A Lawless Law

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This is part of a series of articles on administrative detentions in Kashmir for Amnesty International’s Security and Human Rights Campaign.  

We released a report documenting the misuse of the Public Safety Act in the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir (J&K). As part of this report’s release, I will be writing a series of posts on this blog (with actions that you can take) over the coming weeks highlighting cases of people whose human rights have been violated because of the misuse of the Public Safety Act in J&K. For more information related to Kashmir and human rights in South Asia, please follow me on twitter at twitter.com/acharya_dude.

The report talks of how Kashmir is holding hundreds of people each year without charge or trial in order to “keep them out of circulation,” not by charging people with a crime, but just holding people because they can. In fact, the Indian Supreme Court has called this law a “lawless law.”

The authorities in J&K are using PSA detentions as a revolving door to keep people they can’t or won’t convict through the legal system locked up and out of the way. These arrests expose people to a higher risk of torture and other forms of ill-treatment.

The people who get detained include political leaders and activists, suspected members or supporters of armed opposition groups, lawyers, journalists and protesters, including children. Often, they are initially picked up for ‘unofficial’ interrogation, during which time they have no access to a lawyer or their families.

Over the past decade there has been a marked decrease in the overall numbers of members of armed groups operating in Jammu & Kashmir. But in the last five years, there has been a resurgence of street protests.

Despite this apparent shift in the nature of the unrest, J&K authorities continue to rely on the PSA rather than attempting to charge and try those suspected of committing criminal acts. This undermines the rule of law and reinforces deeply held perceptions that police and security forces are above the law.

Those held under the PSA can face up to two years in detention. But the Jammu and Kashmir authorities consistently thwart J&K High Court orders for the release of improperly detained individuals by issuing successive detention orders. Many detainees are thus trapped in a cycle of detention and remain, in the words of one high-ranking J&K official, “out of circulation.”

Oh and hey talk about impunity, the PSA provides immunity from prosecution for officials operating under it. Furthermore, the use of administrative detention doesn’t conform to international human rights obligations and agreements that India has signed on to.

We are calling on the Government of Jammu & Kashmir to immediately:

  • repeal the PSA and with it the system of administrative detention, releasing all detainees or charging those suspected of committing criminal acts with recognized offences and providing fair trials in a court of law.
  • end illegal detentions and introduce safeguards ensuring those detained are charged promptly, have access to relatives, legal council and medical examinations and are held in recognized detention facilities pending trial.

We are further calling on the Government of Jammu & Kashmir and the Government of India (the Central government) to carry out an investigation into allegations of abuses against detainees and their families, including allegations of torture and other ill-treatment, denial of visits and medical care, making its findings public and holding those responsible to account.

It’s time for this law to go and for the human rights violations to end in Kashmir.

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47 thoughts on “A Lawless Law

  1. Reading yur article, I couldn't help but feel that the Lawlessness of Law seems to be within the Law depending on how the Law is interpritted.

    See, the USA along with their allies bombed Libya under 1973 UN law of Saving civilians. But, if it is the Civilians who are devided in to 2 parties are fighting against each other, obviously, one party with the government, the other opposing the government, Won't it also be an Internal affair of a country???

    Isn't it the same in Kashmir India? Ain't it an internal affair??

    However, the point is, if AI is writing all these heaps of crap against countries like India, Sri Lanka, Afganisthan etc, Why not write about and make some cry about the atrocities the French, the English and the Americans carryout in Middle East ?? Can anyone at AI admire the killings in Libya ?(The most recent to the tally of Zillion War crimes carried out by USA??)

  2. Its such a shame that Amnesty has proven to be a tool for US & other countries to meddle in the internal affairs of a sovereign state.There are many other places where people are denied basic human rights and jailed for long time like the Guantanamo bay and others but Amnesty dosent seem to think its wrong.
    The situation in kashmir is bad but its nothing as compared to uyghur autonomous region of China but Amnesty treads very carefully at that time.I think Amnesty as an organisation has fialed miserably and is being used just by US and allies to pressure eastern countries.
    UN recognises that Kashmir is an internal dispute between 2 countries,why does Amnesty interfere then?Has amnesty travelled to pakistans side of kashmir?Just be unbiased and Amnesty will have some credibility,otherwise no one will care even if the matter is serious..

  3. …fundamentally speaking, no amount of offense should warrant denial of the human suspect[s] the rights to health care,open investigation or trial, inhumane torture…….we shouldnt be oblivious to appreciate the fact that should we fail in safe guarding the dignity of the human suspects of sorts whether guilty or not; then we would as well as human-persons be failing to protect the sanctity as expected of humanity.

  4. Reading yur article, I couldn’t help but feel that the Lawlessness of Law seems to be within the Law depending on how the Law is interpritted.

    See, the USA along with their allies bombed Libya under 1973 UN law of Saving civilians. But, if it is the Civilians who are devided in to 2 parties are fighting against each other, obviously, one party with the government, the other opposing the government, Won’t it also be an Internal affair of a country???

    Isn’t it the same in Kashmir India? Ain’t it an internal affair??

    However, the point is, if AI is writing all these heaps of crap against countries like India, Sri Lanka, Afganisthan etc, Why not write about and make some cry about the atrocities the French, the English and the Americans carryout in Middle East ?? Can anyone at AI admire the killings in Libya ?(The most recent to the tally of Zillion War crimes carried out by USA??)

