bogus figures.. ??
In the 1800's east did not have much Tamils and was used by Singhalees as a port to do trade with the eastern countries… Don't lie men !
In Hell !
Re. your previous post – I wonder who gave you these bogus figures.. ??
In the 1800’s east did not have much Tamils and was used by Singhalees as a port to do trade with the eastern countries… Don’t lie men !
Jim Pappa
The information is correct
The data is given by K. Sachithanandan
K. Sachithanandan- Adviser to the United Nations on Food and Agriculture
-Research officer – Colombo Fisheries Corporation.
He also added:
The Sri Lankan Government encouraged Sinhalese fishing families from the south to come to the eastern coast. In the areas where the Sinhala people live the sea is deep. There are about 200 such places. In the Tamil areas the sea deepens step by step. The sea deepens after a few kilometres.
The Tamils carry out their cultivation in all of the months except during the month of October-December. Initially, the Sinhala fishermen worked closely with the Tamil fishermen. However, the Sinhalese fishermen slowly drove the Tamils away and took control of Musali, Chilapaththurai, and Thalaimannar in the west and Nayaru and Kalmunai which is a long stretch of sea coast land in the east.
As time went on the Sinhalese fishermen drove the Tamils away and occupied the following places; Nayaru, Kokilai, Kuchaveli, the town of Trincomalee, Elakanthai, Verutal Panichan Kerni, Manokerni Punnaikuda Eravur, Batticaloa Chinna Mugathuvaaram Kumari, Thirukovil. These places were all taken by the Sinhalese with the help of the government, which wanted to drive away the Tamil people from the places they had always inhabited.
This was a step by step plan of encroachment to reduce the Tamil’s land.
SL government’s settlement plan deprived the Tamils their Ancestral Lands. Although the Tamils protested, the Colombo administratios ignored the Tamils and settled Sinhalese in these regions.
Jim Pappa
The information is correct
The data is given by K. Sachithanandan
K. Sachithanandan- Adviser to the United Nations on Food and Agriculture
-Research officer – Colombo Fisheries Corporation.
He also added:
The Sri Lankan Government encouraged Sinhalese fishing families from the south to come to the eastern coast. In the areas where the Sinhala people live the sea is deep. There are about 200 such places. In the Tamil areas the sea deepens step by step. The sea deepens after a few kilometres.
The Tamils carry out their cultivation in all of the months except during the month of October-December. Initially, the Sinhala fishermen worked closely with the Tamil fishermen. However, the Sinhalese fishermen slowly drove the Tamils away and took control of Musali, Chilapaththurai, and Thalaimannar in the west and Nayaru and Kalmunai which is a long stretch of sea coast land in the east.
As time went on the Sinhalese fishermen drove the Tamils away and occupied the following places; Nayaru, Kokilai, Kuchaveli, the town of Trincomalee, Elakanthai, Verutal Panichan Kerni, Manokerni Punnaikuda Eravur, Batticaloa Chinna Mugathuvaaram Kumari, Thirukovil. These places were all taken by the Sinhalese with the help of the government, which wanted to drive away the Tamil people from the places they had always inhabited.
This was a step by step plan of encroachment to reduce the Tamil’s land.
SL government’s settlement plan deprived the Tamils their Ancestral Lands. Although the Tamils protested, the Colombo administratios ignored the Tamils and settled Sinhalese in these regions.
New year gift by 58 Div SLA to IDPs in Sithandy, Murikandy, Killinochi
35 yrs old Tamil Women, Nagarajah Ariyamalar, IDPs was murdered http://www.sankathi.com/index.php?mact=News,cntnt…
New year gift by 58 Div SLA to IDPs in Sithandy, Murikandy, Killinochi
35 yrs old Tamil Women, Nagarajah Ariyamalar, IDPs was murdered http://www.sankathi.com/index.php?mact=News,cntnt…
New year gift by 58 Div SLA to IDPs in Sithandy, Murikandy, Killinochi
35 yrs old Tamil Women, Nagarajah Ariyamalar, IDPs was murdered
http://www.sankathi.com/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=2686&cntnt01origid=52&cntnt01returnid=51
Silva,
I am not going to argue on this fisherman issue because, the information source that I have which is a very credible source as per world heritage organizations + the only written history of a country from 2,500 years back does not match your report of max 5 years old.
However, I reiterate that I am calling everyone Sri Lankans and it is up to the Sri Lankans to re-build this country after Fat Man Menace !
Silva,
I am not going to argue on this fisherman issue because, the information source that I have which is a very credible source as per world heritage organizations + the only written history of a country from 2,500 years back does not match your report of max 5 years old.
However, I reiterate that I am calling everyone Sri Lankans and it is up to the Sri Lankans to re-build this country after Fat Man Menace !
Here is another article by a well respected Tamil Gentleman by the name Dr. Noel Nadesan.