  5. To those that talk about "interfering in internal affairs", I say guilty as charged! But, I don't understand at all why it's relevant. I realize that it comes from talking points, but I still don't understand why that would apply (even if there was some rule against it) to a human rights organization.

  6. It is high time that AI and other international human rights organisations start paying attention to Indian-occupied Kashmir.

    The Kashmiri people have suffered numerous atrocities under the Indian forces for the last 22 years. The sufferings have included the killings of nearly a 100,000 Kashmiris, more than 7000 people disappeared in police custody, thousands of young people tortured in prisons, thousands of women raped ….a society that is scared for generations… and waiting for justice….for their promised right to self-determination.

    Kashmir is an international dispute and not an internal matter for India only. So sensible Indians need to start looking beyond this myth and propaganda. Those who have doubts should get some history lessons.

  7. Its such a shame that Amnesty has proven to be a tool for US & other countries to meddle in the internal affairs of a sovereign state.There are many other places where people are denied basic human rights and jailed for long time like the Guantanamo bay and others but Amnesty dosent seem to think its wrong.
    The situation in kashmir is bad but its nothing as compared to uyghur autonomous region of China but Amnesty treads very carefully at that time.I think Amnesty as an organisation has fialed miserably and is being used just by US and allies to pressure eastern countries.
    UN recognises that Kashmir is an internal dispute between 2 countries,why does Amnesty interfere then?Has amnesty travelled to pakistans side of kashmir?Just be unbiased and Amnesty will have some credibility,otherwise no one will care even if the matter is serious..

  8. …fundamentally speaking, no amount of offense should warrant denial of the human suspect[s] the rights to health care,open investigation or trial, inhumane torture…….we shouldnt be oblivious to appreciate the fact that should we fail in safe guarding the dignity of the human suspects of sorts whether guilty or not; then we would as well as human-persons be failing to protect the sanctity as expected of humanity.

  9. To those that talk about “interfering in internal affairs”, I say guilty as charged! But, I don’t understand at all why it’s relevant. I realize that it comes from talking points, but I still don’t understand why that would apply (even if there was some rule against it) to a human rights organization.

  10. Thanks for an interesting article. I am yet to read the report but I am glad that AI is working on human rights abuse in Kashmir. It's a topic that has a very low profile in the media and one that I would like to know more about.

    In response to the posts by rip van winkle and rahul patil, I would just like to reassure you that Amnesty International is not a political organisation, it is a human rights organisation. It carries out world wide campaigns against human right abuses, usually by spreading awareness and reminding goverments (including western goverments) that the world is watching. It does this through letters and petitions not bombs. I personally am from the UK and have taken part in many campaigns calling on my own goverment and the US goverment to stop human rights abuses both at home and abroad. AI has done a lot of work trying to protect human rights in the middle east for example in palestine and in the atrocious 'war on terror'. Contrary to what rahul patil says, AI is a major critic of Guantanamo bay and has been campaigning for its closure for years.

    AI tried to stop detention without trail in guantanamo bay. Now it is trying to stop detention without trial in Kashmir. What's the difference? How can pointing out such human rights abuses be bad in any capacity?

  11. We must fight against the impunity of crimes with more forcefully and not wait, like the story reveals, that one or more human crimes could become genocide.
    The World must relentlessly fight against humanity crimes and crimes war. Where is the International Justice Court which should prevent once and for all, these kind of abominable crimes? Why Amnesty International has not established yet national jurisdictions all over the world in order to control the crimes perpetrated unjustly in the case of Kashmir, Palestine and many other African countries?
    The people’s independence are part and are walking along to this endless struggle for human rights. Why are not involved in international justice the most influential world countries like the U.S. or China? What’s this world power for? When they are betraying the people's fundamental rights.
    That people needed weapons to defend and fight for self-determination, Shows us the slowness with which evolve values ​​and people rights. We all should feel ashamed by the infinite amount of injustice and violence that stalks the world, our agonizing world.

  12. It is high time that AI and other international human rights organisations start paying attention to Indian-occupied Kashmir.

    The Kashmiri people have suffered numerous atrocities under the Indian forces for the last 22 years. The sufferings have included the killings of nearly a 100,000 Kashmiris, more than 7000 people disappeared in police custody, thousands of young people tortured in prisons, thousands of women raped ….a society that is scared for generations… and waiting for justice….for their promised right to self-determination.

    Kashmir is an international dispute and not an internal matter for India only. So sensible Indians need to start looking beyond this myth and propaganda. Those who have doubts should get some history lessons.

  13. Thanks for an interesting article. I am yet to read the report but I am glad that AI is working on human rights abuse in Kashmir. It’s a topic that has a very low profile in the media and one that I would like to know more about.

    In response to the posts by rip van winkle and rahul patil, I would just like to reassure you that Amnesty International is not a political organisation, it is a human rights organisation. It carries out world wide campaigns against human right abuses, usually by spreading awareness and reminding goverments (including western goverments) that the world is watching. It does this through letters and petitions not bombs. I personally am from the UK and have taken part in many campaigns calling on my own goverment and the US goverment to stop human rights abuses both at home and abroad. AI has done a lot of work trying to protect human rights in the middle east for example in palestine and in the atrocious ‘war on terror’. Contrary to what rahul patil says, AI is a major critic of Guantanamo bay and has been campaigning for its closure for years.

    AI tried to stop detention without trail in guantanamo bay. Now it is trying to stop detention without trial in Kashmir. What’s the difference? How can pointing out such human rights abuses be bad in any capacity?

  14. We must fight against the impunity of crimes with more forcefully and not wait, like the story reveals, that one or more human crimes could become genocide.
    The World must relentlessly fight against humanity crimes and crimes war. Where is the International Justice Court which should prevent once and for all, these kind of abominable crimes? Why Amnesty International has not established yet national jurisdictions all over the world in order to control the crimes perpetrated unjustly in the case of Kashmir, Palestine and many other African countries?
    The people’s independence are part and are walking along to this endless struggle for human rights. Why are not involved in international justice the most influential world countries like the U.S. or China? What’s this world power for? When they are betraying the people’s fundamental rights.
    That people needed weapons to defend and fight for self-determination, Shows us the slowness with which evolve values ​​and people rights. We all should feel ashamed by the infinite amount of injustice and violence that stalks the world, our agonizing world.

  15. Govind….!

    I trust when you say "Guilty as charged", you meant the Government of USA and it's allies. We see double standards from USA when it comes to certain issues. They attacked Iraq for nothing and still that country is in dissarray and now they want to pull the forces out. We understand Afghan situ and fully support USA getting rid of the Terrorists there, but, now they want to pull out beofre finishing off the job.

    However, in all instanses, many civilians were killed and we did not see many articles of AI against the GOUSA. However, we see many articles when it comes to developing countries like India, Libya, Sri Lanka when they try to solve their internal affairs. USA is basically poking in to other countries afairs and killing people of other countries where as the countries I mentioned are trying to solve their own issues. We might not agree with Dictatorship of Quadaffi, but, if we study politics right, there are several ways of ruling a country where Democracy is only one aspect. Socialism, Dictatorship, military government, Kingdom – all these have differnet approaches and it is up to us to acccept them. Just because we are from democratic nations, that doesn't mean that all the others should be too – that's us being more autocratic ya?

    Anyways, I wish to point out the double standards of AI when it comes to USA, the west against other developing nations. Not fair !!

  16. What is happening in Jammu and Kashmir is a struggle for freedom, Kashmir was an independent nation India and Pakistan occupied their country, some agents are ruling the state, but the Kashmiri people need freedom and they want to live like a humanbeings, Kashmir is not a part of India or Pakistan it is a free country, like Tibet occupied by the China…
    Freedom…means absolute freedom…Kashmir should be given the status as promised in the United Nations…to become a free Nation……

  17. Govind….!

    I trust when you say “Guilty as charged”, you meant the Government of USA and it’s allies. We see double standards from USA when it comes to certain issues. They attacked Iraq for nothing and still that country is in dissarray and now they want to pull the forces out. We understand Afghan situ and fully support USA getting rid of the Terrorists there, but, now they want to pull out beofre finishing off the job.

    However, in all instanses, many civilians were killed and we did not see many articles of AI against the GOUSA. However, we see many articles when it comes to developing countries like India, Libya, Sri Lanka when they try to solve their internal affairs. USA is basically poking in to other countries afairs and killing people of other countries where as the countries I mentioned are trying to solve their own issues. We might not agree with Dictatorship of Quadaffi, but, if we study politics right, there are several ways of ruling a country where Democracy is only one aspect. Socialism, Dictatorship, military government, Kingdom – all these have differnet approaches and it is up to us to acccept them. Just because we are from democratic nations, that doesn’t mean that all the others should be too – that’s us being more autocratic ya?

    Anyways, I wish to point out the double standards of AI when it comes to USA, the west against other developing nations. Not fair !!

  18. What is happening in Jammu and Kashmir is a struggle for freedom, Kashmir was an independent nation India and Pakistan occupied their country, some agents are ruling the state, but the Kashmiri people need freedom and they want to live like a humanbeings, Kashmir is not a part of India or Pakistan it is a free country, like Tibet occupied by the China…
    Freedom…means absolute freedom…Kashmir should be given the status as promised in the United Nations…to become a free Nation……

  19. I am completely convinced that some members of Amnesty, are more concerned about the echo and the good publicity that this organization should be to have, that the firm will of commitment to human suffering. Even among the victims of Amnesty there are classes and categories according to political interests.
    Investigate the judicial and police system Spanish, is for Amnesty far too hard and complicated, so often citizens are indiscriminately used through their time, suffering, anger and outrage of the citizens to get his own prominence and benefit.
    It is very comfortable and popular that some notable judges have been engaged in digging up Franco's victims, they buried 30 years ago. But not for to fight the serious problems that society is currently suffering On our society.
    Only some privileged people have secured their royal box from which to interpret or misinterpret the reality as it suits them best.
    Next step, I Would like to add a report on the continuing violations of human rights in Spain, where Amnesty has not moved or never move a finger because it does not suit you.