Now he saw the light well before most of you who post here including the AI. He is in the majority of Tamils – this I know for sure and as a fact, so don’t argue with me on that… The uneducated, mentally challenged minority actually kill these kind of scholars. Click on my name for you to redirect to the article. Exerts are, (Cut and paste – liberty thanks to Rohan 🙂 )
“As of now Tamils, after the elimination of LTTE, have found a democratic space which was not available when the LTTE was ruling the roost. The Tamils also have come a long way from Vadukoddai Resolution of 1976. After the Vadukoddai Resolution the political wave demanding Tamil Eelam reached a peak. This Resolution changed the political mood and every Tamil was categorized either as an Eelamist or a traitor. Many opponents were seen as collaborators and they were killed. But all that has changed since May 19th of this year. After the end of Tigers in Nanthi Kadal every sensible Tamil realised Eelam is not the solution. Separatism was drowned in Nanthi Kadal. We have to work not only with majority community but also with other communities like the Muslim and up-country Tamils.
The Tamils have to be dynamic partners of a multi-racial Sri Lanka . Tamil politicians will never be able to serve the Tamil people well, if they do not join the mainstream politics. They can retain their political identities but they have no option but to work within the parameters of the mainstream. Race and religion should not be predominant factors in our politics any more. Only the welfare of the people has to be on the top of the political agenda.”
What a great Man and a gentleman !!! Bow down to him !! This is what education can do I guess !
I think the following sentence explains all about our good friends of AI blogs. Most important, it is said by a Tamil, whom our good friends try to represent.
A vocal and significant section of the Tamil Diaspora was pro- LTTE and invested all what they had in Prabhakaran and LTTE. They contributed millions to the LTTE and many so-called community leaders visited Prabhakaran and returned home with photographs of rubbing shoulders with the Sun God. They all had their fifteen minutes of glory. After seeing Prabhakaran’s swimming pool they never expected the LTTE to go down in Nandi Kadal. Even after the fall of Killinochchi, they refused to accept that Prabhakaran is finished. They never assessed the ground realities objectively. They merely followed the instructions of Kilinochchi blindly. This cult mentality made them act like zombies without initiative.
They are like young kids who believe that the parents would do the right thing but when the parents die in an unexpected accident the kids do not know what to do next. They find it hard to come to terms with reality and do silly things. This idea of a trans-national Eelam is also a childish act. I hope they will accept the reality soon because they have no one in Sri Lanka to carry on the failed politics of the past. The Tamils must accept their failed past and look to a fresh and new beginnings.
Here is another article by a well respected Tamil Gentleman by the name Dr. Noel Nadesan.
Now he saw the light well before most of you who post here including the AI. He is in the majority of Tamils – this I know for sure and as a fact, so don’t argue with me on that… The uneducated, mentally challenged minority actually kill these kind of scholars. Click on my name for you to redirect to the article. Exerts are, (Cut and paste – liberty thanks to Rohan 🙂 )
“As of now Tamils, after the elimination of LTTE, have found a democratic space which was not available when the LTTE was ruling the roost. The Tamils also have come a long way from Vadukoddai Resolution of 1976. After the Vadukoddai Resolution the political wave demanding Tamil Eelam reached a peak. This Resolution changed the political mood and every Tamil was categorized either as an Eelamist or a traitor. Many opponents were seen as collaborators and they were killed. But all that has changed since May 19th of this year. After the end of Tigers in Nanthi Kadal every sensible Tamil realised Eelam is not the solution. Separatism was drowned in Nanthi Kadal. We have to work not only with majority community but also with other communities like the Muslim and up-country Tamils.
The Tamils have to be dynamic partners of a multi-racial Sri Lanka . Tamil politicians will never be able to serve the Tamil people well, if they do not join the mainstream politics. They can retain their political identities but they have no option but to work within the parameters of the mainstream. Race and religion should not be predominant factors in our politics any more. Only the welfare of the people has to be on the top of the political agenda.”
What a great Man and a gentleman !!! Bow down to him !! This is what education can do I guess !
I think the following sentence explains all about our good friends of AI blogs. Most important, it is said by a Tamil, whom our good friends try to represent.
A vocal and significant section of the Tamil Diaspora was pro- LTTE and invested all what they had in Prabhakaran and LTTE. They contributed millions to the LTTE and many so-called community leaders visited Prabhakaran and returned home with photographs of rubbing shoulders with the Sun God. They all had their fifteen minutes of glory. After seeing Prabhakaran’s swimming pool they never expected the LTTE to go down in Nandi Kadal. Even after the fall of Killinochchi, they refused to accept that Prabhakaran is finished. They never assessed the ground realities objectively. They merely followed the instructions of Kilinochchi blindly. This cult mentality made them act like zombies without initiative.
They are like young kids who believe that the parents would do the right thing but when the parents die in an unexpected accident the kids do not know what to do next. They find it hard to come to terms with reality and do silly things. This idea of a trans-national Eelam is also a childish act. I hope they will accept the reality soon because they have no one in Sri Lanka to carry on the failed politics of the past. The Tamils must accept their failed past and look to a fresh and new beginnings.
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