    DEPRIVATION OF LIBERTY AND HUMAN RIGHTS IN SPAIN
    In March of 2007, a large public conference with the presence of all the
    Participants, the OPSHR will be ready to present to the European and Spanish
    authorities, in addition to UN agencies) a very extensive Report on the level of respect for human rights in Spanish institutions of segregation, with special reference to torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
    Finally, it could be remarked that the past this constitutes an historical landmark in the long fight for the prevention of torture and supposes the creation of a new mechanism –national and independent-

    WHICH KIND OF DEPRIVATION OF FREEDOM IN SPAIN WE ARE DEALING WITH?
    Will keep in mind in the present report those institutions in which people are deprived of freedom as a result of the application of a measure, act or punishment (whether dictated by an Administrative Authority or a court of the Penal System) and which consist on the physical segregation of an individual, for a certain period of time.
    Therefore, it won’t be the object of this investigation those other situations in which the bad or ill-treatments are applied in different contexts from the one specified by the penal system
    (Such as gender violence in the domestic field or the violence suffered in other institutions in application of punition as it could happen in the military barracks or hospitals).
    The most clear and extensive definition which better delimits the object of investigation comes given from the article 1 of the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment (Approved in the Plenary of the United Nations December
    10th, 1984 and ratified by Spain, where it entered in force on October of 1987).
    “(…), the term ‘torture’ means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether Physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, When such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or Acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It doe not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful Sanctions”.
    Therefore, the deprivation of freedom for a certain period of time referred by the present Report alludes to the following institutions: prisons, juvenile detention centers for the Detention of foreign nationals, police stations (distinguish in clear and constantly the different Kind of State Security Forces of Spain, as the National Police Force, Civil Guard, Local Police, And the police of Autonomous regions, such Mossos d’Esquadra (airport stations), psychiatric hospitals and other premises for compulsory health treatment (not freely decided).
    Finally, to understand what kind of deprivation of freedom we are dealing with, we fully agree with the following statement by the present vice-president of the CPT of the Council of Europe, (2006):
    “The area of the deprivation of the liberty is more extensive of whatever thinks. That mainly includes above all the prison that is the place to which it immediately takes the same idea to us of liberty deprivation; a place still and wherever barely is transparent,
    to grief that many national orderings anticipate the possibility of access to him of people who have an institutional roll. But the area of the liberty deprivation is not restricted single in the jail. We spoke here of deprivation of the liberty whenever a subject is retained in a place on the part of a public authority – and therefore he is not free to leave
    it voluntarily – independently of the cause that such place formally is defined and
    Provided as cell or another place with possible lodging (the van that accompanies a person to police station is already then a place of deprivation of the liberty). The guarantees of protection of the fundamental rights of a liberty deprived person go off from the first moment of such deprivation. In particular, the notification to third of the
    deprivation of liberty happened, the access to the lawyer and a possible medical checkup, must be guaranteed from the first moment and no, as in more than an occasion some countries have tried to affirm, single from the moment of the formalization of the deprivation of the freedom.”
    III)
    the police officers and security forces have been accused of tortures and/or ill-treatments along the year 2007, as also was the case in the Report for the year 2009. When we refer to the officials accused, as well as to the preliminary judicial investigations of the accusations, we are setting out the problem of the independence of their investigation or the degree of impunity
    and/or of occultation of the torture practices that could allegedly exist in Spain. In the following table we show the cases of officials who have been judicially investigated during the year 2005,
    Together with the different procedural situations in the Justice Courts, independently of the time
    When the facts occurred:

    PROCEDURAL SITUATION OF THE DENOUNCED OFFICIALS,
    The Council of Europe have stressed the fact that accusations of torture have not always been appropriately investigated, what cast many doubts about the many absolutions and filed cases.

  20. I am completely convinced that some members of Amnesty, are more concerned about the echo and the good publicity that this organization should be to have, that the firm will of commitment to human suffering. Even among the victims of Amnesty there are classes and categories according to political interests.
    Investigate the judicial and police system Spanish, is for Amnesty far too hard and complicated, so often citizens are indiscriminately used through their time, suffering, anger and outrage of the citizens to get his own prominence and benefit.
    It is very comfortable and popular that some notable judges have been engaged in digging up Franco’s victims, they buried 30 years ago. But not for to fight the serious problems that society is currently suffering On our society.
    Only some privileged people have secured their royal box from which to interpret or misinterpret the reality as it suits them best.
    Next step, I Would like to add a report on the continuing violations of human rights in Spain, where Amnesty has not moved or never move a finger because it does not suit you.

    DEPRIVATION OF LIBERTY AND HUMAN RIGHTS IN SPAIN
    In March of 2007, a large public conference with the presence of all the
    Participants, the OPSHR will be ready to present to the European and Spanish
    authorities, in addition to UN agencies) a very extensive Report on the level of respect for human rights in Spanish institutions of segregation, with special reference to torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
    Finally, it could be remarked that the past this constitutes an historical landmark in the long fight for the prevention of torture and supposes the creation of a new mechanism –national and independent-

    WHICH KIND OF DEPRIVATION OF FREEDOM IN SPAIN WE ARE DEALING WITH?
    Will keep in mind in the present report those institutions in which people are deprived of freedom as a result of the application of a measure, act or punishment (whether dictated by an Administrative Authority or a court of the Penal System) and which consist on the physical segregation of an individual, for a certain period of time.
    Therefore, it won’t be the object of this investigation those other situations in which the bad or ill-treatments are applied in different contexts from the one specified by the penal system
    (Such as gender violence in the domestic field or the violence suffered in other institutions in application of punition as it could happen in the military barracks or hospitals).
    The most clear and extensive definition which better delimits the object of investigation comes given from the article 1 of the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment (Approved in the Plenary of the United Nations December
    10th, 1984 and ratified by Spain, where it entered in force on October of 1987).
    “(…), the term ‘torture’ means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether Physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, When such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or Acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It doe not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful Sanctions”.
    Therefore, the deprivation of freedom for a certain period of time referred by the present Report alludes to the following institutions: prisons, juvenile detention centers for the Detention of foreign nationals, police stations (distinguish in clear and constantly the different Kind of State Security Forces of Spain, as the National Police Force, Civil Guard, Local Police, And the police of Autonomous regions, such Mossos d’Esquadra (airport stations), psychiatric hospitals and other premises for compulsory health treatment (not freely decided).
    Finally, to understand what kind of deprivation of freedom we are dealing with, we fully agree with the following statement by the present vice-president of the CPT of the Council of Europe, (2006):
    “The area of the deprivation of the liberty is more extensive of whatever thinks. That mainly includes above all the prison that is the place to which it immediately takes the same idea to us of liberty deprivation; a place still and wherever barely is transparent,
    to grief that many national orderings anticipate the possibility of access to him of people who have an institutional roll. But the area of the liberty deprivation is not restricted single in the jail. We spoke here of deprivation of the liberty whenever a subject is retained in a place on the part of a public authority – and therefore he is not free to leave
    it voluntarily – independently of the cause that such place formally is defined and
    Provided as cell or another place with possible lodging (the van that accompanies a person to police station is already then a place of deprivation of the liberty). The guarantees of protection of the fundamental rights of a liberty deprived person go off from the first moment of such deprivation. In particular, the notification to third of the
    deprivation of liberty happened, the access to the lawyer and a possible medical checkup, must be guaranteed from the first moment and no, as in more than an occasion some countries have tried to affirm, single from the moment of the formalization of the deprivation of the freedom.”
    III)
    the police officers and security forces have been accused of tortures and/or ill-treatments along the year 2007, as also was the case in the Report for the year 2009. When we refer to the officials accused, as well as to the preliminary judicial investigations of the accusations, we are setting out the problem of the independence of their investigation or the degree of impunity
    and/or of occultation of the torture practices that could allegedly exist in Spain. In the following table we show the cases of officials who have been judicially investigated during the year 2005,
    Together with the different procedural situations in the Justice Courts, independently of the time
    When the facts occurred:

    PROCEDURAL SITUATION OF THE DENOUNCED OFFICIALS,
    The Council of Europe have stressed the fact that accusations of torture have not always been appropriately investigated, what cast many doubts about the many absolutions and filed cases.

  21. Bravo Govind. You have chosen to highlight an issue which effects the society in Kashmir at the grass root level. The freedom struggle of Kashmir is a conflict that India suppresses and the world chooses to ignore. It is commendable for you to speak out for a people who need a voice !

  22. Bravo Govind. You have chosen to highlight an issue which effects the society in Kashmir at the grass root level. The freedom struggle of Kashmir is a conflict that India suppresses and the world chooses to ignore. It is commendable for you to speak out for a people who need a voice !

  23. Dear Simon Naim,

    i hear you !

    On tyrrany & torture in presentday Spain.

    You consistently support other peoples in their battles for freedom.

    i repay your internationalism with mine.

    Tomorrow in your battle think of me .

    As YOUR companero.

    ***** *****

    For it's the duty of ALL conscious beings to aid & support the struggles of ALL oppressed peoples….in Spain, or Indian Oppressed Kashmir … everywhere !

    It's stupid to say, as someone does here, that we HAVE to "accept" oppressive systems in other lands.

    We don't.

    & we won't.

    But there's a difference between peoples….. & STATES.

    We won't support foreign STATES's armed interventions against such systems.

    But as oppressed PEOPLES we'll aid & cooperate with the struggles of all oppressed EVERYWHERE.

    For WHO says oppression in any country is that country's "internal affair" ??

    "Our Internal affair" is the local OPPRESSOR's excuse.

    The apparatchik or apologist's justification for the maintenance of the ISOLATION of an oppressed group.

    For isolation is the very LIFEBLOOD of disease …. the disease of oppression.

    We can't accept the tyrrant's idea of "This is our internal affair".

    The tyrrant's "internal affair" is, instead, a matter of BURNING concern & activation for ALL conscious beings…… all over the world.

    Oppression ANYwhere is EVERYBODY'S INTERNAL AFFAIR … MINE OWN, & YOURS, & all PEOPLES' !

    This Struggle is Together.

  24. Dear Simon Naim,

    i hear you !

    On tyrrany & torture in presentday Spain.

    You consistently support other peoples in their battles for freedom.

    i repay your internationalism with mine.

    Tomorrow in your battle think of me .

    As YOUR companero.

    ***** *****

    For it’s the duty of ALL conscious beings to aid & support the struggles of ALL oppressed peoples….in Spain, or Indian Oppressed Kashmir … everywhere !

    It’s stupid to say, as someone does here, that we HAVE to “accept” oppressive systems in other lands.

    We don’t.

    & we won’t.

    But there’s a difference between peoples….. & STATES.

    We won’t support foreign STATES’s armed interventions against such systems.

    But as oppressed PEOPLES we’ll aid & cooperate with the struggles of all oppressed EVERYWHERE.

    For WHO says oppression in any country is that country’s “internal affair” ??

    “Our Internal affair” is the local OPPRESSOR’s excuse.

    The apparatchik or apologist’s justification for the maintenance of the ISOLATION of an oppressed group.

    For isolation is the very LIFEBLOOD of disease …. the disease of oppression.

    We can’t accept the tyrrant’s idea of “This is our internal affair”.

    The tyrrant’s “internal affair” is, instead, a matter of BURNING concern & activation for ALL conscious beings…… all over the world.

    Oppression ANYwhere is EVERYBODY’S INTERNAL AFFAIR … MINE OWN, & YOURS, & all PEOPLES’ !

    This Struggle is Together.

  25. Thanks A. Savage,
    Today I'm really happy to hear these words of comfort. The day after I wrote the article about police corruption in Spain.I received at my home a fine for an amount of 200 €, totally unjustified and threatening to take me to court if I won't pay.
    For too long I've been harassed by the police, I've not only been censored, but also have suffered all manner of insults and slander without having the opportunity to defend myself. Police in my area uses methods of social marginalization and persecution for their prey in order to marginalize social and professional life or manipulating information about people’s lives. They do not hesitate to disclose confidential information when it comes to damage the dignity and integrity of a person.
    I'm not quite sure why this is happening to me. It may be for saying some truths in local media, I don’t know, all I know, is that the police are often subjected to the will of political corruption instead of acting independently and justice is also part of this corruption
    Sooner or later if I want to live in freedom and dignity I’ll have to leave Spain, this type of moral persecution is invisible to others eyes. While I'm suffering in silence and I think that I can not take it anymore,
    I am fully convinced that no one will compensate for the time, money and dignity that I have been stolen. The worst thing for them is that they have not yet managed to destroy me or kill me.

  26. Thanks A. Savage,
    Today I’m really happy to hear these words of comfort. The day after I wrote the article about police corruption in Spain.I received at my home a fine for an amount of 200 €, totally unjustified and threatening to take me to court if I won’t pay.
    For too long I’ve been harassed by the police, I’ve not only been censored, but also have suffered all manner of insults and slander without having the opportunity to defend myself. Police in my area uses methods of social marginalization and persecution for their prey in order to marginalize social and professional life or manipulating information about people’s lives. They do not hesitate to disclose confidential information when it comes to damage the dignity and integrity of a person.
    I’m not quite sure why this is happening to me. It may be for saying some truths in local media, I don’t know, all I know, is that the police are often subjected to the will of political corruption instead of acting independently and justice is also part of this corruption
    Sooner or later if I want to live in freedom and dignity I’ll have to leave Spain, this type of moral persecution is invisible to others eyes. While I’m suffering in silence and I think that I can not take it anymore,
    I am fully convinced that no one will compensate for the time, money and dignity that I have been stolen. The worst thing for them is that they have not yet managed to destroy me or kill me.

  27. Dear Simon Naim….

    Any wonder ?

    You live by the High Laws. The Laws of truth & courage & loyalty to the oppressed.

    Then they who live by the low laws… the police & the politicos who live the Low Laws of robbery & rape & duplicity … hate & fear the People & you …

    Contact a local or regional human rights group.Go to them & tell them the truth.
    Counsel with them.

    Get in touch with other groups fighting to be free.

    Get into this your greater Family, integrate with this wider struggle.

    You are here on the Sacred Circle.

    & the Circle is Turning.

    It's taking you irresistibly toward the Change.

    Await the Changing, dear Brother.

    In Kashmir, the People are Awaiting the Changing .

    Despite the "power" of india.

    80, 000 have died in india's war against Kashmir.

    8,000 Kashmiris have been disappeared" by the indian police & armed forces.

    But the People there haven't given away their Sovereignty.

    As you haven't given away your own individual / personal Sovereignty..

    The state has no sovereignty when it violates that of the Kashmiris…. or your own.

    This Soverignty is your real, true Power.

    Hold it with all might as the People here hold it.

    i am with you in this Struggle.

  28. Dear Simon Naim….

    Any wonder ?

    You live by the High Laws. The Laws of truth & courage & loyalty to the oppressed.

    Then they who live by the low laws… the police & the politicos who live the Low Laws of robbery & rape & duplicity … hate & fear the People & you …

    Contact a local or regional human rights group.Go to them & tell them the truth.
    Counsel with them.

    Get in touch with other groups fighting to be free.

    Get into this your greater Family, integrate with this wider struggle.

    You are here on the Sacred Circle.

    & the Circle is Turning.

    It’s taking you irresistibly toward the Change.

    Await the Changing, dear Brother.

    In Kashmir, the People are Awaiting the Changing .

    Despite the “power” of india.

    80, 000 have died in india’s war against Kashmir.

    8,000 Kashmiris have been disappeared” by the indian police & armed forces.

    But the People there haven’t given away their Sovereignty.

    As you haven’t given away your own individual / personal Sovereignty..

    The state has no sovereignty when it violates that of the Kashmiris…. or your own.

    This Soverignty is your real, true Power.

    Hold it with all might as the People here hold it.

    i am with you in this Struggle.

  29. Dear a. Savage,
    I know perfectly which ones are the harmful attitudes of politicians in my environment, their thefts and their criminal acts, but I do not understand that justice does not act on the evidence of injury harassment and abuse of authority exercised over citizens who have a voice.
    Of course they are afraid, afraid of losing his status, for this reason, intelligent people who sees the reality and distrust them, is their enemy. There is a said: “There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action, this greatest ignorance to reject something they know nothing about, preventing people grow and realize as a person.
    Politicians and the police have the need of obedient and submissive people willing to crawl for work and lick the ass of others when necessary to keep the bread, while on the other side, they are engaged in harassing and persecuting those who are not willing to be dominated and manipulated by any ideological interest. If you're not with them, they make your life impossible, as they have been doing to me. It is the law” if you’re not with me are against me”.
    So is our repugnant Spanish democracy, now, in crisis.
    It’s time to defend and denounce the crimes so many years that me and others have been silent. And I'm willing to use every means at my disposal to do so. I believe that there is still some justice in the world. Or just people who can see beyond the deception and manipulation how the vulgar and arrogant power forced people to submit to an corrupt authority;
    May I not have any reward for reporting everything that I complain, but the best satisfaction is seeing many pigs, filled with deep shit, jump through hoops of justice, even though this justice is international justice.
    At the end, history has taught us that the struggle of the pigs is the same in all over the world. The diabolical obsession for maintain power and status at any price.

  30. Dear a. Savage,
    I know perfectly which ones are the harmful attitudes of politicians in my environment, their thefts and their criminal acts, but I do not understand that justice does not act on the evidence of injury harassment and abuse of authority exercised over citizens who have a voice.
    Of course they are afraid, afraid of losing his status, for this reason, intelligent people who sees the reality and distrust them, is their enemy. There is a said: “There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action, this greatest ignorance to reject something they know nothing about, preventing people grow and realize as a person.
    Politicians and the police have the need of obedient and submissive people willing to crawl for work and lick the ass of others when necessary to keep the bread, while on the other side, they are engaged in harassing and persecuting those who are not willing to be dominated and manipulated by any ideological interest. If you’re not with them, they make your life impossible, as they have been doing to me. It is the law” if you’re not with me are against me”.
    So is our repugnant Spanish democracy, now, in crisis.
    It’s time to defend and denounce the crimes so many years that me and others have been silent. And I’m willing to use every means at my disposal to do so. I believe that there is still some justice in the world. Or just people who can see beyond the deception and manipulation how the vulgar and arrogant power forced people to submit to an corrupt authority;
    May I not have any reward for reporting everything that I complain, but the best satisfaction is seeing many pigs, filled with deep shit, jump through hoops of justice, even though this justice is international justice.
    At the end, history has taught us that the struggle of the pigs is the same in all over the world. The diabolical obsession for maintain power and status at any price.

  31. Press ahead, dear Simon Naim !

    The tide of history is with you now.

    From Ireland to Portugal to Greece, a people's Europe is entering a new age of Revolution against the corrupt & moribund State forces of privatization & neoliberalism.

    The islands of individual oppressions are submerging under this new Ocean.

    The Arab Revolution is further fuelling the upsurge.

    To the barricades, from Kashmir to Spain, companeros !

  32. Press ahead, dear Simon Naim !

    The tide of history is with you now.

    From Ireland to Portugal to Greece, a people’s Europe is entering a new age of Revolution against the corrupt & moribund State forces of privatization & neoliberalism.

    The islands of individual oppressions are submerging under this new Ocean.

    The Arab Revolution is further fuelling the upsurge.

    To the barricades, from Kashmir to Spain, companeros !

  33. There's a dear truth, Simon Naim,

    in talking Spain by way of Kashmir.

    Kashmir's present is Spain's vanished corpse, exhumed.

    Spain's unmarked graves lie alongside Kasmir's fresh tombs.

    For Franco is alive & well in Kashmir today.

    & the silence you spoke of, dear Simon !

    Every generation is taught this silence.

    That fear is Franco's inheritance.

    That silence, the army teaches.

    In Spain …. in Kashmir.

    The silence enforced by Zaragoza.

    The silence enforced on Garzon.

    The silence the Inquisition catechises.

    The silence both you & i know.

    The silence the King enforces on his entourage.

    For he & his Queen are Franco's appointed heirs.

    His flag, not the Republic's, flies over Spain.

    Just as her own banner cannot fly over Kashmir's own .

    Kashmir, like Spain, refuses the alien's colors.

    Kashmir refuses the silence Spain now lives.

    Only the brave, the principled, break the silence.

    Like Kashmir breaks hers after Friday prayers.

    Or every night through curfew.

  34. There’s a dear truth, Simon Naim,

    in talking Spain by way of Kashmir.

    Kashmir’s present is Spain’s vanished corpse, exhumed.

    Spain’s unmarked graves lie alongside Kasmir’s fresh tombs.

    For Franco is alive & well in Kashmir today.

    & the silence you spoke of, dear Simon !

    Every generation is taught this silence.

    That fear is Franco’s inheritance.

    That silence, the army teaches.

    In Spain …. in Kashmir.

    The silence enforced by Zaragoza.

    The silence enforced on Garzon.

    The silence the Inquisition catechises.

    The silence both you & i know.

    The silence the King enforces on his entourage.

    For he & his Queen are Franco’s appointed heirs.

    His flag, not the Republic’s, flies over Spain.

    Just as her own banner cannot fly over Kashmir’s own .

    Kashmir, like Spain, refuses the alien’s colors.

    Kashmir refuses the silence Spain now lives.

    Only the brave, the principled, break the silence.

    Like Kashmir breaks hers after Friday prayers.

    Or every night through curfew.

  35. Yes A. Savage,
    You should feel proud of being a foreigner and showing us how well you know Spain History.
    The Franco's heritage is nothing more than ignorance and vulgarity in power in order to hinder the society evolution and contempt for everything that shines by itself. The Franco heritage and our King that achieved power illegitimately. Franco legacy that is contempt for freedom, progress and democracy.
    The Franco's legacy that is the most disgusting manifestation of fascism willing to destroy anything that threatens that large group of corrupt.
    the servants of fascism that have made of his career an statement of power abuse, breaking the law when it comes to destroy a life.
    Violating repeatedly, the legitimate rights of privacy and dignity. This perverts and vicious group that use King's satraps and his minions to tarnish the lives of innocent people, throwing dirtiness with his dark violence, and that use the slander to tarnish the reputation of those who despise. This group of pigs so full of shit and who believe that their crimes will go unpunished, how wrong they are. They have no idea that justice beyond its borders, works properly. And humble citizens who suffer their negligence are not blind.

  36. Yes A. Savage,
    You should feel proud of being a foreigner and showing us how well you know Spain History.
    The Franco’s heritage is nothing more than ignorance and vulgarity in power in order to hinder the society evolution and contempt for everything that shines by itself. The Franco heritage and our King that achieved power illegitimately. Franco legacy that is contempt for freedom, progress and democracy.
    The Franco’s legacy that is the most disgusting manifestation of fascism willing to destroy anything that threatens that large group of corrupt.
    the servants of fascism that have made of his career an statement of power abuse, breaking the law when it comes to destroy a life.
    Violating repeatedly, the legitimate rights of privacy and dignity. This perverts and vicious group that use King’s satraps and his minions to tarnish the lives of innocent people, throwing dirtiness with his dark violence, and that use the slander to tarnish the reputation of those who despise. This group of pigs so full of shit and who believe that their crimes will go unpunished, how wrong they are. They have no idea that justice beyond its borders, works properly. And humble citizens who suffer their negligence are not blind.

  37. Dear Simon Naim,

    Yes, "Franco's legacy" … of which you justly speak.

    That's Francoismo without Franco, isn't it ?

    Francoismo within the postFranco "democracies".

    When your people even today can only express their suppressed nationalism during soccer games, when they can finally come out with their own banners into the open.

    & the Basques & Catalans can't speak their own tongues …..

    & the gap between the ricos & the people keep widening.

    Today it's this final factor … the economic imbalance … that may prove the spark to the powder keg of Spain's history.

    The force that will explode Francoismo's lid over Spain …

    Throwing open the suppressed & unresolved contradictions of Francoismo & the past…

    ….. of Catalonia & the Basque nation, Spain's Kashmirs.

    i feel recalled to Spain by you, your voice, reconnected to you by way of Kashmir.

    If a man loses something …. if he goes back looking for it, he will find it.

    That's what you …. & i …. & the humble & neglected to whom you give voice .. are doing today.

    From Spain, the Basque country, Catalonia ….. to Kashmir.

  38. Dear Simon Naim,

    Yes, “Franco’s legacy” … of which you justly speak.

    That’s Francoismo without Franco, isn’t it ?

    Francoismo within the postFranco “democracies”.

    When your people even today can only express their suppressed nationalism during soccer games, when they can finally come out with their own banners into the open.

    & the Basques & Catalans can’t speak their own tongues …..

    & the gap between the ricos & the people keep widening.

    Today it’s this final factor … the economic imbalance … that may prove the spark to the powder keg of Spain’s history.

    The force that will explode Francoismo’s lid over Spain …

    Throwing open the suppressed & unresolved contradictions of Francoismo & the past…

    ….. of Catalonia & the Basque nation, Spain’s Kashmirs.

    i feel recalled to Spain by you, your voice, reconnected to you by way of Kashmir.

    If a man loses something …. if he goes back looking for it, he will find it.

    That’s what you …. & i …. & the humble & neglected to whom you give voice .. are doing today.

    From Spain, the Basque country, Catalonia ….. to Kashmir.

  39. Dear Simon Naim,

    i'll be away for some days. Will return April 7.

    Stay strong in the battle.

    Struggling people need to widen their support bases.

    But at the same time, they need to be careful the base doesn't overshoot by far their own actual strength.

    i have you always in my thoughts.

  40. Dear Simon Naim,

    i’ll be away for some days. Will return April 7.

    Stay strong in the battle.

    Struggling people need to widen their support bases.

    But at the same time, they need to be careful the base doesn’t overshoot by far their own actual strength.

    i have you always in my thoughts.

  41. Thanks for your support A. Savage.
    As you say, one should always Stay strong in the battle. And as Stéphane Hesse says: "A life gained has to be a committed life"

  42. Thanks for your support A. Savage.
    As you say, one should always Stay strong in the battle. And as Stéphane Hesse says: “A life gained has to be a committed life”